Legendary account banned! [Appeal][3.5 year passed]

[uchegod-21]

I saw in OP that 3.5 years passed. That is a very big time passed and  it takes determination not to have moved on till date. I read from first page and understood that you were banned because of plagiarism and not once and not twice. I can say that you were not a legend when you committed the plagiarism. Because if I see a legendary is being banned because of plagiarism, I will only laugh and move my way.

The moderators do not unban person by pity, they will not say because it has been long you were banned let them unban you. If you have not provided good reasons to unban you, it could remain that way. 3 years is big enough to gather how you have contributed to the forum and present in your appeal.

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[eddie13]

Can you sign a message from an old address?

Unedited post mentioning the bitcoin address: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112783.msg49854731#msg49854731
Bitcoin address: 17MECMPH3haxj9s3xKkqpLnmXvpVhdytf8

That post was created one month before you opened this topic. If your account changed owner before getting banned, the address is most likely posted by someone who isn't the original owner.
Account GreatOrchid was created in 2014, you're showing a post from 2019.

Why did you ignore this question?

Are you the real original GreatOrchid?

If so, tell me.. Who is Lurker?

Lets see if you are really even you..

I have no idea who Lurker is, but eddie13 seems to think you should know.

I would really need to dig hard in order to find any previous old addresses. I haven't much used those wallets since than as most of those wallets were been only used for bounties which were not actually permanent. I don't even have backup from past 4-5 years. But yet, I would try my best to find some oldest addresses and try to find private keys for those.

Now coming back to lurker, he was one of my associate back in the past. I don't know why would that be creating a panic over here. Years passed since we were in last contact and that's why I didn't find replying to this useful. I thought it is nothing to be discussed about.

Pretty good way to tell if your the original, or just an account hacker, if you know things from “years passed”.. That’s the entire point..

Not an extremely satisfying answer, but I say give him his account back with a signature ban..

This forum needs legit users..

[LogitechMouse]

Looks like the owner got his old account back already??
He logged in yesterday.

[GreatOrchid_alt]

Can you sign a message from an old address?

Unedited post mentioning the bitcoin address: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112783.msg49854731#msg49854731
Bitcoin address: 17MECMPH3haxj9s3xKkqpLnmXvpVhdytf8

That post was created one month before you opened this topic. If your account changed owner before getting banned, the address is most likely posted by someone who isn't the original owner.
Account GreatOrchid was created in 2014, you're showing a post from 2019.

Why did you ignore this question?

Are you the real original GreatOrchid?

If so, tell me.. Who is Lurker?

Lets see if you are really even you..

I have no idea who Lurker is, but eddie13 seems to think you should know.

I would really need to dig hard in order to find any previous old addresses. I haven't much used those wallets since than as most of those wallets were been only used for bounties which were not actually permanent. I don't even have backup from past 4-5 years. But yet, I would try my best to find some oldest addresses and try to find private keys for those.

Now coming back to lurker, he was one of my associate back in the past. I don't know why would that be creating a panic over here. Years passed since we were in last contact and that's why I didn't find replying to this useful. I thought it is nothing to be discussed about.

Pretty good way to tell if your the original, or just an account hacker, if you know things from “years passed”.. That’s the entire point..

Not an extremely satisfying answer, but I say give him his account back with a signature ban..

This forum needs legit users..

I'll happily accept a signature ban just to prove my legitmacy.
Glad you're willing to give me a chance.

Looks like the owner got his old account back already??
He logged in yesterday.

https://i.imgur.com/Tt3zKix.jpg

Not yet, users can login to banned accounts but can't post anything.

[LoyceV]

Not an extremely satisfying answer, but I say give him his account back with a signature ban..

Given the level of plagiarism, I'd be surprised to see that happen. The first one (in 2014) might have been okay (it's in blue) if the OP from that topic added that information shortly before he posted it. I can't find anything in archives to tell whether or not this is what happened.
The 2017 plagiarism on the other hand is inexcusable. It's not as if he copied some helpful text from another site, he just copied older posts from the same thread. Cases like that were rampant in 2017, and it's what made me create my plagiarism topic.
I know life in prison is a bit harsh for this, but if users get unbanned just because it was years ago, all bans can be lifted eventually. I don't think that will make the forum any better.

