Hhampuz being campaign manager of casinos with no adress or license

[Thule]

The law of which country?

Any of the world.

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[suchmoon]

The law of which country?

Any of the world.

Go to your local police station then.

[asche]

@Thule if you really want to do something about it, you should just use a whois service and contact abuse@ the domain provider with evidence backing your allegations.

If it is solid enough, sites will get suspended.

[Thule]

@Thule if you really want to do something about it, you should just use a whois service and contact abuse@ the domain provider with evidence backing your allegations.

If it is solid enough, sites will get suspended.

Why don't DT members do the same on ICO scams ?But handle it intern in the forum ?
Again diffrent standards ?

[asche]

Why don't DT members do the same on ICO scams ?But handle it intern in the forum ?
Again diffrent standards ?

DT is not a job. It comes with exactly 0 obligations and duties.

Maybe you should read again how and why someone becomes DT.

Edit: Also there are some DTs and other member of the forum doing exactly THAT.

If you believe this is the right thing to do, stop whining and do it yourself ffs.

[Thule]

Why don't DT members do the same on ICO scams ?But handle it intern in the forum ?
Again diffrent standards ?

DT is not a job. It comes with exactly 0 obligations and duties.

Maybe you should read again how and why someone becomes DT.

Edit: Also there are some DTs and other member of the forum doing exactly THAT.

If you believe this is the right thing to do, stop whining and do it yourself ffs.

I would tagg them but i'm not on default.
If you have an issue beng a DT you can step out any time like Marlborza did.

If you are DT i demand to uphold the same standards on the forum for everyone
I know you are on this forum very short time but let me tell you that forum and crypto was created so every individual would have a guarantee to be treated like anybody else.

You have enough time to post daily but you have not 5 minutes to check my claim.

Shows how legit your posts are

[asche]

I would tagg them but i'm not on default.

SO you thing people tag only when they are on DT? You missed the whole point of what the trust network is. Why should anyone add YOU to one's trust list if you don't post any feedback.

If you have an issue beng a DT you can step out any time like Marlborza did.

Never said I had an issue with it.

If you are DT i demand to uphold the same standards on the forum for everyone

Demanding is all you seem to do.
When it comes to do something right by your own, you are nowhere to find.

Shows how legit your posts are

Talking about legit

I mean if you run with open eyes you can clearly see why they have no company information or license number because they are not running a "fair game" system but are intended to milk their members with unfair games displaying opportunities which in reality are manufactured by their unfair game system.

This is defamation. It shows, again, that you are NOT legit but only yapping around.


And to set this straight for the 10th time at least.

I am DT1 because

• People think my judgement is good, at least the one used for my posted feedbacks
• My trust list is accurate, and the people I added in it are worth being on DT2

This doesn't mean I have to do extensive research on every user I come accross in the forum.
You should wrap your head around this, and eventually gtfo if you do not like how this place is run.

[Thule]

I would tagg them but i'm not on default.

SO you thing people tag only when they are on DT? You missed the whole point of what the trust network is. Why should anyone add YOU to one's trust list if you don't post any feedback.

If you have an issue beng a DT you can step out any time like Marlborza did.

Never said I had an issue with it.

If you are DT i demand to uphold the same standards on the forum for everyone

Demanding is all you seem to do.
When it comes to do something right by your own, you are nowhere to find.

Shows how legit your posts are

Talking about legit

I mean if you run with open eyes you can clearly see why they have no company information or license number because they are not running a "fair game" system but are intended to milk their members with unfair games displaying opportunities which in reality are manufactured by their unfair game system.

This is defamation. It shows, again, that you are NOT legit but only yapping around.


And to set this straight for the 10th time at least.

I am DT1 because

• People think my judgement is good, at least the one used for my posted feedbacks
• My trust list is accurate, and the people I added in it are worth being on DT2

This doesn't mean I have to do extensive research on every user I come accross in the forum.
You should wrap your head around this, and eventually gtfo if you do not like how this place is run.

