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February 26, 2019, 01:42:06 PM
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Aside from Pascal Coin which can only be mined efficiently with CPU power, are there any good ones that CPU miners can mine?

Say, a machine with 72 to 128 CPUs.

Would like to try something interesting and actually get some shares and maybe a couple of coins.

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February 26, 2019, 02:00:31 PM
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Check this 2 sites that I found in google below.

http://cpucoinlist.com/
https://newcpucoins.com/

I don't find any other source if what are CPU minable coins you able to mine.
And I think most of the CPU miner stay mining with XMR.
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February 26, 2019, 02:13:32 PM
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Yeah I'm pretty sure you'll want to stick with Monero, that has been the best cpu coin for a while.

Isn't that being completely savaged by ASIC's right now, with months until it can be corrected?!
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February 26, 2019, 02:17:53 PM
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Monero and Bytecoin are the most famous coins in Cpu mining arena and I already envy your setup of 128 Cpu-s.

If you start mining with them you would do a big favour to yourself, trust me on that, if you have cheap electricity.

Monero has been taken over by Asics but some other forms of Cryptonight like V8 heavy is still in good condition.

Having all those Cpu-s and keeping them idle is not a very productive thing to do.

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February 26, 2019, 06:02:00 PM
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Your about 9 years too late if your trying to mine with a CPU.....

Even the GPU days are dying with Monero and Ethereum getting invaded with asics and the problem is only getting worse.
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February 26, 2019, 06:17:40 PM
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but ETH fork to kill ASICs is in 2 days. Monero in 2-3 weeks. Don't remember the date
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February 26, 2019, 07:30:12 PM
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the postponed Constantinopole update is scheduled for 28th feb if i am not mistaken
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February 26, 2019, 10:42:34 PM
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Your about 9 years too late if your trying to mine with a CPU.....

Even the GPU days are dying with Monero and Ethereum getting invaded with asics and the problem is only getting worse.
Note he didn't say he was going to mine with "a CPU"...

He said he was going to mine with 72 to 128 muthafukkin' CPUs!! Grin


There's a slight difference there. I bet he'll be making a penny or two.
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February 26, 2019, 10:57:33 PM
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Try UPX.
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March 03, 2019, 08:03:32 PM
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Thanks all  Smiley

I wasn't following the ETH Constantinople thing very well.  Or other coins; I appreciate the links and suggestions.  I follow things as much as I can outside my work and I'm quite a fanatic so I was surprised I only had vague memories of CPU minable coins in one of those links.

Yeah, 72 CPU or 128 CPU rig to begin with, one or the other, I could do 256 CPUs later if it seems worth a try.  I can mine Pascal Coin since it's really only minable on CPUs, but gotta have several AMD server CPUs to justify mining there; it makes money but not quite enough to cover costs unless there's big gains in prices later.  I got into these big rigs since I finished the mining part of my own Pascal Coin miner, and assembling it for testing with the latest testnet.  Should be fun.
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March 03, 2019, 09:30:44 PM
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Your about 9 years too late if your trying to mine with a CPU.....

Even the GPU days are dying with Monero and Ethereum getting invaded with asics and the problem is only getting worse.
Note he didn't say he was going to mine with "a CPU"...

He said he was going to mine with 72 to 128 muthafukkin' CPUs!! Grin


There's a slight difference there. I bet he'll be making a penny or two.
If you aren't profitable mining on one you won't be profitable mining on 128.

Yeah, but I use them for other things I need, and mine sometimes for the fun of it.  So they aren't mining rigs as such, but they do nice work and find a lot of shares even with difficult coins like Pascal Coin.
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March 04, 2019, 02:33:36 AM
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it really is not that big of a deal.... 128 cors really is not a game changer in the least!
with the XEON PHI or many other solutions , that amount of cores is a every day run of the muck machine!
example .  =Dell PowerEdge R820
4 cpu with up to 22 cores each that would give 176 cpu processing threads
up to 1.5 terabyte of DDR4 ram

and that is without adding a xeon phi or other .

as for mining coins ... its awesome to watch it slamm those thread lines in the miner but at the end of the day  you lose money

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March 04, 2019, 09:31:13 AM
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mining with CPU is NONSENSE. It's not profitable.

BTW, a 128 cpu computer can be a Supercomputer. I don't think you are willing to use public or private equipment to try to get money out of it right???

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March 04, 2019, 06:49:13 PM
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Your about 9 years too late if your trying to mine with a CPU.....

Even the GPU days are dying with Monero and Ethereum getting invaded with asics and the problem is only getting worse.
Note he didn't say he was going to mine with "a CPU"...

He said he was going to mine with 72 to 128 muthafukkin' CPUs!! Grin


There's a slight difference there. I bet he'll be making a penny or two.
If you aren't profitable mining on one you won't be profitable mining on 128.

Yeah, but I use them for other things I need, and mine sometimes for the fun of it.  So they aren't mining rigs as such, but they do nice work and find a lot of shares even with difficult coins like Pascal Coin.
Oh I definitely believe you, no one buys 128 CPU to mine. (Is it 128 cores or physical CPU, I think it's coming off as physical CPU but 128 cores feels much more realistic.) The point was it a coin is ravaged by fpga and Asic the difficulty is high so I there is no point in CPU mining it, regardless of how many you have.

