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July 27, 2019, 08:23:46 PM
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why in the hell isn't this idiot banned from the forums?
do admins exist? or are they paid off by game-protect?
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July 28, 2019, 04:00:49 AM
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why in the hell isn't this idiot banned from the forums?
do admins exist? or are they paid off by game-protect?

Honestly, at this point, IDK anymore why he's able to persist on this forum.

OPs message from 4+ days ago was deleted, along with mine the minute GP jumped into this thread. So I don't know if he just spam reports messages he doesn't like until mods remove, or what.

I won't quote the message to respect the mods authority here. There may have been a reason it was deleted beyond my knowledge. But it's happened multiple times (GP comes to a thread, messages start to get deleted).

It makes zero sense to me why you insist on having their full name on display up there.
How do you know it is their full name?

It makes zero sense to me why you persist it is their full name without showing the proof?

Prooooof, the foreign word on bitcointalk!!! Cheesy

It's honestly despicable how you pretend to be a lawyer, and then pull this sort of shit as retaliatory action. It doesn't matter what the situation is, you never release client information publicly. You pretty much just doxxed your own customer base. How anybody takes you seriously is beyond me.

You have no proof to suggest that isn't the users real name. Do you honestly think any massive/legitimate corporation would release a customers name and then say "well you don't have proof that it's not their name".

You attack casino's for all of their shenanigans, yet you are by far 10x worse.

I'd even argue that what you just did is against BitcoinTalk rules as set out directly by Theymos:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1576015.msg15823315#quickreply

The reason that doxxing has been allowed up until now is that it's occasionally very useful in scam investigations. However, oftentimes doxxing someone is used as a weapon in itself instead of a part of any investigation, and as a result innocent people are sometimes hurt. So to protect the innocent while hopefully not hampering scam investigations too much, here are some new rules on doxxing:

1. Personal information must be confined to the new "investigations" board (under Scam Accusations), which is only visible to Members and above. Personal information is defined as anything which links a user's online identity (username, email, etc.) to their meatspace identity, excluding links that the person himself has posted. It is not allowed to post somebody's personal information in any other public place, including in signatures.
2. It is not allowed to post someone's dox if it is especially obvious that you're just using the dox as a weapon. For example, if there are no remotely-plausible trade complaints, then the person can't be a scammer, and their dox should not be posted.
3. As before, anything that the legacy insecure government/banking system requires to be secret is not allowed anywhere. This includes social security numbers, credit card numbers, and certain account numbers.

This applies retroactively to old posts. If a thread contains a lot of personal information strewn throughout it, then the whole thread will be moved to Investigations. If it's only a few posts, then those will be split off. From now on, it's probably a good idea to create two threads for big scammers: one in Scam Accusations and one in Investigations.

From time to time there may be cases where it is very desirable to publish some results of an investigation. For example, if a class action lawsuit is filed, then the person's username should probably at least be publicly linked to the legal case so that other people can join in. For now, there is no uniform policy for this, and if you need to make some personal info public, post in Meta and we will deal with it on a case-by-case basis.

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July 28, 2019, 04:13:08 AM
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I truly feel bad for the OP in this case. They posted here as they were dissatisfied with GP's progress and/or communication thus far and ended up more or less getting doxxed by GP! From what I can tell, GP had access to OP's real name and personal information, and OP has access to nothing about GP, just hope and a prayer that they are actually doing something beneficial for their case. GP refuses to take responsibility for their own behavior and is instead blaming everybody else for their negative reputation earned on this forum, which now places them as the least trusted member on the forum.

I know the BPIP list shows GP as DT2, however don't be alarmed, this is some kind of glitch on BPIP -- they are not trusted by anyone, and distrusted by 25.

