Asking to ban of gambling advertisement on this forum

[Thule]

Am asking to ban hazard/gambling advertisement on this forum.

First the promoted websites have no license for major jurisdictions.
Second harzard are here also promoted to minors.
Third its a known fact that hazard destroys a lot of peoples life.
DT members claim to protect people from scams.
How does it come they don't protect people from addicts like hazard on this forum ?

Harzard is being massivly advertised on this forum via high ranked member but also from the forum itself.
You don't allow to promote anything which needs buying coins but at the same time you allow hazard.


You have also a forum rule stating that no product is being allowed to be offered or sold which is buyers or seller jurisdiction is being ilegal.
Promoting unlicenses gambling is in nearly every jurisdiction forbidden.

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[Foxpup]

Merely out of curiosity, is there some reason you're using the word "hazard" when you mean "gambling"? It may make it difficult for some a greater-than-usual number of people to understand what the Hell you're complaining about.

[Thule]

Merely out of curiosity, is there some reason you're using the word "hazard" when you mean "gambling"? It may make it difficult for some a greater-than-usual number of people to understand what the Hell you're complaining about.

You are right i'm sorry.I thought in english harzard has the same meaning like gambling for money

[Steamtyme]

I believe someone already pointed out that there was no goods being sold just by advertising. This was in your Lauda reputation thread.

By your definition of hazard equating to gambling I shouldn't go outside without an airtank, as there are dangerous substances in the air.

Gambling is legal in many jurisdictions, it's not up to the forum to police us or the world. Each member is responsible.to know what they can or cannot participate in for their jurisdiction.

To truly assist people you may want to open a forum support group to assist the addicts.

[Thule]

I believe someone already pointed out that there was no goods being sold just by advertising. This was in your Lauda reputation thread.

By your definition of hazard equating to gambling I shouldn't go outside without an airtank, as there are dangerous substances in the air.

Gambling is legal in many jurisdictions, it's not up to the forum to police us or the world. Each member is responsible.to know what they can or cannot participate in for their jurisdiction.

To truly assist people you may want to open a forum support group to assist the addicts.

you are talking about licensed gambling.The gambling these people advertise have no license at these jurisdictions at all

[Steamtyme]

Your OP has no examples of these unliscensed gambling sites.

So no one can go and see if they hold a liscense/permit or gold star sticker allowing them to operate in any jurisdiction. Again I say to anything it's up to the individual if they partake in an illegal activity, or an activity that is illegal to them.

[Thule]

Your OP has no examples of these unliscensed gambling sites.

So no one can go and see if they hold a liscense/permit or gold star sticker allowing them to operate in any jurisdiction. Again I say to anything it's up to the individual if they partake in an illegal activity, or an activity that is illegal to them.

All advertised signature campaigns gambling website have only licenses for small islands.
I guess thats enough info to say all are against major jurisdictions.

[HODL2090]

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It has been reitirated often that scams on the forum are not moderated, this should also include potential scams, like gambling sites which are not licensed.  If you do bring up one of such sites it could be looked into by the DT and the creators tagged, but I doubt there would be a ban on the entire section.

[Foxpup]

All advertised signature campaigns gambling website have only licenses for small islands.

A country's geographic status doesn't come into it. Otherwise the validity of my driver's licence would depend on whether Australia is an island or a continent (unfortunately, the geographers never did resolve that debate satisfactorily).

[LoyceV]

Second harzard are here also promoted to minors.

This isn't kindergarten, this is Bitcointalk. If you want a safe site where an adult holds your hand, go to Disney.com.

If kids get their hands on some Bitcoin, it's a good learning experience one way or another. Even if they lose all their money gambling illegally, it's probably a good lesson. Better to lose their allowance than their life savings later on.
That being said, kids shouldn't gamble. But that's something their parents have to teach them, you can't make the entire internet safe for kids.

[DireWolfM14]

Am asking to ban hazard advertisement on this forum.

@Thule
Getting no where attacking individuals, so you now you are shifting your attack to a whole subsection of the forum's economy?  You are so predictable and petty.  If you are so disgruntled with activities on the forum, take suchmoon's advice; report every thread or post that you feel violates some obscure jurisdictional law, then sit back and watch as the moderators turn this place into Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood forum.

 

[Thule]

It has been reitirated often that scams on the forum are not moderated, this should also include potential scams, like gambling sites which are not licensed.  If you do bring up one of such sites it could be looked into by the DT and the creators tagged, but I doubt there would be a ban on the entire section.

Haven't seen a single one being tagged

A country's geographic status doesn't come into it. Otherwise the validity of my driver's licence would depend on whether Australia is an island or a continent (unfortunately, the geographers never did resolve that debate satisfactorily).

Don't compare australia with these small offshore islands.Everyone knows what purpose these have

This isn't kindergarten, this is Bitcointalk. If you want a safe site where an adult holds your hand, go to Disney.com.

Have you read the terms of this forum ?No ?So maybe there are no age restrictions and it is a kindergarten ?But since you claim it isn't based on which fact do you claim so ?

