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December 15, 2019, 12:42:05 AM
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Yes, true, and unfortunately, it did not break at 9.96, so it's probably going to turn when BTC does, sometime in the next 7 trading days I believe.  Right now, I would be happy with an open and close below 8.45 to buy back in.
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December 17, 2019, 06:33:22 PM
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Today may well be the day, GBTC is below my target of 8.10 AND its' October low, while the BTC general market has not confirmed.  It's possible tonight may see doji below the Bollinger Band indicating a 88-95% of a major move up on daily BTC tonight.
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December 17, 2019, 08:07:11 PM
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Today may well be the day, GBTC is below my target of 8.10 AND its' October low, while the BTC general market has not confirmed.  It's possible tonight may see doji below the Bollinger Band indicating a 88-95% of a major move up on daily BTC tonight.

Do you have a chart that shows your internal count, or expected price action?

GBTC has indeed caught up to the spot market by breaking below its October and November lows but I'm having trouble counting a complete Wave 5 and thus a complete Wave C. It looks to me like there is still more downside coming.

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December 17, 2019, 10:12:09 PM
Last edit: December 17, 2019, 10:26:59 PM by xxxx123abcxxxx
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COINBASE minor support zones...

Code:
ZONE #1:
    @6478: MINOR C = MINOR A * 0.618
    @6336: MINUTE [c] = MINUTE [a] * 0.382
    @6407: AVG

ZONE #2:
    @5862: MINUTE [c] = MINUTE [a] * 0.050

ZONE #3:
    @5431: 78.6% Fibonacci retracement from 15-DEC-2018 to 26-JUN-2019
    @5389: MINUTE [c] = MINUTE [a] * 0.618
    @5374: MINOR C = MINOR A * 0.786
    @5398: AVG

COINBASE major support zones...

Code:
@5431: 78.6% Fibonacci retracement from 15-DEC-2018 to 26-JUN-2019.
@4358: 88.6% Fibonacci retracement from 15-DEC-2018 to 26-JUN-2019. [WARNING: Bull Market Terminated?]

 
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December 24, 2019, 07:52:22 PM
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2019 Cryptocurrency (Elliott Wave): Christmas Update
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/ef65re/2019_cryptocurrency_elliott_wave_christmas_update/

Summary: Bitcoin remains in a bull market with an outlook to exceed the 2017 high. However, a price move below $5000 suggests Bitcoin is in a bear market, with price headed to break below the 2018 lows. The majority of Altcoins favour an extended bear market unless an intervention can be coordinated. The outlook for the stockmarket, in particular the USA, is extremely bullish.



From an Elliott Wave perspective, two scenarios are under consideration at this inflection point: a continuing Bull Scenario or a Bear Scenario.

In either scenario, the Elliott Wave model proposes a five wave structure, consisting of: three advancing bull market waves, interwoven with two declining bear market waves. Overlaying this model onto Bitcoin suggests:

Code:
Wave-1: the first bull market wave 2010-2013 (1219 days), followed by;
Wave-2: the first bear market wave 2013-2015 (426 days), followed by;
Wave-3: the second bull market wave 2015-2018 (1065 days), followed by;
Wave-4: the second bear market wave 2018-2019 (363 days), followed by;
Wave-5: the third and final bull market wave 2019-?



The five aforementioned have been considered as PRIMARY degree waves —such waves elapse the course of a few months to a couple of years. Each PRIMARY degree wave is constituted of five INTERMEDIATE degree waves; and in turn, so forth into smaller degree fractals.

The Bull Scenario suggests Wave-5 is still underway, with subdividing and extending waves headed for new all-time highs.

The Bear Scenario suggests Wave-5 completed at the 26-JUN-2019 high as a truncated fifth wave failure, and a bear market is underway. The majority of Altcoins favour an ongoing bear market.



