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April 01, 2019, 08:58:59 AM
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What happened: Plagiarized Whitepaper

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126669.0
https://web.archive.org/web/20190401065707/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126669.0

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https://mayapreferred.io/
https://archive.fo/2pcZE

Whitepaper: https://web.archive.org/web/20190401065816/https://mayapreferred.io/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/MAYP-final-2.pdf

Plagiarized Whitepaper
Lots of copied text for which there are no links to resources.

all copied phrases have sources
specifically for Joseph R. Cord


1 https://medium.com/@smartleagueitl/the-blockchain-is-an-incorruptible-digital-ledger-of-economic-transactions-that-can-be-programmed-c1963fbad925



2[b]https://www.lawtechnologytoday.org/2018/02/blockchain-and-how-it-will-benefit-the-legal-industry/[/b]



3https://proof.work/2017/08/10/what-is-a-blockchain-dapp/




4https://plus.google.com/107223148841039042152/posts/ZKsDLNV2oZq




5https://www.lawtechnologytoday.org/2018/02/blockchain-and-how-it-will-benefit-the-legal-industry/




6https://blockgeeks.com/guides/dapps/




7https://blockgeeks.com/guides/dapps/



8https://medium.com/@Qubicles/benefits-of-the-blockchain-for-a-decentralized-workforce-aa053d65aa28



9https://medium.com/@Qubicles/benefits-of-the-blockchain-for-a-decentralized-workforce-aa053d65aa28




11https://medium.com/@Qubicles/benefits-of-the-blockchain-for-a-decentralized-workforce-aa053d65aa28






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April 01, 2019, 06:11:27 PM
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Hello, can you please explain how is this plagiarism?

The part you have highlighted is explanation of Blockchain and other aspects, so this is nothing to do with our website or the whitepaper. It's obviously taken from sites you mentioned, because that's where it's explained properly. So how is this plagiarism?

Can you please clarify your point of view?

The only thing to note what you said is that probably we did not give reference that it was taken from there but that is not plagiarism.

So waiting to hear from you and other members.
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April 01, 2019, 06:34:47 PM
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How else is it called copying someone else's text without providing a link to the source? Here on the forum, this is exactly what is called plagiarism.
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April 01, 2019, 06:51:09 PM
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How else is it called copying someone else's text without providing a link to the source? Here on the forum, this is exactly what is called plagiarism.

Every whitepaper has reference from such sources. Blockchain is not created by us. It's a technique and the explanation is used that's available on reputed sources, so what's wrong with that? What is agreed is that reference is missing but that's all.

So your issue is that we should give reference?
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April 01, 2019, 06:57:23 PM
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How else is it called copying someone else's text without providing a link to the source? Here on the forum, this is exactly what is called plagiarism.

Every whitepaper has reference from such sources. Blockchain is not created by us. It's a technique and the explanation is used that's available on reputed sources, so what's wrong with that? What is agreed is that reference is missing but that's all.

So your issue is that we should give reference?



https://blog.saturn.network/advantages-of-erc223-tokens/

Is it also about the blockchain? Do you want me to show you every copied sentence? I will do it easily, and provide links to the source for you. The entire document is not composed by your hands but written off using phrases from the Internet. Where are your own thoughts? Copied a lot.
And here on the forum is not welcome.
And yes, the problem is not with me, but with you.
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April 01, 2019, 07:18:20 PM
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How else is it called copying someone else's text without providing a link to the source? Here on the forum, this is exactly what is called plagiarism.

Every whitepaper has reference from such sources. Blockchain is not created by us. It's a technique and the explanation is used that's available on reputed sources, so what's wrong with that? What is agreed is that reference is missing but that's all.

So your issue is that we should give reference?



https://blog.saturn.network/advantages-of-erc223-tokens/

Is it also about the blockchain? Do you want me to show you every copied sentence? I will do it easily, and provide links to the source for you. The entire document is not composed by your hands but written off using phrases from the Internet. Where are your own thoughts? Copied a lot.
And here on the forum is not welcome.
And yes, the problem is not with me, but with you.

Copied what? These are sources used for every whitepaper. Can you provide me any whitepaper where sources are not used if such things are explained.

I want you to tell me where we copied another Whitepaper? We have used sources for general concept like Blockchain or other aspects. I don't know what you are trying to point out? Every website and whitepaper have it. We are not explaining about our project which we have copied, we are explaining general terms like Blockchain and some you have pointed, which is used in the original format that is available to explain users. Most sites have it on their FAQs section as well.