Yeah, I have a few with a lot of cores now I use for various things, but I have a machine with 8x Xeon physical CPUs that's quite good for an entry level high compute.  Later I'd like to get into the AMD EPYC CPUs but I don't think I'll be able to do that for a year or so yet.  Each CPU is around $5k I think, I could go slowly with boards in a rack mount that can handle 2x EPYC 7000-series 32-core CPUs and start collecting them.

There are good ways of designing coins that are CPU minable only by having highly serial PoW algorithms, which are amazingly ASIC and GPU resistant, also having high and fast memory requirements where parallelism isn't feasible.  The problem with that is that it can't be too hard otherwise the average person at home can't mine and get any coins.  If they do, those with big rigs will get pretty much all of them.  That's why I like the idea that sprang out of LuckyCoin, the predecessor to DogeCoin (I think...)

So it essentially becomes a lottery coin.  It can be mined on your mobile phone as well.  The PoW rewards according to what random type of selection you make in advance (e.g. 8 hex chars in sequence of the next block hash).  The first to submit with the earliest timestamp wins the block reward.  For a long in-sequence PoW the block reward could be 100 coins; for any 5 out of 10 maybe 1 coin, and a lot of people could share in that.  It would have to be a big or infinite supply coin though, perhaps.  The hard part is how to prevent knowing what the next block hash (double SHA512 of the block) is going to be.  Mobile phone mining could become popular by having an app that submits your hex chars to the network every 5 minutes or so, timestamped and eventually the network will reject submissions and the earliest timestamp with winning "lotto numbers" of the upcoming block hash takes the coins, which could be a lot of people in the case of high probability finds.  Faking the timestamp could be attempted although full nodes would check them out to ensure they seem reasonable, within some condition like timestamp T must be 2 minutes ago < T < 2 minutes before next expected block hash found.  The actual block hashes could only be submitted very quickly within the expected time interval containing the block header and transactions, so there's that option for other miners with electricity to contribute to the network; those finding the SHA512d(block) would always claim an N coin reward.  They would be excluded from submitting lottery mining tickets, though.  This coin would probably still eat a little too much power but otherwise be a lot eco-friendly than coins that consume enormous amounts of power to keep running.

Armagerd it's almost 6am and I'm rambling already.  Grin   
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March 04, 2019, 06:53:08 PM
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it really is not that big of a deal.... 128 cors really is not a game changer in the least!
with the XEON PHI or many other solutions , that amount of cores is a every day run of the muck machine!
example .  =Dell PowerEdge R820
4 cpu with up to 22 cores each that would give 176 cpu processing threads
up to 1.5 terabyte of DDR4 ram

and that is without adding a xeon phi or other .

as for mining coins ... its awesome to watch it slamm those thread lines in the miner but at the end of the day  you lose money
That's why I asked for clarification on whether it's cores or physical cpu. It could be some wild data lab he has with many multiple physical cpu servers.

Not yet but I'm getting there.  The wild lab could be in a year.  Smiley
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March 04, 2019, 07:03:04 PM
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Your about 9 years too late if your trying to mine with a CPU.....

Even the GPU days are dying with Monero and Ethereum getting invaded with asics and the problem is only getting worse.
Note he didn't say he was going to mine with "a CPU"...

He said he was going to mine with 72 to 128 muthafukkin' CPUs!! Grin


There's a slight difference there. I bet he'll be making a penny or two.

You can on rentals with a lot of cores, on occasion.  When the price of Pascal goes up you can get a few in a couple of hours which might cost you about US $10, the idea would be to hold if you think they'll come out of the ~ US 25c per PASC range.  I have made pennies.  Grin  A couple of times a few dollars for beer money, nothing really  worthwhile.

On GPU rigs, I don't think there's anything out there to justify renting big GPU rigs for mining.  GCP have business invoice deals where you can mine all you want with big quota increases but you need the invoice for the year, and have to have spent $2,500 for three months.  That's a bit much to spin up a few 8-GPU instances unless you just get really lucky and recover everything, and profit on top.  The saving grace of GPUs I think are their versatility.  CPUs are out for most, almost everything.  ASICs can quickly become useless and once everyone starts snapping them up, if you're a smaller mining operator then you could be on a losing streak, especially if the coin goes down in a hurry.
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April 06, 2019, 08:29:33 PM
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BiblePay (BBP)

Also CPU Miners Club keeps track of active CPU coins:
https://discordapp.com/invite/cc4jCB6

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April 07, 2019, 09:59:33 AM
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You may try mine Cranpay (CRP) that use YesPoWer algo.
For YesPoWer GPU is slower than CPU.
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April 07, 2019, 10:20:01 AM
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mining with CPU is NONSENSE. It's not profitable.

Depends on the amount of cpus but you wont do it for the gains indeed.

I was interested in this a while ago and ended up with the CryptoNight algo and bittube as coin.
JSEcoin is maybe a coin to look into and test as well, it is a browser based coin but can mine out of a windows application.

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April 08, 2019, 07:51:59 PM
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Last fall I tested TERA https://discord.gg/B8heUUy. The coin has its own complicated algorithm, while it is promising for mining. As now with the mining will not tell you, but I think if you're interested then read their discord. A big plus is that you can immediately sell coins in your wallet for btc without using external exchanges.
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