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February 17, 2019, 06:18:59 PM
Last edit: February 17, 2019, 08:29:26 PM by Coolcryptovator
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Recent activity of SteveStake look like encourage spam on the forum (IMO). I had noticed it two weeks ago. However, never mind what is the pay rate, it's depend on them and I don't want to talk about it. I just want to mention how they are encouraging spam. FYI, I had not bothered to apply or I have no problem with them. My intention isn't to tag them or stop them.

I have bothered open this thread because to they have opened another campaign although there is a running campaign and look like they are inviting spammer. Below is their 2 thread;
1. Stake.com - A signature campaign for everyone! Earn up to 0.1 BTC weekly   (Archived)
2. Stake.com Signature Campaign - Up to 0.035 BTC a week   (Archived)

I will quote below those point is encouraging spammer. (Both signature campaign is running)
Old thread:
After you have made 25 posts you will be paid .0001 BTC per post (caps at 200 posts weekly)
I think this is the one reason of encourage spam. There should be limit of maximum post like 50 or 100. Is it very easy to make 200 post ? Can we expect quality good post if someone made 200 post ?

This campaign is aimed towards Legendary/Hero members, adding Sr and Full is just a small addition. If you don't like the price simply don't join. There's no need to put spam between other people's applications and spread false information confusing people.

So why need encourage spam?
Sr. + Full Members - .0001 BTC per 5 posts
Must make 25 posts minimum per week

On new thread:
20+ characters per post
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Constructive posts only (no spamming)
What constructive post he is expecting within 20 words ?

This campaign will promote organic conversations that you actually want to be part of and allow you to effortlessly accumulate high post counts
Look at the bold part, accumulate high post count, he don't need accumulate quality post count.


Anyone who tries to take advantage and spam will be removed and not paid for the week. The main goal of this campaign is to bring more freedom to the people who join by giving them the chance to create higher quality posts through organic conversations in topics they're genuinely interested in.

Answer given by Darkstar, so I don't want to repeat.

I guarantee you that you're only bringing freedom to those who want to be paid for spam, and not get close to creating higher quality posts. Take this guy for example, and basically any ANN thread in the gambling section. It's infuriating how basically no one wearing a Stake signature reads the thread before responding.

They had not uploaded participant list/spreadsheet yet, so we can't check their posting quality.

Most likely SteveStake forgot about merit system where most of managers are requiring even 5 earned merit (especially for btc signature).

Do you think he is doing right? What is your opinion ? Do you think they should reconsider their requirement?

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February 17, 2019, 07:05:43 PM
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I was actually considering posting something similar.

Big up for doing it.

I guess it is still a bit soon, and we will need to see what the BM considers a constructive post or not.

You are relating the 20 chars & constructive posts as if 20 chars was the max and not he min. You should change your reasoning. It is perfectly possible to be beneficial to a debate or a question by giving a short answer, even if it is unlikely.

My personal opinion is that this will go south very fast.

Edit: They don't have to change their opinion, they just have to thoroughly check the posts. I am not saying that I trust them to do it tho.
They should just increase the payment/post and limit the max post being paid and only accept member that generally post a lot, or just offer a fixed amount/week, with a min posting while chosing big posters.

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February 17, 2019, 07:08:08 PM
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Some examples of the high quality posting brought to you by the Stake campaign:

More gems:

I don't know if the website issues has been resolved as last that I tried to longin into my account is going?  I have also seeing the signature campaign suspended I hope all is well.
You'll know that by simply accessing their website, and until now it still showed the "404 Not Found"
That simply mean that the site is literally gone and don't expect they'll be back again soon, and if ever they'll comeback, it will be hard for them to gain back the confidence of the gamblers.
So sad to hear that.  Those people who still have funds in that gambling site is unlucky because they did not withdraw their money before the gambling gone. But maybe those people who still have funds in the wallet of everybet.io will waiting to comeback again because they need their money they still have hope for them.

They shut down about 3 weeks before that post and returned all funds to customers by contacting them via various communication channels. Getting all of your funds is hardly "unlucky".

I do rather like to invest my Money in a Bitcoin Gambling site rather than putting my money on a Casino.
The reason is that , some Casino dont provide instant support to their users comparing to Gambling sites. Casinos have plenty of complicated games which make it hard for a Gambler to understand and gamble.
Moreover there are a lot of other trusted Casinos in the market. Why we will choose the following Casino?

Casinos are more complicated than Bitcoin Gambling sites apparently

I think it will be very hard to win on this game, From now I cannot see any lucky winners yet.

Such quality much wow (but hey, it exceeds the 20 character requirement!)

https://www.instagram.com/bigluckyplays/

I like to play for high payouts, let's see if I can continue. More deposits coming soon.

These ones are from Primedice: https://imgur.com/a/IGJG8dw
A very good site that has been active and legit for many years. Stake.com is also good, It is easy to earn there and favorite game is  bitcoin mines,

A very good high quality and constructive post

Went through the casino. You've added most of the games that easily attract the attention of gamblers. In the cryptocurrency community every week new bitcoin accepted casinos were coming into existence. Saw about the campaign in the casino, but more than that a campaign in bitcointalk.org will let you get more users.

High quality post where he states some "facts" and then asks for a signature campaign so he can spam there and possibly earn more

In the list I only kbow sportbet.io because I already tried to play to thar sportd betting and I already and Im still playing. I try to make a research to the list so I can play also in the future if I want to play to other. I play in different gambling site. I hope my other sports betting that I know will be listed in the next update.  It is helpful to know where the player can play because of this.

Anyone want to explain what this means?



Seriously, do your job and stop letting spammers join.



edit: Even worse, you don't have a public list of participants so I can't verify whether you're actually paying the spammers, or check the other participants. Quotes above were from my own experiences browsing the Gambling section and I put basically zero effort in finding them.

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Funny i just checked today myself for the first time signatur campaigns and realised that no accounts with negative trust are being accepted anymore.
So you can say DT members who are abusing their power or giving false rating on purpose are instantly destroying the possibility to earn some BTC using these signatures.
Seeing also the biggest DT supporters their hunting for these signatures made me laugh.

You destroy legit accounts which created a lot of good content in the past and are getting flooded now with newbie accounts.
Soon there will be no more high ranked accounts without red taggs.

Also the rule if somebody receives a red tagg from a DT member won't get paid is the biggest joke.
Is a DT member playing BOSS deciding who will get paid and who not ?
I think these campaign managers are a little bit to much brain damaged by these DT abusers how else could you explain enforcing such nonsense.

I sent out of interrest some PM's asking if false negative trust is an issue.Will love to see their replies.


