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April 07, 2019, 07:43:42 AM
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Couple of days ago, I wrote a review on a local exchange which was acused of scamming people.
I published the review here in a local forum- http://www.bitcoinbangladesh.info/showthread.php?tid=23

I posted the link to this review here in Bengali local board which has been deleted by thread creator.
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সব বাংলাদেশীদের উদ্দেশ্যে বলছি, যারা অনলাইন এক্সচেঞ্জ ব্যবহার করছেন তারা সাবধান।বেশিরভাগ সাইট স্ক্যাম।সম্প্রতি Paidexbd.com সাইট স্ক্যাম করছে একজনের টাকা।
Paidexbd.com exchange review পড়েন এইখানে- Paidexbd.com Scam | Paidexbd.com Review | রিভিউ

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"To all Bangladeshi, be aware whoever using online exchange for converting BTC to BDT, most of the sites are scam. Recently Paidexbd.com has scammed someone's money. Read the review here- (link of the review)

Was this post spam by anyhow?
I posted in this thread- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631891.0

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April 07, 2019, 07:49:15 AM
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I think your post has been considered as spam that's why it's been deleted. Just look at that thread where you posted, it's already a spam Megathread.

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April 07, 2019, 07:56:25 AM
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I think your post has been considered as spam that's why it's been deleted. Just look at that thread where you posted, it's already a spam Megathread.
How can a positive post be considered as spam? The thread is self-moderated. Is this the reason for which thread creator can do whatever they want?
The thread going to be a total trash because thread creator is deleting good post instead keeping them alive and deleting the spam.
No rule for this?

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April 07, 2019, 08:04:22 AM
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How can a positive post be considered as spam?
If it were not spam then your posts is probably "off topic" I've just translated the thread where you posted and I seem to agree that your post (containing content from the OP) is off topic.

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The thread is self-moderated. Is this the reason for which thread creator can do whatever they want?
Actually yes the creator of the thread can do whatever they want like to delete post etc. but of course as long as it is inappropriate to the thread

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The thread going to be a total trash because thread creator is deleting good post instead keeping them alive and deleting the spam.
No rule for this?
How can you assure that the one who deleted your post is the OP of that thread?

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April 07, 2019, 08:13:09 AM
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I posted the link to this review here in Bengali local board which has been deleted by thread creator.
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সব বাংলাদেশীদের উদ্দেশ্যে বলছি, যারা অনলাইন এক্সচেঞ্জ ব্যবহার করছেন তারা সাবধান।বেশিরভাগ সাইট স্ক্যাম।সম্প্রতি Paidexbd.com সাইট স্ক্যাম করছে একজনের টাকা।
Paidexbd.com exchange review পড়েন এইখানে- Paidexbd.com Scam | Paidexbd.com Review | রিভিউ

Translation of the sentences written here.
"To all Bangladeshi, be aware whoever using online exchange for converting BTC to BDT, most of the sites are scam. Recently Paidexbd.com has scammed someone's money. Read the review here- (link of the review)

Was this post spam by anyhow?
I posted in this thread- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631891.0

First I like to tell you that your post is deleted by the forum moderator not by the thread creator. If the post is deleted by the thread creator then the message follow as below:

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You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

So it means moderator found it off topic or it is  breaking some rule.

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April 07, 2019, 08:14:19 AM
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How can a positive post be considered as spam?
If it were not spam then your posts is probably "off topic" I've just translated the thread where you posted and I seem to agree that your post (containing content from the OP) is off topic.

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The thread is self-moderated. Is this the reason for which thread creator can do whatever they want?
Actually yes the creator of the thread can do whatever they want like to delete post etc. but of course as long as it is inappropriate to the thread

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The thread going to be a total trash because thread creator is deleting good post instead keeping them alive and deleting the spam.
No rule for this?
How can you assure that the one who deleted your post is the OP of that thread?

