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February 11, 2019, 04:44:34 PM
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Some merit sources receive very few sMerits to send, some receive less than 30. Theymos made it clear that he would like to have fonts for specific locations like local boards. And some Merit sources only actively participate in these sections so they get few merits.

Most of these users who send a lot of sMerits participate much more in sections that already have many sources of merits. And that already has a good flow of Merits. Meta, WO, Investigations are sections where good Topics are always rewarded with enough Merits.

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February 11, 2019, 04:54:21 PM
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I’ve just checked if I could spot a Merit Source on a given Local board with a low amount of sMerits (by checking on the Merit Dashboard the biggest Meriters on that local board over the last few months vs received sMerit, and then looking at their sMerit distribution on a monthly basis).

The source I found distributed over the last few months (not only on his local board): 13 sMerits (Jan 2019), 49 sMerits (December 2018), 10 sMerits (November 2018), 59 sMerits (October 2018), and so on.

The Merit Source in question therefore may not have that much of an allowance (60 per 30 days at best), merits primarily his local board (97,01% of awarded sMerit), and may not find enough meritable posts on his local board to empty his allowance every month. I've spotted other merit sources in the lower 2 digits, and recall 25 being a starting point for a specific one.

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February 11, 2019, 05:01:06 PM
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My question was regarding rest 74 merit sources. Are their smerit allocation below 50? or are they not using allocated smerit?
Only theymos (or the individual sources themselves) could answer this. Even knowing the total number of merit sources (122) and source sMerit (20835 per 30 days), there are too many confounding factors (not knowing exactly who all the sources are, not knowing how many merits being sent are source sMerits or personal sMerits, etc). It would be impossible to work out what each source's individual allocation is and whether or not they are spending it.

As I've said though, theymos recently readjusted the allocations, so you can be fairly certain that if a source isn't spending their source sMerits, then they will be cut and the excess transferred to a source who is regularly running out.

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February 11, 2019, 05:12:21 PM
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I don't think I get very many, as I only seem to award in ones and twos. I'd do a Pidgin post special for the Africans if I knew which board to start it on. Maybe beginners would work if we had an English translation.

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February 11, 2019, 06:47:34 PM
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If the inactive merit sources aren't fit for their job theymos should appoint serious minded ones i see numerous application on meta, people are out there who're ready to handle the job and do it perfectly

Maybe I should start another Fit to Talk English translation initiative. Maybe I'll do it for pidgin English, that should get a few members coo'ing.

Lets see how it goes. There are quite some untapped potential in Nigeria and africa in general. Anything that favour my country count me in you got my support Cash, you can make use of the Other language/location board using beginner and help board will just attract the post reporters and topic might endup been moved by moderator.

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February 11, 2019, 06:49:15 PM
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I've added an African board that allows Pidgin.

How can it be used?

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February 11, 2019, 07:37:00 PM
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How can it be used?

Saw the board under "Regional political discussions section" titled "Bitcoin and crypto in Africa" i feel it's a little bit restricting since the description says "The use of Bitcoin in Africa is increasing, use this board to discuss developments." maybe if you open the board to all Africa related discussion like political discussion, entertainment, blockchain and the rest the board will get some activeness. Right now it feels like the board should only be used to discuss "The Use of Bitcoin in Africa". Which will kind of reduce the level of discussion on the board.

It should be like a board where interested users can discussion everything related to africa not just the use of bitcoin in africa

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February 11, 2019, 08:25:07 PM
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I used to check that list every week or so, just for the hell of it and for whatever reason I stopped--but it doesn't surprise me I'm not in the top 10.  That's actually a good thing, as I give out a lot of merits; it means there are some die-hard merit sources out there spreading the love. 

Just speaking for myself here, I usually don't have sMerits left over when it's replenishment time.  Usually not even personal ones are left over.

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February 11, 2019, 10:11:57 PM
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Just speaking for myself here, I usually don't have sMerits left over when it's replenishment time.  Usually not even personal ones are left over.
I'm pretty much there too. My source sMerits are gone within 24 hours of them being replenished. My personal sMerit stash is usually sitting around 5 to 10 depending on how active I've been/how many merits I've earned myself over the last week or so. I struggle to spend myself down to 0 - when I hit 2 or 3 I tend to not merit anything at all until I am replenished/earn more, just in case someone posts something absolutely amazing and I find myself out of sMerits.

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February 11, 2019, 10:21:08 PM
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But as far as I know there 2 user is non merit source, S_Therapist & Coolcryptovator. Both users isn't merit source. I think there is more none merit source users but above 2 is sure none merit source.

There's at least three, I'm not a merit source either.

All you guys who are saying that most of the merits are coming from regular members, and not from the merit sources, should remember that without the merit sources awarding merits, the regular members wouldn't have any sMerits to award.

True, many of the merits I received come from merit sources.

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February 12, 2019, 05:19:25 AM
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I'm pretty much there too. My source sMerits are gone within 24 hours of them being replenished. My personal sMerit stash is usually sitting around 5 to 10 depending on how active I've been/how many merits I've earned myself over the last week or so. I struggle to spend myself down to 0 - when I hit 2 or 3 I tend to not merit anything at all until I am replenished/earn more, just in case someone posts something absolutely amazing and I find myself out of sMerits.

As a member of bitcointalk i always tried my best to give smerits to someone who actually working for the forum. Yeah its really a matter of sorrow that when you find an amazing post and don't find any smerits left Cry

I beleive after the begining of merit system users are much connected and active with forum than ever. Its because earning merits is the only way to build your rank up here. Basically we can only send merits to someone when we will get it from anyone else. Its a complete circle system.