Its really funny the people who are yelling the loudest about signature being the biggest shit on this forum are all wearing these nice signatures which is mainly promoting hazard.... which btw is in most countries ilegal (even promoting it).

And since its ilegal am asking myself where are here our honorable DT members protecting our community from scams which are by law ilegal ?

 
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February 17, 2019, 08:09:29 PM
Last edit: February 17, 2019, 08:27:54 PM by Coolcryptovator
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Its really funny the people who are yelling the loudest about signature being the biggest shit on this forum are all wearing these nice signatures which is mainly promoting hazard.... which btw is in most countries ilegal (even promoting it).

And since its ilegal am asking myself where are here our honorable DT members protecting our community from scams which are by law ilegal ?
Bitcoin is illegal most of country, so we need to stop promoting Bitcoin ? Should we leave this Bitcoin related forum? Did you?


I sent out of interrest some PM's asking if false negative trust is an issue.Will love to see their replies.
No one tagged him yet. My intention isn't tag him, my intention is discourage spam.

Soon there will be no more high ranked accounts without red taggs.
I don't think so.


Is a DT member playing BOSS deciding who will get paid and who not ?
Are DT members deciding who will accept or reject ?

where in western countries is bitcoin ilegal ?
If you make stupid claims at least try to justify them
Is Bitcoin created for only western country ? Has Satoshi Nakamoto told you that Bitcoin created only for western country?  Don't ask stupid questions.

The funny thing about him, no DT member says a thing about his fucked up English and his claims. Probably because DOUBLE STANDARD is all over this place unfortunately. Nothing against him personally as I have never dealt with him nor I had any conversation with him, just stating the fact.
Never mind, red always against DT members.

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February 17, 2019, 08:42:07 PM
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The funny thing about him, no DT member says a thing about his fucked up English and his claims. Probably because DOUBLE STANDARD is all over this place unfortunately. Nothing against him personally as I have never dealt with him nor I had any conversation with him, just stating the fact.

So we should start tagging people because they didn't have the chance to be taught english early on, or simply because they have poor knowledge/are stupid?

Seems a bit extreme.

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February 17, 2019, 10:26:35 PM
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isn't this what most campaigns do? they all have the word "quality" there and most of them don't seem to follow through. a single test would be counting merit for those people wearing signatures, i am pretty sure the majority of them don't even have a rate of 1 to 10 merit to post ratio, they all seem to post the same shit everyday and since they still get paid, why should they bother?

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The funny thing about him, no DT member says a thing about his fucked up English and his claims. Probably because DOUBLE STANDARD is all over this place unfortunately. Nothing against him personally as I have never dealt with him nor I had any conversation with him, just stating the fact.

So we should start tagging people because they didn't have the chance to be taught english early on, or simply because they have poor knowledge/are stupid?

Seems a bit extreme.

 I don't think anyone has been punished around here for not knowing English. Users from non English speaking backgrounds are punished for joining signature campaigns and posting outside of their means. If they cannot make a post(constructive) that makes sense and is on topic in the English boards, then they need to stay in their local boards until they learn the language better. I'm just giving reasons as to why users may get a red tag if English is not a language they know well, not anything about you.



Do you think he is doing right? What is your opinion ? Do you think they should reconsider their requirement?

I was wondering if a thread about this Campaign would be made. As long as this manager keeps an eye on the participants and is strict about the posts, things should be fine. Obviously by seeing the post by Darkstar we can see that users are posting some trash, but we do not know if they are being paid for that trash yet.

We will be able to tell a lot more when we see who is paid and what rate they earn as to whether this Steve guy is doing a good job.

Now more to the point of your questions. Do I think he is doing right? No, I think users will post like crazy to make the campaign worth their time. I think he is tempting users to get banned for spam. I think it's a very bad move on the part of Stake, but that's just my opinion. We, the community has 0 say in what they offer participants as far as payrate goes. That's between the manager and the site they are advertising.(Even if it's an owner of the site on a new account)

You gotta remember a site's main objective is to attract players. They want as many people in the bitcoin world as possible seeing their Advertisement. They could care less who get's banned or whatnot. They want the most bang for their buck. Can you blame them? I understand their stance as well, they just need to come up with a payment option that can best achieve what they want while not making the community go nuts.

We the community do have a choice as to whether or not apply for the campaign. So, if some campaign like this pops up, users should just not join or not fall for temptation. You either can deal with the low rate offered and move on, or join and take your chances at getting banned by spamming. Why risk it? Seems to me the choice should be do not join, and show the company you would rather support the community then make a few dollars and risk being tossed from the community.

I have no issues with Stake or any other site, Just my opinions


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February 18, 2019, 04:06:28 AM
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Seems they are going to change few rules as we discussed here and their thread. Just now noticed from their campaign thread. I will take it positively at least they understand that their few rules should be reconsider, that was the reason why I have opened this thread. My intention isn't harass someone, we just need reduce spam from forum. Let's wait what changes they are going to do.


Thanks everyone for taking an interest in the campaign and giving your input on the thread and through pm. I wasn't expecting this campaign to become so massive in just a few days so some changes may be in order to account for its popularity. I will be making a few edits to the campaign based on input from the community such as lowering the amount of posts for the gambling section bonus and raising the character count per post. Edits will be made after the first payout because I don't believe it's fair to suddenly go back on an offer people have already accepted and started working on. I would also like to point out the average gained post count for all people in this campaign is between 9 and 10 after 3 days and this is including the posts of people who have already been kicked from the campaign.

However I will keep open this thread for further discussion.

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I've sent Stunna a PM, asking to check this thread.

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Seems they are going to change few rules as we discussed here and their thread. Just now noticed from their campaign thread. I will take it positively at least they understand that their few rules should be reconsider, that was the reason why I have opened this thread. My intention isn't harass someone, we just need reduce spam from forum. Let's wait what changes they are going to do.


Thanks everyone for taking an interest in the campaign and giving your input on the thread and through pm. I wasn't expecting this campaign to become so massive in just a few days so some changes may be in order to account for its popularity. I will be making a few edits to the campaign based on input from the community such as lowering the amount of posts for the gambling section bonus and raising the character count per post. Edits will be made after the first payout because I don't believe it's fair to suddenly go back on an offer people have already accepted and started working on. I would also like to point out the average gained post count for all people in this campaign is between 9 and 10 after 3 days and this is including the posts of people who have already been kicked from the campaign.

However I will keep open this thread for further discussion.



What about promoting harzard to underaged people ?Why don't you need to reduce that too ?


Oh just saw your signatur.Now i know why you don't feel that need

 
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I've sent Stunna a PM, asking to check this thread.

