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March 15, 2019, 11:55:12 AM
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I still can't see any Amazon/Ebay links... the only "Buy" link I can find takes me to "Weidian.com"... which is all in Chinese Undecided Sad

$20 is a fantastic price point compared to cryptosteel... and I think it's possible you could sell quite a few units... if users can actually buy it! Wink


We are working on that. Will list and paste the link here ASAP. Thanks for your patience.
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March 15, 2019, 12:07:59 PM
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https://m.imgur.com/DrEOCvA

How are the metal plates held together, to stop the whole thing falling apart ?

Is it possible to lock the Frozen Armor with a padlock ?

You can buy a small metal box and lock the Frozen Armor inside. Anyway, thanks for your suggestion, we may consider that in the future.

Is there anything holding the front cover together to the back plate (with the letters)

The back plate is held to the front cover with a metal pivot. This pivot bolt anchors the two sides and allow them rotate on horizontal level.

As for letters, there is another piece of steel grating which covers and fixes the letters after you place them in order; the gratings are fixed by small steel screws.
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March 15, 2019, 03:41:38 PM
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Thanks for the update, yeah you guys really need to update the website shop first, before the amazon and ebay links (I can't buy from either directly anyway, unless you sell on amazon.de). I'd rather shop directly from the website I think most of us would prefer that too (and pay simple BTC please!).

Need to see a full list of characters, and maybe sell together with the updated kit so we don't have to order extra? (this is for the seed memoriser)

I still can't see any Amazon/Ebay links... the only "Buy" link I can find takes me to "Weidian.com"... which is all in Chinese Undecided Sad

$20 is a fantastic price point compared to cryptosteel... and I think it's possible you could sell quite a few units... if users can actually buy it! Wink

Definitely. It even (to me) looks more rugged, while managing to look pretty. That is really a good price, need some video reviews up!


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March 15, 2019, 04:26:29 PM
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Thanks for the update, yeah you guys really need to update the website shop first, before the amazon and ebay links (I can't buy from either directly anyway, unless you sell on amazon.de). I'd rather shop directly from the website I think most of us would prefer that too (and pay simple BTC please!).

Need to see a full list of characters, and maybe sell together with the updated kit so we don't have to order extra? (this is for the seed memoriser)

I still can't see any Amazon/Ebay links... the only "Buy" link I can find takes me to "Weidian.com"... which is all in Chinese Undecided Sad

$20 is a fantastic price point compared to cryptosteel... and I think it's possible you could sell quite a few units... if users can actually buy it! Wink

Definitely. It even (to me) looks more rugged, while managing to look pretty. That is really a good price, need some video reviews up!




https://youtu.be/kgPWEAQVujs

You can take a look at this. Although the voice is in Chinese, you can still find out what will the "Frozen Armor" look like.

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March 16, 2019, 04:38:04 PM
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This looks cool. May I know what is the total cost of one of the seed holders in BTC, including shipping to Singapore? Is it possible to pay you directly? I don't want to miss out on the discount. Also, I can't read the Chinese on your website :sigh: Thanks!
Shipping to Singapore is available. Currently we preparing the listing of the products.
Will update the pre-sale links in this topic within hours. Or you are able to pay through LN next week most likely.

Besides, what is the problem with our website?? Would you describe it more clearly? THX.

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March 17, 2019, 01:16:15 AM
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Apparently this cannot be shipped to my country... from Amazon Sad Undecided

And indiegogo supports shipping to my country but adds US$10 to the price... still, cheaper than CryptoSteel... but starting to push the total cost up a bit. Undecided

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March 17, 2019, 02:49:03 AM
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304 characters / 24 Words = 12-letter word average... not to mention most words need more vowels.
What will you do if a customer ran out of letters to complete his SEED?
  • Will you send him the missing letters for free?
  • Can the customer request for the number of vowels and consonants as he order?

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March 17, 2019, 03:55:21 AM
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304 characters / 24 Words = 12-letter word average... not to mention most words need more vowels.
If you look at the device... you can only store 4 letters per word (this is generally fairly standard amongst all the "cryptosteel"-type devices that I have seen)
Flexible combination: first 4 letters of each word, fix seeds/mnemonics into the strong plates and lock them in a reliable, assuring and elegant manner.


The reason being that, because of the nature of the BIP39 wordlist, 4 letters is enough to identify every word uniquely in the BIP39 list (at least, for the English wordlist).
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https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039.mediawiki#wordlist
An ideal wordlist has the following characteristics:

a) smart selection of words

   - the wordlist is created in such way that it's enough to type the first four letters to unambiguously identify the word


I believe they also stated that the collection of letters they are distributing is based on "use frequency" for English.
And the numbers of the letters are determined by the frequency of the English words in the seeds database.

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March 17, 2019, 06:57:14 AM
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I just placed an order on the site indigogo.

Wait and see...

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March 17, 2019, 08:57:58 AM
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304 characters / 24 Words = 12-letter word average... not to mention most words need more vowels.
If you look at the device... you can only store 4 letters per word (this is generally fairly standard amongst all the "cryptosteel"-type devices that I have seen)
Flexible combination: first 4 letters of each word, fix seeds/mnemonics into the strong plates and lock them in a reliable, assuring and elegant manner.


The reason being that, because of the nature of the BIP39 wordlist, 4 letters is enough to identify every word uniquely in the BIP39 list (at least, for the English wordlist).
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https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039.mediawiki#wordlist
An ideal wordlist has the following characteristics:

a) smart selection of words

   - the wordlist is created in such way that it's enough to type the first four letters to unambiguously identify the word


I believe they also stated that the collection of letters they are distributing is based on "use frequency" for English.
And the numbers of the letters are determined by the frequency of the English words in the seeds database.




Thanks for your explanation.
Indeed, we do have the 255 characters tiles to be engraved according to the frequency of the BIP44 glossary. And there are no two or more words sharing the same first four letters in the glossary. 

We have considered the possible situations and made a satisfactory solution.
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March 17, 2019, 09:00:48 AM
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I just placed an order on the site indigogo.

Wait and see...

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March 17, 2019, 09:16:46 AM
Last edit: March 18, 2019, 06:11:46 AM by BITHD Cold Wallet
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Nice wallet,booked two.

How many uppercase and lowercase letters respectively each one included?


Thank you so much, we provided 255 character tiles. One side of the each tile is lowercase, and the other side is the uppercase.

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March 18, 2019, 05:40:24 AM
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The bithd.com shopping link goes to weidian.com

weidian only ships to China/HK/Macau/Taiwan and only accepts payment by QR code Wechat/Alipay.

Can you be add the 2 and 3 unit options to the Indiegogo page ?

Thank you
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March 18, 2019, 06:17:04 AM
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The bithd.com shopping link goes to weidian.com

weidian only ships to China/HK/Macau/Taiwan and only accepts payment by QR code Wechat/Alipay.

Can you be add the 2 and 3 unit options to the Indiegogo page ?

Thank you
Good news, we have added 2 , 3, 10 units options in Indiegogo:

Seed Strorage-Frozen Razor, A Song of Ice and Fire | Indiegogo
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/seed-strorage-frozen-razor-a-song-of-ice-and-fire/x/20283392#/
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March 18, 2019, 07:17:22 AM
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I just placed an order on the site indigogo.

Wait and see...

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March 19, 2019, 09:50:59 AM
Last edit: March 19, 2019, 12:01:07 PM by Bitpie Wallet
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The beauty of engineering---Frozen Armor internal design
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