1. The thread is for discussion about cryptocurrency in Bengali. Paidexbd offers BTC to BDT. Since, there's no seperate board for Bengali language, this thread is the place for discussion on cryptocurrency and all related to cryptocurrency. I don't get how you find my post off-topic but my post isn't off-topic by any how.
2. If the thread creator has the power of manipulation, why this thread has been sticky? Either there should a local section or that thread should be out of manipulation.
3. I can assure because thread creator said couple of times in that thread that he had deleted the spam.

So it means moderator found it off topic or it is  breaking some rule.
So, someone reported my post. I don't know how it works. There's no moderator who understand the Bengali language. Did moderator delete the post because someone reported? No further looking before deletion?

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April 07, 2019, 08:19:32 AM
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Your post was most likely deleted due to it being referral link spam.
No referral link was there. I posted a review and shared the link here with appropriate sentences to alert people. How can it be considered as referral link spam?

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April 07, 2019, 08:22:10 AM
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Your post was most likely deleted due to it being referral link spam.

Sharp observation..

OP the link you posted in the thread has extra character as "&pid=67". You are not allowed to post any referral link.
Indeed your post is deleted by forum moderator for breaking rule number 4. No referral code (ref link) spam. [1]

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April 07, 2019, 08:24:25 AM
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Your post was most likely deleted due to it being referral link spam.

Sharp observation..

OP the link you posted in the thread has extra character as "&pid=67". You are not allowed to post any referral link.
Indeed your post is deleted by forum moderator for breaking rule number 4. No referral code (ref link) spam. [1]

Who said it's a referral link?
Check the url- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5128997.msg50494951#msg50494951
The part you referred is same as #msg50494951

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April 07, 2019, 08:25:22 AM
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So, someone reported my post. I don't know how it works. There's no moderator who understand the Bengali language. Did moderator delete the post because someone reported? No further looking before deletion?
Like what I told you, you can't tell that the creator is responsible for deleting your post. (I'm in a middle of searching that Bitcointalk Forum Message - thanks r1s2g3 for it. )

You're right there is no particular Moderator in Bengali but Cyrus is responsible for moderating that section. He/She might don't understand Bengali language but that is why Google Translator exist.

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April 07, 2019, 08:28:52 AM
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So, someone reported my post. I don't know how it works. There's no moderator who understand the Bengali language. Did moderator delete the post because someone reported? No further looking before deletion?
Like what I told you, you can't tell that the creator is responsible for deleting your post. (I'm in a middle of searching that Bitcointalk Forum Message - thanks r1s2g3 for)

You're right there is no particular Moderator in Bengali but Cyrus is responsible for moderating that section. He/She might don't understand Bengali language but that os why Google Translator exist.
So, alerting people to avoid scam is considered as spam/offtopic?

By any how, my post was not-
1. Spam
2. Referral link
3. Off topic

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April 07, 2019, 08:29:21 AM
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Your post was most likely deleted due to it being referral link spam.
No referral link was there. I posted a review and shared the link here with appropriate sentences to alert people. How can it be considered as referral link spam?
The link you posted was:
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http://www.bitcoinbangladesh.info/showthread.php?tid=23&pid=67
Is the "tid=23&pid=67" portion of the link not a referral link?

edit: per above, you say it is not. I don't know why your post was deleted. My apologies.
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April 07, 2019, 08:30:59 AM
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Your post was most likely deleted due to it being referral link spam.

Sharp observation..

OP the link you posted in the thread has extra character as "&pid=67". You are not allowed to post any referral link.
Indeed your post is deleted by forum moderator for breaking rule number 4. No referral code (ref link) spam. [1]

Who said it's a referral link?
Check the url- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5128997.msg50494951#msg50494951
The part you referred is same as #msg50494951

I am reaching the thread by using this  link http://www.bitcoinbangladesh.info/showthread.php?tid=23

But the post that is deleted is having extra  "&pid=67" on the end of the above link. So what this pid 67 represent then?
Simple it is user specific link .