Bull Scenario

The bullish scenario suggests a continuing bull market is underway. PRIMARY[5] wave started from the 06-FEB-2019 low, and has completed its first parabolic uptrend labelled as INTERMEDIATE(1) wave at the 26-JUN-2019 high.



Since the 26-JUN-2019 high, INTERMEDIATE(2) wave pullback has been underway and has thus far declined 55% into the low of 18-DEC-2019.

The structure of INTERMEDIATE(2) wave decline has thus far unfolded as three A-B-C waves of MINOR degree as follows:

—Wave-A decline started at the high of 26-JUN-2019 and completed as a complex structure at the low of 23-OCT-2019.

—Wave-B bounce started at the low of 23-OCT-2019 when the market suddenly spiked and surged over 40% within a day —attributed to news of Chinese leader Xi Jinping reportedly stating China should “seize the opportunity” offered by blockchain. The surge was the third largest 24-hour price gain in Bitcoin's history and a simple structure completed at the high of 26-OCT-2019.

—Wave-C decline has been underway since the high of 26-OCT-2019. At the low of 18-DEC-2019, Wave-C reached a Fibonacci 0.618% of Wave-A in length on notable BITFINEX and COINBASE exchanges; in addition, created positive divergence of price against momentum indicators such as the Relative Strength Index on the daily timeframe.

Given the potential of a completed correction as described in the aforementioned A-B-C decline, the market has arrived at a juncture to consider the end of INTERMEDIATE(2) wave decline at the 18-DEC-2019 low.

To provide any credibility to this consideration, price is required to rise from the 18-DEC-2019 low and exceed the high of 29-NOV-2019. In addition, price Is required to unfold in five impulsive i-ii-iii-iv-v rising waves. Thus far as of Christmas Eve, price has risen in one wave from the 18-DEC-2019 low and is below the 29-NOV-2019 high.

Alternatively, the INTERMEDIATE(2) wave decline is still to further subdivide and extend lower. A decline below the 18-DEC-2019 low confirms an ongoing INTERMEDIATE(2) wave decline. The following Fibonacci-based levels may be sought as support zones to conclude the pullback; using COINBASE pricing:

Code:
@5431: 78.6% Fibonacci retracement of the entire INTERMEDIATE(1) wave from 15-DEC-2018 to 26-JUN-2019.
@5374: MINOR C = MINOR A * 0.786
@4358: 88.6% Fibonacci retracement of the entire INTERMEDIATE(1) wave from 15-DEC-2018 to 26-JUN-2019. [WARNING: Bull Market Terminated?]



Using the Greyscale Bitcoin Fund (GBTC) as a proxy to Bitcoin, the rise from the 18-DEC-2019 low thus far, as of Christmas Eve, appears corrective. Therefore, price action currently favours an ongoing decline:



Once INTERMEDIATE(2) wave pullback has completed, a rising INTERMEDIATE(3) is expected to commence and resume the bull market. Such a wave is expected to unfold parabolically in nature, and at a minimum, meet or exceed the PRIMARY[3] high set on 17-DEC-2017. In both price and time, this wave is expected to be the longest of the PRIMARY[5] bull market.

Where the PRIMARY[5] bull market ends is open to interpretation and speculation.

From an Elliott Wave perspective: A common wave relationship guides the price of the fifth wave to be equal to; or extend a Fibonacci 1.618 or 2.618 times; the length from the low of the first wave through to the high of third wave; projected from the low of the fourth wave. This provides a conservative target of the current bull market to conclude between $22,912 or $35,127 or $54,892, calculated using the BraveNewCoin (BLX) index:

Code:
@22912: PRIMARY[5] = (PRIMARY[1] + PRIMARY[3]) * 1
@35127: PRIMARY[5] = (PRIMARY[1] + PRIMARY[3]) * 1.618
@54892: PRIMARY[5] = (PRIMARY[1] + PRIMARY[3]) * 2.618



As and when the waves develop and progress, and in the event of subdividing and extending waves, revised price targets shall be calculated with renewed projections.