Let's make some clear points because it seems some soda went up to your head

SO you thing people tag only when they are on DT? You missed the whole point of what the trust network is. Why should anyone add YOU to one's trust list if you don't post any feedback.

tagging someone as non DT is like leaving shit.He doesn't care.DT members posted enough times that taggs from regular members can be ignored as they mean shit. POINT

Never said I had an issue with it.

You have each time an issue with that when asked to act appropiote as DT member handling everyone equal which you are clearly like most DT members not doing

Demanding is all you seem to do.
When it comes to do something right by your own, you are nowhere to find.

I have exposed more real scams than you ever did.What you do is peanuts.I have at least guts and exposed the #3 coin at that time Quark being a scam or Eric GU from Metaverse,Zengold etc scamming his investors for over 10.000 BTC filling police reports taking actions with chinese community and so on.
What did you do ?

Talking about legit

Yes i'm talking about legit or can you show me a single person on that forum who claims i cheated on him ?You as DT members have to uphold rules and standards which you clearly arent doing

This is defamation. It shows, again, that you are NOT legit but only yapping around.

Defamation is a claim which is not true.Since you claim its defamation show me a single point of mine which is not true

And to set this straight for the 10th time at least.

I am DT1 because

• People think my judgement is good, at least the one used for my posted feedbacks

Wrong you are DT1 just because of the people merited you for your actions in the past but not because your judgement is good.I can show people who got nearly 200 merits in a single month and know shit about the forum or its members or standards.You were just lucky to have gained merit where everyone else stated its useless shit.

This doesn't mean I have to do extensive research on every user I come accross in the forum.
You should wrap your head around this, and eventually gtfo if you do not like how this place is run.

No you only search on topic where you can get merits like a merit whore.Uncomfortable topics are nothing for you as you could be easily excluded anytime.
Since you joined that topic with your BS here you got some truth about yourself.[/list]


How much time have you already spent on that thread ?You could have checked my claims already 10 times.

[sirazimuth]

.... (like notbatman hes a fucking 10 TS).

11.... definitely a fucking 11 TS (breaks the scale)

[asche]

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Wow you really tick all the boxes for an unsecure narcissist.

Why this compulsive need to compare yourself to others (myself in that case).

I couldn't give a damn that you uncovered a scam in your life. Cool story bro. Thank you for your service. The fact you need to tell everyone every chance you got shows what kind of a person you are.

What do you expect? To be thanked every day of your life for what you did? Grow up man.

You do things because of what you  believe in, not for others admiration or w/e.

I kinda feel pitty for you.

[TheNewAnon135246]

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Wow you really tick all the boxes for an unsecure narcissist.

Why this compulsive need to compare yourself to others (myself in that case).

I couldn't give a damn that you uncovered a scam in your life. Cool story bro. Thank you for your service. The fact you need to tell everyone every chance you got shows what kind of a person you are.

What do you expect? To be thanked every day of your life for what you did? Grow up man.

You do things because of what you  believe in, not for others admiration or w/e.

I kinda feel pitty for you.

All he wants is attention. He makes baseless accusations against someone to start an arguement. Once they stop replying/lose interest he moves onto the next person. Treat him like a chihuahua, just ignore him and he'll stop barking ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

[cryptohunter]

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Wow you really tick all the boxes for an unsecure narcissist.

Why this compulsive need to compare yourself to others (myself in that case).

I couldn't give a damn that you uncovered a scam in your life. Cool story bro. Thank you for your service. The fact you need to tell everyone every chance you got shows what kind of a person you are.

What do you expect? To be thanked every day of your life for what you did? Grow up man.

You do things because of what you  believe in, not for others admiration or w/e.

I kinda feel pitty for you.

All he wants is attention. He makes baseless accusations against someone to start an arguement. Once they stop replying/lose interest he moves onto the next person. Treat him like a chihuahua, just ignore him and he'll stop barking ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

I can see that thule has made a valid point concerning double standards. I see no possible refutation of that part.

If you can explain how the double standards concern is baseless then I am interested to see what you will present.

Double standards are always worth pointing out since they demonstrate lack of judgement or willful untrustworthy behaviour.

From what I can see Hhampuz is not a trust abuser directly but will still willfully support those that do abuse the trust system. He is more tolerable than the direct abusers themselves but he enables them to abuse so still needs to be held accountable.

