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For bitcointalk.org's 10th anniversary later this year, I was thinking that it might be cool to produce a limited run of 50-300 coins and give them out (maybe all-expenses-paid or maybe at cost) to users who meet some to-be-determined criteria. I'm not a collector, though, so I'm not knowledgeable about this stuff.

 - Does this sound like a good idea?
 - What features would make the coin especially interesting?
 - What's the best way to get a coin like this made?

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February 17, 2019, 04:14:11 PM
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This would be very cool, to think there's almost been 10 years,hah.


Re: features that's a tough one.. But we have A LOT of creative people here so perhaps have users come up with a design and then we take a vote on it? That would be nice.

You also have a lot of makers here who I'm certain would help out with getting it minted and delivered (if they have the time).

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February 17, 2019, 04:17:14 PM
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For bitcointalk.org's 10th anniversary later this year, I was thinking that it might be cool to produce a limited run of 50-300 coins and give them out (maybe all-expenses-paid or maybe at cost) to users who meet some to-be-determined criteria. I'm not a collector, though, so I'm not knowledgeable about this stuff.

 - Does this sound like a good idea?
 - What features would make the coin especially interesting?
 - What's the best way to get a coin like this made?

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February 17, 2019, 04:18:49 PM
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I would love to see a collectible token commemorating bitcointalk.org's 10 year anniversary.   There are many users in the collectibles section which design and produce coins/holograms and I am sure many of them would be excited at the prospect of designing and minting this coin.  Maybe put it out t a request for proposals and allow forum members to help choose the final design?


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February 17, 2019, 04:25:16 PM
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- Does this sound like a good idea?

Yes, I like the idea. As Minerjones stated there is already a Bitcointalk coin but I that one was unofficial. I'd love to see an official anniversary coin.

- What features would make the coin especially interesting?

Preferably a .999 silver coin. It would be cool if it came with a 1 BTC denomination (unloaded ofcourse).

- What's the best way to get a coin like this made?

How about organizing a community design contest? There are plenty of coin makers in the Collectibles section that can point you toward a good mint once the design is finalized.
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February 17, 2019, 04:25:50 PM
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Random load.
You don't know before you have peeled it.

Maybe run a competition:
Winners of collectible auctions get one point. You need a point to get a coin.

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February 17, 2019, 04:31:17 PM
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I wouldn't worry about loading it at all. If its just supposed to be a commemorative coin, just have a design made and voted on or whatever you end up wanting to do, then find someone to mint them for you. Depending on the metal you want to use, and the size, and the quantity you want to produce, I can point you in the direction of a handful of mints.

Part of what makes Bitcoin collectible's outrageous premium is the hassle that is funding each coin. If you aren't looking to make money on the venture, I'd probably recommend against going through the headache.
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February 17, 2019, 04:51:04 PM
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- Does this sound like a good idea?
 - What features would make the coin especially interesting?
 - What's the best way to get a coin like this made?
Sounds like a real awesome idea, honestly. I'm hoping that those lucky enough to receive them won't just pass them on for a quick cash in. Depending on the criteria I think this could be a good way of rewarding those that have contributed to the forum. As well as showing a little appreciation. I'm just wondering whether you need some help with determining criteria?

Features: Honestly, it would be awesome to make the coins somewhat unique to the person receiving them. So, instead of preloading it with Bitcoin I would suggest another thing such as stating why they've received it. This makes it a little more personal, and will increase the chance that these aren't just auctioned off to the highest bidder. So, for example if you were to reward someone who found a major exploit in the forum, and kept it all under wraps, and told you as soon as possible then I would consider that pretty integral to the forum, and you could print something like "Contribution to forum security". Probably a poor example  as I don't have the time right now to think of anything more creative, but you get the idea. The coin itself doesn't have to be designed uniquely, but could have a unique sticker depending on the person who is receiving it. I'm hoping these coins are going to go to those that have shown great contribution to the forum, and not just Bitcoin.

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February 17, 2019, 04:53:04 PM
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An anniversary coin should have a message and be something people WANT to hold not only long term but as a tactile item.
There are a number of very good coin designers out there. Don't fall into the trap and make something cheap and derivative.

Just look at CI's halving 2016 coin. Elegant design, simple and right on point. His 10th Anni coin was in a similar vein.
You have Cryptolators inspired designs and Natty with his beautiful Elutheria and Samsara designs. Then Smoothies Lealanas and his outstanding "King K" design are truly awesome (albeit a little more disconnected form the obvious crypto)

As for making it, there's plenty of makers out there to assist. From best mints to best materials and sizing. I'm sure you won't be short of people that can advise.

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Oh me likey likey!!!!

to users who meet some to-be-determined criteria.
So basically only Chipmixer campaigners get it?  Roll Eyes

Features:

Each coin to be specially designed as per each user's UID and have their UID engraved in it. Or even better, engrave the user's avatar and name on one side, and a default bitcointalk logo, or anything that exclusively defines bitcointalk on the other side.

How about THAT?

Also if possible, load the exact amount of satoshis/ ubtc/mbtc equivalent to the merit/post count of the person receiving it?

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February 17, 2019, 05:15:43 PM
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Great idea, but what about something truly unique. Coins are great , but what about a hollow sphere, cube or linked blocks . Iím certainly no designer, and have no idea how difficult it is to make something 3D, but it would certainly be unique.


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February 17, 2019, 05:28:36 PM
#12

For bitcointalk.org's 10th anniversary later this year, I was thinking that it might be cool to produce a limited run of 50-300 coins and give them out (maybe all-expenses-paid or maybe at cost) to users who meet some to-be-determined criteria. I'm not a collector, though, so I'm not knowledgeable about this stuff.

 - Does this sound like a good idea?
 - What features would make the coin especially interesting?
 - What's the best way to get a coin like this made?

I would commission some well-respected and known crypto collectibles manufacturer to make such a coin & all the things related to it, or maybe a group of 2-3. Also, I would not limit it under 1000 pieces. I would see a pre-loaded coin as much nicer than an unloaded or non-holo coin, even though that includes its own problems.

Of course a non-coin collectible could be nice... But costs may increase a lot, etc. Maybe some sort of an unique artwork divided in even pieces? All in all, I think a simple approach yields better outcome.

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February 17, 2019, 06:36:08 PM
Last edit: February 17, 2019, 06:48:13 PM by Heisenberg_Hunter
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This would really be an awesome idea if that comes out as planned. You seem to be consistently giving out some cool ideas but most of them doesn't get implemented as planned right from the report badges to YouTube Videos. May be you are the only one working on scripting and codes and your busy schedule is pushing these ideas to an unknown future date.

I was thinking that it might be cool to produce a limited run of 50-300 coins and give them out
Why is the number ranging from 50-300, isn't it pretty low for such a huge forum? Are there only 300 reputed members? May be you could give around 1000-2000 coins to all those willing to expose their location to you primarily since most of them remain anonymous. Also what would be the purpose of giving someone a collectible coin (which might be quite rare) if they doesn't know what it is?

Does this sound like a good idea?
Of course YES. Some coin makers like Kialara who has insane levels of thinking in designing collectibles take a little higher time than expected, anyways planning soon would be better so that the coin can be announced exactly on November 22, 2019 18:04?