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July 28, 2019, 04:51:04 AM
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I find it rather confusing that game-protect states that they do not collect any personal information about their clients. How exactly can they put forth any kind of claim without knowing anything about the client? Or when time for settlement comes, does game-protect forward the proper forms to the client to fill out and file directly?
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July 28, 2019, 12:59:18 PM
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I’d just like to clear a couple of things up here.
As previously pointed out, I didn’t provide the up front payment to Game Protect to proceed with my case. Someone funded this on my behalf. It was that funder who advised me to start this thread all them months ago in the hope that we may get some more updates. I didn’t even know this forum existed before then.
Game Protect does in fact respond to my emails very quickly when I send them. My only small concern was that I would have to chase every 4-5 weeks for an update or I didn’t receive any information.
Not once have I attempted to ‘bad mouth’ or ‘shame’ Game Protect. On the contrary, I was hoping and still hope that I can have a positive conclusion to my case and then can let everyone on here know and perhaps quash any negative opinions.

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July 28, 2019, 01:52:34 PM
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When I said I wasn’t blaming anyone for being scammed, I meant scammed by the casino in the first place, not Game Protect.

The funder asked me to start a thread on here and I can send you proof of this privately should you wish.

It’s not a lie that I ask you privately by email for an update on my case every 4-5 weeks.
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July 28, 2019, 01:54:46 PM
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I instructed them over 3 months ago and paid 5% of my claim to them up front but am struggling to get any specific information about the progress.

I have to chase them every 3-4 weeks for an update but always get a response which sounds like they're annoyed i'm even chasing...


You publicly confirm that you are scammed!
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So you admit to scamming him?

This is what happened to you. You have been scammed. It's not on everybody's fault, it's your fault

I'm pretty sure i haven't blamed anyone or said it's anyone's fault.
Do you know what the truth is?

If you did not spend the 5%, you can not get scammed for it!

If someone was scammed, then it is the investor who spent the 5%.
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Wrong. Just because someone else funded his case, does not make it the investors case. all details and interactions come from jenniraye88 from the sounds of it.
You're just passing the buck off and avoiding the situation trying to buy time to suck in more desperate people to scam
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July 28, 2019, 03:06:17 PM
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By only reading the OP, I was 100% sure this "Game Protect" thing was a scum without even knowing them!

"up front payment" to do something that has no guarantees, man how did you fall for it? Undecided I hope you didn't pay them much.
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July 28, 2019, 06:45:15 PM
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Some brain washers on bitcointalk.org want to mislead the community, but one part of a scam is always that money or value was lost!

If no money or value was lost, then a scam did not happen! Cheesy

Definition scam: A fraudulent scheme performed by a dishonest individual, group or company in an attempt to obtain money or something else of value.

Yup. You've taken 5% payment upfront from the OP's "backer" and you're yet to show any evidence whatsoever that you're performing the duties you've been assigned to do. Instead you're busy doxing your client? It doesn't matter who paid for your services, you've failed to deliver or show any evidence that you're trying.
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Clarification about this Thread:

Jenni has just contacted me, worried about this case, I would like to clarify several things:

1) I'm (or more precisely we at Get-Paid are) the investors behind Jenni's claim, we funded her claim, we could trace back the BTC TX URL if you want to see it was paid but honestly GameProtect won't deny this was paid.

2) Jenni has just emailed me saying "It’s been 8 months since my complaint and I don’t really know anything that’s going on..... He is obviously targeting me for starting the thread thinking I did it to publicly shame him or something but you asked me to start it to see if we could get some better updates on what was happening".

Yes, I did ask Jenni to use the forum back in March (she started the process in December 2018).

3) Game Protect has helped me with a case and did get me back losses I wouldn't get from anywhere else. Proof:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1535816.msg39659536#msg39659536

HOWEVER:

Whilst I appreciate very much that Game Protect has helped me with my case I find it really annoying that he attacks Jenni for using the forum or accusing her for trying to say things about his service!

And unlike many posters here - no, I am not upset with Game Protect revealing Jenni's information, Jenni doesn't care about it, and it seems like the posts were edited, although making a mistake like this is not a good thing but this can be forgivable ... ANYWAY the main issue is the fact Jenni is worried about not getting her case resolved! (and not doxing her information or revealing information about her!) - that is the main issue, and I kindly ask other forum members to concentrate on this specific issue, and not on any other irrelevant data that is not related to Jenni getting her case resolved.

