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March 13, 2019, 02:43:06 PM
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Bank transfers in Canada can be reversed.

Is this actually a verifiable statement?

... I just can't see where the scam attempt is.  Anyone see anything that I'm missing?

Yes.  He disputes the wire transfer after the escrow releases the coin.

As Vod is Canadian too, is his feedback also based on the same belief?

Payments Canada are quite clear that they are not reversible.

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March 13, 2019, 04:34:37 PM
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Is is funny how U.S citizens without base knowledge about the European bank wires or SEPA comment and put rating for something they don't understand.
You can't claim your money back or reverse them.
If you like to start investigation for fraud, in first place, the bank start investigation with economic police.
After at least month investigation there could be result which also do not take the money from the receiver but banks here have their own way to refund money to the seller without taking the money from the receiver.
Only the police can claim that.
But you people still guessing, lying and post false arguments and statements.
Those tags, arguments and statements clearly prove your knowledge about the European payment systems and your IQ.
It is smarter to be silent when you don't know something instead of making yourself look like a fool.
Vod, if you are some good member of this community who spreads false arguments, your words should go from left thru right people ear.
If you like to be useful, not abusive and good member of any community, don't be a prick.
Educate yourself before putting statements.
I do not know and I do not care how and can you reverse payments from Canada and U.S.
I am not focused dealing with people over the sea.
If you like to fight me with proper and proof based arguments, please be my guest to teach me something new about the European bank payment systems.
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March 13, 2019, 06:02:36 PM
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Hey, buddy. I removed my negative trust, maybe you can remove yours from both your accounts? Because otherwise you're acting in bad faith. We're not omnipotent, and we don't know how banks work overseas. Stop being so unreasonable.

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March 13, 2019, 07:11:50 PM
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Hey, buddy. I removed my negative trust, maybe you can remove yours from both your accounts? Because otherwise you're acting in bad faith. We're not omnipotent, and we don't know how banks work overseas. Stop being so unreasonable.
I'm acting in bad faith? Let me ask you something, who go to my topic and abused the trust system first with lies?
If your statements were truth I would take the negative feedback and move on, but you not only abused the trust system but also lied I offer PayPal for bitcoin?
Interesting, even you lied on that, why you don't go after all the paypal-bitcoin threads where you would be right and not lying?
What you want from me and why you lied?
Feel free to apologize and admit that you lied and abused the trust system in first place.
Stand your acts like a man and admit what you've done in first place if you want someone to forgive you.
I wasn't the one lying right?
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March 13, 2019, 08:55:27 PM
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IdiotCoder has already admitted that his feedback was incorrectly placed and has removed it... which is actually pretty rare for "trust" issues on this forum!

Additionally, he didn't abuse anything... his opinion was that he believed you were a scammer... and he gave you a negative rating because of that. This is exactly what the trust system is for:
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"Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer"

What it isn't supposed to be for is "retaliatory" feedback and calling people paedophiles.

Now that he knows that his reasoning for leaving the feedback was incorrect, and has admitted as much, he has removed his feedback... You would do well to do the same.

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March 13, 2019, 09:11:46 PM
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He sent me threatening messages against my physical safety. I'll post after work. He also threatened my life in my reputation thread but staff deleted it.

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March 13, 2019, 09:24:59 PM
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He sent me threatening messages against my physical safety. I'll post after work. He also threatened my life in my reputation thread but staff deleted it.

Report the PMs to admin. If there is actual threat of violence Rambotnic should get a ban.

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March 13, 2019, 09:30:12 PM
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There is no much that can be done to convince him to remove his feedback. Just let it go, his feedback is not trusted by default and I strongly doubt he will be a DT member any time soon.

He sent me threatening messages against my physical safety. I'll post after work. He also threatened my life in my reputation thread but staff deleted it.

If you can prove it, report it to mods and they will ban his account for breaking this rule:
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March 13, 2019, 10:23:14 PM
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If there is actual threat of violence Rambotnic should get a ban.

Do you have proof of that claim or do you just make assumptions and try to convince people about it when repeating it 100 times ?Is this the standard of high ranked DT members you represent ?Or is it your bitch attitude which is coming out again ?

Funny you don't use the same proof standards on your buddies.


