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April 30, 2020, 01:16:25 AM
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Do you have problems with reading comprehension, are you too lazy to source your material, or are you intentionally avoiding providing citations and context for what you present? I say a little bit of all three.

I'm assuming this is most likely true, as I can see Trump saying it, but can we have a link here to this quote? Kinda just want to read / watch this interview and see went on here.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-tour-centers-disease-control-prevention-atlanta-ga/

What's with the demands for sources when you can just google a few keywords (uncle mit cdc trump) and you get a bunch of sources from CNN to the White House itself... do you guys really think Twitchy made it up? Only Trump can make this kind of shit up, Twitchy can't hold a candle to his stable genius Smiley


Oh I totally don't think that Twitchy made it up. I copy and pasted a few parts of it and got unrelated articles, so I just wanted him to pull exactly where he got it from so I'd be able to run through it and find the data and all that info.

I even said that I assume it to be true, as I can literally see Trump saying it. Plus what's the reason for Twitchy to lie? None at all. Just asked to be able to look through it, that's all.




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April 30, 2020, 01:30:55 AM
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Do you have problems with reading comprehension, are you too lazy to source your material, or are you intentionally avoiding providing citations and context for what you present? I say a little bit of all three.

I'm assuming this is most likely true, as I can see Trump saying it, but can we have a link here to this quote? Kinda just want to read / watch this interview and see went on here.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-tour-centers-disease-control-prevention-atlanta-ga/

What's with the demands for sources when you can just google a few keywords (uncle mit cdc trump) and you get a bunch of sources from CNN to the White House itself... do you guys really think Twitchy made it up? Only Trump can make this kind of shit up, Twitchy can't hold a candle to his stable genius Smiley


I was actually worried myself I made it up or took it out of context since I suffer from TDS.  I'm glad someone else saw the same thing I saw, maybe my TDS is improving....wait....have you been tested for TDS?  It's possible we both have it and none of this is real.  Fuck.

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April 30, 2020, 01:35:04 AM
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In Jan Trump said the US had experts on the ground working very closely with China and everything was under control.

In Feb Trump said
 -China was being transparent and doing a great job handling the virus.
-The virus was a democratic hoax.
-The fed gov was setting up testing centers in store parking lots all over the country
-The virus would weaken when April comes and would disappear like a miracle.
-There were only 14 cases in the county (There were 50 or 60), and soon it would be down to 0.

In March Trump said
- Anyone who wants a test can have a test.
- Private insurance companies agreed to wave all copays for coronavirus treatment. (they didn't)
- All trade with Europe would be suspended. (it wasn't)
- We're going to have a vaccine very soon. (we aren't)
- The FDA approved chloroquine to tread covid-19 (they didn't)

Is that enough or do you need more?



https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-tour-centers-disease-control-prevention-atlanta-ga/

What's with the demands for sources when you can just google a few keywords (uncle mit cdc trump) and you get a bunch of sources from CNN to the White House itself... do you guys really think Twitchy made it up? Only Trump can make this kind of shit up, Twitchy can't hold a candle to his stable genius Smiley


Because it is not my job to do his legwork for him. Why the fuck would I waste my time researching things he should be sourcing himself? He who claims proves. Several of the claims he made as factual are selectively edited, interpretations, or simply untrue. Much like you, he is more interested in "winning" and feeling right than being correct. He is more full of shit than a bull rectum. The only way to hold some one so totally full of shit to account is to force them to make direct sourced positive affirmations of their claims. Anything else is just results in retarded topic sliding, sophistry, and rhetoric. (see above)
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April 30, 2020, 02:00:46 AM
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Why the fuck would I waste my time researching things

I don't know, you tell me, you're the one demanding sources. Most people with at least a passing interest in US politics have probably seen those claims before but if you haven't and you're interested it takes literally a few seconds to search for it and - bonus - you can research all aspects of the claim since you probably wouldn't trust Twitchy's source anyway.

Several of the claims he made as factual are selectively edited, interpretations, or simply untrue.

Excellent. See you can make claims without sources too. Ain't free speech great.
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April 30, 2020, 02:39:07 AM
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Why the fuck would I waste my time researching things

I don't know, you tell me, you're the one demanding sources. Most people with at least a passing interest in US politics have probably seen those claims before but if you haven't and you're interested it takes literally a few seconds to search for it and - bonus - you can research all aspects of the claim since you probably wouldn't trust Twitchy's source anyway.

Several of the claims he made as factual are selectively edited, interpretations, or simply untrue.

