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February 15, 2019, 03:27:18 PM
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The lines are moving towards Ngannou now as we move closer to the event.  I remember it opened around 2.75 or so...  It's at around 2.35 the last time I looked a couple of hours ago and could still go down close to 2.15 - 2.20 imo.  It could mean the sharks are with Ngannou.

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February 15, 2019, 06:00:18 PM
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Bellator has some interesting match ups thats not a surprise.
My only Bellator play will be on Austin Vanderford 1.19.
Not because I think hes anything special, and not because I see any huge value.
But only because he is Mr. Page VanZant and Im incredibly jealous of this man!

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February 15, 2019, 07:49:50 PM
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I remember the Velasquez fight VS Fabricio Werdum, on that fight Werdum was the underdog and makes me win some nice cash  Cheesy If i'm not wrong odds were like x4.5 if werdum wins at that time.

So, this time i will bet against Cain again, as we know, old dogs don't learn new tricks.

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February 15, 2019, 07:58:42 PM
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Really looking forward to this match. Velasquez has (or had) crazy stamina for a heavyweight so he might be able to wear down Ngannou. Ngannou hits like a f*cking freight train so all he needs is 1 opening.

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February 16, 2019, 02:46:35 AM
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@TheNewAnon135246. No hehehe. He only hits like a Ford Escort according to Dana.

In any case, we do not know what kind of Cain is going in the octagon tomorrow. It might also be the no cardio version that fought Fabricio Werdum.

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February 16, 2019, 03:21:58 AM
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It looks like every UFC fight fans is really hype around the come back of Cain. I can feel that fighting fans wants to see the old Cain back in the Octagon, but we can't discounted the fact that Ngannou has one punch knock-out, can Cain's chin hold up if Francis hits him?

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February 16, 2019, 08:14:52 AM
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It looks like every UFC fight fans is really hype around the come back of Cain. I can feel that fighting fans wants to see the old Cain back in the Octagon, but we can't discounted the fact that Ngannou has one punch knock-out, can Cain's chin hold up if Francis hits him?
We all know that Francis Ngannou is a knockout artist. 5 of his fights ended on a first round stopage, the other 2 are second round. Cain needs to work on his cardio to last up to the last round since Ngannou's last 2 losses are due to decision and he doesn't throw too many punches. He is waiting for the right time for the kill. That's why on his 2 losses if we look at the number of punches thrown, his percentage is very low.
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I dont see a betting line for this female match maybe because it is supposed to be so 1 sided.
But the debuting 20 year old model should win with no problem.

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February 16, 2019, 10:01:47 AM
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@TheNewAnon135246. No hehehe. He only hits like a Ford Escort according to Dana.

In any case, we do not know what kind of Cain is going in the octagon tomorrow. It might also be the no cardio version that fought Fabricio Werdum.

Not sure if anyone has beat him yet but Francis Ngannou has/had the world record for the hardest punch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC_t7h1JTls

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February 16, 2019, 10:18:17 AM
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Francis Ngannou has faced Curtis Blaydes, one of the better wrestlers in the division, twice. Its been said by Dana White and Francis Ngannou's former coach that Ngannou didn't train seriously for his fight with Stipe Miocic, which is the reason he looked terrible. Ngannou's wrestling and takedown defense could be underrated if this is true.
I really do not believe this because everyone knows Stipe Miocic has a background in amateur wrestling and boxing before transition to MMA and if someone is fighting for the belt, does anyone neglect ground game entirely in MMA and if Ngannou did that he is not championship caliber, the Cain Velasquez i know is a better wrestler than Miocic so he better prepare this time or else feel the grind. Cheesy

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February 16, 2019, 11:53:05 AM
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I'm surprised you guys aren't talking about Kron Gracie's debut in the UFC.
He is the son of Rickson and a former Jiu Jitsu world champion. Hi MMA record is 4-0.
Still young also at 30 years old.
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February 16, 2019, 02:11:08 PM
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What does everybody think of this fight lasting for just under 1.5 rounds?  The line opened at 1.85 and it's currently at 1.72.  The over is at 2.18.  I'm tempted to go for the over cos I think Cain will be mostly clincing and wrestling.