As far as I'm concerned Jenni is 100% entitled to ask questions about her case, we only got involved from the investment side of things, and if Jenni wishes to use the forum then by all means she can do it. I did advise her to try and ask in the forum about this in order to motivate GameProtect to try and move her case a bit faster and reoprt in the forum (in her thread) accordingly whenever there is an update.

Game Protect - by all means, please provide a proper customer support to your clients, and that's it ... end of story. Jenni nor me have no personal vendetta against you! You have a customer worried about getting nowhere, that's the whole thing - stop making a bubble out of something that is simple and straightforward!

I'm being neutral and unbiased here, I'm not trying to throw any accusations on anyone here. Just reflecting the facts and a good will to help all sides here, as I believe in resolving conflicts and not creating ones if it's not necessary.

PS Game Protect, Jenni started the thread in March, we are now almost in August, understandably some things could take time (I was told the same about my case) - she just wants updates and reassurance her case is being looked after, that's all ... no grumpiness nor grudges or anything else is involved here.

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July 29, 2019, 07:56:50 AM
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Clarification about this Thread:

Jenni has just contacted me, worried about this case, I would like to clarify several things:

For what its worth, I believe GP really did help you and you are only trying to help OP as well -- it was nice of you to front her the money, and I hope things are eventually resolved in the both of your favors.

Having said that, GP is a lunatic and he needs to advertise his services elsewhere. He is not welcome here. Continually harassing anybody who dares to question your business model or actions, leaving negative feedback for dozens of accounts saying they are child abusers, is straight up psychotic behavior.

He is (by far) the least trusted person on the entire forum and there are few people more deserving of a warning flag than he. Its a giant internet out there, he should fuck off somewhere else and stop harassing both accounts at random and those belonging to his critics.

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You call this ^ proof? Come on man. Nobody is going to believe that. Substantial proof would suffice, not just posting saying Game Protect helped me, but I digress.

His treatment of his only known customer is shameful and there is something amiss here. I'm beginning to think this whole thing is scripted and a charade. Looking forward to seeing how it all plays out.
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July 30, 2019, 02:02:58 AM
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The trust of who did I breach and how?

According to this brain wash story, I am the least trusted person on this forum without ever breached the trust of anyone?

You breached the trust of the customer you publicly doxxed on this forum.

How about that?

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July 30, 2019, 03:14:01 AM
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The trust of who did I breach and how?

According to this brain wash story, I am the least trusted person on this forum without ever breached the trust of anyone?

You can be distrusted without having to "breach the trust" of someone. People get the general vibe that you are untrustworthy, and as seen with your handling of this customer's complaint, they are sometimes proved correct.

1) Believing that anyone dealing with Game Protect is at a high risk of losing money means not knowing!

2) Not knowing that anyone dealing with Game Protect is at a high risk of losing money confirms that this is not the case. Because if it was the case, some bitcointalk accounts surley would know it considering how much effort they have put in within the past 3,5 years to lie about and defame Game Protect! Cheesy

3) Therefore, (at least based on real world rules and logic) everyone who believes that anyone dealing with Game Protect is at a high risk of losing money confirms that this is not the case! Grin

Again, this is not how these words work. Just because somebody doesn't "know" something for sure doesn't mean its not true. You can believe something is true without knowing for sure that it is. That's why they are 2 different words. If you keep repeating this illogical premise as logical then it will just be another feather in your insanity cap.

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July 30, 2019, 07:32:47 AM
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Clarification about this Thread:

Jenni has just contacted me, worried about this case, I would like to clarify several things:

1) I'm (or more precisely we at Get-Paid are) the investors behind Jenni's claim, we funded her claim, we could trace back the BTC TX URL if you want to see it was paid but honestly GameProtect won't deny this was paid.

2) Jenni has just emailed me saying "It’s been 8 months since my complaint and I don’t really know anything that’s going on..... He is obviously targeting me for starting the thread thinking I did it to publicly shame him or something but you asked me to start it to see if we could get some better updates on what was happening".

Yes, I did ask Jenni to use the forum back in March (she started the process in December 2018).

3) Game Protect has helped me with a case and did get me back losses I wouldn't get from anywhere else. Proof:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1535816.msg39659536#msg39659536

HOWEVER:

Whilst I appreciate very much that Game Protect has helped me with my case I find it really annoying that he attacks Jenni for using the forum or accusing her for trying to say things about his service!

