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February 20, 2019, 10:46:54 AM
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Users:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30747
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101872
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Have been abusing Bitcointalk Trust system by giving negative trust reviews, not because of scam, but because they simply do not agree with that I have been doing.

Also Bitcointalk Trust system allows this, because for some reason majority of feedback is market as "untrusted", which leads to the situation where only small % of Bitcointalk members are able to give Trust score. A perfect example of cronyism.

Check my trust score for proof.

Also read an article about it:

https://cryptocurrencyhub.io/fake-trust-and-merit-system-on-bitcointalk-c5a3f9707fab

My trust score has been ruined by fake negative reviews by lying users. Click on my "trust" and then "reference" to see for what exactly I got them.
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February 20, 2019, 11:19:08 AM
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What is your aim here? The feedback you're complaining about was left over 8 months ago. Why decide to post this now? Also in this post you claim you wrote the article you are now referring to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4514764.msg40646208#msg40646208
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February 20, 2019, 11:44:43 AM
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I have posted about this 8 months ago, but no one from forum moderators or admin did anything.

This is a section for scam accusations. So I'm just reminding everyone about scams going on on this forum.

Until they will put a stop to this, this matter is actual. Because there are other people who suffer from this.

But you don't care. You are part of the gang already.

And please tell me how the fuck does one get 1 to 6 ratio of Merits and posts? I posted so much, helped so many people, but still got only 1 to 50 ratio. You guys, just don't want to give merit to newbie members, right? And since newbies can't give merit either, there's no way for all the rest to get merit.

My trust score has been ruined by fake negative reviews by lying users. Click on my "trust" and then "reference" to see for what exactly I got them.
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February 20, 2019, 11:45:35 AM
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I can't see anything about scam here. Why are you claiming on your subject about scam trust system? If you think that they have left you negative feedback's for invalid reasons then go to reputation and open thread, why are you think that your feedback wrong. So others DT will check your post and if they think you are legit then other DT will counter tag. It can solve by discussion. That's not right way remove your feedback.

Your Accusation is invalid

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February 20, 2019, 11:48:27 AM
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I can't see anything about scam here. Why are you claiming on your subject about scam trust system? If you think that they have left you negative feedback's for invalid reasons then go to reputation and open thread, why are you think that your feedback wrong. So others DT will check your post and if you are legit then other DT will counter tag. It can solve by discussion. That's not right way remove your feedback.

Your Accusation is invalid

I did complain on that section, and what happened was me getting 3 more negative trust scores. Because scammer protect themselves.

Why don't we listen what newbie members have to say about this?

ALSO WHY NEITHER OF YOU WANTS TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS SYSTEM IS UNFAIR AND WORKS THIS WAY?

My trust score has been ruined by fake negative reviews by lying users. Click on my "trust" and then "reference" to see for what exactly I got them.
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February 20, 2019, 12:12:43 PM
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Why don't we listen what newbie members have to say about this?
Says person who is running ICO bump service. I bet you have bunch of newbie accounts which have something to say.

I have posted about this 8 months ago, but no one from forum moderators or admin did anything.
Yeah, crazy, I am not sure why you are not banned. Bumping threads to keep them on top is against forum rules and you are doing this on larger scale.

Buying forum accounts with positive trust?
Will buy Hero or Legendary Bitcointalk account.

Must be with positive or zero Trust.
Well, you got another one from me.
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February 20, 2019, 12:23:17 PM
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Buying forum accounts with positive trust?
Well, you got another one from me.

You can't give me another one idiot. You already have  Grin

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February 20, 2019, 12:43:43 PM
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And the scam continues. I'm getting more fake trust reviews, just because of expressing my opinion.

This forum is full of shit.

My trust score has been ruined by fake negative reviews by lying users. Click on my "trust" and then "reference" to see for what exactly I got them.
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February 20, 2019, 12:47:40 PM
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This is a section for scam accusations. So I'm just reminding everyone about scams going on on this forum.

Scam ?
What did scammers take away from you ?  Roll Eyes

Trust feedbacks are not commercial trades. They're opinions of you that you receive from other forum users.
So far all the feedbacks you have received are factual.

If the business you engage in here is deemed untrustworthy, there will be probably consequences.

Left you feedback, as account traders are not to be trusted.
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February 20, 2019, 01:03:11 PM
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Just noticed now OP had tried to buy account with green trust. So one more negative feedback from my side. I told if you think that your tag is invalid then open thread. But seems to me your all feedback is valid. So in that condition if you try to open thread against DT members then obviously more feedback's will reflect on your profile. If you are on right way then any DT can't tag you. If you do wrong then everyone able to tag you. Nothing going to change even you make scam accusation, because you are a corrupted user. Perhaps more tag will reflect on your profile soon...

