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March 18, 2019, 04:07:52 AM
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This is not POW coin but a lot more complex system each A share is max per one node, to understand you need to read whole white paper
In short we have 3-4 shards of 600 places max while the dev in there have over 70% of their guard nodes and we have rest if we manage to get full 600 POW submition in <1min time, over that imagine their diff retarget shifting 400% up just because we had 100+ A at 34Gh and next diff is 137Gh then on next POW we have 4x less shares and we always lose 600 accapted shares.... don`t ask me why they don`t have smarted diff retarget I am not zilliqa dev

On top of that all shares have <1min to be accepted by each node, so its a race and even there pool from verified accepted shares have 50% nodes that not get in shard so recejt for me is even more.... but its the way network work as this is not POW coin in any way

1. diff is low, many miners submit 600 shares in 10-15sec all shares after that are rejected as shard (600 nodes) is full
2. diff spike 4x we have no hash to make 600+ shares, we make 350-550A all that shares are rejected by network as we did not make 600 nodes (full network not just pool)
3. best case solution diff is same over a day then we can expect ~80% accepted and only rejects when we pass 40-50sec window if shard is full
4. 100% accepted is impossible that would mean 1min POW window took all miners to submit just 600 share no more nor less and all get in network fine

"06:44:21 zilminer Send dummy work to init DAG"

Also older zilminer use fake dag generation and generate a lot rejected shares so it be ready for next POW with almost zero diff (almost no GPU work done), thats why I say you need to watch only for accepted for you hash not rejected as they are part of this sistem

PS: they still work on network I hope they fix it soon
So the moral of this long story is only 600 shares get accepted total per 1 min window?

1 for each node that gets approved as a shard ? How do miners get paid then if the rewards go only to shards
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March 18, 2019, 04:20:20 AM
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Depend limit is 2400 atm but many are guard nodes which should drop over time by devs, and you need full shard or we drop to 1800 nodes... so each Accepted is one node, reward is is not per share but only if node join shard and received in next 100 block zil reward (~27zil) that also depend on node reputation, network etc
I have no reward math per node nor per A, as many valid shares that are credited to miners are not getting node in shard for xx reason, you can read in white paper
All I do is calculate all rewards I get and adjust what I can pay to miners per accepted share

So in short you will get pay for each accepted share, even if node does not get in shard that is why reward is lower then 27zil as atm that rate is not fix and know to drop under 50% or more

PS devs announced update in few hours so chain should start to move soon again

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March 19, 2019, 02:18:11 AM
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The network was updated this morning and its now stabilized again at 68Gh where there is less rejects

they slow down a chain a bit so less POW per day as we had 16 and now back to ~10-12

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March 19, 2019, 11:43:02 PM
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IS ok to get such many rejected shares?? also i was mining for long time and it stop mining and all my rigs also stop mining second coin. it cost me many hours of mining Sad
is 9zil sufficient for one accepted share?

Hashrate   759.1 Mh/s
PoWs Accepted   275
PoWs Submitted   354
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March 20, 2019, 12:13:56 AM
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IS ok to get such many rejected shares?? also i was mining for long time and it stop mining and all my rigs also stop mining second coin. it cost me many hours of mining Sad
is 9zil sufficient for one accepted share?

Hashrate   759.1 Mh/s
PoWs Accepted   275
PoWs Submitted   354

I explained how this coin works few time, just 3 post back, don`t mine it then... if you don`t like how it works if you have anything better mine that

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March 20, 2019, 07:39:12 AM
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IS ok to get such many rejected shares?? also i was mining for long time and it stop mining and all my rigs also stop mining second coin. it cost me many hours of mining Sad
is 9zil sufficient for one accepted share?

Hashrate   759.1 Mh/s
PoWs Accepted   275
PoWs Submitted   354

lol reb0rn21 explained it so often, on several pages of this thread, for example 4 answers before your asked  Roll Eyes

So many people are so lazy today, no one read or find a failure by yourself, everyone ask after the first little problem. Very sad world.
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March 20, 2019, 11:24:59 AM
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IS ok to get such many rejected shares?? also i was mining for long time and it stop mining and all my rigs also stop mining second coin. it cost me many hours of mining Sad
is 9zil sufficient for one accepted share?