This forum needs legit users..

Agreed.

Theymos always encourages that one mentions how they have positively contributed in the forum in the ban appeal before the got banned

Regarding my contrbutions, I have always exchanged knowledge with people like me who are looking to learn something new. I will continue to do so without any greed.

I think you'll need to do better than this if you want to stand a chance:

If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.

[GreatOrchid_alt]

Given the level of plagiarism, I'd be surprised to see that happen. The first one (in 2014) might have been okay (it's in blue) if the OP from that topic added that information shortly before he posted it. I can't find anything in archives to tell whether or not this is what happened.
The 2017 plagiarism on the other hand is inexcusable. It's not as if he copied some helpful text from another site, he just copied older posts from the same thread. Cases like that were rampant in 2017, and it's what made me create my plagiarism topic.

I won't give any excuses but that was 3 years after I started using this forum. It took me almost 5 years to get acquainted with every rules and once I got to know them, I never broke any.
I deserved a punishment for the mistake done by me in 2017 but isn't 3.5 years enough? Even I do accept a signature ban as a permanent punishment and a learning to be remembered lifetime.

I know life in prison is a bit harsh for this, but if users get unbanned just because it was years ago, all bans can be lifted eventually. I don't think that will make the forum any better.

I'm sorry to say but if everyone has the same thinking than why was law ever made? The criminals should just be shot dead of hung instead of sending him/her to prison.
I specifically do not think the same. Every life should be given a chance. Don't tell me you have never done any mistake. What if you were not given a chance again?

Theymos always encourages that one mentions how they have positively contributed in the forum in the ban appeal before the got banned

Regarding my contrbutions, I have always exchanged knowledge with people like me who are looking to learn something new. I will continue to do so without any greed.

I think you'll need to do better than this if you want to stand a chance:

I'm trying the best I can do and am sure I can contribute to the betterment of the forum in smaller ways.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Man, three and a half years is a very impressive time. I, too, once made a mistake, but the forum was merciful to me. I don't know your future. However, I see those new people who create new accounts week after week. And yet the forum allows them to do this since they are still alive.
I am not calling for breaking the rules, but I have a sincere doubt that people who are passionate about being on the forum will wait three and a half years. During this time, you can become another legend.

[PrimeNumber7]

More than 3 years have passed but still I'm left punished with a permanent ban on my account.
I really wish to join back the forum and be an active member.

I gave my opinion almost three years ago. I haven't seen anything that would change my mind. At this time, it would make the most sense to allow you to create a new account and to agree that doing so would not violate the ban evasion rule.

Given the lack of action and the length of time since you opened this thread, I think it is unlikely that you will have your ban lifted.

Unfortunately, the admins and global moderators rarely comment on these types of threads, so I doubt you will get a response. The ban evasion rule is rarely enforced anyway, especially when the person is not causing major problems.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

OP could have create another account and could make it a legendary account by this time frame without getting noticed by anyone. In an anonymous forum it should not be too hard to stay invisible.

Somewhere I saw few accounts were connected to GreatOrchid. I did not check the credibility but hoping it's not.

Given that this is the only account you have, waiting three and half years to get lifted for a ban and then coming back asking for forgiveness is very rare. It shows the love and passion you have for the account (I am not sure if the passion is same for the community but given the time you waited and coming back it cool).

I think if you should be given a chance.

[Lucius]

Somewhere I saw few accounts were connected to GreatOrchid. I did not check the credibility but hoping it's not.
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I think if you should be given a chance.

The link to that thread is at the beginning of this thread, and I also posted it in my previous post, and it doesn't seem like the OP is innocent when he claims that this is the only account he owns. Too much of this indicates that he is part of an alt farm, and if one account gets permabanned, then all other accounts automatically get the same penalty.

Therefore, it should be clearly clarified here whether it is only about plagiarism or the OP cannot be unbanned because that would be ban evasion?

Now for the good part.