How else do we explain our users what is Blockchain and other aspects? We have not created it so how exactly do we explain without using the reputed sources? I am sorry but there is no sense in what you are pointing out. Whatever so far you have pointed out is purely upon general terms. If you have seen anything that is copied from any other Whitepaper then please refer to that and we will look into it.
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April 02, 2019, 07:59:49 AM
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How else is it called copying someone else's text without providing a link to the source? Here on the forum, this is exactly what is called plagiarism.

Every whitepaper has reference from such sources. Blockchain is not created by us. It's a technique and the explanation is used that's available on reputed sources, so what's wrong with that? What is agreed is that reference is missing but that's all.

So your issue is that we should give reference?



https://blog.saturn.network/advantages-of-erc223-tokens/

Is it also about the blockchain? Do you want me to show you every copied sentence? I will do it easily, and provide links to the source for you. The entire document is not composed by your hands but written off using phrases from the Internet. Where are your own thoughts? Copied a lot.
And here on the forum is not welcome.
And yes, the problem is not with me, but with you.

Copied what? These are sources used for every whitepaper. Can you provide me any whitepaper where sources are not used if such things are explained.

I want you to tell me where we copied another Whitepaper? We have used sources for general concept like Blockchain or other aspects. I don't know what you are trying to point out? Every website and whitepaper have it. We are not explaining about our project which we have copied, we are explaining general terms like Blockchain and some you have pointed, which is used in the original format that is available to explain users. Most sites have it on their FAQs section as well.

How else do we explain our users what is Blockchain and other aspects? We have not created it so how exactly do we explain without using the reputed sources? I am sorry but there is no sense in what you are pointing out. Whatever so far you have pointed out is purely upon general terms. If you have seen anything that is copied from any other Whitepaper then please refer to that and we will look into it.

When does a content is call plagiarized? When someone copies and pastes and doesn't adds reference to the source of the content. Your also did the same. If there are others following the same then they also should not be trusted with money. It shows how unprofessional you are towards working in your project and gives an idea of character of the team behind.

 
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April 02, 2019, 08:08:12 AM
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When does a content is call plagiarized? When someone copies and pastes and doesn't adds reference to the source of the content. Your also did the same. If there are others following the same then they also should not be trusted with money. It shows how unprofessional you are towards working in your project and gives an idea of character of the team behind.

That's exactly what I want to say.
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April 02, 2019, 08:18:01 AM
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How else is it called copying someone else's text without providing a link to the source? Here on the forum, this is exactly what is called plagiarism.

Every whitepaper has reference from such sources. Blockchain is not created by us. It's a technique and the explanation is used that's available on reputed sources, so what's wrong with that? What is agreed is that reference is missing but that's all.

So your issue is that we should give reference?



https://blog.saturn.network/advantages-of-erc223-tokens/

Is it also about the blockchain? Do you want me to show you every copied sentence? I will do it easily, and provide links to the source for you. The entire document is not composed by your hands but written off using phrases from the Internet. Where are your own thoughts? Copied a lot.
And here on the forum is not welcome.
And yes, the problem is not with me, but with you.

Copied what? These are sources used for every whitepaper. Can you provide me any whitepaper where sources are not used if such things are explained.

I want you to tell me where we copied another Whitepaper? We have used sources for general concept like Blockchain or other aspects. I don't know what you are trying to point out? Every website and whitepaper have it. We are not explaining about our project which we have copied, we are explaining general terms like Blockchain and some you have pointed, which is used in the original format that is available to explain users. Most sites have it on their FAQs section as well.

How else do we explain our users what is Blockchain and other aspects? We have not created it so how exactly do we explain without using the reputed sources? I am sorry but there is no sense in what you are pointing out. Whatever so far you have pointed out is purely upon general terms. If you have seen anything that is copied from any other Whitepaper then please refer to that and we will look into it.

When does a content is call plagiarized? When someone copies and pastes and doesn't adds reference to the source of the content. Your also did the same. If there are others following the same then they also should not be trusted with money. It shows how unprofessional you are towards working in your project and gives an idea of character of the team behind.

Kindly understand there is a difference between what you guys are pointing out. It's obvious that it is MUST to always add the reference at the end, which is missing but it's obvious to understand that the copy part is not copy of Whitepaper, but taking reference from the reputed sources for obvious topics like Blockchain and others. And there is obvious need of which.