Hashrate   759.1 Mh/s
PoWs Accepted   275
PoWs Submitted   354

I explained how this coin works few time, just 3 post back, don`t mine it then... if you don`t like how it works if you have anything better mine that

my mistake i havent read above comments, i havent had refreshed my page before placing comment.
i like zill, only was curious if 9zil are sufficient for share due to amount of rejects.
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March 21, 2019, 11:44:28 PM
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Hi,

for those itnerested, i have done 1 day testing,

runing together 1GH rigs dual mining eth and zil

START:
Hashrate   1 Gh/s
PoWs Accepted   294
PoWs Submitted   375

END:
Hashrate   1 Gh/s
PoWs Accepted   307
PoWs Submitted   398

so for 1 day 13 shares accepted / 23 shares submited = 13 x 9zil = 117zil/day = x0.018 = 2.1usd/day with 1Gh/s rigs
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Last edit: March 22, 2019, 03:57:01 AM by Marvell2
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Hi,

for those itnerested, i have done 1 day testing,

runing together 1GH rigs dual mining eth and zil

START:
Hashrate   1 Gh/s
PoWs Accepted   294
PoWs Submitted   375

END:
Hashrate   1 Gh/s
PoWs Accepted   307
PoWs Submitted   398

so for 1 day 13 shares accepted / 23 shares submited = 13 x 9zil = 117zil/day = x0.018 = 2.1usd/day with 1Gh/s rigs
That’s terrible you should run your own node, 1ghs is enough to power 1 node , you would get 200 to 300 zil a day.

I have 5 nodes , 1ghs pointed to each one even got in ds committee and I pulled 500 in one day from that node

* re reading your results that doesn’t make sense , I was getting 6 or 7 shares per 160mhs rig myself on this pool, still have a few rigs on it, so if you have 1ghs you should have at least 40 or 50 shares a day which is more reasonable
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March 22, 2019, 03:39:25 AM
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Some ppl are not mining on moonlet (mainnet) address but ERC20 address pls start mining to mainnet address as ERC20 address can not be used for payout!, who ever mined on exchange or ERC20 address pls reply to email from pool (from old email or from new when you register new address) stating old ERC20 address and NEW from https://moonlet.xyz pls

Concerned only to ppl that are mining to ERC20 address!

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March 22, 2019, 11:03:12 PM
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Hi,

for those itnerested, i have done 1 day testing,

runing together 1GH rigs dual mining eth and zil

START:
Hashrate   1 Gh/s
PoWs Accepted   294
PoWs Submitted   375

END:
Hashrate   1 Gh/s
PoWs Accepted   307
PoWs Submitted   398

so for 1 day 13 shares accepted / 23 shares submited = 13 x 9zil = 117zil/day = x0.018 = 2.1usd/day with 1Gh/s rigs
That’s terrible you should run your own node, 1ghs is enough to power 1 node , you would get 200 to 300 zil a day.

I have 5 nodes , 1ghs pointed to each one even got in ds committee and I pulled 500 in one day from that node

* re reading your results that doesn’t make sense , I was getting 6 or 7 shares per 160mhs rig myself on this pool, still have a few rigs on it, so if you have 1ghs you should have at least 40 or 50 shares a day which is more reasonable

another 24hrs past and here are newest data:

Hashrate   1 Gh/s
PoWs Accepted   325
PoWs Submitted   418

so today 18 accepted shares/20submited shares = 18 x 9 = 162zil/day x 0.018 = 2.91usd

i have 5rigs + pc (380/270/180/170/170/22) = so it should be more than 1Gh but who knows, all are working...maybe thexy dont count if they dont send accepted share?i can see with one 170rig i did not had  luck for 3days, desptire same bat (diff worker name).
also i have checked another pools and can see http://pool.getzil.com/#start_mining is having 10.9zil per work,so i think i will try another one and who knows.

btw as i mentioned before, i have rigs, are there option do put them to work like node?