Excellent. See you can make claims without sources too. Ain't free speech great.

I know you know what burden of proof is, but you enjoy yourself doing your best impersonation of a bull rectum.
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April 30, 2020, 03:28:00 AM
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My TDS makes me think Trump says whatever he thinks will make him look good (or his opponents look bad) with very little regard for the truth.  Even at White House Press briefings during a national crisis.

Jan 22: "we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”
Feb 19: “in April, supposedly, it dies with the hotter weather. And that’s a beautiful date to look forward to.” "We’re going very substantially down, not up."
Feb 27: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear”
Mar 7: “It’s got the world aflutter, but it’ll work out,”

Mar 11: WHO officially declares pandemic.

Mar 17: “I’ve always known this is a, this is a real, this is a pandemic. I’ve felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic. All you had to do is look at other countries. ... No, I’ve always viewed it as very serious.”
Trump cutoff travel from China in January, and this is probably what he is referring to when he says he was taking it seriously.

On Jan 20 and Jan 22, the WHO said there was human to human transmission of the Wuhan virus, however, before that, they were saying this was not the case. I am not sure of the timing of Trump's Jan 22 statement and the WHO statements on the same date. China did not let the US CDC inside Wuhan to get a better understanding of the virus, and as a result, the rest of the world, including Trump had a difficult time gauging the seriousness of the Wuhan virus.

The Wuhan virus is not going to be here forever. I can assure you that if Trump loses the election, it will be declared safe to open up the economy the day after the election. Unless the virus mutates enough, once you recover from the Wuhan virus, you are immune from the virus, as is the case for all viruses. (if you get the flu multiple times, this is because you have caught multiple strands of the flu).

Trump, like all other politicians, will try to shine everything in a positive light for themselves.

I would point out the US's worst mayor encouraged people to visit New York theaters on a March 5 show, and 11 days after the show he encouraged New Yorkers to watch, he described the coronavirus situation as "war-like". Some of the people who got infected from going to the March 5 show had probably not yet started showing symptoms. There are other examples of prominent democrats encouraging people to go out in public in crowded areas around the same time. 
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My TDS makes me think Trump says whatever he thinks will make him look good (or his opponents look bad) with very little regard for the truth.  Even at White House Press briefings during a national crisis.

Jan 22: "we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”
Feb 19: “in April, supposedly, it dies with the hotter weather. And that’s a beautiful date to look forward to.” "We’re going very substantially down, not up."
Feb 27: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear”
Mar 7: “It’s got the world aflutter, but it’ll work out,”

Mar 11: WHO officially declares pandemic.

Mar 17: “I’ve always known this is a, this is a real, this is a pandemic. I’ve felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic. All you had to do is look at other countries. ... No, I’ve always viewed it as very serious.”
Trump cutoff travel from China in January, and this is probably what he is referring to when he says he was taking it seriously.

On Jan 20 and Jan 22, the WHO said there was human to human transmission of the Wuhan virus, however, before that, they were saying this was not the case. I am not sure of the timing of Trump's Jan 22 statement and the WHO statements on the same date. China did not let the US CDC inside Wuhan to get a better understanding of the virus, and as a result, the rest of the world, including Trump had a difficult time gauging the seriousness of the Wuhan virus.

The Wuhan virus is not going to be here forever. I can assure you that if Trump loses the election, it will be declared safe to open up the economy the day after the election. Unless the virus mutates enough, once you recover from the Wuhan virus, you are immune from the virus, as is the case for all viruses. (if you get the flu multiple times, this is because you have caught multiple strands of the flu).

Trump, like all other politicians, will try to shine everything in a positive light for themselves.

I would point out the US's worst mayor encouraged people to visit New York theaters on a March 5 show, and 11 days after the show he encouraged New Yorkers to watch, he described the coronavirus situation as "war-like". Some of the people who got infected from going to the March 5 show had probably not yet started showing symptoms. There are other examples of prominent democrats encouraging people to go out in public in crowded areas around the same time. 

Don't do his work for him. Make this manipulative piece of shit actually do the work to support his statements so he can eat his words.
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April 30, 2020, 06:19:13 AM
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My TDS makes me think Trump says whatever he thinks will make him look good (or his opponents look bad) with very little regard for the truth.  Even at White House Press briefings during a national crisis.

Jan 22: "we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”
Feb 19: “in April, supposedly, it dies with the hotter weather. And that’s a beautiful date to look forward to.” "We’re going very substantially down, not up."
Feb 27: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear”
Mar 7: “It’s got the world aflutter, but it’ll work out,”

Mar 11: WHO officially declares pandemic.