@Thule
Getting no where attacking individuals, so you now you are shifting your attack to a whole subsection of the forum's economy?  You are so predictable and petty.  If you are so disgruntled with activities on the forum, take suchmoon's advice; report every thread or post that you feel violates some obscure jurisdictional law, then sit back and watch as the moderators turn this place into Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood forum.

You claim my post is not valid ?That gambling is bad for many people and thats why its strictly under governmental organisations control ?
We have enough vicitics here on this forum with their gambling addicts.
You always claim to try to protect bitcointalk members against every bullshit.You babysitt them.
But once there is a niche from where you make nice profit you don't care anymore about protecting these members.
What you care is just the money you receive and nothing more.
At least people should see your disgusting actions playing a fake protector where in reality you try to milk the community as much as possible

[bill gator]

Imagine a world where advertisements were only allowed to be displayed (on an international forum heavily based upon decentralization and small/no government) if they were allowed in every jurisdiction. What kind of vetting process must we implement to make this possible? Tyranny.

[Thule]

Imagine a world where advertisements were only allowed to be displayed (on an international forum heavily based upon decentralization and small/no government) if they were allowed in every jurisdiction. What kind of vetting process must we implement to make this possible? Tyranny.

Stay in reality.Advertising these gambling websites is nearly nowhere legal.Your never ending poor imaginations are getting boring.Stay in the real world with real laws and real jurisdiction and stop your imaginary nonsense.

[Harlot]

All advertised signature campaigns gambling website have only licenses for small islands.
I guess thats enough info to say all are against major jurisdictions.

Dude, if they are a licensed entity on just that "small island" (Curacao) you are referring to it doesn't mean it cannot be played internationally, this gambling sites have found a legal loophole on how they can operate internationally without being licensed in each country it can be played, that is how e-gaming laws works and they allow it. And if there are strict laws in countries these gambling sites you are referring to are blocking their IP addresses so they can't access the website, another measure is they also block and ban accounts if they detect you using a VPN service. So it is really the user's discretion on how they will play in the gambling sites being advertised here in the forum.

[Thule]

All advertised signature campaigns gambling website have only licenses for small islands.
I guess thats enough info to say all are against major jurisdictions.

Dude, if they are a licensed entity on just that "small island" (Curacao) you are referring to it doesn't mean it cannot be played internationally, this gambling sites have found a legal loophole on how they can operate internationally without being licensed in each country it can be played, that is how e-gaming laws works and they allow it. And if there are strict laws in countries these gambling sites you are referring to are blocking their IP addresses so they can't access the website, another measure is they also block and ban accounts if they detect you using a VPN service. So it is really the user's discretion on how they will play in the gambling sites being advertised here in the forum.

Next nonsense
The operator is running legal since he is operating from that island.
However gamblers are not allowed by law to use that website.Of course they are not being hunted much when breaking that law but still it is against the law.
The main issue here is the advertisment of that gambling website which is clearly done by people from outside of the jurisdiction of Curacao which means they can be hold responsibile for their actions by their local laws.
People are mainly from Europe,North America and Australia where advertsing non legalised gambling websites is a criminal offense.

[Lafu]

You should change the Thread name from "hazard" to  "gambling"   !

Nobody knows what you mean about !

[Thule]

You should change the Thread name from "hazard" to  "gambling"   !

Nobody knows what you mean about !

done

[fronti]

This isn't kindergarten, this is Bitcointalk.

sometimes I'm not sure..

but to not become off topic.
When you start banning gambling advertisments what about advertisments on other services which are not legal everywhere.
Like Exchange services.

[Thule]

This isn't kindergarten, this is Bitcointalk.

sometimes I'm not sure..

but to not become off topic.
When you start banning gambling advertisments what about advertisments on other services which are not legal everywhere.
Like Exchange services.

Comparing gambling with exchanges seems to be hard.
But i will try.
These gambling websites are on 90% of countries ilegal.
Your claimed exchanges on how many ?Oh i forgat exchanges are not ilegal but haven't just been legalised yet.
But you can of course show me countries which have in their laws added that crypto exchanges are ilegal

[Thule]

When you start banning gambling advertisments what about advertisments on other services which are not legal everywhere.
Like Exchange services.

Don't forget ICO, coin mixer and even Bitcoin itself.

ICO attacked because many ICO are scam or doomed to fail while coin mixer attacked because people think privacy is equal to criminal.

show me a law saying its ilegal ?

Mixing up personal opinions with factual law to play down gambling is nothing i would be proud of.

[actmyname]

Why stop at the forum? Why not go stop all gambling advertisements?

And while you're at it, let's also stop alcohol and cigarette advertisements. After all, they are promoted to minors! And hey, bitcoin too! It's used to buy drugs and illicit items! And it's a money-laundering tool! Oh no!

[Thule]

Why stop at the forum? Why not go stop all gambling advertisements?

And while you're at it, let's also stop alcohol and cigarette advertisements. After all, they are promoted to minors! And hey, bitcoin too! It's used to buy drugs and illicit items! And it's a money-laundering tool! Oh no!