What features would make the coin especially interesting?
A pre loaded one or a DIY coin should be the primary aspect of a bitcoin collectible. The private keys should be controlled by you/other treasurers of this forum. Like others said, may be we can take on the poll for best designs after the maker has released few of his ideas to the public.

What's the best way to get a coin like this made?
May be you can give away the coins to the top contributors to this forum and other small contributors can probably be awarded with a polymerbit note? That could be better actually. There are quite good coin makers in the market right from Kialara, CryptoImperator and others whom you can hire to bring the best out of their minds to commemorate the 10th year anniversary.

So basically only Chipmixer campaigners get it?  Roll Eyes
What makes them superior from other users of this forum? Posting quality? Oh man, what has posting quality to do with collectibles?

Each coin to be specially designed as per each user's UID and have their UID engraved in it. Or even better, engrave the user's avatar and name on one side, and a default bitcointalk logo, or anything that exclusively defines bitcointalk on the other side.

Also if possible, load the exact amount of satoshis/ ubtc/mbtc equivalent to the merit/post count of the person receiving it?
That's certainly a very bad idea. It would become a hectic work for the coin maker or probably the coin will never come out actually! It should be of similar patterns with numbering from 1-1000/2000 and giving them out on the basis of account age of the user. For instance if the user registered on 2010 they would be receiving the first set of coins and later on.

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I have been trading at several numismatic sites for about 10 years. Sometimes there is a high demand for popular, commemorative coins, limited editions, even modern ones. I think the criteria are high-quality silver, high quality embossing, good design (possibly BTC logo), a complex and beautiful "edge" (edge ​​of a coin). A size of 25 mm, about an inch, will suffice. Numismatists begin to use payments at BTC, it is already gaining prominence among them. If they understand the significance of the forum, this will be a good factor. But with the circulation of 300 pcs., To the coin collectors, these coins may not reach)). In the future it may be a good investment. It is necessary to store without loss of quality, without minor damage and sunlight, in order to preserve the "stamp shine".

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50-300 coins and give them out (maybe all-expenses-paid or maybe at cost) to users who meet some to-be-determined criteria

Preferably a .999 silver coin. It would be cool if it came with a 1 BTC denomination (unloaded ofcourse).

I guess that there would be a demand for 2 versions - one possibly silver, at a cost and one cheaper to manufacture (brass? maybe even plastic?) for the users that meet certain criteria and just want a souvenir.








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another option. make a memorable set of three or five coins, with various memorable events of the forum.

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So basically only Chipmixer campaigners get it?  Roll Eyes
Lol, I don't know about that but I would certainly like to know what those criteria would be--and I'd absolutely love to own such a neat thing.  I don't even care if the coin was made out of precious metal or loaded with btc or anything else.  It's a great idea, IMO, and I fully support it.

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Yes It does sound like a good idea and I would gladly buy one.


No, not a good idea, as there was already a bitcointalk.org collectible coin


But this one will be a 10th anniversary coin so it will be different than the older one.




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Will it be a souvenir or a real coin accepted for payment? This is an important point.
p.s. most likely the correct definition would be the ďtable medalĒ.
p.s.s. If you strive to make an expensive medal, you can make a case of bog oak or other wood without resin.

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Iím never saying no to a good looking crypto- related collectable.
Great idea, as long as you make sure all of us collectors are able to get one Cheesy
Perhaps you can get casascius to make one last round of coins, similar to his superbowl coin.
As the first one who created physical crypto coins, that would definitely be a great thing!

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Yes, good idea

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I would love something like this theymos as I am sure many others would also. I would prefer something with the weight and feel of a eagle or maple leaf so I can use it at the card table for a marker. A limited numbered run would be preferable and add to its collectible nature imho.

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For bitcointalk.org's 10th anniversary later this year, I was thinking that it might be cool to produce a limited run of 50-300 coins and give them out (maybe all-expenses-paid or maybe at cost) to users who meet some to-be-determined criteria. I'm not a collector, though, so I'm not knowledgeable about this stuff.

 - Does this sound like a good idea?
 - What features would make the coin especially interesting?
 - What's the best way to get a coin like this made?

Talk to krogothmanhattan. He makes physical coin giveaways often. Like here >https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110106.0

I am sure he can help set you up with the manufacturer of the coins.
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I like the idea of a bitcointalk forum coin to celebrate the moment. DIY would be preferred do ; )
As there will be more interested people then coins produced a blockchian raffle maybe ?

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How about something like this?



Its a crude design but the idea is to show the earth rotating around the sun (in the middle, raised).

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Iím never saying no to a good looking crypto- related collectable.
Great idea, as long as you make sure all of us collectors are able to get one Cheesy
Perhaps you can get casascius to make one last round of coins, similar to his superbowl coin.
As the first one who created physical crypto coins, that would definitely be a great thing!

Cheers,

If somehow this would be a possibility that would be epic.  Dont think mike has an interest anymore he completed his mission but that would make one hell of a release day.  Popcorn would be ready

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Iím never saying no to a good looking crypto- related collectable.
Great idea, as long as you make sure all of us collectors are able to get one Cheesy
Perhaps you can get casascius to make one last round of coins, similar to his superbowl coin.
As the first one who created physical crypto coins, that would definitely be a great thing!

Cheers,

If somehow this would be a possibility that would be epic.  Dont think mike has an interest anymore he completed his mission but that would make one hell of a release day.  Popcorn would be ready

If mike was willing to design and mint 1000 of these anniversary coins, similar to how he did the st. pete bowl coins, that would be the bees knees!

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I think thatís a great idea theymos.   Maybe have a contest and pick the best design?    


Perhaps it could have the anniversary days and display the bitcoin price then vs now?
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What makes them superior from other users of this forum? Posting quality? Oh man, what has posting quality to do with collectibles?
Posting quality means in one way, you contributed to the forum, and besides, it was a sarcastic remark. 

That's certainly a very bad idea. It would become a hectic work for the coin maker or probably the coin will never come out actually! It should be of similar patterns with numbering from 1-1000/2000 and giving them out on the basis of account age of the user. For instance if the user registered on 2010 they would be receiving the first set of coins and later on.
Not really. If these are going to be rare coins, might as well make it count!

Just so you know, almost 95%(Ddmr Ddmr/LoyceV, you can correct me of course with the right stats) of users registered in 2010 aren't active, and they *left* the forum.

My say is that the coins should go to those who deserve the most, for the years of contributing some people have done here, the least they could get is a collectible.  Lips sealed


So basically only Chipmixer campaigners get it?  Roll Eyes
Lol, I don't know about that but I would certainly like to know what those criteria would be--and I'd absolutely love to own such a neat thing.  I don't even care if the coin was made out of precious metal or loaded with btc or anything else.  It's a great idea, IMO, and I fully support it.
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It'd be cool , if we all chipmixer participants have a collectible coin of our own too, to remind us of how much we have tortured the scammers, nae the faint-hearted.