If you support those persons on DT that will give out red on a "suspicion" or for a "possible" scam or even just to those that present unpopular facts that happen to be the TRUTH then you behaviour should be judged against those standards.

[marlboroza]

@Thule if you really want to do something about it, you should just use a whois service and contact abuse@ the domain provider with evidence backing your allegations.

If it is solid enough, sites will get suspended.

Why don't DT members do the same on ICO scams ?But handle it intern in the forum ?
Again diffrent standards ?

Why don't you do that?

Go to gambling section and report every unlicensed casino.
Then go to investard based games and report all ponzies.
Then report all tumblers.
Then go to ICO section and report all ICO's which are breaking laws.
Then report all lenders who are breaking laws.
Then go to Bangladesh and report all forum users to police.

Maybe you should just report forum to police?

[cryptohunter]

@Thule if you really want to do something about it, you should just use a whois service and contact abuse@ the domain provider with evidence backing your allegations.

If it is solid enough, sites will get suspended.

Why don't DT members do the same on ICO scams ?But handle it intern in the forum ?
Again diffrent standards ?

Why don't you do that?

Go to gambling section and report every unlicensed casino.
Then go to investard based games and report all ponzies.
Then report all tumblers.
Then go to ICO section and report all ICO's which are breaking laws.
Then report all lenders who are breaking laws.
Then go to Bangladesh and report all forum users to police.

Maybe you should just report forum to police?

Well that is exactly the point. Why "report" or red trust any person or project that is not confirmed as a scam or STRONGLY intending to scam.  You can not have it both ways. I mean if you consider a gambling site with no address , no lic, no ID's for the owners not to be likely to scam then fair enough leave them alone. If they have NOT scammed and  you don't consider them not having any contact details available meets the STRONG threshold for intending to scam, then leave them alone and in peace until issues crop up. Perhaps they have other reasons for withholding their ids that are not related to scamming at all.

I say don't poke your nose into peoples business unless they are scammers or strongly intending to scam. DT's running around being all righteous and actively tagging ANYONE they think could "possibly" be thinking of scamming in the distant future should rather be challenging them and questioning them if they must do something on thread, not just giving out red trust on a hunch because the "offending party" demonstrated some behaviour a DT didn't personally approve of for their own selfish reasons.

The point is you can not have it both ways just because it suits you to.

It is quite simple. Who is more likely to scam.

casino1 - has a lic, known IDS of owners, known address of owners all confirmed.
casino2 - nothing known about the owners at all

Casino2 is more likely to scam or one could view it as more risky. However, that does not mean they WILL scam. If they have been functioning for years then perhaps they will not scam at all. Nobody knows. The person using these facilities should do their own DD.

However, if you are willing to go much further than not tagging but actually to help promote casino2 and not flag it or red tag them then you can not go and support DT's that go and red trust on a hunch or some tenuous and pathetically weak sauce case that "possibly" could suggest they may be untrustworthy in the future. You are sanctioning and approving their actions of preemptive scam tagging for their perceived "risk", but then want to allow "high risk" and promote it when it suits you?

I hope you can start to grasp how that is double standards.

[marlboroza]

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Oh that must be the reason why all these exposed ICO's run away, domains suspended, announcement threads deleted and social media accounts removed.

Stop shitposting.

[cryptohunter]

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Oh that must be the reason why all these exposed ICO's run away, domains suspended, announcement threads deleted and social media accounts removed.

Stop shitposting.

I'm sorry you believe that in anyway answers the question I posed or the situation here. This is why imbeciles must not be merit sources nor DT. They simply do not have the capacity to differentiate between a net positive and net negative post.

How does this in anyway apply to account sellers that are termed "high risk" for scamming? do they all scam?
How does this in anyway apply to people who mistake "scare quotes" for actual quotes when they are mixed in amongst real quotes of what they have said? do they all scam
How does this in anyway relate to people presenting facts regarding wrong doing?

Also I have seen people red trusted for supporting projects that are still running but cast as "possible" scams?


You either wait for PROVEN scams or they demonstrate behaviour that suggests they are STRONGLY likely to scam. Of course there may be multiple signs of icos setting up scams so that would cross the threshold of STRONGLY likely to scam.

