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March 27, 2019, 02:16:36 PM
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we are not raising money for development


we are not trying to gain investments


Pictures and text doesn't match. Are you sure you are talking about BINcoin?
And, of course, there is always "find Waldo" explanation:
Find at least 1 user who got hurt by us, at least 1!!!!!!!!

Watched the video like three times in a row and I wasn't able to figure out whether it was AC or a dusty-old laptop fan. I need to know the source of that buzzing noise, it's really important.
Maybe he's developing a cloud mining ICO next and that's their farm, an S3 under his desk.
I remember Bruno mentioned something about giant rats, maybe they are cleaning their office https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptAuQcrviWk, rat's hair is everywhere.

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March 27, 2019, 03:57:30 PM
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Pictures and text doesn't match. Are you sure you are talking about BINcoin?

Actually, they do match. Cause if you were really interested and concerned about the project you wold have noticed that we've already developed all the services. ICO if only for giving people a chance to become part of our READY project.  We believed that conducting an ICO as well as been presented here -is really important, but now we can see it was our mistake. We wanted to find an adequate community here and give them an opportunity to try our service and be with us. If conducting an ICO makes us a scam, we can close it...cause we really don't need it as well as your hate


There are so many projects with no developments or products, who have only words, and 1-day websites.....We have products, a real team, we've provided you with registration documents, videos.....dont really understand why are you hating us so much...imao

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And, of course, there is always "find Waldo" explanation:
Find at least 1 user who got hurt by us, at least 1!!!!!!!!




Well, we can see now how objective you are and how are you "not simply hating" if the argument that we have never lied to anyone and never did a fraud - is not counting.....but tell me then what is SCAM? Shouldn't be here hurt investors, or injured parties....cause u pretend to fight for them...


 

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March 27, 2019, 04:18:40 PM
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Ok, watch this at 3:42 https://youtu.be/OYhz_tMqGb0?t=222
Their CEO is trying to rap.

Lord, have mercy!  Cheesy

Nah, I am not buying it, there is too much echo in that empty office, besides, we all know what happened with last office.

Watched the video like three times in a row and I wasn't able to figure out whether it was AC or a dusty-old laptop fan. I need to know the source of that buzzing noise, it's really important.

How did you manage to watch it 3 times Huh
The whole farce is so embarrassing I couldn't last more than 1 minute.

Their whole proof is a guy with broken English who can't complete a simple phrase without going possum for half a minute, taking a video in what appears to be a closet that reminds me of the janitor room from Seinfeld?

But what I find really interesting is those two guys and their links to IcoBench.
Probably bincoin or boocoins or buucoin or whatever is a one-man "company" that ordered an ICO package, the real villains are the ones setting all this crap up.

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March 27, 2019, 05:04:40 PM
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Here is evidence of developers words-you can make sure they are the ones who developed both softs and their mistakes are not our responsibility.

Typical scammer, never want to take responsibility.
So the developer just copied and pasted the Github account? Because Buucoin and Bincoin are the same.

BinCoin Github: https://github.com/bincoininc/BIN
Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20190327005542/https://github.com/bincoininc/BIN

BuuCoin Github: https://github.com/nebcoin/BUUCOIN
Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20190327005553/https://github.com/nebcoin/BUUCOIN


Dont pretend to be a judge here, posting from your hidden account that might be bought
If you want to be called investigators here, show your skills besides "google photo", show your face.

The account is not hidden, it is visible and you can trace all our activities from day 1. But from other hand is kinda hard to keep track of the Deinas since it appears they manage many accounts on this forum.  And again, we dont need to show our face we are not selling anything like you are.
And I dont know what do you mean about " google photo", we have you running around like a chicken without a head, replacing the BUU for BIN, replacing/removing your fake team member, etc. You still need to fix some plagiarism on your whitepaper, and maybe some graphics which are eerily similar or identical to Buucoin:











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March 27, 2019, 06:02:39 PM
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Their whole proof is a guy with broken English who can't complete a simple phrase without going possum for half a minute, taking a video in what appears to be a closet that reminds me of the janitor room from Seinfeld?


Now it is understandable if you watched only half a minute. We provided not only video but links to development company as well as their telegram - so you could ask your questions and not only throw your hate here.



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The account is not hidden, it is visible and you can trace all our activities from day 1. But from other hand is kinda hard to keep track of the Deinas since it appears they manage many accounts on this forum.  And again, we dont need to show our face we are not selling anything like you are.
And I dont know what do you mean about " google photo", we have you running around like a chicken without a head, replacing the BUU for BIN, replacing/removing your fake team member, etc. You still need to fix some plagiarism on your whitepaper, and maybe some graphics which are eerily similar or identical to Buucoin:


The person is hidden, how can we believe its not all your accounts. If you try to destroy peoples work and blame in scum, be brave enough to show who you are....not from a mysterious page with a loud Ethic name. There is NOTHING ethic in your activity.