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great idea !

just make a commemorative coin, not loaded with any BTC and give a serialnumber , 1oz 0.999 Silver

have it designed by some dedicated forum members like Bitcoinpenny or Mjbmonetarymetals.

make a contest where all members can vote for their favorite design and give away a coin random to like 5 to 10 member who voted. Rest of the series, don't how how to give them away, maybe auction or let forum members vote for respected member who deserve a coin, let mods pick members who get a coin??
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Great idea Cheesy

I would prefer a coin with hologram, precious metal and limited Cheesy

Whatever the design or specs, i'd like to see this happen please
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......there was already a bitcointalk.org collectible coin


anyone have more info on this? duckduckgo isnt helping.
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I love the idea. There are some solid coin makers in here that am sure can give you some advice in the art of coin making. Bigtimesphagetti even wrote a book about it. Wink

  I would suggest silver 1oz coins. Loaded preferably. Limited to 100 coins. Goodluck

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1. random raffle, provably fair, sha256 hash of user's name and random secret known by 2 different people revealed on the day, so everyone can verify who won. Hash sorted and lowest 100 wins.

2. comes with a loaded opendime, so no need to do anything to the physical coin or etch anything to it. (ha, i wish.)

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Sounds like a good idea. Watching.

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Oh me likey likey!!!!

to users who meet some to-be-determined criteria.
So basically only Chipmixer campaigners get it?  Roll Eyes

Features:

Each coin to be specially designed as per each user's UID and have their UID engraved in it. Or even better, engrave the user's avatar and name on one side, and a default bitcointalk logo, or anything that exclusively defines bitcointalk on the other side.

How about THAT?

Also if possible, load the exact amount of satoshis/ ubtc/mbtc equivalent to the merit/post count of the person receiving it?

Yeah if it would be a coin.... Then Some coins with HAT-avatars would be an awesome collectible Smiley


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Get XhomerX10 for Some design idea’s , thats the Guy keeping the WO colourfull day in day out Wink

But if it would come, i’m looking forward for the outcome.... and hope to own one with all the rest of coiners in here Wink

Maybe make them Unique to each member you wanna give the opportunity of having one
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Great idea.
Like jojo said .999 Ag, size of a dollar coin, and some cool scifi design.
I would love that, great initiative.

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Very cool idea, I would without a doubt buy one!

Though I must say I'm kinda useless when it comes to throwing up ideas for it, though I would buy it!




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I suggest doing in batches with date and with drawings that refer to an important fact that has occurred in the forum.
That is, a batch with the date of 2010 could have reference to the topic about the Laszlo pizza. The 2013 coin about HODLING. And so on.

In addition, it could have two types. One of .999 Ag and one of brass. So more people could buy or participate in the raffle.
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Interesting to see all these new faces in the collectibles section when theymos makes a post... loolz

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If the coin is successful, small circulation will create prerequisites for fakes, it is now commonplace. In the creation technology there should be complexity for protection against fakes.

If this is a reward, the serial numbers will let you know the story. There may be several degrees of merit and several variants of execution.

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If the coin is successful, small circulation will create prerequisites for fakes, it is now commonplace. In the creation technology there should be complexity for protection against fakes.

If this is a reward, the serial numbers will let you know the story. There may be several degrees of merit and several variants of execution.

If this project is in the style of minimalism, then everything is much simpler. Smiley

Fakes commonplace?   where, please show me......


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If the coin is successful, small circulation will create prerequisites for fakes, it is now commonplace. In the creation technology there should be complexity for protection against fakes.

If this is a reward, the serial numbers will let you know the story. There may be several degrees of merit and several variants of execution.

If this project is in the style of minimalism, then everything is much simpler. Smiley

Fakes commonplace?   where, please show me......


collectors always discuss a coin on the forum to make sure it is original. a lot of fakes, modern equipment has improved the quality of fakes. But each period had its own technology and there are small nuances of production. it makes sense if there is an expensive item.

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id like to see more 2 try ounces of silver coins, single ounce would also be good. maybe a yearly release like steem coins?

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Interesting to see all these new faces in the collectibles section when theymos makes a post... loolz
It seems they were actively following all his topics and would chime in regardless of sections in which he posts!  Grin

If the coin is successful, small circulation will create prerequisites for fakes, it is now commonplace.
Is this really true? If the idea of the coin/bar/note is very unique and difficult to reproduce we won't be seeing much of these fakes probably. Casascius coins were one among the few rare coins to be copied and reproduced, apart from that I don't see much fakes being reproduced! If that was so, it would completely destroy the value of coin in long run. Even some common chips like satoris and BTCC and coins like Bitcoin Penny haven't been reproduced even though they are somewhat easier to fake when compared to other premium collectibles like Lealana and Kialaras.

a lot of fakes, modern equipment has improved the quality of fakes.
Have you encountered any fakes for Kialara moon suites or the recently produced Kialara Hydras?
What are your basis for these claims?

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If the coin is successful, small circulation will create prerequisites for fakes, it is now commonplace.
Is this really true? If the idea of the coin/bar/note is very unique and difficult to reproduce we won't be seeing much of these fakes probably. Casascius coins were one among the few rare coins to be copied and reproduced, apart from that I don't see much fakes being reproduced! If that was so, it would completely destroy the value of coin in long run. Even some common chips like satoris and BTCC and coins like Bitcoin Penny haven't been reproduced even though they are somewhat easier to fake when compared to other premium collectibles like Lealana and Kialaras.

a lot of fakes, modern equipment has improved the quality of fakes.
Have you encountered any fakes for Kialara moon suites or the recently produced Kialara Hydras?
What are your basis for these claims?
I am familiar only with the coins of the Russian Empire and the USSR. Very often attract high-end experts to determine. In Russian-speaking forums, it is often written that this is a threatening statistic both for the Middle Ages and for the 18th century and for the USSR. Although it is different technologies and metals. In rare instances, it has become customary to order a professional examination. I have seen a lot of sales, with a certificate in the kit.

Perhaps theymos will want to make an ordinary memorable copy, inexpensive. A copper medal with a good design will also be beautiful.

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If the coin is successful, small circulation will create prerequisites for fakes, it is now commonplace. In the creation technology there should be complexity for protection against fakes.

If this is a reward, the serial numbers will let you know the story. There may be several degrees of merit and several variants of execution.

If this project is in the style of minimalism, then everything is much simpler. Smiley

Fakes commonplace?   where, please show me......


collectors always discuss a coin on the forum to make sure it is original. a lot of fakes, modern equipment has improved the quality of fakes. But each period had its own technology and there are small nuances of production. it makes sense if there is an expensive item.

When?  Show at least one example of this happening.

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If the coin is successful, small circulation will create prerequisites for fakes, it is now commonplace. In the creation technology there should be complexity for protection against fakes.

If this is a reward, the serial numbers will let you know the story. There may be several degrees of merit and several variants of execution.

If this project is in the style of minimalism, then everything is much simpler. Smiley

Fakes commonplace?   where, please show me......


collectors always discuss a coin on the forum to make sure it is original. a lot of fakes, modern equipment has improved the quality of fakes. But each period had its own technology and there are small nuances of production. it makes sense if there is an expensive item.

When?  Show at least one example of this happening.