Cormier giving a preview on the main event.  Smiley

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can Cain's chin hold up if Francis hits him?
No man can 'survive' Ngannou's deadly punches, one hit and it's done.

What does everybody think of this fight lasting for just under 1.5 rounds?  The line opened at 1.85 and it's currently at 1.72.  The over is at 2.18.  I'm tempted to go for the over cos I think Cain will be mostly clincing and wrestling.
I would go for the over. I've said it before, I think Cain will stay from Ngannou in the first few rounds then finish him in the later rounds when Ngannou is tired.

Ngannou KO in round 1 @5.00 / Ngannou to win @2.40. I'm tempted, but I'll stick to my guns, don't let me down Cain.

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February 17, 2019, 10:48:01 AM
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It's less than 4 hours left till the fight, and it looks like most bettors are regarding Velasquez as a favorite and Ngannou as underdog. Not saying that majority is always right, but this time I think it is. To win the fight, having superhuman endurance is better than having the strongest punch in the world. Or it's not? We'll find out in less than 4 hours. And although the top comment for this video

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reads "Cain doesn’t look the same as he use to.", I root for Velasquez, and I wish him all the best.

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February 17, 2019, 10:59:17 AM
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Lol, you guys give me some smiles regarding the outcome of the game.  Grin. I thought that the Velasquez vs Ngannou has ended already but it seems I lost my body clock again. Still 3 hours to go and I seen reports that MVP vs Daley is a boring fight because its tactical chess match. Anyways, hope that Cain survived against the power punching Francis.

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February 17, 2019, 12:53:23 PM
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can Cain's chin hold up if Francis hits him?
No man can 'survive' Ngannou's deadly punches, one hit and it's done.

What does everybody think of this fight lasting for just under 1.5 rounds?  The line opened at 1.85 and it's currently at 1.72.  The over is at 2.18.  I'm tempted to go for the over cos I think Cain will be mostly clincing and wrestling.
I would go for the over. I've said it before, I think Cain will stay from Ngannou in the first few rounds then finish him in the later rounds when Ngannou is tired.

Ngannou KO in round 1 @5.00 / Ngannou to win @2.40. I'm tempted, but I'll stick to my guns, don't let me down Cain.

I should've pulled the trigger on the over at 2.18.  It's at 1.90 just around 18 hours later...  What's the line for 'Velasquez KO in round one' in your bookie?

Anyway, here are the weigh ins.  And Ngannou and Velasquez are looking good!  Wink

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February 17, 2019, 03:30:33 PM
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I should've pulled the trigger on the over at 2.18.  It's at 1.90 just around 18 hours later...  What's the line for 'Velasquez KO in round one' in your bookie?
Right now, Velazques KO in round 1 @4.50, and round 2 @5.50, not bad. I also have over 2.5 rounds @3.50, which I'm probably gonna take.

Anyway, here are the weigh ins.  And Ngannou and Velasquez are looking good!  Wink
UFC Phoenix:  Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NfhRC-ECwc
those youtube comments lol Seems like the majority of people are expecting a KO from Ngannou in round 1.

A lot of hype around Ngannou vs Velasquez, but we also a few good fights (for instance, Vick vs Felder, and Sterling vs Rivera), anyone planning on going with a parlay?

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February 18, 2019, 02:21:25 AM
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@TheNewAnon135246. No hehehe. He only hits like a Ford Escort according to Dana.

In any case, we do not know what kind of Cain is going in the octagon tomorrow. It might also be the no cardio version that fought Fabricio Werdum.

Not sure if anyone has beat him yet but Francis Ngannou has/had the world record for the hardest punch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC_t7h1JTls

I know, I was only joking hehehe. It was Dana who said that Francis Ngannou hits like a Ford Escort which Cain mocked and said that he was not impressed on the comparison.

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February 18, 2019, 04:49:34 AM
Last edit: February 18, 2019, 05:02:36 AM by vennali
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Ngannou beats Velasquez in 25 secs. Velasquez leg slipped and his knee gave out. Thats just hard luck for him for that to happen so early into the match. Was pretty much a flawless victory for Ngannou. He might be ready to fight again next week..by the looks of things lol. Hope the future hall of fame star Velasques looked just fine during the end at the interview. Hopefully we get to see him fight again soon.

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