Bear Scenario

The bear market scenario suggests the 2019 bull market was a short-lived affair, and PRIMARY[5] terminated as a failed-fifth truncated wave.

PRIMARY[5] started from the 15-DEC-2018 low and completed at the 26-JUN-2019 high. A Fibonacci 88.6% retracement of this uptrend is at 4350 COINBASE —a decline to this point ought to signal the market has favoured to deflate.



In this scenario, five completed PRIMARY degree waves have completed a CYCLE I wave structure. And now, a CYCLE II wave bear market pullback is underway and headed to break below the 2018 low.



The wider cryptocurrency market in terms of the Altcoins currently appear to support the outlook of a bear market. So far in 2019, the price structure of majority Altcoins has seemingly unfolded in corrective A-B-C advancing waves, instead of impulsive 1-2-3-4-5 waves. This suggests the majority of Altcoins may be set to break their respective 2018 lows unless an intervention can be coordinated…









Stockmarket

The outlook for the major global equity stockmarkets, in particular the USA, is extremely bullish.

From the 2009 low of the great financial crises, the Dow Jones Industrial Average index has risen in four PRIMARY degree waves, with a fifth and final rising wave underway which began from the low of 2018.

In 2020, the stockmarket will be entering its 11th bull market year since the low of 2009. Fibonacci numbers next in sequence are 13, 21, 34. Therefore, the stockmarket isn’t likely to run into major headwinds until 2022; or until 2030 if the bull market extends to 21 years:





Since the Brexit vote in 2016, the UK FTSE100 has been directionless. With clarity now emerging on Brexit since the 12-DEC-2019 UK election, the FTSE100 is poised to resume a strong bull market:





Analysis is purely speculative, and projections are indicative of price & structure, not time. Merry Christmas!
 
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December 24, 2019, 08:43:13 PM
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Summary: Bitcoin remains in a bull market with an outlook to exceed the 2017 high. However, a price move below $5000 suggests Bitcoin is in a bear market, with price headed to break below the 2018 lows. The majority of Altcoins favour an extended bear market unless an intervention can be coordinated. The outlook for the stockmarket, in particular the USA, is extremely bullish.

Thank you for the update! My overall outlook agrees that we have either completed, or nearly completed, an intermediate Wave 2. The bullish stock market is an excellent backdrop for a continued BTCUSD bull market as well.

The wider cryptocurrency market in terms of the Altcoins currently appear to support the outlook of a bear market. So far in 2019, the price structure of majority Altcoins has seemingly unfolded in corrective A-B-C advancing waves, instead of impulsive 1-2-3-4-5 waves. This suggests the majority of Altcoins may be set to break their respective 2018 lows unless an intervention can be coordinated…

Altcoins are heavily correlated to BTCUSD. This correlation will likely come into play here. A resumption of the BTC bull market will overrule negative sentiment in the altcoin markets. I believe the same thinking applies to GBTC.

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January 09, 2020, 03:57:49 PM
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Thanks again for the update, really appreciate it,
I believe that the WXY scenario is more likely -especially- for the altcoins.

I am wondering why you take the 5th wave truncated? There is another option such as the truncated 5th wave being the B wave of a huge ABC correction which will lead to the last 5th big bull wave.
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January 09, 2020, 07:51:22 PM
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Thanks again for the update, really appreciate it,
I believe that the WXY scenario is more likely -especially- for the altcoins.

I am wondering why you take the 5th wave truncated? There is another option such as the truncated 5th wave being the B wave of a huge ABC correction which will lead to the last 5th big bull wave.

The following illustrates your suggestion:



The above projection suggests PRIMARY[3] completed at the high of 2017, and a PRIMARY[4] decline is still currently ongoing and underway, with a final PRIMARY[5] rise yet to commence.