I think they are referring to non-crypto coins. Wink

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If the coin is successful, small circulation will create prerequisites for fakes, it is now commonplace. In the creation technology there should be complexity for protection against fakes.

If this is a reward, the serial numbers will let you know the story. There may be several degrees of merit and several variants of execution.

If this project is in the style of minimalism, then everything is much simpler. Smiley

Fakes commonplace?   where, please show me......


collectors always discuss a coin on the forum to make sure it is original. a lot of fakes, modern equipment has improved the quality of fakes. But each period had its own technology and there are small nuances of production. it makes sense if there is an expensive item.

When?  Show at least one example of this happening.

I think they are referring to non-crypto coins. Wink
of course. Ordinary coins, numismatics. :)We are discussing coins from metal?))

if in the search to enter fake coins there will be many articles and photos.

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If the coin is successful, small circulation will create prerequisites for fakes, it is now commonplace. In the creation technology there should be complexity for protection against fakes.

If this is a reward, the serial numbers will let you know the story. There may be several degrees of merit and several variants of execution.

If this project is in the style of minimalism, then everything is much simpler. Smiley

Fakes commonplace?   where, please show me......


collectors always discuss a coin on the forum to make sure it is original. a lot of fakes, modern equipment has improved the quality of fakes. But each period had its own technology and there are small nuances of production. it makes sense if there is an expensive item.

When?  Show at least one example of this happening.



I think they are referring to non-crypto coins. Wink
of course. Ordinary coins, numismatics. :)We are discussing coins from metal?))

if in the search to enter fake coins there will be many articles and photos.

We have many tools to determine fake coins, welcome to the collectibles section.

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If the coin is successful, small circulation will create prerequisites for fakes, it is now commonplace. In the creation technology there should be complexity for protection against fakes.

If this is a reward, the serial numbers will let you know the story. There may be several degrees of merit and several variants of execution.

If this project is in the style of minimalism, then everything is much simpler. Smiley

Fakes commonplace?   where, please show me......


collectors always discuss a coin on the forum to make sure it is original. a lot of fakes, modern equipment has improved the quality of fakes. But each period had its own technology and there are small nuances of production. it makes sense if there is an expensive item.

When?  Show at least one example of this happening.

I think they are referring to non-crypto coins. Wink
of course. Ordinary coins, numismatics. :)We are discussing coins from metal?))

if in the search to enter fake coins there will be many articles and photos.

Indeed!
We have our own threads here in collectibles for fake and compromised physical bitcoins.
Have a look.. some good information collected by our community. Cheesy
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I just ask the OP to consult some of the ORIGINAL  collectors to keep from cocking up this good idea.  Last thing you need is too many damn cooks in the kitchen.  Just my 2 Satoshis.  Wink

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IMO I would like to see theymos get in contact with Kialara, smoothie (Lealana), and Mike Caldwell (Casascius). These guys have 1oz, 2oz coins on lockdown and create absolutely stunning pieces. Not to say we don't have some other very capable coin creators but those three come to mind as being very large parts of the growth of this particular board on the forum. I'd throw eodguy in there but so far the last coin he teased here seemed to never come to fruition. Mind you they could possibly already have a lot on their plate due to upcoming releases, but with the proper incentive and exposure im sure they could create something incredible.

We have some incredible holograms kicking around aswell.. use the resources we have and make this coin a must have.
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Why is the number ranging from 50-300, isn't it pretty low for such a huge forum? Are there only 300 reputed members? May be you could give around 1000-2000 coins to all those willing to expose their location to you primarily since most of them remain anonymous. Also what would be the purpose of giving someone a collectible coin (which might be quite rare) if they doesn't know what it is?
50-300 is fine.

If we do not state a definite upper limit then we run into a Sorites paradox, where n+1 is as good as n and hence we arbitrarily increase.

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This is a great idea.

If Mike Caldwell would do the run, as some people have suggested, that would be even more exciting as some sort of closing the loop from the first physicals.

To avoid counterfeits maybe a metal stamping (or laser engraving) machine could individually engrave a derivation of a user supplied public key so that an index of all originally issued coins can be published. Way better than a hologram unless someone intends to also store BTC on it (which I don't think is the point in this case).

Will keep on watching this thread Smiley

P.S.: Also it would be a good idea to make it from Silver. It's not like that would make it much more expensive to produce.

P.S.2: Titanium would also be great and it would in some way "show" the evolution from classic PM's to a more advanced store of value as Bitcoin represents. I think it is harder to manufacture (proof of work lol) though. Not sure... what do the experts say?

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Good idea. I'd like to see an assembled unfunded coin.

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IMO I would like to see theymos get in contact with Kialara, smoothie (Lealana), and Mike Caldwell (Casascius). These guys have 1oz, 2oz coins on lockdown and create absolutely stunning pieces. Not to say we don't have some other very capable coin creators but those three come to mind as being very large parts of the growth of this particular board on the forum. I'd throw eodguy in there but so far the last coin he teased here seemed to never come to fruition. Mind you they could possibly already have a lot on their plate due to upcoming releases, but with the proper incentive and exposure im sure they could create something incredible.

We have some incredible holograms kicking around aswell.. use the resources we have and make this coin a must have.

Overall, the idea of a 10-year commemorative coin seems decent, and perhaps could be a nice and symbolic thing to do.

I find some of the responsive comments in this thread to confuse me regarding: 1) the purpose of such coin, 2) the forum's historical discussions on coin-making/distribution topics, 3) whether an actual forum coin has either been attempted or carried out in the past and 4) what would be the budget for such a coin?

OP's outline of current contemplations did not help because in my thinking, there would be a considerable different purpose of such a coin depending on whether such coin were given out "all expenses paid" or "at cost," but either way, mailing addresses would need to be provided for recipients.

The quantity of coins being contemplated, such as 50-300 coins, seems to conceptualize the coins as a kind of "thank you for your contribution" token rather than a speculative collectors piece, but if the coins were going to be given out "at cost" then they might be more of a speculative piece that would justify a larger production of units, such as some responders suggested 1,000 to 2,000 coins (but maybe still could stick with 50-300 for the initial production batch to test out sentiment (pre-orders, too) even though considering a larger total amount, so long as the demand covers the costs of the coin).

Furthermore, depending on the coin materials, such coin costs and material value could reasonably be anywhere between $1 and $100, and of course, the more coins that are made would bring down the production cost per unit.  Several members mentioned silver as an upgrade, so maybe there are thoughts of cheaper coins too, yet perhaps gold would be a bit more classy... hahahahaha

As I have been thinking through the issue, I have been becoming somewhat torn about the whole idea, yet I am sort of inclined towards the idea of a "all expenses paid" give away coin rather than something more complicated in order to limit liability or accusations of profit making, yet I am still unclear about what kind of budget would theymos been anticipating. 

If the coin were given out "all expenses paid" then would the budget be $300, $3k or $30k or somewhere in the middle?
 Something like $1 x 300 or $10 x 300, or $100 x 300?  or if the purchasers of the coin were to pay for the coin, then there would have to be a perception of value from the users in terms of how much they would be willing to pay to cover the "costs" of such coin and also a willingness to provide a mailing address for receipt of such coin. 