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April 07, 2019, 08:31:47 AM
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Is the "tid=23&pid=67" portion of the link not a referral link?

edit: per above, you say it is not. I don't know why your post was deleted.
It's not a referral link.

Here is the google translation of my post-
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For all Bangladeshi nationals, those who are using online exchanges should be careful. Most of the site scams. Paidexbd.com Scam site is one of the money.

কাউকে বিশ্বাস করার দরকার নাই ক্রিপ্টো জগতে, সবকিছু ভেরিফাই করতে পারবেন।
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April 07, 2019, 08:39:36 AM
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But the post that is deleted is having extra  "&pid=67" on the end of the above link. So what this pid 67 represent then?
Simple it is user specific link .

Yeah, it must be a referral link as "pid" stands for "Persistent ID" which are used to refer a link.

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April 07, 2019, 08:44:44 AM
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But the post that is deleted is having extra  "&pid=67" on the end of the above link. So what this pid 67 represent then?
Simple it is user specific link .

Yeah, it must be a referral link as "pid" stands for "Persistent ID" which are used to refer a link.
It's no referral link. You both are trying to force me believe this as referral link but it is not.


So what this pid 67 represent then?
Simple it is user specific link .

Edit-
tid- topic id
pid- post id

work same as here.
topic and msg

In this thread-
topic=5128997
Post id= msg50494616#msg50494616

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April 07, 2019, 08:53:02 AM
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It's no referral link. You both are trying to force me believe this as referral link but it is not.

Edit-
tid- topic id
pid- post id

work same as here.
topic and msg

In this thread-
topic=5128997
Post id= msg50494616#msg50494616
If that's the case then why other topics in www.bitcoinbangladesh.info doesn't show "pid"? and why the link above posted by r1s2g3 can be accessed without the "pid"?

Now state your answer.

Oops my bad. Seems like OP is telling the truth about this "pid"  Cheesy

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April 07, 2019, 08:55:49 AM
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It's no referral link. You both are trying to force me believe this as referral link but it is not.

Edit-
tid- topic id
pid- post id

work same as here.
topic and msg

In this thread-
topic=5128997
Post id= msg50494616#msg50494616
If that's the case then why other topics in www.bitcoinbangladesh.info doesn't show "pid"? and why the link above posted by r1s2g3 can be accessed without the "pid"?

Now state your answer.
There's two way of reaching this thread.
1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5128997 - Which only includes the direct topic link.
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5128997.msg50494616#msg50494616 - Which includes both the topic and the post id.

Both will redirect you to my this thread.

Should I say "Now state your logic behind trying to force me believe this is a referral link."?
Sorry mate, I'm not here to defend anyone. I was looking for an appropriate answer and the reason behind the misunderstanding of deleting post.

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April 07, 2019, 08:56:51 AM
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It's no referral link. You both are trying to force me believe this as referral link but it is not.

Edit-
tid- topic id
pid- post id

work same as here.
topic and msg

In this thread-
topic=5128997
Post id= msg50494616#msg50494616

 We do not know internals of other forum but Moderator also believed the same that we are thinking. But few things I will repeat.

1. Moderator deleted your thread not the OP.
2. Post it again using tid only, you will be fine.

Sorry bud, but it is not us that think it is referral. Many of user might thought the same . At least one who reported it and moderator who deleted it.

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April 07, 2019, 09:02:18 AM
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It's no referral link. You both are trying to force me believe this as referral link but it is not.

Edit-
tid- topic id
pid- post id

work same as here.
topic and msg

In this thread-
topic=5128997
Post id= msg50494616#msg50494616

 We do not know internals of other forum but Moderator also believed the same that we are thinking. But few things I will repeat.

1. Moderator deleted your thread not the OP.
2. Post it again using tid only, you will be fine.

Sorry bud, but it is not us that think it is referral. Many of user might thought the same . At least one who reported it and moderator who deleted it.
You may not know but I'm sure a forum moderator knows that it's not referral link.

1 question-
Who receive the report in a self moderated thread?
Thread creator or a moderator?

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