All above accounts stopped posting on the same day. July 21, 2018
All above accounts joined the same campaign on the same day November 11, 2018
All above accounts did the same mistake when joining. They copied the personal text along with the word "personal text"
All above accounts were inactive since their campaign application.

[coolcoinz]

Oh yea, I remember this thread. I thought they were all suspicious because there was a very similar 1 minute gap between their application to the signature campaign and they all made the same mistake in the personal text because the owner was trying to change accounts so fast he or she didn't notice it.
After a while I was sure that all were controlled by one person and were all hacked accounts that used to post in different languages, had a gap in their posts, woke up around the same time and came to the same signature campaign at the same exact time, with the same mistake in their personal text.

OP denies claims that he or she was ever a part of this group, so let me ask this


Are you the only person who used this account since 2014?


When I made the thread about your group, you did not say anything and ignored it, but you obviously saw it because you deleted the evidence that were your posts in the OneHash campaign thread.
You even tried to reapply later in the campaign, got denied and deleted the post. It survived only because it was quoted.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2020019.msg48314817#msg48314817
Why did you delete them knowing the accusation was false and being able to prove there's no connection between the accounts?

It's really strange that these separate individuals who somehow woke up their accounts on the same date, came to the same campaign, wrote with a 1 minute gap from each other and made the same mistake in the personal text, saw that someone accused them of being linked and did nothing. Instead of countering the accusation, they all deleted their posts and even, in some cases, stopped posting.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

[...]

Four Hero, one Legendary five accounts!
If the investigation is true then there will be more two to three accounts. Safe to say all together five accounts. $60/w from each account $300/w. On average 25 posts per week. That's 125 posts. It seems better than a full time job. I am not saying it a bad idea but how it's possible? 😂

The forum is a cash cow LOL

[TheBeardedBaby]

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Four Hero, one Legendary five accounts!
If the investigation is true then there will be more two to three accounts. Safe to say all together five accounts. $60/w from each account $300/w. On average 25 posts per week. That's 125 posts. It seems better than a full time job. I am not saying it a bad idea but how it's possible? 😂

The forum is a cash cow LOL

It will be interesting to see if those accounts had any discussions together, owning so many accounts it's easy to create conversations between them and make those posts counts per week quite quickly. In addition it will be just another nail in the coffin of the "I have only one account" statement.

[FatFork]

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It's really strange that these separate individuals who somehow woke up their accounts on the same date, came to the same campaign, wrote with a 1 minute gap from each other and made the same mistake in the personal text, saw that someone accused them of being linked and did nothing. Instead of countering the accusation, they all deleted their posts and even, in some cases, stopped posting.

OP should at least try to explain whether he is related to other accounts in any way. There are too many coincidences to dismiss this evidence.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

It will be interesting to see if those accounts had any discussions together, owning so many accounts it's easy to create conversations between them and make those posts counts per week quite quickly. In addition it will be just another nail in the coffin of the "I have only one account" statement.

When post count is the only thing in mind then anything can be possible. Creating conversations between their own accounts could be only one of them. Imagine you are required to make make 125 posts a week. That's 17 to 18 posts per day. If you are spending 8 hours then 2.25 posts per hour. Wait! It seems an easy job LOL.

The only problem I see that you can not have a day job and you can not have a weekend. You miss one day, you handle the pressure of additional 18 posts on your shoulder for that week 🤣

[GreatOrchid_alt]

Man, three and a half years is a very impressive time. I, too, once made a mistake, but the forum was merciful to me. I don't know your future. However, I see those new people who create new accounts week after week. And yet the forum allows them to do this since they are still alive.
I am not calling for breaking the rules, but I have a sincere doubt that people who are passionate about being on the forum will wait three and a half years. During this time, you can become another legend.

By no ways, I had any intentions to break any of the forum rules. Even before 2.5 years I received several comments that I was involved in alt farm, etc though these just were allegations which were never proved. I sincerly waited for 3.5 years and what I received in return were the same allegations.

I gave my opinion almost three years ago. I haven't seen anything that would change my mind. At this time, it would make the most sense to allow you to create a new account and to agree that doing so would not violate the ban evasion rule.

