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March 19, 2019, 03:47:16 AM
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Before I joined crypto space, I used to watch some series where cryptocurrency is used as a payment for business there.
So I was wondering what is this cryptocurrency till I joined last year.
I have come to understand the reason why these people use cryptocurrency as a medium of payment.
1. It's easier to conceal large sum of money with cryptocurrency.
2. There's no way of tracking or tracing the funds directly to the owner of the wallet in real life.
3. It's actually a safe means of doing payment since you have no need carrying large sums with you.
I frown at number 2 and I ask if there's a way to link one's wallet to his or her real life address?





Basically, we should increase the security of our platforms, to only allow one account per person, not allowing them to duplicate their activity and spread fraudulent activities on the crypto space. In that case, they might be discouraged though.
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March 19, 2019, 06:38:12 AM
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I don't think that there is a way to link one wallet to the real-life address because it just a wallet without any information. Other people don't know who is the owner of that wallet.

It could attract the money laundering to grow, but I am sure that the governments will have a way to detect the fraudulent. The government can watch someone's bank account, and if he transferred a big amount of money, then the government can trace to whom he sent the money. After that, the government will do something with the owner of that account and the person who was receiving the money.

I am sure that the government can take a red line if someone wants to use crypto for money laundering.

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March 19, 2019, 08:05:16 AM
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The few points you mentioned above are part of the main reasons why block chain technology was created, a system of decentralization that provides anonymity for its users and without the interference of third party in which the advantages of these system is far more than the disadvantages, the number 2 you frowned at is just 1 of its little disadvantages which there is no system ever created on earth that is 100% perfect.

Even through the centralize market, a lot of people still finds it easy to conceal large sum of money without being traced. So I really doubt if anything can be done to stop fraudulent people from using the system, just like when it rains or sun, it rain & sun on both evil and bad, the most important thing is to look at the benefit of the system to our own daily life and guard of our investment or money jealously through any mean we can use.

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March 19, 2019, 08:39:44 AM
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Everything returns to the Crypto base, from the beginning of Crypto I thought it was anonymous and people were free to do anything here. I like it here because it makes money without paying taxes to the government. Moreover, this technology is very good and continues to grow.
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March 19, 2019, 08:43:38 AM
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Before I joined crypto space, I used to watch some series where cryptocurrency is used as a payment for business there.
So I was wondering what is this cryptocurrency till I joined last year.
I have come to understand the reason why these people use cryptocurrency as a medium of payment.
1. It's easier to conceal large sum of money with cryptocurrency.
2. There's no way of tracking or tracing the funds directly to the owner of the wallet in real life.
3. It's actually a safe means of doing payment since you have no need carrying large sums with you.
I frown at number 2 and I ask if there's a way to link one's wallet to his or her real life address?




I think it is not, but when you do criminal thing. I read something when i got hacked in Bittrex. They can reveal owner of address's identity only if asked by law enforcer. So i think it is possibly to happen especially a lot of exchanger ask their users to do KYC.

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March 19, 2019, 10:13:33 AM
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Since any blockchain being used encryption on its transaction and it looks impossible to know the real life address except that person was registering on the centralized exchange site that gives KYC as a mandatory for all participants or users.
that's the only possible thing
Provided they carry out the transaction on a centralized market because you will hardly find any fraudulent transaction carried out too on these markets, any fraudulent person will go through other parts of decentralized exchanges and the ones that will not accept kyc. Most KYC are even strictly for the consumption of the exchange and not for public use which the exchange who is also anonymous might not disseminate the information available to him.

The system was just created to create means of convenient transaction though has its securities too to protect people’s fund but cannot detect and filter whoever the user is transacting with, so it is left for the user to be careful of its business transactions.
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March 19, 2019, 10:19:06 AM
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The main reason for me is the lack of third part and low fees. Especially fast blockchain can transfer huge sum of money within seconds, like LTC or XRP. Anonymity plays a great role as well, because some cryptos allow completely anonymous transactions.

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March 19, 2019, 01:15:21 PM
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           Fraudulent people are not discouraged to use cryptocurrency space. Fraudulent people are encouraged to use crypto, precisely because there is no way they can get caught. But cryptocurrency as a payment method offers many advantages. The transaction is very fast and you do not have to spend money with cash. You are right, there is no way to track the funds and I do not think there will be such a thing, unfortunately. This is the only disadvantage of using crypto.

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March 19, 2019, 09:23:08 PM
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For now I don't think there is anyway that fraudulent people will be discourage from using cryptocurrency, the government and other security agencies have not been able to stop all the criminals making use of fiat money to carry out fraudulent activities, how can they stop someone who is making use of a platform that is totally anonymous and transactions can't be traced to anyone.

