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February 20, 2019, 05:42:38 AM
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I reckon Dana might have a new storyboard from Cain's unlucky conclusion. Francis Ngannou versus Daniel Cormier, the revenge for Cain.

Cain and Daniel are close friends and training partners in the American Kickboxing Academy. Francis wants his next fight to be for the championship. Daniel wants to avenge his friend. Dana is already counting how much pay per views he can sell hehehehehe.

I also have this thought that what if Cain wins against Ngannou last Sunday? Will DC fight his friend for the heavyweight belt?

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February 20, 2019, 07:29:48 AM
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I reckon Dana might have a new storyboard from Cain's unlucky conclusion. Francis Ngannou versus Daniel Cormier, the revenge for Cain.

Cain and Daniel are close friends and training partners in the American Kickboxing Academy. Francis wants his next fight to be for the championship. Daniel wants to avenge his friend. Dana is already counting how much pay per views he can sell hehehehehe.

I also have this thought that what if Cain wins against Ngannou last Sunday? Will DC fight his friend for the heavyweight belt?

DC isnt going to be fighting Francis- per Dana White.   DC is still injured

Dana White says the UFC has a title fight lined up for Daniel Cormier, not Francis Ngannou
https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/2/18/18229119/morning-report-dana-white-the-ufc-has-a-title-fight-lined-up-for-daniel-cormier-not-francis-ngannou

On Sunday night, Francis Ngannou made quick work of Cain Velasquez, knocking out the former two-time UFC heavyweight champion in just 26 seconds at UFC Phoenix. After the biggest win of his career, Ngannou began lobbying for a title shot, saying that heavyweight champion Daniel Cormier “should come to avenge his teammate.” Unfortunately for Ngannou, it doesn’t look like that will be in the cards for him.

Speaking with ESPN after the fight, UFC President Dana White revealed that the UFC already has an opponent lined up Cormier.

“Well yeah, Francis is there,” White said. “Cormier’s hurt right now and we have another fight lined up for Cormier first so, we’ll see how this whole thing plays out.”

When Cormier won the title at UFC 226, a superfight with Brock Lesnar was immediately teased. However, despite Lesnar rejoining USADA in July, there has been little discussion about his impending return, leaving even Cormier to wonder if the fight with happen. Meanwhile, Cormier has been dealing with injuries since his heavyweight title defense against Derrick Lewis at UFC 230, leaving who is is fighting next completely up in the air and Dana White did not care to illuminate either.

“[Cormier] is not healthy yet so I would never announce a fight without it being done,” White said when questioned about the opponent for Cormier. “It makes no sense. I don’t even know when Cormier’s gonna be ready.”

Cormier is currently sidelined with a back injury and just last week announced that he would be pushing back his planned retirement date while he recovers.

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February 20, 2019, 07:33:37 AM
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I'd like to see Cormier kick Lesnar's ass.
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February 20, 2019, 11:22:55 AM
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I agree with you, it was the uppercut that knocked him out.

Well technically, it only knocked him down (and that's if the uppercut really touched him) and the knee issue prevented him from defending himself which is why the ref stopped the fight.
Had the knee not given out, the fight might have gone on. We'll never know.

Well, I'd say most people would agree that if not the knee incident, Velasquez would most probably win the fight. Look at him at the press conference right after the fight. He's not worn down at all, and that's after several hard punches he received being on the ground. I think, it would be great if they arranged another Ngannou vs Velasquez fight in a month or two.

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February 20, 2019, 11:36:15 AM
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I reckon Dana might have a new storyboard from Cain's unlucky conclusion. Francis Ngannou versus Daniel Cormier, the revenge for Cain.

Cain and Daniel are close friends and training partners in the American Kickboxing Academy. Francis wants his next fight to be for the championship. Daniel wants to avenge his friend. Dana is already counting how much pay per views he can sell hehehehehe.

I also have this thought that what if Cain wins against Ngannou last Sunday? Will DC fight his friend for the heavyweight belt?

Daniel Cormier will not fight Cain. Perhaps the story line will be DC will retire and Cain takes over the heavyweight division. Unfortunately we have seen what happened, so it will be DC vs Francis next. But first DC needs to rehab his injuries. Another option will be DC vs Brock as @kenzawak, has pointed out. But depends on how DC recovered, so we're not sure of the timeline yet.


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February 20, 2019, 01:48:15 PM
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I'd like to see Cormier kick Lesnar's ass.

And I'd like to see an Ngannou vs Miocic rematch as the co main event.  Grin

That could def get more people interested than seeing Lesnar getting his ass kicked again imho.  Lesnar just doesn't offer anything new anymore. 

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February 20, 2019, 01:49:59 PM
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 Lesnar just doesn't offer anything new anymore.  

It's still fun to see him get his ass kicked.  Grin
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^  Rofl.  He doesn't like his face getting hit too.  Notice how he closes his eyes and shakes his head like a baby and his arms flailing when he gets his face hit.  

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February 20, 2019, 03:25:08 PM
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^  Rofl.  He doesn't like his face getting hit too.  Notice how he closes his eyes and shakes his head like a baby and his arms flailing when he gets his face hit.  

Lol, I haven't notice that.

But yeah, would love to see him get bloodied,  Grin. Someone needs to smoke that ass again just for the sake of getting entertained.
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February 21, 2019, 06:40:00 AM
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Hey, Where's Royce Gracie and St. Pierre?