I forwarded this to Steve and the rest of the Stake team. Obviously there are some valid points highlighted here, there is no doubt that this is creating a huge amount of spam. Hopefully they can make some changes that the community finds agreeable.

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They had not uploaded participant list/spreadsheet yet, so we can't check their posting quality.

Most likely SteveStake forgot about merit system where most of managers are requiring even 5 earned merit (especially for btc signature).

Do you think he is doing right? What is your opinion ? Do you think they should reconsider their requirement?

Actually the first campaign have spreadsheet so we can see how some users behave when they have the opportunity to post up to 200 posts per week. Most is still below the limit of 50 post per week, but few users post more then 100 post, and one is commend by campaign manager for reaching post cap of 200 posts.

I think they are not doing right this campaign, some basic rules are ignored and many participants have no minimum predisposition to participate in any signature campaign.




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What about promoting harzard to underaged people ?Why don't you need to reduce that too ?
You should stop promoting cryptocurrency. It's related to illicit activity and you are promoting such a terrible, terrible thing to underage children. How immoral of you Sad
I forwarded this to Steve and the rest of the Stake team. Obviously there are some valid points highlighted here, there is no doubt that this is creating a huge amount of spam. Hopefully they can make some changes that the community finds agreeable.
Brilliant. Actual campaign managers that care about rooting out spam will make the forum a better place.

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Honestly i think its not possible to have enough traffic in website by just increasing particapators or post only. Quality post and creative poster make a great impression on visitors mind. That's why its better to highlght quality post rather than shitpost. As an example you can see the original scenario of ChipMixer Signature Campaign and web traffic


You can see here on the pic that 58.3% traffic drived from bitcointalk but stake.com haven't got the visibility of bitcointalk traffic yet. Now you can compare it with ChipMixer partipants and IMO obviously they are high quality poster. For that reason they got the high amount of traffic from bitcointalk.

It is to notify that every participator of ChipMixer is high merit earner. So i think its clear to everyone that you will not get traffic if you accept spammer on signature campaign.
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actually crypto is legal in switzerland and the place where i live.
So you should stay away from this forum and just trash all your crypto funds if you have any,be a good citizen bro. Grin

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Kind of disappointing that they seem to be relying on the community to do their job for them. From Telegram:

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- No spamming in Tg
- Report members of this group to us who are hurting the campaign because the better group we form the longer this campaign lasts. Examples include spamming and breaking Bitcointalk rules

@zerosumedge is also managing this group so listen to his requests

All reports, questions and inquiries can be sent to @StephenStake in a direct message (you can use the group chat for questions/messages just don't make it spammy)

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@Stake - You should figure out that not all posts are the same. Those that get viewed are infinitely times more valuable than the 200th+ post answering a simple question which are only read by spammers looking to paraphrase for their own post spam.

(each word links to an exceptional high quality post by a Stake campaign member that will surely be read many times)

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Kind of disappointing that they seem to be relying on the community to do their job for them. From Telegram:

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Rules
- No spamming on Bitcointalk
- No spamming in Tg
- Report members of this group to us who are hurting the campaign because the better group we form the longer this campaign lasts. Examples include spamming and breaking Bitcointalk rules

@zerosumedge is also managing this group so listen to his requests

All reports, questions and inquiries can be sent to @StephenStake in a direct message (you can use the group chat for questions/messages just don't make it spammy)

(source)
I wouldn't say that asking for reports is mutually exclusive to handling of campaign spam by the manager. Given that the campaign is set to take in a large number of users (from what I assume, since there are yet to be actual numbers on the member list), any kind of help should be welcomed.

What I don't like is the "earn up to 0.1 BTC weekly" part of this campaign. That's a minimum of 990 posts that they'll accept (weekly) and a maximum of 4950 posts.

There is no way a normal person can create that many constructive posts.

Assuming 9 hours of sleep and 15 hours of posting (every single day, without break) that corresponds to one post every 6.4 minutes at the Legendary rank. Or, one post every 1.3 minutes (76 seconds) at Jr. Member rank.

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Honestly i think its not possible to have enough traffic in website by just increasing particapators or post only. Quality post and creative poster make a great impression on visitors mind. That's why its better to highlght quality post rather than shitpost. As an example you can see the original scenario of ChipMixer Signature Campaign and web traffic


You can see here on the pic that 58.3% traffic drived from bitcointalk but stake.com haven't got the visibility of bitcointalk traffic yet. Now you can compare it with ChipMixer partipants and IMO obviously they are high quality poster. For that reason they got the high amount of traffic from bitcointalk.

It is to notify that every participator of ChipMixer is high merit earner. So i think its clear to everyone that you will not get traffic if you accept spammer on signature campaign.


Its a numbers game.Quantity will always beat at some stage quality.
If somebody replaces 1 quality posts with 50 shitty posts the quality post will definetly lose that battle.
Legendary/Hero get higher click through rates no question asked but not that they will be able to compete against 10+ shitty posts from regular accounts.

 
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February 18, 2019, 05:38:09 PM
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Its a numbers game.Quantity will always beat at some stage quality.
If somebody replaces 1 quality posts with 50 shitty posts the quality post will definetly lose that battle.
Legendary/Hero get higher click through rates no question asked but not that they will be able to compete against 10+ shitty posts from regular accounts.
You say this, but do you know where those shitty posts end up in? Sections that nobody reads. Well, nobody except for other fellow shitposters. And they're too busy shitposting to pay attention to the ads. Oops.

Consider: what is the likelihood of a signature ad reaching users that will actually click in the Altcoin section, or one of the Economics megathreads?

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Its a numbers game.Quantity will always beat at some stage quality.
If somebody replaces 1 quality posts with 50 shitty posts the quality post will definetly lose that battle.
Legendary/Hero get higher click through rates no question asked but not that they will be able to compete against 10+ shitty posts from regular accounts.
You say this, but do you know where those shitty posts end up in? Sections that nobody reads. Well, nobody except for other fellow shitposters. And they're too busy shitposting to pay attention to the ads. Oops.

Consider: what is the likelihood of a signature ad reaching users that will actually click in the Altcoin section, or one of the Economics megathreads?

Main target are noobs so they will reach them anyway no matter which section.Wouldn't they target noobs they wouldn't use legendaries reputation to increase their own credibility.

 
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Main target are noobs so they will reach them anyway no matter which section.
Even new users to Bitcoin won't scour through the scores of shitty posts that permeate throughout the many Bitcoin Discussion and Economics threads. And I assume most new users would enter those nice-sounding board names... to subsequently exit after they see the nonsense that's spouted by "high-ranking" forum members.