This suggestion is unlikely because:

—In both price and time, the decline from 2017-2019 is equivalent to 2013-2015; hence, both of these declines are suited to equivalent wave degrees:

Code:
Wave-1: the first bull market wave 2010-2013 (1219 days), followed by;
Wave-2: the first bear market wave 2013-2015 (426 days), followed by;
Wave-3: the second bull market wave 2015-2017 (1065 days), followed by;
Wave-4: the second bear market wave 2017-2019 (363 days), followed by;
Wave-5: the third and final bull market wave 2019-?

—The rise in 2019 thus far has unfolded parabolically in nature and impulsively in a five wave structure —usually uncharacteristic to consider as a corrective B-wave.

—Since wave-4 cannot overlap wave-1, the ongoing PRIMARY[4] decline is required to complete above where the PRIMARY[1] rise ended; i.e. price cannot decline below 30-NOV-2013 high of ~$1200.

In both price and time, a decline below the 2018 lows would be the longest and largest decline in the history of Bitcoin; hence, a CYCLE degree decline would be suited to define the new price action character. Such a decline would likely break below the 2018 lows, but may or may not decline below 30-NOV-2013 high. Beyond this point, whether or not a new bull market commences is an open question....




 
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January 09, 2020, 11:35:06 PM
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Hey xxxx123abcxxxx, any update? The market has roughly followed your December 24th bull scenario, and the internals still appear impulsive to me (for now). I've definitely seen charts that were easier to read though.

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January 10, 2020, 02:41:58 AM
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Hey xxxx123abcxxxx, any update? The market has roughly followed your December 24th bull scenario, and the internals still appear impulsive to me (for now). I've definitely seen charts that were easier to read though.

Insufficient wave development as of second week of JAN-2020, currently appears to be three waves up from the 18-DEC-2019 low, alluding to the following possibilities at this point:



1. [BULL-GREEN]: Three impulsive waves up, with either a fourth wave pullback underway, or a subdividing third wave pullback underway.

2. [BEAR-RED]: Three completed waves up, with a decline set to break below the 18-DEC-2019 low currently underway.

—A rise above $8500 begins to favor the first [BULL-GREEN] scenario.

—A decline below $7500 begins to favor the second [BEAR-RED] scenario.









Summary: Bitcoin remains in a bull market with an outlook to exceed the 2017 high. However, a price move below $5000 suggests Bitcoin is in a bear market, with price headed to break below the 2018 lows. The majority of Altcoins favour an extended bear market unless an intervention can be coordinated. The outlook for the stockmarket, in particular the USA, is extremely bullish. https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/ef65re/2019_cryptocurrency_elliott_wave_christmas_update/



This is a 2019 thread, and hence it can now be closed. At present, current commitments suspend creation of a new thread. Responses to questions/feedback for a limited time. Thank you for the discussion, speculation and shared thoughts. Best wishes for a prosperous 2020, happy New Year!

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Insufficient wave development as of second week of JAN-2020, currently appears to be three waves up from the 18-DEC-2019 low, alluding to the following possibilities at this point:


Agreed, notwithstanding the slight differences in our internal counts. My main concern is naturally that ABC possibility. While (1)/(a) could be counted as an impulse, the proportions lend themselves more so to a corrective count.

If the subsequent leg up had reached the 1.618 extension of (1) then I would be more confident in the bullish scenario. As it stands, it's inconclusive until we see more price action.

This is a 2019 thread, and hence it can now be closed. At present, current commitments suspend creation of a new thread. Responses to questions/feedback for a limited time. Thank you for the discussion, speculation and shared thoughts. Best wishes for a prosperous 2020, happy New Year!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Very much looking forward to your next thread!