Personally, the more that I think through this and type about it, I believe that it would be better to just establish a budget for the coin, and then provide the coins as a "give away" all expenses paid. Then the budget, such as $3k or $30k (or somewhere between) might dictate how many coins could be made for that amount, depending on if there would be access to people who are experienced in the coin-making business as teeGUMES mentioned.. or if the coin-making vender would be opened up for biddings and request for proposals (RFPs).

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It doesn't have to be pure gold or silver. Triple electroplated gold over tungsten would make it feel as heavy as gold and look just as good, but of course, that better be stated up front.

But then again, a precious metal collectible coin from "the" bitcointalk forum that isn't 0.999 of a particular metal ...

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someone has stumbled onto a goldmine Smiley

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Load 10 coins with 10btc to celebrate 10 years.

Have a fun draw or other type of entry.

That would be cool.

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IMHO an anniversary bitcointalk collectible coin would be awesome!

I would prefer something designed by Mike caldwell.

If it is difficult to make an loaded coin happen it could be something like the St. Petersburg bowl coin for example.

If it is a loaded coin it would be awesome if the privatekey is engraved which would drive up premium though.

Something very different would be an unique opendime design with a limited run.

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I can't wait to see this in action. It lets me want to create a design too, but for me, it would be playing cards. Lol.





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For bitcointalk.org's 10th anniversary later this year, I was thinking that it might be cool to produce a limited run of 50-300 coins and give them out (maybe all-expenses-paid or maybe at cost) to users who meet some to-be-determined criteria. I'm not a collector, though, so I'm not knowledgeable about this stuff.

 - Does this sound like a good idea?
 - What features would make the coin especially interesting?
 - What's the best way to get a coin like this made?

Gold coins loaded with BTC - is there anything better then that?  Grin

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Cardboard coins. Unique and only of value to Bitcoin enthusiasts.

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Cardboard coins. Unique and only of value to Bitcoin enthusiasts.
Why not clear plastic coins like BitcoinPenny did? Grin

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How about chocolate coins with the gold foil.

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If you plan on giving them for free, maybe work with one of the coin makers on the forum, and give them some sort of unique signature? Something to prove that the coin was genuinely affiliated with bitcointalk at some point.

For example instead of minting new coins, send a dust transaction from the forum's donation address to the new coins. Or maybe have the design contain some unique handwritten signature, or anything really that's more sentimental rather than valuable.

I don't know what your criteria is going to be, and while I'm an old time member & my usage of the forums is more seasonal, since I made and lost a lot on bitcoin, it would be nice if I could get one. It's a great initiative though, good luck.

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For those of you who have no idea about collectibles.... when done wrong, they fail like this forum inspired set.





p.s.  O.P. I canít believe the amount of users who follow your every move!!  Lol.  Never seen 90% of these users in collectibles over the last year.  They all canít actually care about collectibles since theyíve never been here before.  That would leave 2 types of users IMO.  People who just want to kiss your ass or people just looking for free s**t!  Either way itís sad. 

It would be terrible if you created a forum coin and the actual collectors on your forum, who MADE this section what it is, didnít get one. 






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For those of you who have no idea about collectibles.... when done wrong, they fail like this forum inspired set.





p.s.  O.P. I canít believe the amount of users who follow your every move!!  Lol.  Never seen 90% of these users in collectibles over the last year.  They all canít actually care about collectibles since theyíve never been here before.  That would leave 2 types of users IMO.  People who just want to kiss your ass or people just looking for free s**t!  Either way itís sad. 

It would be terrible if you created a forum coin and the actual collectors on your forum, who MADE this section what it is, didnít get one. 







I am actually amazed to see so many different folks in here.  That set was made by a scammer, who didnt even make much off that scam.  Following this thread with interest, it'd be nice if there were some new faces in the physical collecting scene for sure though.

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I'd like to see this happen. I agree to it being a silver 1oz coin

Then need to decide if it is a token - ie just metal, or if it could have the potential to be funded - ie private key and hologram (and then decide if it is funded, or DIY)

My thoughts are that I would love a funded coin, but the expenses and trust issues may make this trickier. Something like the Casascius St Petersburg Bowl coin may be more practical. BUT a bitcointalk forum coin, without bitcoin .... doesnt seem right.

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Interesting to see all these new faces in the collectibles section when theymos makes a post... loolz

Iím happy to be here a few days before of that Roll Eyes

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I have long wanted to put out a community coin designed by the community, for the community.

Would be great if lots of people could be involved with this project.

If you need any help theymos, Iím pretty sure that I can get these made cheaper and with a higher quality (see the grades my coins get) than most. Iíd also be willing to offer my engraving services, but am not sure that private keys known by an individual would be a great idea. Perhaps more as a personalization or customization option.

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p.s.  O.P. I canít believe the amount of users who follow your every move!!  Lol.  Never seen 90% of these users in collectibles over the last year.  They all canít actually care about collectibles since theyíve never been here before.  That would leave 2 types of users IMO.  People who just want to kiss your ass or people just looking for free s**t!  Either way itís sad. 


Really?

You sure you don't want to take a second thought about that claim of yours?

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I have long wanted to put out a community coin designed by the community, for the community.

Would be great if lots of people could be involved with this project.

If you need any help theymos, Iím pretty sure that I can get these made cheaper and with a higher quality (see the grades my coins get) than most. Iíd also be willing to offer my engraving services, but am not sure that private keys known by an individual would be a great idea. Perhaps more as a personalization or customization option.

Plenty of other makers that can produce coins of same or lower cost and of the same or better quality.

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I do hope there will be a coin-makers-team named : BLOCK : Bitcoinpenny Lealana Ognasty Casascius Kialara

the best coinmakers join their knowledge and creativity

so you better start contacting them soon theymos  Grin
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People who just want to kiss your ass or people just looking for free s**t!  Either way itís sad. 

 Or a group of people that have been around here long enough, that have been scammed enough times, grown thicker skins as a result, learned more than most do in a lifetime, and have come to appreciate an "officially sanctioned" forums collectible.

 Either way, suck my fat black cock.

 M'kay ?
Lol.  I don't know what category I fall under here, but I'm a fan of the forum--not necessarily physical bitcoin collectibles--and that's what drew my attention.  I had suggested a deck of cards a few months ago with much the same intent (not commemorating the 10 year anniversary, though). 

I'm not looking for a freebie, nor do I think I'd even qualify for one since I haven't even been here 4 years yet.  Just voicing my support....and now I'll slowly back away, shutting the door gently on my way out.  Peace out.

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This thread is about a COMMUNITY coin, this isn't a pissing match. Yes people have come in here following theymos' post that aren't naturally in the Collectibles board every day. Does that mean they aren't a part of the bitcointalk community? No it doesn't.
Do we have a lot of coin creators that are active right now? Yes we do. Does that mean we should shit on somebody for offering their services? No it doesn't.
Do we also have coin creators that fucked right off due to toxicity on the Collectibles board? Absolutely. So keep your comments to yourself if you aren't going to act as a community for a community sourced coin.
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People who just want to kiss your ass or people just looking for free s**t!  Either way itís sad.  