So like I said, that's the only problem here. But it's unfortunate that the thread for the first time viewer might feel that we have ripped off the whitepaper from somewhere like some other companies do. We are already trading in the exchanges, so this part is not even into consideration anymore.
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April 02, 2019, 08:42:37 AM
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Lovesmayfamilis, let us know with your views over what's wrote already.

Like you might be able to see there is no exact wrong intention, because the general part is used from reputed sites as explained because it's common and often used by sites in their FAQs, and that's not because most are not capable of putting it in their own terms but it's because the sources used are globally understood.

So we request you to reconsider this thread, as we don't doubt your intention but we wish that you understand the points we are referring towards. If you find any other issues, you can open the thread again and we will be here answering any inquires. Thank you


I would suggest adding up references to the statements in the whitepaper accordingly from the sources where you have copied. At this point I will wait what others think about this after you add up references.

 
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April 02, 2019, 08:50:19 AM
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Lovesmayfamilis, let us know with your views over what's wrote already.

Like you might be able to see there is no exact wrong intention, because the general part is used from reputed sites as explained because it's common and often used by sites in their FAQs, and that's not because most are not capable of putting it in their own terms but it's because the sources used are globally understood.

So we request you to reconsider this thread, as we don't doubt your intention but we wish that you understand the points we are referring towards. If you find any other issues, you can open the thread again and we will be here answering any inquires. Thank you


I would suggest adding up references to the statements in the whitepaper accordingly from the sources where you have copied. At this point I will wait what others think about this after you add up references.

Kindly understand we are already in the exchanges, and the ICO period was finished long time ago. It's not possible to figure out the exact sources for the reference at this stage, because it was created almost a year back. The whitepaper is no longer even used because the more importance is the other documents which are in the site. So there is no way we will be able to figure out the exact sources having it done so much back.

So kindly suggest what do we do? Our stance is very clear that the thing termed is "general" category, which is used by one and all for obvious purposes.
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April 02, 2019, 10:40:13 AM
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ADDED LINKS TO EACH PHRASE

There is still a text, but I do not have time to prove that your white paper is very unprofessional, and it does not have its own thinking. All copied from the Internet.

Every sentence is copied. If you can’t hire and order a professional person to make you white paper. If you regret the money for it, what can you say about your project? How can we trust you?What kind of team do you have? How can we guess just by name? Where are the photos and contacts on social networks? I will not delete anything.
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It's obviously taken from sites you mentioned, because that's where it's explained properly. So how is this plagiarism?

Can you please clarify your point of view?
Did you get permission from where you have copy pasted? If yes then show us evidence. Do you know what is plagiarism? Read below quote:

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"there were accusations of plagiarism"
Did you mentioned on your whitepaper from where you copy pasted. People's are thinking that whitepaper written by team. Is it not cheating that you copy paste from others ?
Who have not enough idea and experience to write a unique whitpaper then we can't expect any good result from them. Op did a good job once again. Tagged by the way.

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Get a life!!!

Our project is already listed and trading on exchanges. It's a shame such people are trying to be Admin, when they have no CLUE about a thing.

We don't need people like you to call our project clean!!! GET A LIFE!
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April 02, 2019, 04:56:31 PM
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Do you even read what you wrote??

And do you actually understand the meaning of Plagiarism, I feel embarrassed to try explain people of your caliber.

Will anyone in their sense put Blockchain as their OWN idea? Or other aspects?
WTF you are talking about? Who the hell told you to direct copy paste allow from other? If you don't have proper knowledge about blockchain technology why you are going to launch token sale? What is the role of your project on blockchain? Token sale isn't for your personal fund raising platform. I will show what was your total cost on your project.

Buy website template: $15
Development of website: $250
Smart contract creation (Token): $5
Plagiarized whitepaper: Free
Domain+hosting: $50
Total cost: $320

By spending $320 you are trying to raise million dollar but you don't know that copy paste other's content is illegal. Why should peoples invest on your project and how your project going to help improve blockchain technology?

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Do you even read what you wrote??

And do you actually understand the meaning of Plagiarism, I feel embarrassed to try explain people of your caliber.

Will anyone in their sense put Blockchain as their OWN idea? Or other aspects?
WTF you are talking about? Who the hell told you to direct copy paste allow from other? If you don't have proper knowledge about blockchain technology why you are going to launch token sale? What is the role of your project on blockchain? Token sale isn't for your personal fund raising platform. I will show what was your total cost on your project.

Buy website template: $15
Development of website: $250
Smart contract creation (Token): $5
Plagiarized whitepaper: Free
Domain+hosting: $50
Total cost: $320

By spending $320 you are trying to raise million dollar but you don't know that copy paste other's content is illegal. Why should peoples invest on your project and how your project going to help improve blockchain technology?