And unlike many posters here - no, I am not upset with Game Protect revealing Jenni's information, Jenni doesn't care about it, and it seems like the posts were edited, although making a mistake like this is not a good thing but this can be forgivable ... ANYWAY the main issue is the fact Jenni is worried about not getting her case resolved! (and not doxing her information or revealing information about her!) - that is the main issue, and I kindly ask other forum members to concentrate on this specific issue, and not on any other irrelevant data that is not related to Jenni getting her case resolved.

As far as I'm concerned Jenni is 100% entitled to ask questions about her case, we only got involved from the investment side of things, and if Jenni wishes to use the forum then by all means she can do it. I did advise her to try and ask in the forum about this in order to motivate GameProtect to try and move her case a bit faster and reoprt in the forum (in her thread) accordingly whenever there is an update.

Game Protect - by all means, please provide a proper customer support to your clients, and that's it ... end of story. Jenni nor me have no personal vendetta against you! You have a customer worried about getting nowhere, that's the whole thing - stop making a bubble out of something that is simple and straightforward!

I'm being neutral and unbiased here, I'm not trying to throw any accusations on anyone here. Just reflecting the facts and a good will to help all sides here, as I believe in resolving conflicts and not creating ones if it's not necessary.

PS Game Protect, Jenni started the thread in March, we are now almost in August, understandably some things could take time (I was told the same about my case) - she just wants updates and reassurance her case is being looked after, that's all ... no grumpiness nor grudges or anything else is involved here.

Thanks for your time!



The trust of who did I breach and how?

According to this brain wash story, I am the least trusted person on this forum without ever breached the trust of anyone?

What will happen if someone really breached the trust?

Wait, he will become the most trusted person on this forum! Cheesy


and there are few people more deserving of a warning flag than he.
A warning flag about the extreme mental illnes of bitcointalk accounts who believe things without any connection to the reality! Cheesy

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1) Believing that anyone dealing with Game Protect is at a high risk of losing money means not knowing!

2) Not knowing that anyone dealing with Game Protect is at a high risk of losing money confirms that this is not the case. Because if it was the case, some bitcointalk accounts surley would know it considering how much effort they have put in within the past 3,5 years to lie about and defame Game Protect! Cheesy

3) Therefore, (at least based on real world rules and logic) everyone who believes that anyone dealing with Game Protect is at a high risk of losing money confirms that this is not the case! Grin

Focus at the task at hand man.

Fix the situation with the OP before spouting more BS about people being brainwashed. Business first, bitching later. Please. Do your job.

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July 31, 2019, 04:14:37 PM
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anybody with the due diligence to read game-protect's post history would see that they are a parasite. dumbfounding he can still try to solicit business on this forum
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August 01, 2019, 02:05:43 AM
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Yes, everyone can believe whatever he likes, but it is a criminal offense and breach of basic human rights to publicly judge entities based on beliefs!

tell me on what planet it's against the law to have an opinion please. I'm very curious
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August 02, 2019, 04:55:51 AM
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The trust of who did I breach and how?

According to this brain wash story, I am the least trusted person on this forum without ever breached the trust of anyone?

You can be distrusted without having to "breach the trust" of someone. People get the general vibe that you are untrustworthy, and as seen with your handling of this customer's complaint, they are sometimes proved correct.

1) Believing that anyone dealing with Game Protect is at a high risk of losing money means not knowing!

2) Not knowing that anyone dealing with Game Protect is at a high risk of losing money confirms that this is not the case. Because if it was the case, some bitcointalk accounts surley would know it considering how much effort they have put in within the past 3,5 years to lie about and defame Game Protect! Cheesy

3) Therefore, (at least based on real world rules and logic) everyone who believes that anyone dealing with Game Protect is at a high risk of losing money confirms that this is not the case! Grin

Again, this is not how these words work. Just because somebody doesn't "know" something for sure doesn't mean its not true. You can believe something is true without knowing for sure that it is. That's why they are 2 different words. If you keep repeating this illogical premise as logical then it will just be another feather in your insanity cap.
Yes, everyone can believe whatever he likes, but it is a criminal offense and breach of basic human rights to publicly judge entities based on beliefs!

