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Question: Who is your preferred candidate to ultimately WIN the presidency?
Joe Biden - 12 (9.8%)
Michael Bloomberg - 9 (7.4%)
Cory Booker - 2 (1.6%)
Pete Buttigieg - 8 (6.6%)
Julian Castro - 3 (2.5%)
John Delaney - 2 (1.6%)
Tulsi Gabbard - 13 (10.7%)
Kirsten Gillibrand - 2 (1.6%)
Kamala Harris - 6 (4.9%)
Amy Klobuchar - 2 (1.6%)
Beto O'Rourke - 3 (2.5%)
Bernie Sanders - 31 (25.4%)
Elizabeth Warren - 7 (5.7%)
Andrew Yang - 22 (18%)
Total Voters: 74

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July 14, 2020, 08:34:15 PM
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Doubt by the time Novemeber comes around Texas is still blue. People right now only really care about the Coronavirus and they're not thinking of much else, that'll tighten come election time.

Right, but for a Republican to have any shot at the Presidency, you need to win Texas by at least 10. A smaller margin than that and you can pretty much extrapolate the voter turn out to other states and conclude there isn't enough to get the plurality in places like Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, ect.

Trump won Texas by about ~9 in 2016 and that race was about as close as it gets looking at states like Florida, Michigan, and Wisconsin where Trump barely won.

TO state the obvious, "Winning Texas by less than 10" is not the same as "Texas turning blue."

Yes but look beyond this election cycle. It doesn't have to happen this time around, but when polls have Trump up +1, or even down -5 to Biden, that suggests either people really do not like Trump, or that the state is turning more on the blue side.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2019/12/10/almost-700000-californians-moved-out-of-state-last-year/

More and more Californians are moving out of their state, and Texas is becoming one of the most popular spots. They are bringing over their voting habits. If trends keep up, you'll see more blue voters move to Texas.
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July 14, 2020, 09:10:47 PM
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Let's go back to all hand-counted votes, with the voting stations all protected by average people elected to thos positions... and open-to-the-public for inspection by anybody.


More Voter Fraud EXPOSED, Mailman Pleads Guilty, Cat Gets Voter Forms, 2020 Chaos Has ALREADY Begun



More Voter Fraud EXPOSED, Mailman Pleads Guilty, Cat Gets Voter Forms, 2020 Chaos Has ALREADY Begun. On top of this the first mail in election in NJ is on the verge of collapse amid voter fraud charges.

Democrats are adamant on having mail in voting but the confusion and fraud has started to breed chaos yet still the media would have you believe there is no widespread voter fraud.

This is an attempt at proving a negative. How can you claim there is no voter fraud if you haven't investigated literally every vote? It just isn't possible. But considering we have ample evidence of voter fraud it stands to reason there is a lot more that does not get caught especially with mail in ballots.

Democrats and the far left seem bent on having an insecure system at a time when they also complain about voter manipulation from Russia and other countries.

Republicans on the other hand don't seem to be making a strong enough stand to resist, other than Trump.


More Voter Fraud EXPOSED, Mailman Pleads Guilty, Cat Gets Voter Forms, 2020 Chaos Has ALREADY Begun

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July 15, 2020, 12:56:36 AM
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Yes but look beyond this election cycle. ...
look beyond this latest set of lying liars' "polls"?
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July 15, 2020, 01:59:51 AM
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Doubt by the time Novemeber comes around Texas is still blue. People right now only really care about the Coronavirus and they're not thinking of much else, that'll tighten come election time.

Right, but for a Republican to have any shot at the Presidency, you need to win Texas by at least 10. A smaller margin than that and you can pretty much extrapolate the voter turn out to other states and conclude there isn't enough to get the plurality in places like Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, ect.

Trump won Texas by about ~9 in 2016 and that race was about as close as it gets looking at states like Florida, Michigan, and Wisconsin where Trump barely won.

TO state the obvious, "Winning Texas by less than 10" is not the same as "Texas turning blue."
Yes but look beyond this election cycle. ...
look beyond this latest set of lying liars' "polls"?


He means after the election.

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July 15, 2020, 04:29:33 AM
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Doubt by the time Novemeber comes around Texas is still blue. People right now only really care about the Coronavirus and they're not thinking of much else, that'll tighten come election time.

Right, but for a Republican to have any shot at the Presidency, you need to win Texas by at least 10. A smaller margin than that and you can pretty much extrapolate the voter turn out to other states and conclude there isn't enough to get the plurality in places like Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, ect.

Trump won Texas by about ~9 in 2016 and that race was about as close as it gets looking at states like Florida, Michigan, and Wisconsin where Trump barely won.

TO state the obvious, "Winning Texas by less than 10" is not the same as "Texas turning blue."
Yes but look beyond this election cycle. ...
look beyond this latest set of lying liars' "polls"?


He means after the election.


Just for the record Twitchy, did you draw this out by yourself or like -- where did you find this little picture? Looks like something that could be drawn by one of us.