That's why who's are in the merit source list are really  important for continuing this smerits circle system. If we can't get merits from them than we will not be able to send it to others. So their activity matters a lot here IMO.

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February 12, 2019, 05:36:28 AM
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IIRC, user d5000 used to get 10 source merits only. He told it in somewhere in Merit and New requirements thread, I was engaged with that post.
I am on the list just because I spent all of my sMerits couple of weeks ago in one day through the help of LoyceV's self moderated threads for quality posts. Usually I were used to spend 1/2 sMerits per post.
It's not a matter, some people don't have enough time to spend here. They are busy with real life works. Although, I think they should not be choosen as merit source, you have to also consider the fact that not everyone can be merit source because they may manipulate or engage with buy/sell merits.
In my opinion, since LoyceV has a good thread where members report some good posts, merit source who are busy with real life, can check that thread and spend merits on those post OR send all the sMerit to some active merit sources or active members like coolcryptovator (although I never got a merit from him just because of his false feeling, lol).
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February 12, 2019, 06:16:56 AM
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IIRC, user d5000 used to get 10 source merits only.

That's lower than i expected

In my opinion, since LoyceV has a good thread where members report some good posts, merit source who are busy with real life, can check that thread and spend merits on those post OR send all the sMerit to some active merit sources or active members like coolcryptovator (although I never got a merit from him just because of his false feeling, lol).

The thread is barely alive. Averagely there's less than a post reported everyday and only few users who submit report.

People constantly said getting merit is hard or there are many post with good quality don't receive merit, but almost all of them bother report it.

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February 12, 2019, 06:19:50 AM
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1/2 the sources are gone

they dont want shit to do with the mafia here and are scared to speak up and have their reps ruined so they left
more and more old timers leaving : /

oh well, the gambling sig mafia dont care, they get paid either way, this place is theirs now
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The thread is barely alive. Averagely there's less than a post reported everyday and only few users who submit report.
My bad, I didn't check it for a long time. In that case, sending all of their sMerit/source merit to an trusted active user would be good.
Theymos should make some criteria for the eligibility of being merit source. User have to be active one/two or three days in each period. Otheriwise, he will not get smerit for next period. It should be since theymos wants merit sources to spend their source merits.
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I think this would be counterproductive.

If the problem you are trying to address here is that there are not enough merits being given out by the merit sources (a proposition with which I disagree), then punishing them for taking a few days off and removing their source sMerits makes the problem worse rather than better. Sources are not rewarded for being sources or for handing out merits - removing their sMerit supply does not punish them, it only punishes the users who would be missing out on receiving said merits.

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1/2 the sources are gone

they dont want shit to do with the mafia here and are scared to speak up and have their reps ruined so they left
more and more old timers leaving : /

oh well, the gambling sig mafia dont care, they get paid either way, this place is theirs now

Do you hear voices in your head, do you have extreme paranoia? There is no mafia, the sooner you learn that the better. The people you see moaning about similar things are shit posters/spammers/scammers/untrustworthy & they deserve to be outed.

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I award merits where I want to, and I don't award them just to empty my merit bag. ( although I keep it fairly low, and I have to use my personal sMerits to award the bonuses).  If it was decided that I didn't award merits fast enough, or I was punished because I had to stay away for some reason, then all it would achieve would be to deprive the posters that I would have awarded .

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February 12, 2019, 04:17:23 PM
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In case of my local board, it is said that there are three Merit sources, but only one of them is sending Merit. He sent 42 sMerits (Jan 2019), 10 sMerits (December 2018), 10 sMerits (November 2018), 67 sMerits (October 2018), and the other two are zero. I do not know exactly who Merit sauces are, but perhaps I think they have not sent Merit in the last few months.

I think work of Merit source on our local board is very hard, because the number of posts on our board is quite small. For example, there are only 29 posts so far in February.

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February 12, 2019, 04:38:18 PM
Last edit: February 13, 2019, 02:15:48 PM by cryptohunter
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1/2 the sources are gone

they dont want shit to do with the mafia here and are scared to speak up and have their reps ruined so they left
more and more old timers leaving : /

oh well, the gambling sig mafia dont care, they get paid either way, this place is theirs now

Do you hear voices in your head, do you have extreme paranoia? There is no mafia, the sooner you learn that the better. The people you see moaning about similar things are shit posters/spammers/scammers/untrustworthy & they deserve to be outed.

Keep your head down, follow the rules, post constructively, be nice to people & you’ll never have to worry about any supposed forum mafia.

Ignore this person who is observably  merit begging shitposting untrustworthy  scoundrel.

Jetcash - "im going to start a 1000 earned merits (for cyclers only "
Lfc_bitcoin - " I want 1000 earned merits please"
Jetcash  " here is 5 for you right there for your shit begging and sig spamming post"
Lfc_bitcoin " no problem I like cycling merits its fun"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4661300.msg49692389#msg49692389

Tells you to be nice to people whilst accusing you of having voices in your head and accuses you of being either a shitposter, scammer or  untrustworthy. Perhaps all 3.

Tells you keep your head down - then you don't need to worry

So... stop raising valid and observable issues else you will have to worry about the "supposed" mafia?

How about you shut up and remove your  betting sig -- that he correctly observed that most of the "mafia" are spamming everywhere whilst cycling merits. Red trusting anyone who dares present facts regarding their wrong doing/ their attempted bullying tactics.  

Also try to make some kind of post that is worth reading for you merits. I can not locate one original thought inspiring contribution from you or one major achievement that changed anything on this board for anyone else at all. In fact you are a complete waste of space as far as i can see.






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