Given the lack of action and the length of time since you opened this thread, I think it is unlikely that you will have your ban lifted.

Unfortunately, the admins and global moderators rarely comment on these types of threads, so I doubt you will get a response. The ban evasion rule is rarely enforced anyway, especially when the person is not causing major problems.

I don't want to violate the ban evasion rule even though it is rarely enforced. I have decided to be a loyal member of this forum and actively contribute for the betterment but not by creating any other account.
I would like to take chance even if my chances are not good of lifting ban. I've waited for 3 and half years and I will wait for even longer. I'm sure some or the other day, mods/admins might forgive me and allow me to get back onboard.

OP could have create another account and could make it a legendary account by this time frame without getting noticed by anyone. In an anonymous forum it should not be too hard to stay invisible.

Somewhere I saw few accounts were connected to GreatOrchid. I did not check the credibility but hoping it's not.

Given that this is the only account you have, waiting three and half years to get lifted for a ban and then coming back asking for forgiveness is very rare. It shows the love and passion you have for the account (I am not sure if the passion is same for the community but given the time you waited and coming back it cool).

I think if you should be given a chance.

This forum was the start of my career. I could never forget that. That makes me stand firm with my decision to get back on forum. No matter if I've waited for three and a half years. I will continue to do so until I've allowed to rejoin. I have not and will never create another account. By no ways, I will break any of the rules including ban evasion.

I have the same affection towards the community as I have for the forum. I want to give my best to contribute for the goodness of the community.

Hoping for the admins to allow me join with a signature ban.

The link to that thread is at the beginning of this thread, and I also posted it in my previous post, and it doesn't seem like the OP is innocent when he claims that this is the only account he owns. Too much of this indicates that he is part of an alt farm, and if one account gets permabanned, then all other accounts automatically get the same penalty.

Therefore, it should be clearly clarified here whether it is only about plagiarism or the OP cannot be unbanned because that would be ban evasion?

There are hundreds of thousands of users here. A single mistake can be done by hundreds but that dosen't mean we can corelate those and blame anyone of alt farming.
I clarify that I do not have any relation with these accounts by any ways. GreatOrchid & GreatOrchid_alt are the only accounts I handle.
There have been serious allegations against me from the time I opened this thread but those have not yet been proven. Three and a half years and those allegations still remain allegations only.

It is also clearly mentioned in the warning I receive on my account about me getting banned due to plagarism only. Plagarism is a crime over here but it should also be given a chance. I'm ready to prove myself with a permanent signature ban.

Oh yea, I remember this thread. I thought they were all suspicious because there was a very similar 1 minute gap between their application to the signature campaign and they all made the same mistake in the personal text because the owner was trying to change accounts so fast he or she didn't notice it.
After a while I was sure that all were controlled by one person and were all hacked accounts that used to post in different languages, had a gap in their posts, woke up around the same time and came to the same signature campaign at the same exact time, with the same mistake in their personal text.

OP denies claims that he or she was ever a part of this group, so let me ask this


Are you the only person who used this account since 2014?


When I made the thread about your group, you did not say anything and ignored it, but you obviously saw it because you deleted the evidence that were your posts in the OneHash campaign thread.
You even tried to reapply later in the campaign, got denied and deleted the post. It survived only because it was quoted.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2020019.msg48314817#msg48314817
Why did you delete them knowing the accusation was false and being able to prove there's no connection between the accounts?

It's really strange that these separate individuals who somehow woke up their accounts on the same date, came to the same campaign, wrote with a 1 minute gap from each other and made the same mistake in the personal text, saw that someone accused them of being linked and did nothing. Instead of countering the accusation, they all deleted their posts and even, in some cases, stopped posting.

Much of the answers to Lucius are applicable here.
I've researched the other account you are trying to connect with mine. Those can easily be spotted with language change, verbal changes, etc but can you really spot it with my account?

I'm not sure if those other accounts are hacked but I am damn sure I am the single owner of my account GreatOrchid from the year 2014.