Doubt that Texas is going to go blue guys. I really think that the polls are going to tighten when November gets closer and closer as people begin to look at all of the issues of the race, instead of just rating this whole thing based on the Trump administration response to the Coronavirus.





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July 15, 2020, 05:31:25 AM
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Doubt that Texas is going to go blue guys. I really think that the polls are going to tighten when November gets closer and closer as people begin to look at all of the issues of the race, instead of just rating this whole thing based on the Trump administration response to the Coronavirus.

That could happen only if Trump's wish comes true and coronavirus magically disappears... which it shows no signs of doing. And while he can ignore people dying quietly, it will be harder to ignore overflowing hospitals in Florida, which happens to be a must-win state for Trump.
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July 15, 2020, 06:44:49 AM
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Doubt that Texas is going to go blue guys. I really think that the polls are going to tighten when November gets closer and closer as people begin to look at all of the issues of the race, instead of just rating this whole thing based on the Trump administration response to the Coronavirus.

That could happen only if Trump's wish comes true and coronavirus magically disappears... which it shows no signs of doing. And while he can ignore people dying quietly, it will be harder to ignore overflowing hospitals in Florida, which happens to be a must-win state for Trump.

You're most likely right on this to a certain extent.

Though I do think that the polls as of right now aren't based on policy or even if people like Biden vs Trump, it's more of just a response to Corona while the election is still pretty far away. My point is that as the election gets closer and closer, the election is going to be more about Biden vs Trump (debates, interviews, etc) then it is about one individual item.

Corona may and most likely will still be the elephant in the room come November. But voters will want more, at lets that's my view.




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TO state the obvious, "Winning Texas by less than 10" is not the same as "Texas turning blue."
Yes but look beyond this election cycle. ...
look beyond this latest set of lying liars' "polls"?
He means after the election.

SO...

"Texas turning blue" slithers in to "Winning by less than ten" and that morphs into "beyond this election cycle".

It's a lot easier just to note that the lying liars keep on lying, regardless. So let's have some more of those fake polls by your lying liars. Because that's all they really do, is produce fake opinions, fake data, fake charts, and put on fake smug little attitudes.

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July 15, 2020, 09:55:46 PM
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Creepy Joe Biden just promised to "double" any money sent to his address.

This is basically the same scam Democrats pull every election "vote for me and I will give you 'free' stuff"



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a hack and a scam

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8527407/Elon-Musk-s-Twitter-shares-tweet-prompts-users-send-money-return-double-amount.html
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Come on man, you know that this is bullshit as you've seen pretty much every outlet already come out and say that all of these accounts were hacked (Elon Musk, Apple, Coinbase, Binance, CashApp, Venmo, BARRACK OBAMA, etc) and that they all spread this same message. I'm assuming that what you wrote is obviously sarcasm at this point, but if it isn't then totally come on.

They couldn't get Trumps account because it is under some special sort of protection b/c of the fact that he is the President of the United States, while Biden is just a candidate (though like, former VP should mean something, and former President Obama should have the same thing)

Tough day for Bitcoin though, people just go back to the ways of thinking that Bitcoin is just this scam and it is only used for scams. That's what regular people are going to take out of this and most likely what the news companies are going to feed them.




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July 16, 2020, 06:49:09 AM
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Come on man, you know that this is bullshit as you've seen pretty much every outlet already come out and say that all of these accounts were hacked (Elon Musk, Apple, Coinbase, Binance, CashApp, Venmo, BARRACK OBAMA, etc) and that they all spread this same message. I'm assuming that what you wrote is obviously sarcasm at this point, but if it isn't then totally come on.

They couldn't get Trumps account because it is under some special sort of protection b/c of the fact that he is the President of the United States, while Biden is just a candidate (though like, former VP should mean something, and former President Obama should have the same thing)

No, the tweet cannot be attributed to Biden, however the retric of "vote for me and I will give you 'free' stuff" can be. This has been a consistent message on the part of Democrats for decades. This is how Obama was elected twice, and will likely play a large role in Biden's messaging.

To my knowledge, no elected/public offical's account was affected. According to Twitter, several employees were the subject of successful social engineering attacks and the attacker was able to use these employees' system access to gain control of certain users' accounts. My guess is that elected/public officials have additional/seperate security that other accounts do not have. Overall, this is very embarrassing for Twitter.
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No, the tweet cannot be attributed to Biden, however the retric of "vote for me and I will give you 'free' stuff" can be. ....

Vote for my socialism and I'll give you double socialism...

Certainly is what they would do...
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No, the tweet cannot be attributed to Biden, however the retric of "vote for me and I will give you 'free' stuff" can be. This has been a consistent message on the part of Democrats for decades. This is how Obama was elected twice, and will likely play a large role in Biden's messaging.

To my knowledge, no elected/public offical's account was affected. According to Twitter, several employees were the subject of successful social engineering attacks and the attacker was able to use these employees' system access to gain control of certain users' accounts. My guess is that elected/public officials have additional/seperate security that other accounts do not have. Overall, this is very embarrassing for Twitter.
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Heh, got it. Just wanted to make sure that we weren't going to attack Biden for something that totally is out of his hands and is totally not his fault.

