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March 03, 2019, 07:58:18 AM
Last edit: March 03, 2019, 12:12:16 PM by CryptopreneurBrainboss
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For accuracy, add any three DT members form the list below to your custom trust list.

There are some information that aren't been used as lack of publicity have made it difficult to find. The whole new trust system is no longer a news as numerous thread have been started, explaining how to use it and it's benefits to users.

I came across a thread on meta titled; Should forum persuade users of the merits of customized trust lists? and when you come to think of it, the OP was correct. There isn't enough thread emphasising on the usefulness/benefits of a custom trust list. I can only remember [Explained] Importance of Custom Trust List.

I know as a newbie interested in customizing your trust list it's kind of difficult if you haven't traded with any user to trust their judgement or familiar with the active scammer busters that's where the forum comes in. There's a solution to help you choose the right forum user to improve the accuracy of your trust system.

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To improve the accuracy of the trust system for you, you must select at least three people from the below list who you personally trust. If you don't know any of the users listed, you should pick 10-20 users at random, being careful not to select any users who you know to be untrustworthy.

Here's the list to suggested users from forum

I believe the procedure is self explanatory, you just have to tick the box next to the DT members name you trust and click done then their names will appear on the advance trust list space.

Recommended threads on trust system:
DefaultTrust changes

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March 03, 2019, 11:18:21 AM
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Why would you need to pick 10-20 users when you don't know or don't trust?. It's hard to trust someone here and i do understand your point that you have picked or choose untrustworthy users here in bitcointalk. I'm in favor of the idea in choosing who you trust in that list to avoid adding unknown users in your trust list that is not on the list.

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March 03, 2019, 11:53:53 AM
Last edit: March 03, 2019, 12:16:44 PM by CryptopreneurBrainboss
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Why would you need to pick 10-20 users when you don't know or don't trust?.

Almost all users listed on the list by the forum automated system earned it. If you read the introduction message clearly it say, "The list below is generated automatically, so listed users are not guaranteed to be trustworthy, though the automatic process is very likely to select trustworthy users. If you distrust all of the listed users, enter the name of at least one user who you do trust in the "advanced" trust list at the bottom of this page".
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The list was made to guide forum users on who to add to custom trust list and at least three users from the list should be picked to keep your trust system score accurate.

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March 03, 2019, 12:43:44 PM
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I’m still pretty conflicted with the idea of selecting people from a list as a base to create a trust list, when the majority of people do not know what the trust system is about, not likely care for it, and may just rely on the DT as it is without having to do anything at all.

I normally don’t quote myself, but I summed up my opinion yesterday pretty well:

The current 4.160 Custom Trust Lists are a net 278 up from the toll on the 05/01/2019, so objectively, the changes in the Trust System have not brought along barely any new net Custom Lists. Although the changes really applied on the DT front, there was an encouragement to create our own trust lists (although with just Meta visibility):

<...> Also, it's best to make your own custom list, and you must do this if you want to be on DT1 <...>

Many of those 4.160 trust lists are related to forum members that are no longer active. For example, I make it roughly around 2.473 belonging to forum members active (logged-in a least) since June 2018, and the number drops to around 1.150 if we consider forum members active during 2019 so far.


Having said that as a general context, I’m pretty sure the vast majority of forum members do not know about Trust, and at best, see some coloured numbers related to profiles, and may know that they originate in something called something like DT or so.

Persuading people to create a custom trust list is perhaps not a great idea. Many may not engage or interact with others enough to trust them (their judgment in principle), and getting them to create a trust list may have even the opposite effect of what could be considered a good move.

If people were to create custom trust lists under some sort of pressure, rather than a self-aware decision process, and include a few people that the interact with, everyone would be seeing different versions on the trust score numbers, and only if they drill-down to the ratings (both trust and untrusted) would they get a cleared picture. For the vast majority, I’d say having a DT view will suit their needs best (which in general are none).

Where I’m getting at is that I’d say it is way better to have a DT trust view, than a very small trust view with a not too good a choice custom list member composition.

Taken to an extreme, if Custom Trust lists were to be mandatory from a certain rank onwards (or activity), people may end up copy/pasting other people’s trust lists just to comply. The most popular copied trust list would be a sort of DT-alt set of forum members.

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March 03, 2019, 12:45:29 PM
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I know as a newbie interested in customizing your trust list it's kind of difficult if you haven't traded with any user to trust their judgement or familiar with the active scammer busters

From previous threads on this topic, I understand that a custom trust list does not comprise of people who you trust in trades, but members whose judgement you trust and recognize their ability to make important decisions without bias or prejudice.
For members you trust you can leave a positive feedback.

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March 03, 2019, 01:00:36 PM
Last edit: March 03, 2019, 01:17:43 PM by CryptopreneurBrainboss
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I know as a newbie interested in customizing your trust list it's kind of difficult if you haven't traded with any user to trust their judgement or familiar with the active scammer busters

From previous threads on this topic, I understand that a custom trust list does not comprise of people who you trust in trades, but members whose judgement you trust and recognize their ability to make important decisions without bias or prejudice.
For members you trust you can leave a positive feedback.

You're correct that's why I included the highlighted part like also you can list members you trade with and trust their judgement on others.

@DdmrDdmr, I believe this list from how I understand it was made to keep the trust system accurate. You are free to list any member you trust on your custom trust list but as the introduction message says, you should add at least 3 members form the list to keep your trust system accurate.

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March 03, 2019, 08:48:36 PM
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I’m still pretty conflicted with the idea of selecting people from a list as a base to create a trust list, when the majority of people do not know what the trust system is about, not likely care for it, and may just rely on the DT as it is without having to do anything at all.
Agreed. Giving a list of suggested users to pick from was only going to be in the case of removing and replacing default trust, as you can see in theymos initial thread about here: Replacing DefaultTrust.

If your goal is to protect yourself from scammers, then picking 3 users randomly from a selection of users when you don't know who to trust yourself is superior to trusting no-one at all, but far inferior to just keeping Default Trust. While Default Trust still exists, you are far safer not setting a custom trust list until you have been here long enough and know yourself who you would and would not trust, rather than just selecting users you don't know at random and hoping for the best.

Also, the suggested list contains several members who are not DT1 or DT2. You can see the criteria for generating the list in the post I linked to above.


at least three users from the list should be picked to keep your trust system score accurate.
This was only in the case of Default Trust not existing, so you were supposed to add three members rather than have no trust list at all. It does not apply to users who have a fully customized trust list.

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