I didn't see any credibility that time and also there were a few allegations coming up so I ignored the thread thinking I would never get back on forum with such serious allegations with are never proven. It kind of disappointed me. No matter how loyal I be, at the end I'm blamed with such accusations which clearly are false. Even today I am replying that these accusations are false but at the bottom of my heart I know no-one would care and would leave me at the current situation with a permanent ban.

My only affection towards the forum forces me to appeal again and again to see if the admins can be soft hearted to forgive me and give me a chance again.

Four Hero, one Legendary five accounts!
If the investigation is true then there will be more two to three accounts. Safe to say all together five accounts. $60/w from each account $300/w. On average 25 posts per week. That's 125 posts. It seems better than a full time job. I am not saying it a bad idea but how it's possible? 😂

The forum is a cash cow LOL

It indeed seems better than a full-time job but I'm not the one involved in it.
If every I though the same than I wouldn't appeal with a permanent signature ban. Signature is the only space allowing to earn a stream of income which I clearly don't want to be a part of.

It will be interesting to see if those accounts had any discussions together, owning so many accounts it's easy to create conversations between them and make those posts counts per week quite quickly. In addition it will be just another nail in the coffin of the "I have only one account" statement.

I myself will dig in more info about any such conversations. I was not involved with these accounts. How can I prove it? The allegations are getting such serious that it might take my life proving these are false.
I would still say "I have only one account." with a fullstop.

OP should at least try to explain whether he is related to other accounts in any way. There are too many coincidences to dismiss this evidence.

I'm really tired of explaining myself. No matter how hard I explain myself, I would always be dumped into false accusations. There is no strong evidence yet my reputation is damaged entirely.

[Maestro75]

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Four Hero, one Legendary five accounts!
If the investigation is true then there will be more two to three accounts. Safe to say all together five accounts. $60/w from each account $300/w. On average 25 posts per week. That's 125 posts. It seems better than a full time job. I am not saying it a bad idea but how it's possible? 😂

The forum is a cash cow LOL

125 posts in a week? I find it hard to believe. But can that be possible to do every week by one person and the person will not go blind from watching the computer screen for that number of hours? If it is not a bot doing it or magic I do not know what else can. This can also be why we find shit and off comment posts from high ranks who are into this because they want to complete the weeks count.

[FatFork]

OP should at least try to explain whether he is related to other accounts in any way. There are too many coincidences to dismiss this evidence.

I'm really tired of explaining myself. No matter how hard I explain myself, I would always be dumped into false accusations. There is no strong evidence yet my reputation is damaged entirely.

Based on Blockchain transactions^[1][2], there's a strong evidence that the accounts are connected in some way, however, blockchain transactions alone may not be sufficient to prove that the accounts are owned by the same person. But, if we add to that the other evidence^[3] presented by coolcoinz …

All above accounts stopped posting on the same day. July 21, 2018
All above accounts joined the same campaign on the same day November 11, 2018
All above accounts did the same mistake when joining. They copied the personal text along with the word "personal text"
All above accounts were inactive since their campaign application.
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...the chances of all this being mere coincidence are pretty slim. There were thousands of active members on the forum. Of course, it is possible that some of them have a similar activity (joined the same campaign, on the same day, after a long period of inactivity) and make an identical mistake when joining, but the chance that these same members share blockchain transactions that connect their addresses, and that they are not related to each other, are almost non-existent.

Now you can try to explain it, or provide your evidence to refute those claims, if you want, but you can't say there is no strong evidence. Well, you can, but that wouldn't be true.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5068434.msg48325655#msg48325655
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125884.msg54145770#msg54145770
[3] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5068434.0

[coolcoinz]

There are hundreds of thousands of users here. A single mistake can be done by hundreds but that dosen't mean we can corelate those and blame anyone of alt farming.

Plagiarism is not just a mistake, it's a deliberate action. Also, it happened twice and the mods decided to give you a pass on the first one, so not a "single mistake".
A single mistake was being greedy and posting in the campaign thread so fast that you didn't notice all your accounts had the wrong personal text.
Your second mistake was deleting all these posts when you were caught.

There have been serious allegations against me from the time I opened this thread but those have not yet been proven. Three and a half years and those allegations still remain allegations only.