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He sent me threatening messages against my physical safety. I'll post after work. He also threatened my life in my reputation thread but staff deleted it.


Are you a trouble seeker who needs babysitting ?
Am asking based on the posts you made on his thread.

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why do all these newbies always get verbally abusive when they get called out for scamming?

Anyway, enjoy your red trust
Didn't he just proofed you are an idiot who made false accusations ?As a DT2 you should be kicked out .I could understand the first mistake but for the second abuse of the trust system i gave you a negative rating.As you clearly proofed you have an ego issue unable to let it go.
Btw what do you call yourself with an account which has only arround 100 posts ?A PRO ?


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Yes.  He disputes the wire transfer after the escrow releases the coin.

That would be nonsense. Wires can't be revearsed without both banks permission.
Direct debit transactions are diffrent however OP never said anything about a direct debit transaction and SEPA is not a direct debit transaction.
Also a direct debit transaction would be needed to be initiated by the seller and not buyer.

So i also can't see any scam attempt at all.

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March 13, 2019, 10:31:38 PM
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I don't see Vod's answer for his abusive, false and fake arguments.
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March 14, 2019, 12:00:02 AM
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He sent me threatening messages against my physical safety. I'll post after work. He also threatened my life in my reputation thread but staff deleted it.
OP, is this true? What PMs did you send him?

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March 14, 2019, 12:33:34 AM
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I don't know this guy is talking about me or someone else, but you can consider all his words as lies.
How you can trust a person who abused the trust system with lies and false arguments?
My topic were never edited and everyone can see that I never ever offered paypal as he stated in his abusive and fake negative feedback he put in me.
I am not sure how that kind of people are allowed to post "trusted" feedback.
The same statement is also for the guy "Vod" who accusing someone without basic knowledge how Bank transfers, Wire or SEPA in Europe works.
How and why that kind of people have any powers ?
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March 14, 2019, 01:09:05 AM
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So, just so everyone is 💯% on the same page, you have sent no PMs to that person?

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March 14, 2019, 01:36:43 AM
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I'm at work. Screenshots coming. The violence threats were deleted but any moderator can check the deletion log

@Thule, I'm not even on DT.

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March 14, 2019, 02:16:01 AM
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@Thule, I'm not even on DT.
Actually, you are... you're on DT2 thanks to gmaxwell.

You can verify this by seeing that the trust feedbacks you have left show under the "Trusted Feedback" section when using the ";dt" view modifier: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=926376;dt


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March 14, 2019, 03:57:13 AM
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Here's the screenshot: https://postimg.cc/7C3MRtpy

As for the threats against my life, they were posted in my reputation thread and deleted by a moderator. Should still be ]in the deletion log.

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Here's the screenshot: https://postimg.cc/7C3MRtpy

As for the threats against my life, they were posted in my reputation thread and deleted by a moderator. Should still be ]in the deletion log.
That screenshot does not have a post/communication by the OP in it. The only post by V-Power deleted recently was in this thread that is entirely unrelated to you...

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Seems like this trust abuser Vod doesn't give a shit about his mistakes and just ruing the forum name.
Vod, admit your mistake and move on like a man, just like the other guy did.
Or you are a pussy and can't stand your faults like a man?
I don't care about the negative rating, I will use middleman for all my transactions but that doesn't change the fact that a liar and abuser have "powers" to spread lies and abuse the rating.
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Here's the screenshot: https://postimg.cc/7C3MRtpy

As for the threats against my life, they were posted in my reputation thread and deleted by a moderator. Should still be ]in the deletion log.
That screenshot does not have a post/communication by the OP in it. The only post by V-Power deleted recently was in this thread that is entirely unrelated to you...

I'm pretty sure Rambotnic is an alt of OP.

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Here's the screenshot: https://postimg.cc/7C3MRtpy

As for the threats against my life, they were posted in my reputation thread and deleted by a moderator. Should still be ]in the deletion log.
That screenshot does not have a post/communication by the OP in it. The only post by V-Power deleted recently was in this thread that is entirely unrelated to you...

I'm pretty sure Rambotnic is an alt of OP.


still i haven't seen the threat to harm your physical health.

Or is the threat to put his cock into your tight little asshole the threat you where talking about ?

I understand it could have a physical damage by destroying your anus ?

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