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Assuming 9 hours of sleep and 15 hours of posting (every single day, without break) that corresponds to one post every 6.4 minutes at the Legendary rank. Or, one post every 1.3 minutes (76 seconds) at Jr. Member rank.
Maybe Maggiordomo can join Cheesy

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I believed this can be consider as stake.com sig spammer. Deadline is near they have to add some efforts to increase their post counts.

http://archive.is/tpwPi 

Issue: Post time interval

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I believed this can be consider as stake.com sig spammer. Deadline is near they have to add some efforts to increase their post counts.

http://archive.is/tpwPi 

Issue: Post time interval
This is what happens when you skip hiring real managers such as Hhampuz or Yahoo, but what do I know. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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I believed this can be consider as stake.com sig spammer. Deadline is near they have to add some efforts to increase their post counts.

http://archive.is/tpwPi 

Issue: Post time interval


Here's 27 posts from a Stake signature spammer in the short span of 35 minutes

https://archive.is/qQbPg

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probably the fastest 2$ he has ever earned.


seven2smoke1  suddenly became very intersted in gambling with 10 posts a day ( previous posts show that he is not active there) but thanks to the .001 BTC bonus. Grin

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February 21, 2019, 11:47:27 AM
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This is what happens when you skip hiring real managers such as Hhampuz or Yahoo, but what do I know. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This is true, but if you hire experienced managers then signature campaign must have rules that have been introduced in all sig campaigns. Rules are simple, but stake.com is for some reason allow posting in all boards (who and how check posts in local boards?), without a clear determination what is spam or not, and to all users (DT red tag excluded), but completely ignoring the merit system.

I am sure you, Hhampuz or Yahoo would never agree to run a campaign under these rules.


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I believed this can be consider as stake.com sig spammer. Deadline is near they have to add some efforts to increase their post counts.

http://archive.is/tpwPi 

Issue: Post time interval


Here's 27 posts from a Stake signature spammer in the short span of 35 minutes

https://archive.is/qQbPg

1st week recently ended and this guy won 1st prize of 100$ in contest that was added to the campaign. I have asked Steve to check the posts again.

There are some who posted more than 100 posts and one even posted 180 posts during the 1st week.

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Hello everyone, I respect the opinion of all, they are really people who have a lot of experience, I am in the process of applying the stake signature, I have noticed that most of the people that live in the stake have a high IQ, they administer information in all areas and, in fact, they are very kind people and some of the content that they publish in the forum are of high quality, it has helped me because there are many investors, I see their points of view on how they think and how they act. And the importance of everything is that we are many people who want to continue growing in this prestigious forum and Mr. Steve is providing opportunities to very valuable people. This is my humble opinion.
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Hello everyone, I respect the opinion of all -nip- And the importance of everything is that we are many people who want to continue growing in this prestigious forum and Mr. Steve is providing opportunities to very valuable people. This is my humble opinion.
I don't understand why you needed to write so much to convey so little. Regardless of your English ability, it should be easy to cut down on irrelevancy and redundancy.
(and I see nothing about confronting spam at all, only "stake is a campaign that allows members to earn bitcoin")

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February 21, 2019, 08:28:09 PM
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I don't understand why you needed to write so much to convey so little.
LUCKMCFLY went from 40 posts in 15 days to 40 posts in 3 days since he joined that campaign. That says it all.

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Hello everyone, I respect the opinion of all -nip- And the importance of everything is that we are many people who want to continue growing in this prestigious forum and Mr. Steve is providing opportunities to very valuable people. This is my humble opinion.
I don't understand why you needed to write so much to convey so little. Regardless of your English ability, it should be easy to cut down on irrelevancy and redundancy.
(and I see nothing about confronting spam at all, only "stake is a campaign that allows members to earn bitcoin")
I'm sorry, but by stating that there are high quality publications made by most users, I am very emphatic to show that there is no spam, except that in any ecosystem there are people of all types, and those who do spam,
will are at risk of be expelled from the campaign, as it is written in the OP. Also, every day, I work to improve my English, it is not necessary to try to humiliate my lack of capacity.
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February 21, 2019, 08:35:55 PM
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It is evident that you are using a thesaurus. If you had learned the meaning of those words, you would not use them in such a way. Please do not attempt to use language of which you have little understanding.

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I don't understand why you needed to write so much to convey so little.
LUCKMCFLY went from 40 posts in 15 days to 40 posts in 3 days since he joined that campaign. That says it all.
Thank you very much, but the truth is that I have not been selected yet, and I have the signature and the Avatar because I am an aspiring participant, and well I like the avatar, but check my publications, I think I have been contributing what little I know.
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February 21, 2019, 11:05:23 PM
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Thank you very much, but the truth is that I have not been selected yet

so 40 posts in 3 days is warming up?

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Their new requirements are twice as strict  Shocked

  • 40+ characters per post

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Their new requirements are twice as strict  Shocked

  • 40+ characters per post
Only if that changed a thing. Cunts here will start writing posts with two keyboards to fill that criterion. This is really easy you see, the reward is great but just needs an additional rule to weed out the shit-posters - Minimum of 100 merits achieved to join the campaign.

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What I had noticed is Stake.com - A signature campaign for everyone! Earn up to 0.1 BTC weekly don't even have a public spreadhseet of accepted participants and I think they were maintaining that in their telegram or discord channel so is it okay to deal with outside of the forum about the accepted participants?

If yes then we may going to hear more stories like below when they are started spamming Roll Eyes
Thank you very much, but the truth is that I have not been selected yet, and I have the signature and the Avatar because I am an aspiring participant, and well I like the avatar, but check my publications, I think I have been contributing what little I know.

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What I had noticed is Stake.com - A signature campaign for everyone! Earn up to 0.1 BTC weekly don't even have a public spreadhseet of accepted participants and I think they were maintaining that in their telegram or discord channel so is it okay to deal with outside of the forum about the accepted participants?
It should be fine to do that but I wonder how do the participants get to know if they have been accepted or how much posts have been counted and stuff? I public sheet is much better than a telegram channel.
I personally find it very shady if someone wants to hide information as insensitive as this behind a telegram channel.

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February 23, 2019, 05:12:49 AM
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What I had noticed is Stake.com - A signature campaign for everyone! Earn up to 0.1 BTC weekly don't even have a public spreadhseet of accepted participants and I think they were maintaining that in their telegram or discord channel so is it okay to deal with outside of the forum about the accepted participants?



They have this sheet from the other campaign. It is possible to see that  Caladonian made 109 posts and received 0.0184BTC.

Stake has also some topics on Local Boards. Stake.com Muita Diversão e Lucros em Um Só Lugar!
Primedice - Nº 1 Site de Apostas com BTC! 21 bilhões de Bets, 112+ BTC Jackpot!