They were to the extent of our abilities. What would you want us to do? Come to your house and log in from your computer?
You should understand that circumstantial evidence isn't damning, but when there's a lot of it, it starts to look like you're not being honest here.
Nobody would try to get you banned for having alts, but these accounts we're talking about were hacked or sold and you tried to enter them all into 1 signature campaign.
The evidence, although circumstantial, show you as signature spammer, campaign abuser, account trader and plagiarist.

It is also clearly mentioned in the warning I receive on my account about me getting banned due to plagarism only. Plagarism is a crime over here but it should also be given a chance. I'm ready to prove myself with a permanent signature ban.

True, but you made a thread here for all to see and comment, which means you wanted people to chip in and they did. You avoided confrontation for years about that situation with Onehash and this was a good thread to ask you about it.

Much of the answers to Lucius are applicable here.
I've researched the other account you are trying to connect with mine. Those can easily be spotted with language change, verbal changes, etc but can you really spot it with my account?

Of course, which is why I asked if you were the only person with access to this account.

In 2014 and 2015 you were posting exclusively in altcoin threads. You were talking about mining altcoins, discussing GPUs, console commands for miners, going deep into technical stuff.
Then there's the gap in which I suspected your account changed hands and you say this:

Personally i dont like altcoins, they are so unpredictable and a waste of time. Maybe you are lucky and find out a good one that suddenly did a x10 and you have good money then. But a lot of them dont survive and they may be forgotten.
So i try to stay away from them. The only one that i like is Ethereum, but bitcoin is the most safe if you are gonna have money on cryptocurrencies.

Pretty strange for someone who spent 2 years and wrote over 100 posts in altcoin discussion, don't you think? Of course that's just another circumstantial evidence.

You also must be from the US, right? The 2014-15 GreatOrchid claimed to be.

The moment when the account was sold is August 10, 2017. This is the point at which your account switches styles into this forced signature posting, very similar to that of your other accounts.

But that's not all. Your posts are contradicting each other all the time, which means you either have a very erratic personality, or, more likely, were switching accounts so often that you couldn't remember what you wrote a week or two before.
First you say you dont like altcoins and only have ETH, then a few weeks later yo post that you're buying altcoins and this is the most profitable work you've ever done.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1196225.msg21909589#msg21909589

If readers of this thread have time to spare they can look at your posts from 2014-15 and 2017 and compare them. 2014-15 have a completely different language, style, even spacing.

I didn't see any credibility that time and also there were a few allegations coming up so I ignored the thread thinking I would never get back on forum with such serious allegations with are never proven. It kind of disappointed me. No matter how loyal I be, at the end I'm blamed with such accusations which clearly are false. Even today I am replying that these accusations are false but at the bottom of my heart I know no-one would care and would leave me at the current situation with a permanent ban.

My only affection towards the forum forces me to appeal again and again to see if the admins can be soft hearted to forgive me and give me a chance again.

So, you at that time didn't feel like fighting the accusations and left the forum, but this doesn't answer my question, so I'll ask it again. Why did you delete posts in the OneHash thread?
It looks like you were trying to hide evidence and did that with all the involved accounts, which is just another proof they were connected.

Now we have this:
Your accounts had the same posting gap in 2017
Some of them woke up on the same day, the day when Onehash campaign started.
They posted in the campaign thread within 1 or 2 min between each other which is exactly the time needed to relog, change signature and fill the application with a new name and bitcoin address.
They made the same mistake in the personal text
They all deleted their applications after being caught
They all ignored the accusations
Some of them sent coins to the same address

All circumstantial, right?

[Lucius]

After everything presented in this thread, my personal opinion is that the so-called coincidences are simply too obvious to be ignored and that this whole case is much more than the simple plagiarism that the OP persistently insists on. The activities of the alt accounts clearly show that it was an alf farm, and that OP tried to save at least one account then (3.5 years ago) as well as today.

One way to maybe find out the truth would be for admin @theymos to look at the IP logs from that time and compare the IP logs of all involved accounts. However, in all my time on the forum, I remember only one case when something like that happened and it was publicly talked about (@bill gator case).