 Or a group of people that have been around here long enough, that have been scammed enough times, grown thicker skins as a result, learned more than most do in a lifetime, and have come to appreciate an "officially sanctioned" forums collectible.

 Either way, suck my fat black cock.

 M'kay ?
Fair enough and I appreciate your point.  On the flip side if you spent some more time in the section youíd see how much better it is.  The old collectors police it pretty well.  People watching out for one another to avoid the scams you may have grown accustomed to.  All kinds of tech being used as well.  A wonderful Casascius tracker among others to help raise a red flag should coins start being swept.  

pass on the blowjob Wink


Really?

You sure you don't want to take a second thought about that claim of yours?

I can obviously be wrong, proven by the well hung black man quoted above.  


Edit:
Apologies for derailing this.  Sure, sometimes Iím an asshole....

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I have long wanted to put out a community coin designed by the community, for the community.

Would be great if lots of people could be involved with this project.

If you need any help theymos, Iím pretty sure that I can get these made cheaper and with a higher quality (see the grades my coins get) than most. Iíd also be willing to offer my engraving services, but am not sure that private keys known by an individual would be a great idea. Perhaps more as a personalization or customization option.

Plenty of other makers that can produce coins of same or lower cost and of the same or better quality.

From what Iíve seen over the years when it comes to coins being graded and their pricing, I disagree with your statement. However, I do urge theymos to do the legwork to get quotes and review prior coin grades as opposed to taking my word for it.

As for features, I'd point to the last coin I created as having some great ones.
  • .9999 Fine Silver (four 9's)
  • Engraved Private Key
  • Sequential Vanity Address
  • Enameled Colorization
  • Partial Select Gold Plating
  • Custom Hologram

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While he did a fairly big no-no a couple of years back, I think that if this actually comes to fruition then CryptoImperator's input would be valuable when it comes to design.
If we're just talking about the quality of coins that have come out in recent times, I would probably place him near (or at) the top.
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Lets not forget oneNattylitecoin...amazing designs for sure.




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I have long wanted to put out a community coin designed by the community, for the community.

Would be great if lots of people could be involved with this project.

If you need any help theymos, Iím pretty sure that I can get these made cheaper and with a higher quality (see the grades my coins get) than most. Iíd also be willing to offer my engraving services, but am not sure that private keys known by an individual would be a great idea. Perhaps more as a personalization or customization option.

Plenty of other makers that can produce coins of same or lower cost and of the same or better quality.

From what Iíve seen over the years when it comes to coins being graded and their pricing, I disagree with your statement. However, I do urge theymos to do the legwork to get quotes and review prior coin grades as opposed to taking my word for it.

As for features, I'd point to the last coin I created as having some great ones.
  • .9999 Fine Silver (four 9's)
  • Engraved Private Key
  • Sequential Vanity Address
  • Enameled Colorization
  • Partial Select Gold Plating
  • Custom Hologram

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Iím never saying no to a good looking crypto- related collectable.
Great idea, as long as you make sure all of us collectors are able to get one Cheesy
Perhaps you can get casascius to make one last round of coins, similar to his superbowl coin.
As the first one who created physical crypto coins, that would definitely be a great thing!

Cheers,

Great idea Bavi!   (To ask Mike Caldwell of Casascius to design it)

Love the idea for a 10-year anniversary coin.
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How the hell you become a collector?Well, you start from somewhere of course and here is one great chance for those who want to be collectors, but did't have enough knowledge to buy some coins in the Collectibles section.
I've been browsing around for a while looking on different coins but never had the bet on any auction.
It will probably come the time when I will join the collectors' brotherhood. All my experience till now was the Krogos' free raffles, in which I won a few coins.
I'll keep an eye on this idea. It will be good start for me Smiley





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have it designed by some dedicated forum members like...(snip)...Mjbmonetarymetals.

This is a great idea.  Mick having designed the first precious metal physical Bitcoin collectible along with many other things in this community over a period of ~8 years makes him an excellent candidate for designing a community round.  His original design is already widely circulated in the media in crypto related articles also.

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I would love a bitcointalk commemorative coin Cheesy

I would be thrilled it this turned into a competition between the best coin designers on this forum!

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May be you can give away the coins to the top contributors to this forum and other small contributors can probably be awarded with a polymerbit note? That could be better actually. There are quite good coin makers in the market right from Kialara, CryptoImperator and others whom you can hire to bring the best out of their minds to commemorate the 10th year anniversary.
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I like the sound of this. We could have a design and print done rather quickly, and be ready to ship before the anniversary.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5259224.0
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p.s.  O.P. I canít believe the amount of users who follow your every move!!  Lol.  Never seen 90% of these users in collectibles over the last year.  They all canít actually care about collectibles since theyíve never been here before.  That would leave 2 types of users IMO.  People who just want to kiss your ass or people just looking for free s**t!  Either way itís sad. 

It would be terrible if you created a forum coin and the actual collectors on your forum, who MADE this section what it is, didnít get one. 


Lol, so you're saying a forum coin, made to give back something to the people who gave the most to the forums, should be given to you, a 1-year old member that only posts in one section, because you're a coin collector.

If anything, coin collectors are probably the last people to give a shit about sentimental value, as this coin is just going to be "yet another coin" of your collection. Stop with the tribalism and let people enjoy things.

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p.s.  O.P. I canít believe the amount of users who follow your every move!!  Lol.  Never seen 90% of these users in collectibles over the last year.  They all canít actually care about collectibles since theyíve never been here before.  That would leave 2 types of users IMO.  People who just want to kiss your ass or people just looking for free s**t!  Either way itís sad. 

It would be terrible if you created a forum coin and the actual collectors on your forum, who MADE this section what it is, didnít get one. 


Lol, so you're saying a forum coin, made to give back something to the people who gave the most to the forums, should be given to you, a 1-year old member that only posts in one section, because you're a coin collector.

If anything, coin collectors are probably the last people to give a shit about sentimental value, as this coin is just going to be "yet another coin" of your collection. Stop with the tribalism and let people enjoy things.
Not once did I say me.  I wasnít expecting a damn thing.  I know Iím new here, but stating coin collectors are the last people to give a shit about sentimental value is about as ignorant as it gets.  The majority of collectors are collectors because of sentimental value. 

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I think some guys earlier nailed it - just reach our to some of the experienced guys and either commission them or hear their words of wisdom. Talking nasty, cas, lea, etc.
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I think some guys earlier nailed it - just reach our to some of the experienced guys and either commission them or hear their words of wisdom. Talking nasty, cas, lea, etc.
Maybe even do a poll like coinographic did way back when choosing between multiple designs? 5 designs, 5 choices.