Lol yes, you are master SIR!

A master who don't even have sense to check things! There is no one trying to RAISE a PENNY! The thing is ALREADY trading, and there is no intention of raising anything genius guy!

Maybe exposing the chain of you guys is the reason of your anger!
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April 02, 2019, 05:17:17 PM
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There is no one trying to RAISE a PENNY! The thing is ALREADY trading, and there is no intention of raising anything genius guy!
What does mean trading? Free treading? Isn't trading against bitcoin? So who are the one selling token since you are the one create it? Had you distributed your token for free? Listing on a worst exchange and selling your token is not prove you are legit or you are allow to plagiarized whitepaper.  By the way wondering why I can't found your great token on CMC ?

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There is no one trying to RAISE a PENNY! The thing is ALREADY trading, and there is no intention of raising anything genius guy!
What does mean trading? Free treading? Isn't trading against bitcoin? So who are the one selling token since you are the one create it? Had you distributed your token for free? Listing on a worst exchange and selling your token is not prove you are legit or you are allow to plagiarized whitepaper.  By the way wondering why I can't found your great token on CMC ?

Lol, it's funny to see your desperate attempts at hurting our reputation. TILL NOW, there is no evidence provided of "PLAGIARIZED WHITEPAPER", and I have asked it probably for 7-8 times, and not counting the PMs.

So the exchange became worst  Grin Salute.....

You logic and sense can be easily understood if someone go through the points you actually mentioned and compared it with the actual reality and scenario. However, the fortunate part of this forum is that genuinely good and helpful people are busy into doing something else while that left us inbetween people like YOU who are HUNGRY for Merits!! And that even at the cost of other's reputation.
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April 02, 2019, 07:49:04 PM
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I'm surprised that an accountant of 35 years standing such as Mr. Dahlke would sign a document in the name of a company that doesn't exist, U.K. Finantial Ltd.
Oh and EC1V2NX, that's not a "legal registration" #, that's a ZIP code



Assuming that this is meant to be UK Financial Limited, then it seems that at the center of this scheme is a shell company registered at an agency address in London.
Why London, for an arrangement between a Wisconsin accountant and some Mexican miners?

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U.K. Financial Ltd. is a corporation formed in the United Kingdom, dedicating itself and its business plan to becoming a creator of and holding company for all types of cryptocurrency Investments. Its management experience in the financial arena, particularly with mergers and acquisitions, as well as ventures into the retail space and knowledge of the burgeoning cryptocurrency world, combine to make it an up-and-coming player in the world of digital currency.

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its goal of becoming a well-known name brand such as Visa or MasterCard

With a paid up capital of £1 ($1.31) and the fact that Mr. Dahlke resigned from his directorship last year, this currently seems unlikely.
I wonder if the Mexican miners realize that their agreement isn't worth the paper it's written on?

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To give you some brief idea about Coin Maya LTD – we are one of the largest OTC desks in America specializing in digital asset and commodity trading.

Do you have anything whatsoever to back up that claim?




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April 02, 2019, 07:56:39 PM
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I'm surprised that an accountant of 35 years standing such as Mr. Dahlke would sign a document in the name of a company that doesn't exist, U.K. Finantial Ltd.
Oh and EC1V2NX, that's not a "legal registration" #, that's a ZIP code



Assuming that this is meant to be UK Financial Limited, then it seems that at the center of this scheme is a shell company registered at an agency address in London.
Why London, for an arrangement between a Wisconsin accountant and some Mexican miners?

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U.K. Financial Ltd. is a corporation formed in the United Kingdom, dedicating itself and its business plan to becoming a creator of and holding company for all types of cryptocurrency Investments. Its management experience in the financial arena, particularly with mergers and acquisitions, as well as ventures into the retail space and knowledge of the burgeoning cryptocurrency world, combine to make it an up-and-coming player in the world of digital currency.

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its goal of becoming a well-known name brand such as Visa or MasterCard

With a paid up capital of £1 ($1.31) and the fact that Mr. Dahlke resigned from his directorship last year, this currently seems unlikely.
I wonder if the Mexican miners realize that their agreement isn't worth the paper it's written on?

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To give you some brief idea about Coin Maya LTD – we are one of the largest OTC desks in America specializing in digital asset and commodity trading.

Do you have anything whatsoever to back up that claim?



You can easily confirm it from the said authorities in case there is any doubt about the legitimate part of it.
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