Mar 17: “I’ve always known this is a, this is a real, this is a pandemic. I’ve felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic. All you had to do is look at other countries. ... No, I’ve always viewed it as very serious.”
Trump cutoff travel from China in January, and this is probably what he is referring to when he says he was taking it seriously.

On Jan 20 and Jan 22, the WHO said there was human to human transmission of the Wuhan virus, however, before that, they were saying this was not the case. I am not sure of the timing of Trump's Jan 22 statement and the WHO statements on the same date. China did not let the US CDC inside Wuhan to get a better understanding of the virus, and as a result, the rest of the world, including Trump had a difficult time gauging the seriousness of the Wuhan virus.

The Wuhan virus is not going to be here forever. I can assure you that if Trump loses the election, it will be declared safe to open up the economy the day after the election. Unless the virus mutates enough, once you recover from the Wuhan virus, you are immune from the virus, as is the case for all viruses. (if you get the flu multiple times, this is because you have caught multiple strands of the flu).

Trump, like all other politicians, will try to shine everything in a positive light for themselves.

I would point out the US's worst mayor encouraged people to visit New York theaters on a March 5 show, and 11 days after the show he encouraged New Yorkers to watch, he described the coronavirus situation as "war-like". Some of the people who got infected from going to the March 5 show had probably not yet started showing symptoms. There are other examples of prominent democrats encouraging people to go out in public in crowded areas around the same time.  

I'm not going to disagree with any of that*(I also think de Blasio is an idiot), but I think it's a mistake to judge a leaders response to a mystery virus in Jan by what the virus ends up doing in April since the decision they make has to be based on the information at the time it's made.  The optimal decision (which has to be theoretical) will always be selfless and not influenced by any emotion.  It's entirely possible to make the theoretically correct decision in Jan and end up being completely wrong due to some variable that was impossible to account for.  It's also possible to make the right decision for all the wrong reasons.

The point I was trying to make is that I think Trump is more focused on coming out of this with the appearance of making the right decision than actually making it.

*"Trump, like all other politicians, will try to shine everything in a positive light for themselves."
Not a false statement, depending on what 'everything' means - but come on now, he takes it to a whole new level.



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April 30, 2020, 08:21:14 AM
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My TDS makes me think Trump says whatever he thinks will make him look good (or his opponents look bad) with very little regard for the truth.  Even at White House Press briefings during a national crisis.

Yeah, I felt the same way whenever Obama talked about Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Affordable (snicker) Care Act...

The only difference, Trump isn't responsible for creating Covid-19.  Undecided

if fast and furious went down today under trump every single trump supporter including you would love it and praise him all day and night for being so tough on illegal mexicans. it wouldnt matter how many guns they lost.

anyone that criticized it would be accused of supporting the mexican cartel or having tds
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My TDS makes me think Trump says whatever he thinks will make him look good (or his opponents look bad) with very little regard for the truth.  Even at White House Press briefings during a national crisis.

Yeah, I felt the same way whenever Obama talked about Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Affordable (snicker) Care Act...

The only difference, Trump isn't responsible for creating Covid-19.  Undecided

if fast and furious went down today under trump every single trump supporter including you would love it and praise him all day and night for being so tough on illegal mexicans. it wouldnt matter how many guns they lost.

anyone that criticized it would be accused of supporting the mexican cartel or having tds

I can't tell if this is scary dumb, or funny dumb.  Let me educate you about something, son.  Fast and Furious wasn't about "illegal Mexicans," since when has a Democrat cared to do anything about that?  Fast and Furious was about illegal guns, and I'm sure it's supporters were expecting to obtain a lot of evidence to support their anti-second amendment biases.  No conservative would have endorsed such bullshit.

And, can you imagine the outrage that would have ensue if Trump had given firearms to known drug cartels, which then lead to one of those guns being used to kill a DEA agent?  But to Obummer supporters, you don't care about the death of Americans directly caused by Democrats' ineptitude, arrogance, and pure spite for the constitution.  No, you only care when the lives Americans can't be saved by a Republican.  Then you'll be outraged...

So to you, dupeddonk, read and learn before saying anything so fucking stupid again.

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Will give you some attention later - grown ups are talking now.  