We admitted our mistakes, we take responsibility for the development team we've hired. They are fixing their mistakes already. We've made a video-apology, registration documents for you here and it's never enough. You just don't see the facts, simply hating. As far as we can see its to difficult for you to admit that you are wrong and you would rather destroy a good project than admit that you are not right here. We've provided the community with ready products, wallets, mobile apps, an exchange that are already working.

We would be pleased to close the thread and leave this hating forum, but we have obligations to bounty participants, which we are not going to break. So we will be here only for them.

Oh fake team member (whose presence we've already explained, and also apologised for hiring)....the reason to think that project is scam. Have you ever seen Satoshi Nakamoto??? well maybe BITCOIN is a scam??? Why don't you write it everywhere Huh

You just keep writing all the same oblivious to the proves we've provided here. Everyone who will come here and read the thread would understand that we are talking the truth. Its really sad that because of you this forum will die, cause nobody would appreciate to do business with haters like you. I see that this discussion won't lead anywhere and everyone is staying under his position, so let's finish it here and let real people decide.

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March 27, 2019, 06:21:27 PM
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There are so many proofs against this project, there is no reason to keep arguing with a wall, except pointing more evidence.
You can try to explain, as you have been doing, but your excuses are just more lies.
Maybe you should consider leaving the forum. Nobody will miss you, your scammy project, and your scammy bumping service.

- Fake Team
- Plagiarized Content (github and whitepaper)
- Possible/probably the same Buucoin
- Lack of responsibility (blaming someone else for the mistakes)
- Scam bumping service


SCAM is the best word to describe this project.



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March 27, 2019, 06:30:02 PM
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With regard to conference that you have spoken about, you can also watch the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGxR_N6hYkk )so you can make sure this wasn’t any spectacle or Smith, but real presentation.
I still haven't heard any explanation with regards to you hiring Zahar and Kseniia Deina who have previously worked on scams. Why would such a "trustworthy" project hire some known scammers in the crypto community? With the video you provided it seems like Zahar Deina a marketing manager is explaining to what it looks like a technical side of the project which seems to be a little odd given that he is only part of the marketing side of the operations. This only means that his role is even bigger than his position and from what I said before the two Deinas might really be the head of this project.



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March 27, 2019, 06:31:18 PM
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How did you manage to watch it 3 times Huh
The whole farce is so embarrassing I couldn't last more than 1 minute.

To tell the truth, I had to watch it two more times today.  Grin

According to Elaunch CEO, BuuCoin client was from the US - "Alexander" (that's a lie, check Buucoin video). Bincoin approached them via freelancer.com last September but I'm pretty sure they've just added both projects to their portfolio recently. Too bad google cache is not working for some reason.

Probably bincoin or boocoins or buucoin or whatever is a one-man "company" that ordered an ICO package, the real villains are the ones setting all this crap up.

What's interesting about this ICO package is that it comes with fake VISA plastic cards, BuuCoin's CEO "Robert Cholewka" even showed what appears to be a fake national ID card (they vanished soon after they were called for fake documents). You don't expect your everyday scammers offering ICO packages/services to have access to these type of additional tools, do you?

By the way, where does one report fraud in Ukraine? Would really appreciate a link.



Zahar Deina and his (sister? wife?) Kseniia Deina are involved in so many scams:

His wife.

I also found where that short video was shot : https://www.booking.com/hotel/ua/verholy-relax-park-poltava.html

Blockchain seminar of some sort.




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Why do all scammers, when they have nothing to say in their defense, always remember the anonymity of Satoshi Nakamoto? How can you compare yourself?
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Their whole proof is a guy with broken English who can't complete a simple phrase without going possum for half a minute, taking a video in what appears to be a closet that reminds me of the janitor room from Seinfeld?


Now it is understandable if you watched only half a minute. We provided not only video but links to development company as well as their telegram - so you could ask your questions and not only throw your hate here.

Some say that the best defense is an attack, but it doesn't work like that around here.
Attacking everyone instead of producing evidence, (that pos video is anything but evidence) is just digging your own hole.



How did you manage to watch it 3 times Huh
The whole farce is so embarrassing I couldn't last more than 1 minute.

To tell the truth, I had to watch it two more times today.  Grin

According to Elaunch CEO, BuuCoin client was from the US - "Alexander" (that's a lie, check Buucoin video). Bincoin approached them via freelancer.com last September but I'm pretty sure they've just added both projects to their portfolio recently. Too bad google cache is not working for some reason.