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February 20, 2019, 01:50:53 PM
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is this Filip the same Filip that advised this scammer?


https://icobench.com/ico/uchit
http://web.archive.org/web/20190220130836/https://icobench.com/ico/uchit

If so, maybe he will help all these people that participated in the bounty for that scam project:
Bounty not paid: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3167782.0 (over 600 pages)


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February 20, 2019, 02:15:13 PM
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Mr. Poutintsev seems to be involved with another scam project called Bitbook. Scam accusation here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5109763.0

According to his personal LinkedIn page, he is CMO of Bitbook.



https://www.linkedin.com/in/poutintsev/

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February 20, 2019, 02:38:14 PM
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I have posted about this 8 months ago, but no one from forum moderators or admin did anything.

Please bump your previous topic instead of poluting the forum by making duplicate topics.


But you don't care. You are part of the gang already.


How am I part of "the gang"? Please point me towards feedback I have left regarding me disagreeing with someone's opinion.


And please tell me how the fuck does one get 1 to 6 ratio of Merits and posts? I posted so much, helped so many people, but still got only 1 to 50 ratio. You guys, just don't want to give merit to newbie members, right? And since newbies can't give merit either, there's no way for all the rest to get merit.


I was a Legendary member before the merit system was introduced so I started out with 1000 merit. I am happy to merit newbie members if I come across quality posts (even though I am not a merit source).
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February 20, 2019, 02:38:49 PM
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Scam ?
What did scammers take away from you ?  Roll Eyes

Trust feedbacks are not commercial trades. They're opinions of you that you receive from other forum users.
So far all the feedbacks you have received are factual.

If the business you engage in here is deemed untrustworthy, there will be probably consequences.

Left you feedback, as account traders are not to be trusted.

Giving fake reviews is a scam. And they are ruining my reputation.

1. Why does this forum display opinion of other members as suggestion of someones trustworthiness, when no scam has taken place in reality?

2. Why vast majority of trust feedback is market as "untrusty" and therefore have no impact of trust score?

Sounds like fake a corrupted system to me, that is run by some jerks.

With a system like this you are just begging for account traders, bumping services and other stuff you don't like, because it's the only way to normal do business here.

My trust score has been ruined by fake negative reviews by lying users. Click on my "trust" and then "reference" to see for what exactly I got them.
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February 20, 2019, 02:57:35 PM
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Giving fake reviews is a scam. And they are ruining my reputation.

What about being an adviser for a scam? Should we give you a review for that?

Bounty was NOT paid: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3167782.0 (over 600 pages) who will pay these people?

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February 20, 2019, 03:08:04 PM
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Let's discuss Fake Bitcoitalk Trust System here and Uchit we can discuss in other section.

You guys:

1. Cannot even answer my questions about Fake Bitcoitalk Trust System.

2. Are all cowards who don't have the courage to use your own name.

And still try to teach me about scam.

This is ridiculous!

My trust score has been ruined by fake negative reviews by lying users. Click on my "trust" and then "reference" to see for what exactly I got them.
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February 20, 2019, 03:12:48 PM
Last edit: February 20, 2019, 03:52:37 PM by ICOEthics
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Let's discuss Fake Bitcoitalk Trust System here and Uchit we can discuss in other section.

You guys:

1. Cannot even answer my questions about Fake Bitcoitalk Trust System.

2. Are all cowards who don't have the courage to use your own name.

And still try to teach me about scam.

This is ridiculous!


Ok, lets talk about what you do as an adviser:

What about your article teaching how to scam AirBNB ?   Is that how you advise these ICOs projects: on how to make a scam?
We are not trying to "teach" you about scam. It appears that you already know a lot about it.




https://medium.com/@filip.poutintsev/how-to-scam-airbnb-d1b2edabad49
http://web.archive.org/web/20190220131127/https://icoholder.com/en/uchit-ico-19280



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February 20, 2019, 03:13:30 PM
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This forum is full of shit.
If you leave, forum will have one shit less.

is this Filip the same Filip that advised this scammer?


Yes, that is him.

Mr. Poutintsev seems to be involved with another scam project called Bitbook. Scam accusation here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5109763.0

According to his personal LinkedIn page, he is CMO of Bitbook.



https://www.linkedin.com/in/poutintsev/

Oh, that must be the reason why he is so pissed, someone exposed them  Cheesy

Speaking of ICO bumping crap:

Is it me or anyone also thinks like that they have hired some bumping service: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110353.msg49763107#msg49763107

Unlike some, there are some newbies posting it as a great idea and posting some minutes apart from each other.

What a coincidence!
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February 20, 2019, 03:16:41 PM
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2. Are all cowards who don't have the courage to use your own name.

Mate, this is a forum, there's no need for us to be known with our real names, in fact these might be used for scams just like what you're involve in. We're all anonymous here for solely reason of security.

It's not being coward. It's just we're not being so stupid.
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February 20, 2019, 03:28:39 PM
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2. Are all cowards who don't have the courage to use your own name.

if I were running some ICO or creating some project that needed to ask for money from other people, I would show my Face and show my real name. Look at my country Mozambique:



this is the beach of my city... now imagine that I make many trade with many members of the forum, these people who trade with me, will be counting on my word and trust and they will have guarantees that I will not steal because they know where I live, But if a person like you buys my account, then all people who have traded with me, will be in danger. Do you understand this?


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