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if we are doing votes

i put three names forward for the coin making

- Nattylitecoin
- CryptoImperator
- BitcoinPenny


Or as suggested by LC

Can go for a Cool Art Bar which will be way better than any other coin imho
by Kialara/max  Ofcourse Cheesy

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if we are doing votes

i put three names forward for the coin making

- Nattylitecoin
- CryptoImperator
- BitcoinPenny

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if we are doing votes

i put three names forward for the coin making

- Nattylitecoin
- CryptoImperator
- BitcoinPenny

Max/Kialara  Edit to add w/ Julia


Indeed! The bars are so beautiful and bring out something worth for 10 years of forum fun
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p.s.  O.P. I canít believe the amount of users who follow your every move!!  Lol.  Never seen 90% of these users in collectibles over the last year.  They all canít actually care about collectibles since theyíve never been here before.  That would leave 2 types of users IMO.  People who just want to kiss your ass or people just looking for free s**t!  Either way itís sad.  

It would be terrible if you created a forum coin and the actual collectors on your forum, who MADE this section what it is, didnít get one.  


Lol, so you're saying a forum coin, made to give back something to the people who gave the most to the forums, should be given to you, a 1-year old member that only posts in one section, because you're a coin collector.

If anything, coin collectors are probably the last people to give a shit about sentimental value, as this coin is just going to be "yet another coin" of your collection. Stop with the tribalism and let people enjoy things.

Let's just leave this wierd route this thread has taken alone.  But please dont all generalize coin collectors as people who dont consider sentimental value  Just take a look at cas coins, they are not the most artistic, but there is a sentimental value to them that coin collectors truly value.

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Let's just leave this wierd route this thread has taken alone.  But please dont all generalize coin collectors as people who dont consider sentimental value  Just take a look at cas coins, they are not the most artistic, but there is a sentimental value to them that coin collectors truly value.

Sorry, you're right, I take back that line. It was more sent to anonymousminer, you don't need to be a coin collector or need to have any sort of knowledge about collecting coins for you to be relevant here. I already said before that I'm probably not going to get it either, as there's probably a very short list of people theymos consider extremely valuable icons to the forums.

But the whole point was that, you just need to be a contributor to the forums, nothing more or less.

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February 19, 2019, 04:35:36 AM
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- Does this sound like a good idea?
Im been waiting for that idea. for commemorating bitcointalk.org's 10th anniversary.

- What features would make the coin especially interesting?
- Gets the value on the coin.
- Unique Number (#Limited).
- Certificate, maybe.

- What's the best way to get a coin like this made?
That is  definitely a rare collection coin. But let's be fair, I suggest the lottery or raffle mode.

Let's do some vote  Cheesy

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This sounds like an awesome idea! Really hope it works out.

With regards to the design, I personally find the simpler but distinct ones to be a lot more appealing. It would be pretty cool if the coin design was linked to bitcointalk not just explicitly, but also contained some sort of hidden/secret message. Just a thought.
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In my opinion Mike should do the coin. Cas coins are nr. 1, great design, flawless mint.
Perhaps do a combination of 1000 gold and 0.1 silver
0.1 BTC gold coin!

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February 19, 2019, 08:25:48 AM
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A small run of a coin is obviously more costly than a larger one. It seems part of the idea of Theymos is to give the coin for free to some members that deserve it according to a not-yet-specified criteria. Probably a small group, more so if the coin features/quality make it costly.

Also that would leave many people interested "out of the deal".

Maybe the solution is to make a larger run, thus reducing the premium, and some people get it for free and the rest can buy it at cost? Also it is unknown where and how much the money going to cover the cost of the free coins is coming from. Another possibility is that there is a small surcharge on the paid coins to cover the cost of the free ones.

That would probably make a better coin be produced than if the budget was more restricted (ie. only free run).

Win-Win for everyone?

Also I would think a cool feature for a coin like this would be to have engraved (no holo) the nickname and or a user supplied public key (not a private one - not your keys, not your bitcoins you know). That would raise the sentimental value and meaning of the coin for forum members, and also substantially reduce the resell market of it.

Just some random ideas...


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Will be watching this thread closely. I'd throw my hat in the ring, sounds like an awesome project. Competition could be a great way to go about choosing a design.




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Damn I first thought it is a normal user initiative, that would be great to see, and i would rather pay a bit and have it silver Smiley.

Edit: Perhaps a bitcoin chart ? I mean for one side of the coin.

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Will be watching this thread closely. I'd throw my hat in the ring, sounds like an awesome project. Competition could be a great way to go about choosing a design.

I agree on the competition, great idea.
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just curious what's gonna come out of this Smiley

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I'm not a collector, but a Bitcointalk coin somehow sounds very attractive. Until now I haven't even joined any of the many giveaways because I don't want to dox myself, but I might have to reconsider for this anniversary edition.

Iíd also be willing to offer my engraving services, but am not sure that private keys known by an individual would be a great idea.
BIP38 can limit the risk, if only the receiver knows the password and the encrypted key gets engraved.

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I'm not a collector, but a Bitcointalk coin somehow sounds very attractive. Until now I haven't even joined any of the many giveaways because I don't want to dox myself, but I might have to reconsider for this anniversary edition.


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I'm not a collector, but a Bitcointalk coin somehow sounds very attractive. Until now I haven't even joined any of the many giveaways because I don't want to dox myself, but I might have to reconsider for this anniversary edition.


  Getting a PO Box is a good way to prevent this.  Wink

Or sending it to a friend, which is what I plan to do. It's not like I need perfect opsec anyways.

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im in for several.

1 oz .999 silver is my preference.
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February 21, 2019, 05:11:21 AM
#112

We all know of some really experienced collectors and some amazing designers here, by pointing out who should design vs who should not is just not fair among designers.

My suggestion:
1. Create a small group of 10-15 EXPERIENCED and KNOWLEDGEABLE collectors as judges
2. All designers submit their designs to them.
3. After review they can choose whatever number of designs(maybe around 3-5) they choose and create the polls along with/without the prices for the community to choose the final design.
4. For distribution - that's little bit tricky and don't have any idea how to do that, i am sure one of the senior members can chime in new creative idea or probably some way that was used in one of the earlier auctions or sales.


After all this is a community anniversary coin that we are talking about and we should let community choose.



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4. For distribution - that's little bit tricky and don't have any idea how to do that, i am sure one of the senior members can chime in new creative idea or probably some way that was used in one of the earlier auctions or sales.

Im sure a lot of coin manufacturers know how to ship their coins to multiple people. For example Krogothmanhattan jhas given away hundreds of coins so far, by now I'd bet he has a lot of experience on the how of it.

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Never mind Silver.

It seems only proper that any limited offering be minted on, at least 99%+ Au.

Bitcoin is ultimately looking to supplant Au.

It's poetic.

... personally, I would wish for Platinum, but recognize reality being what it is.

How about we make it from jade instead? And instead of the shape of the coin, we will make it the shape of your favorite green object.  Cheesy
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I'd definitely like one!
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We all know of some really experienced collectors and some amazing designers here, by pointing out who should design vs who should not is just not fair among designers.

My suggestion:
1. Create a small group of 10-15 EXPERIENCED and KNOWLEDGEABLE collectors as judges
2. All designers submit their designs to them.
3. After review they can choose whatever number of designs(maybe around 3-5) they choose and create the polls along with/without the prices for the community to choose the final design.
4. For distribution - that's little bit tricky and don't have any idea how to do that, i am sure one of the senior members can chime in new creative idea or probably some way that was used in one of the earlier auctions or sales.