Thanks for the demonstration of how willfully full of shit you are. You know a lot of what you are saying is not true, so you act all cutesy to avoid having to cite anything and just attempt to topic slide.
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if fast and furious went down today under trump every single trump supporter including you would love it and praise him all day and night for being so tough on illegal mexicans. it wouldnt matter how many guns they lost.

anyone that criticized it would be accused of supporting the mexican cartel or having tds

F & F Was entirely created by Barack Thomas and his best boy Eric Holder.  Haven't you noticed those two turds pretty much shut the fuck up and haven't said a word since they lost power.  I don't think you would find this under Trump because he has no game in arming the cartels.
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For those who don't know, there is video of audio that corroborates the Tara Reade story. Its the most powerful 25 year old evidence you can find. Her Mom calls in to a TV show and says her daughter was raped by a senator and all complaints went on deaf ears. Its a pefect match in everything, the dates, the voice, the response. and of course as soon as it became public CNN and google pulled the video.. now there is a blank where the episode existed but you can find it on uncensored outlets. CNN pretty much confirmed it was real by pulling it.

This is textbook Joe if you haven't followed along.. He's a lifelong rapist like Bill Clinton and his entire life has been all about me me me.
Why do you think the DNC wants him so bad, he has more character flaws and skeletons in his closet and those are the people who's administration is the easiest to take over by special interest. Even old black and white footage exists of creepy Joe saying he's pretty much nothing and nobody and if some donor wants to take him on and put him in office, he will pay it back. Career criminal Joe Biden2020
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Suddenly "believe all women" doesn't sound like such a good idea, eh?

But seriously, if everything else was exactly the same except it was a republican instead of a democrat, I can't even imagine the media storm that would be taking place right now. Every day that passes exposes the media's biases (on both sides) more and more.
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Someone in alt media showed that the Kavanaugh circus was 100% BS, 4 of the women admitted they never even knew or saw him, it was all to make Ford's claim appear stronger. I believe one of them is being sued.  but my real point is the media was reported to have run 100 stories on it, being completely false, Up until last week they ran 0 on Joe Biden and for Biden there is ample evidence.

Its one giant controlled game when you wake up to it.. 100 to 0 in reporting
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Okay, so nevermind that the comment above is one of the dumbest things I've read all day, let's talk about Tara Reade. I look at it the scoreboard of sexual misconduct allegations:

Trump 25
Biden 1

"Oh but Trumps were all false allegations."

Sure... considering its the guy who admitted he liked grabbing women by the pussy, that makes total sense.  Roll Eyes

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LOL Good way to start a lie by saying never mind above.  

Why don't you list the 25 cases against trump with corroborating evidence.

I'm sure I told friends all the crazy things I want to do sexually, but did do them ?  What's wrong with grabbing women by the pussy if they allow you to ? the part you\re missing is Joe Biden and Bill Clinton are rapists,  Trump only talked about it by saying "they let you grab them if you're rich" Very Very big difference ..  Bill Clinton actually admitted to it and payed nearly $1 million to the vicitim.

whereas Joe Biden set up a woman to bring him a fake gym bag down in the basement then forced himself on her .. Where are those claims against Trump? the media couldn't even find one with every outlet working on it, the only woman crazy enough to try fell apart before she should get words out and was found to be a depressed pshcyo who never even met Trump. I know the other one is from the "bar" , despite the fact that Trump doesn't drink and billionaires don't go to bars.



Okay, so nevermind that the comment above is one of the dumbest things I've read all day, let's talk about Tara Reade. I look at it the scoreboard of sexual misconduct allegations:

Trump 25
Biden 1

"Oh but Trumps were all false allegations."

Sure... considering its the guy who admitted he liked grabbing women by the pussy, that makes total sense.  Roll Eyes

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Ok so never mind the idiot above me.  All of his questions can be answered here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

I feel like it's pretty likely that Tara Reades first accusations were probably true about her smelling her hair or whatever and then asking her to be a cocktail waitress.  There are a bunch of other accusations that are similiar.

The shoving her against the wall to finger bang her I'm having a harder time buying.  The guys been in DC forever, if he was running around fingering his staff why are only the girls he cheeped out by hugging them for too long coming forward?

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May 01, 2020, 07:18:35 PM
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Joe Biden has another accusation under his belt. A women is claiming Joe Biden made a comment about her breast - https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/woman-claims-biden-sexually-harassed-her-when-she-was-14-years-old-by-complimenting-her-breasts/

First Presidential election with both candidates accused of sexual assault/rape. What a timeline.


I myself thought Bernie would be a liability in a general election versus Trump but Joe Biden has a few things to deal with on top of sexual misconduct -- Burisma and Hunter Biden, as well as allegations about cognitive decline. Grab the popcorn folks.
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