@Adriano, who is the moderator of the Portuguese section, have alerted them that this kind of marketing was not so effective.It is just one person posting alone, there isn't any conversation or anything.

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it's getting unreal if you usually visit the gambling section , I made a post in sportsbet thread about getting limited and waiting for their support to answer me I got 5 replies with stake signatures and all of them just making guesses about the problem

it looks like they are racing to make posts in the gambling section , even stake thread is full of spam now with their participants talking about V2 without even giving any valid info about what's coming with V2
I usually check the thread just to see if Stake is announcing the launch of the sportsbook but all I find is spam

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February 25, 2019, 01:01:11 AM
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Primedice's thread has turned into wall observer thread.
Wherever I click I see Stake. This reminds me of "good old" yobit signature days and 20 posts/day  Roll Eyes

Can someone tell me what does this mean:

If you are choosing between the waves and ethereum classic. You will better to choose waves remember ethereum is different to ethereum classic.so for me waves coin is the better to choose compared to ETC that is my opinion and I think it is right base to my research.
I'll give 2 merits to first member (without Stake's signature  Smiley) who deciphers this.

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February 25, 2019, 02:04:55 AM
Last edit: February 25, 2019, 03:02:22 AM by actmyname
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If you are choosing between the waves and ethereum classic. You will better to choose waves remember ethereum is different to ethereum classic.so for me waves coin is the better to choose compared to ETC that is my opinion and I think it is right base to my research.
I'll give 2 merits to first member (without Stake's signature  Smiley) who deciphers this.
The choice between Waves and Ethereum Classic boils down to this:

Ethereum is different to Ethereum Classic.
Therefore, Waves is the superior choice.

We have

Code:
foo(firstCoin, secondCoin) {
    if (firstCoin != "Ethereum") return secondCoin;
}

foo("Ethereum Classic", "Waves")

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February 25, 2019, 04:23:47 AM
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If you are choosing between the waves and ethereum classic. You will better to choose waves remember ethereum is different to ethereum classic.so for me waves coin is the better to choose compared to ETC that is my opinion and I think it is right base to my research.
I'll give 2 merits to first member (without Stake's signature  Smiley) who deciphers this.
He exactly want to mean that if someone want to choose between waves and ETC then he should choose waves. ETC is not Ethereum means, ETC is a fork of Ethereum. And I am agree with his statement as well. I am not sure if you know that ETC developers was stopped work on last December due to financial problems. So we can say dev team isn't strong of ETC, although ETC team changed developers. But this kind of announcement would break investors trust. So over all we can say waves is better then ETC. And for clear confusion, ETC is not ETH. Both platform is different.

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February 25, 2019, 07:52:14 AM
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What I had noticed is Stake.com - A signature campaign for everyone! Earn up to 0.1 BTC weekly don't even have a public spreadhseet of accepted participants and I think they were maintaining that in their telegram or discord channel so is it okay to deal with outside of the forum about the accepted participants?

If yes then we may going to hear more stories like below when they are started spamming Roll Eyes
Thank you very much, but the truth is that I have not been selected yet, and I have the signature and the Avatar because I am an aspiring participant, and well I like the avatar, but check my publications, I think I have been contributing what little I know.

If a campaign don't have any spreadsheet at public,when the participants found spamming they can easily defend that they kicked out that person or even didn't accept them.

I think we need to force the campaign manager to provide a public spreadsheet.

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February 25, 2019, 09:02:28 AM
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If you are choosing between the waves and ethereum classic. You will better to choose waves remember ethereum is different to ethereum classic.so for me waves coin is the better to choose compared to ETC that is my opinion and I think it is right base to my research.
I'll give 2 merits to first member (without Stake's signature  Smiley) who deciphers this.
Maybe this is what he meant.

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it's getting unreal if you usually visit the gambling section , I made a post in sportsbet thread about getting limited and waiting for their support to answer me I got 5 replies with stake signatures and all of them just making guesses about the problem

it looks like they are racing to make posts in the gambling section , even stake thread is full of spam now with their participants talking about V2 without even giving any valid info about what's coming with V2
I usually check the thread just to see if Stake is announcing the launch of the sportsbook but all I find is spam
3 reasons for which we're observing spam like this.
1. 0.001 BTC bonus for posting in Gambling.
2. 2x merit points in Gambling section.
3. The big one- Competition on first page replies. There is a big competition based on first page reply for which users are replying instantly after a thread being posted.

Can someone tell me what does this mean:

If you are choosing between the waves and ethereum classic. You will better to choose waves remember ethereum is different to ethereum classic.so for me waves coin is the better to choose compared to ETC that is my opinion and I think it is right base to my research.
I'll give 2 merits to first member (without Stake's signature  Smiley) who deciphers this.
It means Campaign Manager isn't professional  Cheesy
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February 26, 2019, 01:52:50 PM
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here another thread with 9 comments so far , literally all of them with stake signatures
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111649.0

it's funny how they are discussing one of the most popular gambling sites in the market (Betonline) and most of them don't even know that site but yet they are giving their opinions (and guesses )  about it

it explains a lot how most of stake participants are discussing gambling stuffs without even having experience just because there is a bonus for the gambling section

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here another thread with 9 comments so far , literally all of them with stake signatures
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111649.0

it's funny how they are discussing one of the most popular gambling sites in the market (Betonline) and most of them don't even know that site but yet they are giving their opinions (and guesses )  about it

it explains a lot how most of stake participants are discussing gambling stuffs without even having experience just because there is a bonus for the gambling section
14/16 replies now Stake.com owned


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Today's challenge;

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Today's challenge;

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Ohh God,Thats mission impossible. Cheesy


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Today's challenge;

Find 10 consecutive posts with no stake signature in the gambling section
Ohh God,Thats mission impossible. Cheesy

Just find my posts  Tongue

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Just find my posts  Tongue

Still not possible to find 10 consecutive posts in any thread without stake signature,not only in gambling section they invaded all the sections of Bitcointalk. Shocked


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February 27, 2019, 06:35:09 AM
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Just find my posts  Tongue

Still not possible to find 10 consecutive posts in any thread without stake signature,not only in gambling section they invaded all the sections of Bitcointalk. Shocked



Even the boards that don't display signatures are not safe due to that ultra-annoying avatar.  I'm glad theymos is going to end the insanity. Actually, I don't mind most of the animated avatars, but something about stake.com really hurts my eyes. Angry

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February 27, 2019, 07:07:21 AM
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We had a very long lull there without many bitcoin-paying signature campaigns, and now this one pops up with apparently no quality control, and BAM....we're back to the days of Yobit and Secondstrade.  Crazy how one campaign can lead to so much forum pollution, but there you have it.