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March 22, 2019, 11:14:17 PM
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No rigs can`t work as node, you need dedicated static IPv4/port per node........ also you can have 1 share per node per POW max

Pls open a topic about solo mine, its to complex to talk here under a pool topic

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March 23, 2019, 11:11:49 PM
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i have about 230 accepted shares but still 0 rewards. when is the payout?
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March 23, 2019, 11:19:50 PM
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No rigs can`t work as node, you need dedicated static IPv4/port per node........ also you can have 1 share per node per POW max

Pls open a topic about solo mine, its to complex to talk here under a pool topic

well 1 shares is 27zill for node, so it is really nice.but what i have checked seems like there could be cpu node (basic pc with linux?) connected with rigs via docker(not sure what that might exactly be) and it will work somehow. dont understand details yet.

start
Hashrate   1 Gh/s
PoWs Accepted   325
PoWs Submitted   418

end
Hashrate   1.1 Gh/s
PoWs Accepted   339
PoWs Submitted   437


bad luck today with even more hash. only 14 accepted shares with 1.1ghs... x9zil = 126 zil *0.018=2.26usd

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March 23, 2019, 11:22:25 PM
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i have about 230 accepted shares but still 0 rewards. when is the payout?

https://viewblock.io/zilliqa

under transaction you have Bootstrap projection end... after that transactions will be enabled and shares will be credited


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March 23, 2019, 11:32:57 PM
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a few days to go then, i am using an exchange wallet but it starts with 0x, its not an erc20 address is it?
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March 23, 2019, 11:36:55 PM
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a few days to go then, i am using an exchange wallet but it starts with 0x, its not an erc20 address is it?

there is no exchange with mainnet address!!!!!!! read the first post! and do what it say, and start mining on moonlet wallet address
ziiliqa atm is only ERC20 on all exchanges and only wallet with mainnet address is moonlet

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March 24, 2019, 04:05:53 AM
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a few days to go then, i am using an exchange wallet but it starts with 0x, its not an erc20 address is it?

there is no exchange with mainnet address!!!!!!! read the first post! and do what it say, and start mining on moonlet wallet address
ziiliqa atm is only ERC20 on all exchanges and only wallet with mainnet address is moonlet

noted, ive already sent an email regarding the moonlet address conversion
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March 24, 2019, 10:33:32 PM
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No rigs can`t work as node, you need dedicated static IPv4/port per node........ also you can have 1 share per node per POW max

Pls open a topic about solo mine, its to complex to talk here under a pool topic

well 1 shares is 27zill for node, so it is really nice.but what i have checked seems like there could be cpu node (basic pc with linux?) connected with rigs via docker(not sure what that might exactly be) and it will work somehow. dont understand details yet.

start
Hashrate   1 Gh/s
PoWs Accepted   325
PoWs Submitted   418

end
Hashrate   1.1 Gh/s
PoWs Accepted   339
PoWs Submitted   437


bad luck today with even more hash. only 14 accepted shares with 1.1ghs... x9zil = 126 zil *0.018=2.26usd



day 4:
Hashrate   989.4 Mh/s
PoWs Accepted   350
PoWs Submitted   450

11 accepted shars / 19 submited shares
99zil x 0.018 = 1.78usd/day
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March 24, 2019, 10:35:06 PM
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Hi,

for those itnerested, i have done 1 day testing,

runing together 1GH rigs dual mining eth and zil

START:
Hashrate   1 Gh/s
PoWs Accepted   294
PoWs Submitted   375

END:
Hashrate   1 Gh/s
PoWs Accepted   307
PoWs Submitted   398

so for 1 day 13 shares accepted / 23 shares submited = 13 x 9zil = 117zil/day = x0.018 = 2.1usd/day with 1Gh/s rigs
That’s terrible you should run your own node, 1ghs is enough to power 1 node , you would get 200 to 300 zil a day.

I have 5 nodes , 1ghs pointed to each one even got in ds committee and I pulled 500 in one day from that node

* re reading your results that doesn’t make sense , I was getting 6 or 7 shares per 160mhs rig myself on this pool, still have a few rigs on it, so if you have 1ghs you should have at least 40 or 50 shares a day which is more reasonable

Hi could you advise what im doing wrong if i get only aprox 15 shares per day per 1Ghs? to get 40-50 is like a dream seems so.
im having 5 rigs connected on pool http://rudnik.hopto.org:5000/#start_mining
shall i try another pool?
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