Probably bincoin or boocoins or buucoin or whatever is a one-man "company" that ordered an ICO package, the real villains are the ones setting all this crap up.

What's interesting about this ICO package is that it comes with fake VISA plastic cards, BuuCoin's CEO "Robert Cholewka" even showed what appears to be a fake national ID card (they vanished soon after they were called for fake documents). You don't expect your everyday scammers offering ICO packages/services to have access to these type of additional tools, do you?

I don't know what to believe anymore with the range of scams I've been witnessing.

Lately in Europe and especially in Estonia is pretty easy to set up a company for a few hundred euros, you can get ID's from black markets cheaper than it cost you to get one official, and I have a custom CC from my bank, for 5 euros I can choose my own skin.
Mine, for example, is full black with only the name the VISA logo visible, (can't show you since it has my full name on it)  Wink and even so it would take only 5 minutes a printer and a logo and some glue to manufacture a fake one.

What made me believe it's some sort of package is exactly the guy in the video.

He is poor scammer material, he has clearly almost no experience, he talks ...like he talks, all this crap marketing, even if poorly done is beyond his skills.

Oh no, you've made me watch it again...noooooooooo!!!



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<Edited highlights>
.... throw your hate here..... how can we believe its not all your accounts....... If you try to destroy peoples work and blame in scum... don't see the facts, simply hating...destroy a good project....close the thread and leave this hating forum.... well maybe BITCOIN is a scam???.... Why don't you write it everywhere ??......we are talking the truth....  nobody would do business with haters like you..... 

ICOBench Rant rating 1.2.

The thing is this.
You've come here with an unoriginal, uninteresting, partially complete cookie cutter wallet/coin project prepared by devs who, at best, create other out and out scams like Buu and leave shitstains all over yours. That you don't notice.
You employ people with unverified identities and you make public contact thru marketing kiddies who spam garbage for any bullshit fundraiser that will pay them. And they do it badly.
When these facts are pointed out with evidence that that's what the situation is, then the people that point it out are "haterzz"?

And you want to use this forum as part of a scheme to take $20m off of investors?
Fuck off indeed.
 

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Pictures and text doesn't match. Are you sure you are talking about BINcoin?
Actually, they do match.
Nop, they don't.

cause we really don't need it as well as your hate

dont really understand why are you hating us so much

Well, we can see now how objective you are and how are you "not simply hating" if the argument that we have never lied to anyone and never did a fraud - is not counting.....but tell me then what is SCAM? Shouldn't be here hurt investors, or injured parties....cause u pretend to fight for them...
Have you just pulled victim card?

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Buucoins used to have multiple addresses located in the US, maybe Bincoins are using one of their offices for free?





For anyone who doesn't want to watch Elaunch's full video, a short, 11 seconds clip here: https://streamable.com/j6xir

(dramatic pause is everything) Grin





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March 29, 2019, 02:11:06 PM
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Their logo same with Bitmart.com.

Are these two projects different or similar?
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Last edit: March 29, 2019, 02:46:40 PM by deception1359
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Confirm. I'm translator and I see Zahar Deina & Kseniia Deina in many project.
I think that behind these two photos is a scam writer/web designer, they use them for many projects to bypass us.

They build many ICOs / websites, and jointly conduct public fundraising simultaneously to get the most money possible, then they will scam those who trust them.

I will never participate in translation if I see those two pictures in a project and then of course I will denounce them.

I have to admit that their trick this time is quite sophisticated. They are ready to create a shirt with another project logo (Bitmart), wear them, entice some of their friends to increase investor confidence. They are extremely professional scammers.

I will pay attention and try to remember other fake members.
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March 29, 2019, 02:36:01 PM
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Their logo same with Bitmart.com.
Are these two projects different or similar?

I don't think there is any direct connection between the two projects, at least I don't see it. Logos though almost identical as a concept, differ in small details. Buucoins entire "project" is nothing short of a well-rehearsed scam. The least of their problems is having supposedly stolen a logo.

Either way, good find.




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March 30, 2019, 03:31:31 PM
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It appears their main thread is dead now. Wondering what happened to that bumping service they had. Maybe they suspended the service for this project since it was caught.

Everyone should add the Deinas to a blacklist. Any project they are involved with is a highly suspicious project /possible scam.

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March 30, 2019, 04:16:18 PM
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They are still going strong on telegram though:

Quote from: BINcoin telegram group, March 29th
This week was full of events. #BINcoin team is now working on service improvements based on your feedback✔️
source - BINcoinOfficial


Call me stupid but I just realized that Bank Independent Network comes from their CEO's name - Leonard Bintolsky.  Cheesy



The question that remains is whether they are going to rebrand buu/bin to another project? I've got a great suggestion for a ticker; BUM as in BUMcoins.




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