We talked about having some sort of minimum standards for campaign managers, but I think we got lulled into thinking we actually started to improve without any restrictions on campaigns--sadly I don't think that's the case.  Imagine if there were multiple campaigns like this running simultaneously.  You know damn well every spammer in the world would have their whole families engaged in writing shitposts.  Just like the bad old days (which weren't even that long ago).

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February 27, 2019, 08:43:29 AM
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Somehow we did manage to get a thread here in reputation without much stake posts Smiley

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February 27, 2019, 11:46:37 AM
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~snip!

They (stake.com) are doing what they are allowed to do, and except this thread and few post in their signature threads I do not see that even one DT member marked manager account with red tag for as title say encouraging spam.

YoBit and BitMixer signature campaign are both running with bot, because of that it was not possible to control spam. But then Lauda is took over BitMixer and hilariousandco YoBit (if memory serves me good), and both problems were quickly and efficiently solved.

There is always a way to fix the bad things, but there is not always enough willingness to do that.

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I do not see that even one DT member marked manager account with red tag for as title say encouraging spam.
DT shouldn't tag accounts accounts for things that should be handled by Mods. That's not only spam but also plagiarism, merit abuse and ban evasion, and from what I've seen, most DT members don't tag this anymore.

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February 27, 2019, 12:19:27 PM
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Today's challenge;
Find 10 consecutive posts with no stake signature in the gambling section

Does 'Gambling discussion' count towards their bonus?

If so, I found a topic that has two consecutive pages with zero posts from stake signature related accounts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110454.120  Pages 6 and 7


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Last edit: February 27, 2019, 07:52:52 PM by coinlocket$
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I was thinking to apply there, the payout is very high my in comparison to my actual signature. (I had no luck so far to join good campaigns)

I will wait 2 weeks when I will hit hero rank and I will see.

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February 27, 2019, 07:48:06 PM
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Intention of my post was to invite them and share our thoughts to prevent spam from forum. At the beginning their response was fine. But its seems they have chosen different way to promote and spam over forum. To be honest their spammy activity increased more than before. They should think again about their promotional strategy. Everyone free to advertise here any valid site, it doesn't mean they are free to encourage spam on this forum.

I would like to suggest them reconsider about their promotional strategy and help build a decent forum. SteveStake should visit this thread once again to make a strong and quality promotion.

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February 27, 2019, 11:37:33 PM
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I was thinking to apply there, the payout is very high my in comparison to my actual signature. (I had no luck so far to join good campaigns)
Me too, I think if they adjust the campaign a little bit it can get a very good one. Adding 1 required Merit per week to get a payout or limiting the total posts per week would be fine. The spreadsheet is not public, so I don't know how many users were disqualified or not accepted.
They pay up to $100 per week to the most constructive posters and the competition isn't very high to make the first place, but I didn't see the spreadsheet yet. I'll check out their Telegram, have a look at the spreadsheet and give it a try tomorrow.

I will wait 2 weeks when I will hit hero rank and I will see.
I don't know how long they will run the campaign, they have many participants and much to pay. Most likely they won't run it very long because it could be only a temporary promotion for Stake v2.


I would like to suggest them reconsider about their promotional strategy and help build a decent forum. SteveStake should visit this thread once again to make a strong and quality promotion.
Payments per 10 posts could also be done like this: If someone is doing x posts per week, the amount paid in BTC will be lower for every 10 comments the more you post per week. First 50 comments for e.g. Member get .0003 BTC per 10 posts, the next 50 posts get .00015 BTC per 10 posts and so on...


10 - 50 posts per week:

Jr/Member - .0003 BTC per 10 posts
Full/Sr. member - .0008 BTC per 10 post
Hero/Legendary - .0012 BTC per 10 posts

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Jr/Member - .00015 BTC per 10 posts
Full/Sr. member - .0004 BTC per 10 post
Hero/Legendary - .008 BTC per 10 posts

100 - 250 posts per week:

Jr/Member - .00005 BTC per 10 posts
Full/Sr. member - .00015 BTC per 10 post
Hero/Legendary - .00025 BTC per 10 posts

More than 250 posts per week won't be paid.

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February 28, 2019, 04:59:43 AM
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(all calculations assume $4k/BTC for round numbers)

I would not have anything above 100 posts/week, and I personally find that very generous in terms of how many quality posts one can output on a weekly basis.

Unless they're dedicating serious time into the forum to churn out content consistently, it's absolutely insane to assume that the average user is able to create that many quality posts.

Moreover, if they are dedicating such a large amount of their time into it, they wouldn't do it for peanuts (exceptions being forum fanatics). If we assume an average of 10 minutes to construct a quality post, that means that they're getting about $2/hr. (for reference, it took me ~12 focused minutes to do the research and writing of this post)

I don't like to think of signature campaigns as jobs because forced posts decrease quality but this is the only way I can portray the inefficacy of the system.

Quality users won't post for $2/hr.
Shitposters won't, either. Because they can churn out dozens of posts every time they log on by scanning through random general/vague threads, creating some half-assed reply they garner from reading either the thread title or some other shitposter's reply.

Repeating what has already been said or stating some obvious (or even, wrong) conclusion about a general topic adds nothing to the thread... but it's easy to do and it's quick to do. If I were to go down this path, I imagine I could hit at least one post per minute, easy. Incoherent rambling and repetition can pad a reply so even character limits or simple guards against one-liners won't really suffice.

When I factor that amount of time into it, this can easily reach $24/hr. This is nearly double that of the highest minimum wage in the US ($13.25) and is definitely something that people in poorer cultures would love to be a part of.
    
Imagine living in an area where the cost of living for the average person each month is half of what you earn every week ($400). You would be a king with one account, never mind the multiple ones that account farmers surely have in the Stake campaign.

In fact, if you did have multiple accounts and you decided to put in the estimated ~16 hours/week per account into the campaign, you would have an income higher than that of GDP/capita United States with just three thereof. That is, 3 accounts at 50 hours/week nets you $62,400 before tax.

I'm vehemently against using accounts in this way but the reality is that it happens and for good reason: it's "easy money"... to people who don't care about the forum degradation.

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February 28, 2019, 06:28:07 AM
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Here is an announcement from stevestake which maybe happening due to this thread?
Some people will be replaced today after payouts for anyone waiting to get in

But I think they need to make adjustments in their requirements to get weekly rewards like having maximum paid post and keep the participants list in public which I am insisting for many times here.

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Nobody writes more than 100 quality posts a week -- nobody.

I admit the amount of BTC they pay is compelling but I wouldn't want to be associated with what looks to be an all-you-can spam contest.