After all this is a community anniversary coin that we are talking about and we should let community choose.




I like this idea, a contest will be nice for this one.

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February 21, 2019, 09:40:11 AM
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50-300 is fine.
If we do not state a definite upper limit then we run into a Sorites paradox, where n+1 is as good as n and hence we arbitrarily increase.
Wouldn't it make those 50-300 limited run coins more costly? If they are rare, these coins will surely be auctioned in future which shouldn't happen, since theymos has said that he offers these anniversary coins to only to few specific members based on certain criteria. Also, it would be good if those members were selected who has really contributed to the forum such as MODS, devs of epochtalk (probably just an idea), donators and other reputed guys roaming here. This shouldn't be handed over based on so called merit criteria since not all top merit receivers know about collectibles and their uniqueness actually.

I like the sound of this. We could have a design and print done rather quickly, and be ready to ship before the anniversary.
Your notes were always of the best quality right from the newly made 10 year Bitcoin note and the community would love to see how you bring out the note if it was for the forum anniversary.  Smiley

Until now I haven't even joined any of the many giveaways because I don't want to dox myself, but I might have to reconsider for this anniversary edition.
You could trust collectors like MJ, they are a lot more trustworthy than any one here and would help in even reshipping them to your address. I guess MJ has a separate warehouse (The Mantis warehouse) for his collections.  Shocked

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Come to think of it maybe a contest would be good idea too.

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Never mind Silver.

It seems only proper that any limited offering be minted on, at least 99%+ Au.

Bitcoin is ultimately looking to supplant Au.

It's poetic.

... personally, I would wish for Platinum, but recognize reality being what it is.
So much this.


Also, is this moving forward?
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Never mind Silver.

It seems only proper that any limited offering be minted on, at least 99%+ Au.

Bitcoin is ultimately looking to supplant Au.

It's poetic.

... personally, I would wish for Platinum, but recognize reality being what it is.

I think we could go a bit further down the poetic rabbit hole.  I think theymos should load them with 10BTC each and give them to all staff members (as of this date in case I get booted from being staff some time in the future!), 2 should be given to the P&S mod, because reasons.  Grin

Joking aside, it would be cool to have a little prize pool for a design competition, have a small BTC payment for the winner and smaller payment for X number of "honourable mentions".  I don't think the prize has to be big at all but something would be cool.
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March 18, 2019, 01:43:43 PM
#121

What about a bitcointalk edition from this maker
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116928.0
Same system to distribute.

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#122

What about a bitcointalk edition from this maker
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116928.0
Same system to distribute.

EDIT
BTC loaded from user.

I love those coins, but frankly speaking as someone new to crypto sometimes it becomes little tricky with buying other crypto sending it across for loading and all. I have been buying lot of collectibles recently but this one threw me off in terms of what needs to be done., I would prefer, the designer/creator of the coin should charge 1 flat fee that prob includes loading, minting, etc, etc. basically an all inclusive price.

Well going back to the new coin I suggested this, and looks like lot of people liked the idea, I think it's a matter of staff members from forum to make the decision and get the ball rolling with whatever tweaks they wanna make to the suggestion below

We all know of some really experienced collectors and some amazing designers here, by pointing out who should design vs who should not is just not fair among designers.

My suggestion:
1. Create a small group of 10-15 EXPERIENCED and KNOWLEDGEABLE collectors as judges
2. All designers submit their designs to them.
3. After review they can choose whatever number of designs(maybe around 3-5) they choose and create the polls along with/without the prices for the community to choose the final design.
4. For distribution - that's little bit tricky and don't have any idea how to do that, i am sure one of the senior members can chime in new creative idea or probably some way that was used in one of the earlier auctions or sales.


After all this is a community anniversary coin that we are talking about and we should let community choose.




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Definitly eying this thread to see what will happen.
Even though competitions are often frustrating for many participants (only one gets chosen, so a lot of good work is often wasted), I'd personally love to see this happen.

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March 26, 2019, 02:06:45 PM
#124

Never mind Silver.

It seems only proper that any limited offering be minted on, at least 99%+ Au.

Bitcoin is ultimately looking to supplant Au.

It's poetic.

... personally, I would wish for Platinum, but recognize reality being what it is.

I think we could go a bit further down the poetic rabbit hole.  I think theymos should load them with 10BTC each and give them to all staff members (as of this date in case I get booted from being staff some time in the future!), 2 should be given to the P&S mod, because reasons.  Grin

I was thinking a special Staff coin would be cool and a nice gesture  Cheesy.

Maybe one for the top ten merited users also:



Totally not biased or anything.

I haven't read through all this thread yet so I don't know what's been suggested, but maybe a good idea would be to hold some sort of charity raffle for them. That could generate a lot of money and at least go to some good causes.

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March 26, 2019, 02:16:20 PM
#125

Never mind Silver.

It seems only proper that any limited offering be minted on, at least 99%+ Au.

Bitcoin is ultimately looking to supplant Au.

It's poetic.

... personally, I would wish for Platinum, but recognize reality being what it is.

I think we could go a bit further down the poetic rabbit hole.  I think theymos should load them with 10BTC each and give them to all staff members (as of this date in case I get booted from being staff some time in the future!), 2 should be given to the P&S mod, because reasons.  Grin

I was thinking a special Staff coin would be cool and a nice gesture  Cheesy.

Maybe one for the top ten merited users also:



Totally not biased or anything.

I haven't read through all this thread yet so I don't know what's been suggested, but maybe a good idea would be to hold some sort of charity raffle for them. That could generate a lot of money and at least go to some good causes.

Why not just pull stats for all metrics and have a top-10 coin for each one?

Could pull from bpip.org

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March 26, 2019, 02:27:03 PM
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Or the most trusted  Wink   www.bpip.org




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March 26, 2019, 02:39:36 PM
#127

Where is the biggest ego list?


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March 26, 2019, 02:50:56 PM
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Or the most trusted  Wink   www.bpip.org





Nah, I'm not on this one.

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March 26, 2019, 02:53:20 PM
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Why can't we just get a nice coin with zero profits for maker, just paying the manufacturing and expenses in group.  That way we can get a nice silver coin for a bit over it's weight price. Could have somewhat added for design, can't make an opinion.

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March 26, 2019, 03:17:36 PM
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Oh man, i am not on either of the list, gotta work my way up there soon..

Jokes apart, i think there are lot of good suggestions, maybe have a group of top merits and trust people get together and make a decision to get this rolling.

Can wait to see the coin that comes out of all these decisions.

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March 26, 2019, 03:28:18 PM
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I say...let everyone be able to buy one at a reasonable cost. I wouldnt mind paying at all. Be fair to let everyone be able to get one and not just a select few. Cheers Cheesy

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March 26, 2019, 03:30:06 PM
#132

Maybe one for the top ten merited users also
I've always said you were the smartest mod.

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March 26, 2019, 03:38:33 PM
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Need to build a decision tree here, for starters.

If this is a coin to celebrate "big names", then proceed to path A.

If this is a coin for all Bitcoin Talk members to participate in, then proceed to path B.


The reason we're seeing so many wildly different suggestions is because there's no clear direction from OP.
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