Your faux rebuttal only fools imbeciles of your level of intelligence or lower. Stick to debating with those types.

Your problem and most DT's problem is you have zero experience in the ALT section and little experience with the BIGGEST scams. Those setting up a quick exit with multiple signs of scamming are small fry amateurs that would only fool the dumbest and greediest risk takers. You are missing the REALLY damaging scams.

Keep in mind there is a chasm between NOT red trusting them and supporting or promoting.

[yahoo62278]

If you're going to toss some shit at the wall and see what sticks, you at least need to complete your research IMO. You have made this accusation against Hhampuz for 1 reason only. That reason being vengeance. He will not accept you into any campaigns so your mission is to try and smear his reputation.

Finish your research before making a thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3539574.msg37018911#msg37018911  Here you see user 5 0.22 BitcoinVideoPoker who runs bitcoinvideocasino winning a slot in theymos auction for ad slots managed by the forum. So essentially shouldn't you include theymos in this thread?

What about all the users who are wearing the signatures for these casinos? The real question is why did you choose to only go after Hhampuz here? Why didn't you include everyone? You have theymos, the designer who made these casinos signature codes or announcement threads, Hhampuz, and the advertisers. The answer is the same as above. You are looking to smear a manager period.

I am not doing the work to check on the other casinos you mentioned in this thread for you. Just posting the above to show that you only post half truths and try to run a smear campaign against members who disagree with you or do not allow you to make a dollar due to your reputation here. Why would anyone want to hire you if they know this is the type of bullshit they have to deal with? What do you do that is positive for the community or for yourself honestly?

Hhampuz has shown he can manage signature campaigns(even though his way of getting clients is illegal https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5113844.0). Other then this particular issue Hhampuz has conducted himself correctly when it comes to the campaigns he manages.

We as managers get messages from potential clients(or message them apparently lol) and the process starts. We do a little research into the casino, exchange, dice site, wallet, etc. If everything looks on the up and up we start the negotiation process and prepare the campaign. Once we start the campaign for a company if the company is involved in the scamming of participants we as managers immediately STOP the campaign. There is no explanation needed to the company except a link to the accusation. We can choose to pause the campaign and give a company time to explain themselves or end the campaign period. It really depends on the issue at hand at this point.

Now, i'm not saying every scam accusation means immediately stop advertising for a company. Look at Fortune Jack. They have many scam accusations against them. Most of the accusations have been from users who tried cheating the casino through multiaccounts or whatever. If a legitimate scam accusation comes up then it is IMPERATIVE that a manager stop any and all advertisement for the casino and go from there.

I have nothing against Hhampuz and I hope he nor anyone else takes offense to everything I've posted here. It is my opinion that Hhampuz is doing a fine job minus his 1 error that he was punished for. It's just like going to jail. He did the crime, and he did the time. He paid his debt and now let's all move on.

BTW welcome to the -9999 club

[mikeywith]

it's safe to assume that most casinos are shady and unethical at best case scenario, but there is a major problem with your "accusation"

I don't know the accused member, don't think i ever interacted with him, but almost every member here promotes Bitcoin, remind of BTC Ltd. address ? or perhaps satoshi license?

[motienvolam]

Agreed with the very long clarification, so I snipped first part all.

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Sooner or later, next several minutes or hours, Thule will jump up to the top 4, the club of -9999 trust points profiles.
https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=leasttrusted

BTW welcome to the -9999 club

I joined campaigns managed by @Hhampuz, and never got issues with him, both post-checking and time of payments.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

DT is not a job. It comes with exactly 0 obligations and duties.

Maybe you should read again how and why someone becomes DT.

You're absolutely right--DT members are a bunch of individual members, not employees of the forum or cypto police, even though some of them do some scam-busting work.  It's not exactly something that's expected of them.

By the way, you'll never be able to reason with Thule or satisfy him with your logic.  He'll just keep shifting the goalposts and ignoring whatever solid arguments you make.  Don't even waste a keyboard stroke on him or cryptohunter trying to explain stuff that they should know (and probably do, but they do love their trollin').