At the top of the top obviously !  Wink

About GSP, he's gonna announce his retirement later today.
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February 23, 2019, 12:39:54 PM
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Javier Mendez, Cain's coach as a interesting theory,  Grin

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“If you guys watch the video, the very first punch Ngannou threw at Cain, (Cain) came into shoot, he got hit in the back of the head, an illegal shot that dazed him a little bit when he went in for the takedown, and that’s what kind of jacked up his knee to start,” Mendez told Submission Radio. “So, I didn’t see that, I did not see that. And today I looked at it and said, ‘oh my god.’ And guess who told me about it? Cain. Cain was the one who told me.”

https://www.mmamania.com/2019/2/21/18234595/ufc-cain-velasquez-team-now-blaming-illegal-punch-ko-loss-francis-ngannou-phoenix

So basically, he blame the 'illegal' punch that could have trigger Cain's knees to buckled and eventually gave out.

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February 23, 2019, 01:08:17 PM
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Javier Mendez, Cain's coach as a interesting theory,  Grin

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“If you guys watch the video, the very first punch Ngannou threw at Cain, (Cain) came into shoot, he got hit in the back of the head, an illegal shot that dazed him a little bit when he went in for the takedown, and that’s what kind of jacked up his knee to start,” Mendez told Submission Radio. “So, I didn’t see that, I did not see that. And today I looked at it and said, ‘oh my god.’ And guess who told me about it? Cain. Cain was the one who told me.”

https://www.mmamania.com/2019/2/21/18234595/ufc-cain-velasquez-team-now-blaming-illegal-punch-ko-loss-francis-ngannou-phoenix

So basically, he blame the 'illegal' punch that could have trigger Cain's knees to buckled and eventually gave out.
This is just another excuse from Cain's camp. Of course we wanted more action from him and rooting for Cain to win, but this kind of freak accident really do happen and it's very unfortunate that we didn't more action. Just man up and not to look for excuses that his fighter lost it already.

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February 23, 2019, 01:55:09 PM
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Velasquez already had a bum knee before the fight.  Watch this vid.  Look more closely around 42 secs:  https://twitter.com/Maclifeofficial/status/1096290910130790401

He limped a bit and quit the work out.

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February 24, 2019, 11:06:29 AM
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Velasquez already had a bum knee before the fight.  Watch this vid.  Look more closely around 42 secs:  https://twitter.com/Maclifeofficial/status/1096290910130790401

He limped a bit and quit the work out.

Yes, it looks pretty much like that during the fight and many people in the comments say the same thing.  He should have asked for shifting the fight on another date imo. How could he risk his career like that? On the other hand, maybe he couldn't shift the fight and get the $450,000 salary at the same time. If he needed the money at the moment, I wouldn't blame him at all.

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February 24, 2019, 11:14:06 AM
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Velasquez already had a bum knee before the fight.  Watch this vid.  Look more closely around 42 secs:  https://twitter.com/Maclifeofficial/status/1096290910130790401

He limped a bit and quit the work out.

Interesting video thanks.
So if he already had a problem with the knee before the fight, Cain can only blame himself.
He should have postponed it.
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February 24, 2019, 01:20:17 PM
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Velasquez already had a bum knee before the fight.  Watch this vid.  Look more closely around 42 secs:  https://twitter.com/Maclifeofficial/status/1096290910130790401

He limped a bit and quit the work out.

Interesting video thanks.
So if he already had a problem with the knee before the fight, Cain can only blame himself.
He should have postponed it.

Yes, hasn't seen this video as well, it looks like he is already hurt going into the fight with Francis and that shot he took could have really aggravated it, that's why he just took a knee.

I don't know about the postponement though, the stakes are already high at that time and there is no coming back. He take the risk then no one has to blame but himself.
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February 25, 2019, 04:06:27 PM
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I'd like to see Cormier kick Lesnar's ass.
That would be a great match up, two heavyweight amateur wrestlers who did not face each other in their competing time and now they have the opportunity to match their skills in MMA and i consider Cormier to be a better wrestler than Lesnar and he incorporated wrestling well in his MMA fights and can dominate any fighter on the ground.

Javier Mendez, Cain's coach as a interesting theory,  Grin
So basically, he blame the 'illegal' punch that could have trigger Cain's knees to buckled and eventually gave out.
So now they accept that Cains knee buckled because of the punch  Cheesy, earlier i heard them saying that his knee buckled and so is the reason he went down, but in the video it looked like Ngannou had a short side upper cut that buckled Cains feet . What ever the situation is, Cain is not healthy to fight right now.

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February 27, 2019, 03:53:20 AM
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@eaLiTy. Whatever they make it appear to be, the Cain that went in the octagon versus Francis Ngannou was not the Cain that would have won with or without the knee injury. Ring rust is real no matter what anyone believes.

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I'd like to see Cormier kick Lesnar's ass.
Lesnar was a crowd drawer before, that was when he has this 4 winning streak eliminating big names like Randy Couture, Frank Mir and Shane Carwin. He also defeated Overeem in Round 1 in UFC 141. But things may have changed after his win last UFC 200 with Mark Hunt since his last fight inside the octagon is 2 years ago. If ever he step inside the octagon again, I wan't to see him loose to Cormier. I wan't to see him get disappointed just like when he lost to Frank Mir on UFC 81.
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March 05, 2019, 03:52:17 PM
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@eaLiTy. Whatever they make it appear to be, the Cain that went in the octagon versus Francis Ngannou was not the Cain that would have won with or without the knee injury. Ring rust is real no matter what anyone believes.

The Cain who lost versus Francis Ngannou was the same Cain who lost vs Werdum, i don't think Cain is or was a good fighter, is pure muscle with a nice ability to receive hits, but not a fighting machine anymore. If we want to learn about good fighters on that category then take a look to mirko crocop

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