Please stay on topic if not go outside of the forum and safe the world from scammers by tagging them

[actmyname]

Please stay on topic if not go outside of the forum and safe the world from scammers by tagging them

I am staying on topic. However, I have expanded it so that you have a sense of perspective. Once you begin regulation, you have to determine subjective values.

Ban gambling advertisements... but should we still have the Gambling board? That promotes gambling, doesn't it? How about the Investor-based games section which is just a cesspool of ponzis and HYIPs? What about ICO's, in which most of the time, investing in it results in a deep loss?

[DarkStar_]

Be responsible for what you see yourself by installing Signature Adblock, adding a gambling site list to your hosts file, blocking the forum's ads and installing uBlock Origin for general blocking.

[Foxpup]

show me a law saying its ilegal ?

You first. Currently you look like this: youtube.com/watch?v=nMuh33BMZYY

[Harlot]

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Next nonsense
The operator is running legal since he is operating from that island.
However gamblers are not allowed by law to use that website.Of course they are not being hunted much when breaking that law but still it is against the law.
The main issue here is the advertisment of that gambling website which is clearly done by people from outside of the jurisdiction of Curacao which means they can be hold responsibile for their actions by their local laws.
People are mainly from Europe,North America and Australia where advertsing non legalised gambling websites is a criminal offense.

So what you are saying is only Curacao citizens can play on these gambling websites? Then what can you tell about the Philippine law when it comes to playing in these websites? Keep in mind that this is also the similar situation for most of the countries when play foreign based gambling sites.

Filipino players can legally participate in online casino entertainment as long as the destination at which they are playing is located and regulated outside of the Philippines.

You can read the whole article if you want to but I don't think you will find something clever that you can use against me. Like I said this is a loophole for being a licensed gambling casino and their government can't do nothing if their citizens wants to play with these sites.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Give me a break, OP.  You don't care about anything but your own vendetta against DT--not gambling addiction, kids, or anything else.  It's as transparent as it gets.

You really want to censor advertising in order to protect people?  I can't think of anything less in the spirit of bitcoin than that.  FFS, just give up this foolish quest of yours, which is only getting more desperate as time goes on.  No one supports you, which is why you've had to resort to using sockpuppets like ito-marketing to make it appear as if anyone is listening.

[mdayonliner]

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In this forum I believe we all are adult. So if I gamble then I am responsible for me. Gambling is an entertainment same as watching movies, sports etc.

DT members claim to protect people from scams.

DTs are not parents. They are here to keep the community standard in order. I get it that DT system is individuals are not 100% neutral, not non-biased however they are human too. I know a lot of DTs doing their job right or at least trying to do their best.

I see no problem to promote gambling sites in this forum unless they are not scamming their customers like recent cloudbet incidence. When we find any of them is trying to scam then we better stop endorsing them. Ruin their reputation so that the next person do not get scammed.

[The Cryptovator]

I am not sure, why OP always post against DT members. Really you are not fighting with gambling. OP mentioned gambling as a hazard. So did you made any motivational post for addicted gambler? Can you show me any online earning sources where is not involved risk? Do you think that gamblers are not aware about this risk ? So you need fight first against ICO's. Is it not more risky from gamble? Even you hold bitcoin or trade on exchange, everywhere risk is involve. Do you think if forum ban gambling advertise then no one will play? I don't think so.

Just imagine, drug addiction is ban on your country. But do you think really peoples are not taking drugs? However I was thought same as you once I was newbie. But you are not newbie, you know everything. It would be better make motivational post for addicted peoples instead of fight with DT.    

[marlboroza]

You are right i'm sorry.I thought in english harzard has the same meaning like gambling for money

Last time I checked law in my country, bitcoin isn't money and as the matter of fact, our national bank made statement that "Bitcoin is equal to world of warcraft's gold".

Third its a known fact that hazard destroys a lot of peoples life.

Alcohol and tobacco destroys life too. Driving fast destroys lives, why do they manufacture cars which can go 200+ kmph while driving speed is 50-130?

First the promoted websites have no license for major jurisdictions.

You have also a forum rule stating that no product is being allowed to be offered or sold which is buyers or seller jurisdiction is being ilegal.
Promoting unlicenses gambling is in nearly every jurisdiction forbidden.

So this is what you have to do:

Go to gambling board and make a list of all gambling sites. Post list here, together with their licenses and countries where it is allowed to gamble in such sites. Then research laws about bitcoin for every single country and see if it is necessary to license bitcoin gambling site, maybe country exist which will see gambling with bitcoin as playing game with world of warcraft's gold  

After you are done, go to google store, find all gambling games where you can buy in-game credit to spin a wheel and write complain to google. Also do research about games where it is allowed to buy credits to play gambling games, do they need license to accept money from players. Also make complain to google that these games are creating little addicts.

[libert19]

You mean gambling signature campaigns? You can turn them off from forum settings if you don't like.

Profile >> Look and Layout Preferences >> check 'don't show users signatures'.