Though requires a functioning brain to understand it and therefore nothing for extemely mentally ill bitcointalk accounts! Cheesy

That is categorically incorrect, and it's surprising you who claims to understand law would actually believe that.

It's not a "criminal offence" to judge someone on a set of beliefs. But then again, you think absolutely everything is a criminal offence. Being a critic to you is a criminal offence, so the bar is set rather low.

What actually could be a criminal offence (or at-least civil) is your defamation of users suggesting they are criminals w/o trial.

Give it enough time, and you might actually see a class-action defamation case targeted towards you on your hands.

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August 09, 2019, 07:35:58 AM
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Clarification about this Thread:

Jenni has just contacted me, worried about this case, I would like to clarify several things:

1) I'm (or more precisely we at Get-Paid are) the investors behind Jenni's claim, we funded her claim, we could trace back the BTC TX URL if you want to see it was paid but honestly GameProtect won't deny this was paid.

2) Jenni has just emailed me saying "It’s been 8 months since my complaint and I don’t really know anything that’s going on..... He is obviously targeting me for starting the thread thinking I did it to publicly shame him or something but you asked me to start it to see if we could get some better updates on what was happening".

Yes, I did ask Jenni to use the forum back in March (she started the process in December 2018).

3) Game Protect has helped me with a case and did get me back losses I wouldn't get from anywhere else. Proof:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1535816.msg39659536#msg39659536

HOWEVER:

Whilst I appreciate very much that Game Protect has helped me with my case I find it really annoying that he attacks Jenni for using the forum or accusing her for trying to say things about his service!

And unlike many posters here - no, I am not upset with Game Protect revealing Jenni's information, Jenni doesn't care about it, and it seems like the posts were edited, although making a mistake like this is not a good thing but this can be forgivable ... ANYWAY the main issue is the fact Jenni is worried about not getting her case resolved! (and not doxing her information or revealing information about her!) - that is the main issue, and I kindly ask other forum members to concentrate on this specific issue, and not on any other irrelevant data that is not related to Jenni getting her case resolved.

As far as I'm concerned Jenni is 100% entitled to ask questions about her case, we only got involved from the investment side of things, and if Jenni wishes to use the forum then by all means she can do it. I did advise her to try and ask in the forum about this in order to motivate GameProtect to try and move her case a bit faster and reoprt in the forum (in her thread) accordingly whenever there is an update.

Game Protect - by all means, please provide a proper customer support to your clients, and that's it ... end of story. Jenni nor me have no personal vendetta against you! You have a customer worried about getting nowhere, that's the whole thing - stop making a bubble out of something that is simple and straightforward!

I'm being neutral and unbiased here, I'm not trying to throw any accusations on anyone here. Just reflecting the facts and a good will to help all sides here, as I believe in resolving conflicts and not creating ones if it's not necessary.

PS Game Protect, Jenni started the thread in March, we are now almost in August, understandably some things could take time (I was told the same about my case) - she just wants updates and reassurance her case is being looked after, that's all ... no grumpiness nor grudges or anything else is involved here.

Thanks for your time!



I feel for OP, and for you and do not approve of all the victim shaming going on in this thread.  You've found your way to a really weird crazy corner of the internet that is far from user friendly for newcomers.

OP should absolutely not feel bad about making this thread.  This thread is not hurting her chances of getting paid.  Scammer 101 is always keep your victims from warning other future victims.  That's why he attacked her and then went back and deleted all of his posts in this thread.

I understand you will remain hopeful for now, but suggest getting some sort of timeline out of him if you can, and if you can't then set one for yourself to see some sort of concrete evidence that he's doing more than just harass the casino with empty threats.  It seems like his only play is to string you along for as long as possible, pressuring you to say nice things about him, or at least not say bad things.  

Please document everything.

And when the deadline passes, please post everything (with sensitive info edited out obviously).

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August 27, 2019, 03:28:21 AM
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@OP + Get-Paid.com, has there been any update w/ regards to this thread.

Has Game-Protect been able to further the case at all?

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