For instance, both of these by Tamilson are just awful, I bolded the most telling parts:

I'm a coinomi user since 2017 and got no problem with that, so far. My biggest fund there was around $5k and didn't worry about hacking issue since I have a passphrase. But your story is different from mine since you imported your passphrase from exodus wallet and maybe someone had spotted this since you really have decent amount.

I'm not a techy person so I can't say anything, I just feel sorry for your money that seems no getting back.
And if there will further update what coinomi has to say please keep us posted here.

You probably didn't read my post very well. Coinomi's wallet simply takes your passphrase and spell checks it with a remote server!

Sort of since it's lengthy, lol. Well I really thought that it's exodus the importing that triggered everything, pardon me on that. So earlier, had checked those links in the OP since honestly I'm in coinomi's side ( sorry again ) but upon reading all those links I found out these are all true ( especially those reddit posts ). Maybe I trusted it too much and ain't aware those "backdoors".

I'm having my thoughts right now which wallets are safe since even a hardware wallet can be tampered upon shipping.

He's commenting gibberish over an extremely serious problem (guy lost $60k worth of coins). Then doubled down after the OP corrected him, for the sake of racking up 1 more post.

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February 28, 2019, 03:41:00 PM
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Nobody writes more than 100 quality posts a week -- nobody.

Stake.com is not expressly seeking quality posts, but has a completely different approach how signature campaign should be set up. Just read the introduction from their OP :

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Why this campaign is better than the rest

The most beneficial part of this campaign is we aren't going to limit you on where you can and can't post. Unlike in other campaigns, posts made in all sections of Bitcointalk will be counted! After looking through every signature campaign and managing one myself I've found it can be difficult for people to make high quality posts when they're limited to posting in only a few sections. This results in forced conversation and low quality posts simply because someone has to meet a required post count in a certain section. This campaign will promote organic conversations that you actually want to be part of and allow you to effortlessly accumulate high post counts.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093.0

Everything bolded is more than an invitation to spam, with total disregard for Signature Campaign Guidelines, where we can read a lot of useful things, such as this part :

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Signature Campaigns are a great way to introduce your business and advertise your services to the bitcoin ecosystem but this cannot be abused by you paying people to make poor contributions en masse. As a signature campaign operator you will ultimately be held responsible for the quality of posts of users bearing your signature advertisement and you will need to monitor your users closely or it will be quickly abused. If you are running a campaign and it becomes blatantly obvious to Staff that you are doing little to nothing to stop spam on your campaign you will be issued a PM warning by a Global Moderator that you need to make immediate improvements to curb low-quality posts. You will have 7 days to remove low-quality posters and respond to the message detailing what you are going to do to make changes to your campaign to reduce the amount of spam. If improvements are not noticeable within 21 days of that and Staff do not believe you are doing enough to prevent low quality posts your signatures will be blacklisted from the forum by an Admin and you will no longer be permitted to advertise here in such a way.

So we have some rules, and if there is no improvements in the given time, Staff has all the power to close this campaign.


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February 28, 2019, 04:12:21 PM
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They also have a merit contest with prizes. Check the last two topics for merit abuse in reputation, seems like they are going against one another:

Quintrix stake signature
wilburwilbur stake signature. Things backfired against PryptoMontreal (topic starter stake signature)who was caught handing himself merit from an alt account.

Overall, not well thought out campaign with low to zero control that encourages spam and indirectly merit abuse.

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February 28, 2019, 04:26:03 PM
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They also have a merit contest with prizes. Check the last two topics for merit abuse in reputation, seems like they are going against one another:

Quintrix stake signature
wilburwilbur stake signature. Things backfired against PryptoMontreal (topic starter stake signature)who was caught handing himself merit from an alt account.

Overall, not well thought out campaign with low to zero control that encourages spam and indirectly merit abuse.


LOL, no comment. He whined about abusers and he also abused it, shall we tag them all?  Huh

Should be fun if we can get access to the spreadsheet.

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This thread has served its purpose as far as being an avenue to discuss the Stake campaign. Further discussion IMO would only be considered signature spam as everything that can be said, pretty much already has been said.

Campaigns like this are the communities fault. The site is not to blame IMO, at least not right out of the gate. You the community have the choice whether or not to join a signature campaign. Well, you have the choice on whether to apply. Most users are looking to make a buck wearing an advertisement, and don't really care about the community or bitcointalk. They want to make money. There's no shame in that, but spitting out 100 posts in 3 days is ridiculous. You the user have the choice on what sort of community member you want to be. A douchebag spammer or a person who takes pride in being a member here.

If the community joined the campaign and did not have the intention of making the max number of weekly accepted posts, then everything would be fine. That's just not how it is though. You have multiple farmers and account buyers who fuck shit up.

I'm not a fan of tagging users for signature spam unless they are blatantly doing it for monetary gain only. This to me is the community and moderators job. We the community should use the report to moderator button and report posts you think are off topic, and moderators will ban the accounts they feel are abusing the system. If we the community
isn't reporting posts, how do we expect the moderators to help out?

At what point is the site or manager to blame?

IMO the manager or site becomes at fault once the problem has been brought to their attention, and they fail to take action.

Here is an announcement from stevestake which maybe happening due to this thread?
Some people will be replaced today after payouts for anyone waiting to get in



Here you clearly see the manager is taking action. What I do not like is the fact that we cannot see who is or who is not in the campaign. I believe that since the campaign is being run on this platform, then the community should have access to see the spreadsheet for the campaign. It should be publicly listed in the campaign thread. That's how it has always been for transparency as well as gives scam hunters a way to see who is breaking rules or cheating campaigns. Some might say that is for the manager to decide, not the community. Obviously my opinion differs.

Why is the spreadsheet not my business? What is it hurting by not being public?

I think by the spreadsheet not being public, Stake/PD (I assume both connected due to same owners/Mods) are putting themselves at risk for being tagged due to running a shady campaign. We the community can see a billion posts with the Stake sig, but we do not know if they are in the Stake campaign. So for all we know, Stake is supporting the spammers. With a public spreadsheet we can decipher who is or isn't in the campaign and tag appropriately.

It's kinda shady to keep everything hidden honestly. I can see not sharing details about the website for the public, but this is a spreadsheet about bitcointalk. Only thing people are going to see is how you manage participants in a signature campaign. Only details we see are stats about bitcointalk users.

Websites may feel this is invasive to en extent, but too bad. You choose to use the bitcointalk community as a platform to advertise, you must adhere to some of the stipulations of using this platform. I like community opinion on this question. Should a spreadsheet being public, be a mandatory requirement? Maybe we need a separate topic for this question alone?

So what do we do now?

Either tag them, or move on. Discussing it for another month is going to achieve nothing. Whether or not you can see a spreadsheet, you can still be reporting posts and letting the chips fall where they may.