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I agree with exstasie, although the degree of this wave may be overstated (I2 s/b Major2, if major is next degree lower).  Both BTC and GBTC appear to have reached secular lows, we'll see how this plays out over the next few days.
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January 23, 2020, 09:52:34 AM
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Happy new year dear Steve and looking forward to the new 2020 Cryptocurrency (Elliott Wave) topic.
The market seems to turn a little bit more bearish than bullish however the market sentiment is neutral and most of the people are really cautious, even the moon boys have some question marks on their heads about the bull run - which means it is more likely now -
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Happy new year dear Steve and looking forward to the new 2020 Cryptocurrency (Elliott Wave) topic.
The market seems to turn a little bit more bearish than bullish however the market sentiment is neutral and most of the people are really cautious, even the moon boys have some question marks on their heads about the bull run - which means it is more likely now -

Thank you, best wishes for a prosperous New Year to you too.

At present, current commitments suspend creation of a new thread and further analysis; perhaps may find the time in Spring.

Appears to be a complete five set of rising impulsive waves from the 18-DEC-2019 low to 19-JAN-2020 high —a solid 1 month uptrend gaining 43%.

Barring any wave subdivisions and extensions, a pullback now appears underway, and ought to find support at the following Fibonacci-based zones, using BITSTAMP prices:

Code:
@7806: 50.0% Fibonacci retracement from 18-DEC-2019 low to 19-JAN-2020 high [MIN]
@7480: 61.8% Fibonacci retracement from 18-DEC-2019 low to 19-JAN-2020 high [AVG]
@7016: 78.6% Fibonacci retracement from 18-DEC-2019 low to 19-JAN-2020 high [MAX]

—The degree of waves from the 18-DEC-2019 low to 19-JAN-2020 high, may be subject to revision.

—A decline below 7000 begins to put the bull market at risk.




  


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January 27, 2020, 10:41:12 AM
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Your analysis is extremely bearish for altcoins, it's the first analysis of that kind I ever saw.
But why not ?
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January 27, 2020, 01:39:19 PM
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I believe there is some solid support in the 8k area right now. If we dont go to 5k by April, we will probably be above 10k, maybe even 12k, which could signal a new ATH until the end of this year.
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Your analysis is extremely bearish for altcoins, it's the first analysis of that kind I ever saw.

That will likely change once BTC enters an obvious new bull market. After all, altcoins are all heavily correlated to BTC. I believe that's sort of what the OP is implying here:

The majority of Altcoins favour an extended bear market unless an intervention can be coordinated.

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BTC (first chart) is required to exceed $9800 to eliminate a potential irregular b-wave scenario; at which point, the count on GBTC (second chart) begins to be favored...




 
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From the 18-DEC-2019 low to the 06-FEB-2020 high, the Bitcoin markets have gained around 50% in 50 days.

—GBTC (1st chart): has risen in five completed impulsive waves, thus completing a potential waveset.

—BTC (2nd chart): has risen in nine waves. The first five completed as impulsive; whilst the remainder of the four wave rise currently appears corrective, and may be thus far, considered as an irregular B-wave rise. The usual allowable extent of an irregular B-wave rise is a Fibbonacci 1.618 times the length of the A-wave. At around $9800, BTC has reached the maximum extent of an irregular B-wave rise.

Barring a wave subdivision and extension, there is now a possibility of a pullback at this juncture; using COINBASE pricing:

Code:
@8157: 50.0% Fibbonacci retracement from 18-DEC-2019 to 06-FEB-2020 [MIN EXPECTED]
@7750: 61.8% Fibbonacci retracement from 18-DEC-2019 to 06-FEB-2020 [AVG EXPECTED]
@7170: 78.6% Fibbonacci retracement from 18-DEC-2019 to 06-FEB-2020 [MAX EXPECTED]
@6824: 88.6% Fibbonacci retracement from 18-DEC-2019 to 06-FEB-2020 [WARNING]





Analysis and projections are speculative.
 

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February 08, 2020, 06:11:03 AM
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Thanks for the update. I'm also counting this as an irregular Wave 2 correction, although there are some differences in our counts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196072.msg53786018#msg53786018

Either way, all signs point to a bullish 2020. Smiley

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