The last I checked, the crypto market is a free market making it open for everyone including fraudulent people. We just have to be very careful while making transactions.
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March 19, 2019, 09:32:30 PM
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Of course not, because one of the main principles of cryptocurrency is anonymity, and its violation is already undermining the denial of cryptocurrency, but there is another way, if the wallet owner passed kyc, he could leave his data.
Crypto is better as it is. If we pass KYC, there will not be much left about crypto nature. I do not know, but there must be another way to do that, and that should not be KYC.
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March 19, 2019, 10:35:39 PM
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It's possible, but then it would be against the rules of crypto. It was created for the purpose of anonymity and decentralization. So it seems to me that many would be against their addresses being identified.
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March 19, 2019, 11:35:02 PM
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This is decentralization, hard to traced a wallet if the owner makes it untraceable and he is good at doing it, it can only be done if it goes an exchange or the wallet is active in bounty campaign but other than that it's hard to trace a wallet to a specific person.

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March 20, 2019, 12:24:58 AM
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Before I joined crypto space, I used to watch some series where cryptocurrency is used as a payment for business there.
So I was wondering what is this cryptocurrency till I joined last year.
I have come to understand the reason why these people use cryptocurrency as a medium of payment.
1. It's easier to conceal large sum of money with cryptocurrency.
2. There's no way of tracking or tracing the funds directly to the owner of the wallet in real life.
3. It's actually a safe means of doing payment since you have no need carrying large sums with you.
I frown at number 2 and I ask if there's a way to link one's wallet to his or her real life address?



Cryptocurrency created as peer to peer transaction and its decentralized. I think cryptocurrency or bitcoin created because third party like banks not provide a cheap transaction fee and the transaction take a long time. Cryptocurrency offering fast and cheap transaction
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March 20, 2019, 09:21:59 PM
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I frown at number 2 and I ask if there's a way to link one's wallet to his or her real life address?
In case of bitcoin, remember, the transactions made using bitcoin is not anonymous. Rather they are pseudonymous. Being pseudonymous is not the same thing as anonymous. If you are anonymous, you can not (or going to be extremely hard) be tracked. But, on other hand, if you are pseudonymous, you can be tracked if some how your wallet could be linked to something that can led to you (your name, address and other info). Just google it and you will know what I am talking about.

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March 20, 2019, 10:11:09 PM
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Maybe by full regulation or getting every project developer that wants to introduce a product into the market to undergo a kyc/aml process with a centralized body (although it may defeat the purpose of crypto and its decentralization and obscurity features)

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March 20, 2019, 10:29:26 PM
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You wrote it right. Anonymity is an integral part of crypto, but this is what causes distrust of it from other people. Everyone thinks that if crypto is anonymous, it is illegal. However, it is not.

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March 21, 2019, 10:54:37 AM
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Cryptocurrency created as peer to peer transaction and its decentralized. I think cryptocurrency or bitcoin created because third party like banks not provide a cheap transaction fee and the transaction take a long time. Cryptocurrency offering fast and cheap transaction
These benefits are what makes the cryptocurrency more superior to the normal traditional banking systems, and that is why many banks are frowning at it and government not willing to adopt it, because they see it as threat since it is not being regulated and also feel that it is an avenue for a fraudulent person to launder money, and get away with it without being able to trace him.

But I think for now, no fraudulent person will be able to get away using crypto currency because most of these exchanges do their KYC too and  any crypto must also be changed to fiat currency pending when the block chain is fully established an widely used and once the crypto is changed to fiat which will in turn give a large sum of money, the banks will surely query it.
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March 22, 2019, 04:13:56 PM
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Fraudsters use fiat money more often than cryptocurrencies. But for greater anonymity, it is better to use Zcash, Monero, Verge, because Bitcoin's blockchain is open and all transactions are available for viewing, which means that you can be tracked when you exchange Bitcoin for fiat money on a crypto exchange.
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April 02, 2019, 07:51:46 PM
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With the way everything is going , they won’t be going anywhere. But the only way I think they will be stopped is if maybe the government takes over cryptocurrency and requires everyone to confirm their identity before they will be allowed to make use of it lol. Maybe that way a lot of them will run from it. They are making use of it because no one is looking into it and it is hard for them to get caught.
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April 02, 2019, 07:59:08 PM
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- value can change dramatically: maybe you can buy today bitcoin but tomorrow the price could be lower then today Sad
(remember the 20k $ peak?)
- it's a technology hard to use: maybe a criminal want use a complicated system with private keys and etc etc
- it's a pseudo anonymous system: most of coins are not totally anonymous and can lead to a lot of trace
- this is not a mainstream technology, I think that a lot of criminal have never heard about it
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