Totally looks really bad on Twitter though. I'm assuming there was some sort of bribe or just con job on the twitter employees (as ya know, you cant always trust Twitters statement that they're putting out directly)

But yes, this shows that public officials and those with larger followings need more protections on their account, and employees of the platform need less control of posting on these peoples accounts and such. Hopefully changes will be in the works.




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August 06, 2020, 06:11:38 AM
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Double posting on this from my last post to bring up the conversation about who everyone thinks Joe Bidens running mate is going to be. I'm personally someone who thinks that the VP doesn't really do much anyway in regards to votes and voting turnout, though I am curious of who people think are going to be the VP.

In order for myself:

Kamala Harris

Karen Bass

Susan Rice

I know Kamala has a VERY shady past when it comes to law and order, even with that I think that Harris is a great choice when it comes to knowing that your VP is ready for the national stage.





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August 06, 2020, 07:13:31 AM
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Double posting on this from my last post to bring up the conversation about who everyone thinks Joe Bidens running mate is going to be. I'm personally someone who thinks that the VP doesn't really do much anyway in regards to votes and voting turnout, though I am curious of who people think are going to be the VP.

In order for myself:

Kamala Harris

Karen Bass

Susan Rice

I know Kamala has a VERY shady past when it comes to law and order, even with that I think that Harris is a great choice when it comes to knowing that your VP is ready for the national stage.



I thought Harris had this all wrapped up but I saw some stories that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden do not get along and that Susan Rice is a favorite.

I don't get why Joe Biden feels so restricted to pick a black woman. Intersectionality is a hallmark of leftist politics but the fact that Biden's so restricted to a woman who is also black means he's going to pick someone inexperienced. No one has ever heard of Karen Bass and Susan Rice was involved in Michael Flynn's partisan investigation. She hasn't been elected to public office either.

Whoever Joe picks in 2020 will be running in 2024 on Biden's behalf if Biden's ticket wins. Joe is not running for a 2nd term.
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August 06, 2020, 04:11:39 PM
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Double posting on this from my last post to bring up the conversation about who everyone thinks Joe Bidens running mate is going to be. I'm personally someone who thinks that the VP doesn't really do much anyway in regards to votes and voting turnout, though I am curious of who people think are going to be the VP.

In order for myself:

Kamala Harris

Karen Bass

Susan Rice

I know Kamala has a VERY shady past when it comes to law and order, even with that I think that Harris is a great choice when it comes to knowing that your VP is ready for the national stage.



I thought Harris had this all wrapped up but I saw some stories that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden do not get along and that Susan Rice is a favorite.

I don't get why Joe Biden feels so restricted to pick a black woman. Intersectionality is a hallmark of leftist politics but the fact that Biden's so restricted to a woman who is also black means he's going to pick someone inexperienced. No one has ever heard of Karen Bass and Susan Rice was involved in Michael Flynn's partisan investigation. She hasn't been elected to public office either.

Whoever Joe picks in 2020 will be running in 2024 on Biden's behalf if Biden's ticket wins. Joe is not running for a 2nd term.

Pretty sure they don't get along that well because Harris competently lit up Biden on the debate stage, and was one of the reasons that his campaign almost failed. She's seen (inside some circles) as too ambitious and is going to be gunning for her own Presidential bid in 2024 instead of caring about being a loyal advisor to Biden.

Biden is asking for the same amount of loyalty from his VP pick as he had for Obama.

I know that most of us (and most of the media) have said that Biden is only going to be a one term President if he wins in November, but he still could run for reelection even if he's older. He just has to still have his sanity and keep himself under control.





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No one has ever heard of Karen Bass and Susan Rice was involved in Michael Flynn's partisan investigation. She hasn't been elected to public office either.

The Nat Sec Adviser (Susan Rice) was involved in the investigation into the incoming Nat Sec Advisor (Flynn) who, among other things, failed to register as a foreign agent of Turkey then lied about it on the forms when he did - also lied to the VP and Press Sec (who repeated it to the country) about his talks with Russia before Trump took office.  

Only a really shitty Nat Sec Adviser would not be involved.

I don't get why Joe Biden feels so restricted to pick a black woman. Intersectionality is a hallmark of leftist politics but the fact that Biden's so restricted to a woman who is also black means he's going to pick someone inexperienced.

Unless he picks an experienced black female.  Like Kamala Harris or Susan Rice, for example.

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August 06, 2020, 10:10:56 PM
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restricted to a woman who is also black means he's going to pick someone inexperienced

It probably sounded better in your head unless you actually meant to say that all back women are inexperienced.

Edit: LOL Twitchy beat me by an hour.
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restricted to a woman who is also black means he's going to pick someone inexperienced

It probably sounded better in your head unless you actually meant to say that all back women are inexperienced.

Edit: LOL Twitchy beat me by an hour.

What he meant to say is if you are a racist sexist superficial cunt first rather than voting for some one who is most capable, that is the inevitable result. No one checks all the boxes everyone wants, the inevitable result of voting for form over function is the output manifests similar shortcomings.
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