This could be 100% users fault here if Steve removes all the spammers that have been accepted. We don't know who is in or who isn't either way, so reporting posts is a must at this point.

This is all i'm going to post for now

Off Topic portion of this post

Poll has been created for users to express opinions  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5115487.0



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Last edit: February 28, 2019, 10:24:12 PM by Coolcryptovator
 #71

I like community opinion on this question. Should a spreadsheet being public, be a mandatory requirement?
Should be, since signature campaign is forum related, spreadsheet should be on public. Never mind if they promote their project on other platform for advertisement like FB and Twitter bounty, that case we should not bother ourselves. But signature campaign is directly on forum and we have right to see their participant.    

Maybe we need a separate topic for this question alone?
Open separate topic with poll would be better option. Feel free to create one if you are not busy.

Either tag them, or move on. Discussing it for another month is going to achieve nothing
I am not agree to tag participant only for spam post if they are not promoting scam. But owner or manager deserve tag in my opinions since they are choosing new way to spam on forum and they keep it hidden.  

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I think a link to a public spreadsheet has just been added - here

There seems to be 3x as many people wearing their signatures and not reflected in this table, maybe someone (manager Roll Eyes) should tell them they won't be paid so no need to spew 50 posts a day.

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I think a link to a public spreadsheet has just been added - here

There seems to be 3x as many people wearing their signatures and not reflected in this table, maybe someone (manager Roll Eyes) should tell them they won't be paid so no need to spew 50 posts a day.

The spreadsheet is the first signature campaign that was made by stake.com https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5092506.0 and recently he closed the signature campaign.

This campaign is currently closed.

But for the new signature campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093.0 he hasn't include a spreadsheet.


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Anyone likes Ice cream?
My favorite flavor is cookies and cream,
And the most unusual flavor that I heard is chilli flavor but I haven't tried it yet.

This one is even better, 87 posts yesterday, mostly one liners in local board and only 1 post in gambling section, surprisingly, they are shilling hard for Stake in Stake's thread:
I definitely recommend stake.com. Why ?. Because the prime dice game is great and almost addictive. If you want to have quality and a good time, definitely visit stake.com.
This reminds me of "buy waves because ethereum is different than ethereum classic" post  Smiley

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Anyone likes Ice cream?
My favorite flavor is cookies and cream,
And the most unusual flavor that I heard is chilli flavor but I haven't tried it yet.

This one is even better, 87 posts yesterday, mostly one liners in local board and only 1 post in gambling section

Why do I not see him tagged as a signature spammer yet?

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Why do I not see him tagged as a signature spammer yet?

Maybe because it is hardly a valid reason to tag someone...

But maybe you are referring to the spreadsheet?

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I guess he's angry he got tagged as a sig spammer by Lucius for making huge amount of posts per week.

Obviously, there are much worse spammers out there and no one is tagging them (deisik you can do it yourself) for spamming i.e accounts mentioned by marlboroza.

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Why do I not see him tagged as a signature spammer yet?
Well, xvids's post technically isn't spam because it is posted in Off-Topic in thread about Ice cream  Grin

ripplecanavari on the other hand is spamming and this is spam burst:




...and should be handled by moderator.

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Why do I not see him tagged as a signature spammer yet?
Well, xvids's post technically isn't spam because it is posted in Off-Topic in thread about Ice cream  Grin

ripplecanavari on the other hand is spamming and this is spam burst:




...and should be handled by moderator.

Reporting these as well. Let's hope they get removed before payday.

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Well, I have no comment about this, a scammer opened a thread and right after the spam started I don't know how these users posting without looking Op posthistory and feedbacks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129519.new#new

http://archive.fo/NL6U5

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Well, I have no comment about this, a scammer opened a thread and right after the spam started I don't know how these users posting without looking Op posthistory and feedbacks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129519.new#new

http://archive.fo/NL6U5
The first two guys were warning anyone potentially reading the thread about the dangers of using that link/casino. The third posted what amounts to nonsense.

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How to exactly report spammer?

This person probably forget that they already posted this in "Suggest me some gambling site" thread http://archive.is/AKuvE:

You can find out the good Gambling website by searching Google itself. I think it's just such a poster here fools. You can find yourself a lot of good gambling websites. And there are many types of gambling websites on the internet. You can play gambling at the place you like. You can find out the Gambling website by watching the Gambling website's review. So I think it's better to search for myself.

Thank you

Ok, they got link, so it is better to post it again:

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Damnit, no one probably noticed this so Coin-Desk had to repeat it again:

Now, many gambling sites are available online so you can search google by yourself and find gambling sites. Still, I'm giving some top-rated gambling site links below. From here you can easily choose your favorite gambling site. From this link, you will get all the information that you need. These gambling sites offer bonuses on deposits. Select the link below with your choice.
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This is better, shilling hard for Stake:

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This reminds me of old spammers writing "bitcoin is great because bitcoin is money of the future and in future bitcoin will become bigger and that is why I like bitcoin for future"

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May 05, 2019, 04:05:00 PM
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How to exactly report spammer?

This most likely is an alt account of his : Sent 4 merits to the account for an undeserving replies the OP of that thread that ask for the suggestion isn't ok with. Also alcoholboy is spamming in the same manner with the stake signature and Thank you conclusion.

In my opinion, gambling tactics. The more tactics that can be used in gambling, the more win will be there.
Suppose you take a gamble with Bitcoin, where you win, you get double bit key.
And if you can fit the strategy here, but you can win that gambling.
So gambling is the key strategy.

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In my opinion, gambling tactics. The more tactics that can be used in gambling, the more win will be there.
Suppose you take a gamble with Bitcoin, where you win, you get double bit key.
And if you can fit the strategy here, but you can win that gambling.
So gambling is the key strategy.

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In my opinion, you cannot do the right to spend the daily expense by gambling. Because the future of gambling is always uncertain. Sometimes you will win and you can never breath yourself. So I will tell you where there is no future for you, labor is the most futile. And the daily expenses should be far away!

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Yes course, gambling is entertainment. People enjoy gambling for entertainment. Gambling is just to play for fun. But many people play gambling in earning money. But gambling is not good for earning money. Money is needed to play gambling. However, it is best to invest a little amount of money in gambling. To play gambling for entertainment, invest a small amount of money.

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Yes, I agree with you on that point Bitcoin is the chain of knowledge. Inspired by Bitcoin, all the other coins came to the market. Bitcoin basically major coins Bitcoin has started earning people through Bitcoin since coming to the market. Bitcoin is the main source of income for many. Bitcoin has created employment for many. So I will say Bitcoin is the real hero

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