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April 07, 2019, 04:07:34 PM
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What is the best graphics card to purchase in terms of cost vs power vs hash?

Would a lower build cost with a bigger volume of GPUs be worth it?  

Nvidia
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1080TI
180
1070TI
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1060
1050 TI
1050

AMD
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Vega 64
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RX580
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RX560
RX480


Will monero continue to fork to support GPU miners? Will other coins do the same?

Do GPUs help to promote new development in blockchain 'updates' as they support forks?

are ASICs stuck to one mining algorithm as well as potential further 'updates' or forks?
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Bitcoin mining is now a specialized and very risky industry, just like gold mining. Amateur miners are unlikely to make much money, and may even lose money. Bitcoin is much more than just mining, though!
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April 07, 2019, 05:16:30 PM
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it depends what algo you want to mine? you can go to site that gives the best selection for your card
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April 07, 2019, 05:54:35 PM
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To date, all popular coins have asics even when they are not publicly released. Most chinese companies are not developing to ship worldwide anymore, most of the asics are for the hidden regional/national market, so forget about knowing something in advance, mining right now is a big gamble. Also buying nvidia 12nm will make you fail miserable at mining, expect a 7nm nvidia if you think about safe mining investment.

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April 07, 2019, 07:23:12 PM
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Even if the build cost is cheaper and you're capable of large volumes of GPUs using 12nm is a mistake?
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April 07, 2019, 07:31:05 PM
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he's pointing out that is risky to go with older tech, you can't know how long you will be able to mine
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April 07, 2019, 09:02:33 PM
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Yes, but if you're capable of a large volume of GPU miners in your farm wouldn't that mitigate the risk?
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April 07, 2019, 10:42:50 PM
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Yes, but if you're capable of a large volume of GPU miners in your farm wouldn't that mitigate the risk?

No. Remember that you need to roi on each gpu to be profitable afterwards. It would only mitigate the risk or be worth your time and effort if you could roi before the new gpus come out and the reality says otherwise right now. For example if you had a 2080ti, the most profitable coin right now with it would give you $1 per day net. The cheapest rtx 2080ti card would be around $1200, that would be 1200 days to roi but in reality you can count as 1600 days to roi, almost 5 years to roi as it stands. Likely nvidia is launching 7nm this year november or at latest march 2020.

You can only safely buy a current old tech gpu to be in few months if roi was less than 120 days.

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April 08, 2019, 02:05:14 AM
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I've seen a P104-100 listed on https://ravencoinhashrate.space/ as getting 19 mh/s OC.


Is this realistic?

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April 08, 2019, 02:35:28 AM
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Your Link is outdated with old miners.

1 1080 brings 22 Mhash +- 10% at 140 watt.
1 2080 brings 34 Mhash +- 10% at 160 watt.

Ravencoins is X16r and this "r" means there are different algorithms, "r"andomly picked.
So the Mhash will vary. Sometimes more..... sometimes less.

When you compare GPUs you will need to buy them to get correct data.....
Same miner, same CPU etc.

Most of my GPUs (1080 and up) are watercooled and at a lower temp you can get higher clocks.
Better stability and much less problems.
You can pay the price and take the risk, or leave it. Its risky anyway.
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April 09, 2019, 07:27:34 AM
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Yes, but if you're capable of a large volume of GPU miners in your farm wouldn't that mitigate the risk?

No. Remember that you need to roi on each gpu to be profitable afterwards. It would only mitigate the risk or be worth your time and effort if you could roi before the new gpus come out and the reality says otherwise right now. For example if you had a 2080ti, the most profitable coin right now with it would give you $1 per day net. The cheapest rtx 2080ti card would be around $1200, that would be 1200 days to roi but in reality you can count as 1600 days to roi, almost 5 years to roi as it stands. Likely nvidia is launching 7nm this year november or at latest march 2020.

You can only safely buy a current old tech gpu to be in few months if roi was less than 120 days.
And one more moment. The best ROI was at 1060(3GB), but now new algos require 6-8GB of memory. So my rigs cant get max profit and working only with algos, that they support.
In this way, we need not only calculate ROI momentaly but think about the future.

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April 09, 2019, 08:03:02 AM
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Currently for new GPUs, best ROI is still with RX570/580 8GB that can be bought bulk for around 110USD per GPU depending on the quantity.  This is what the majority of our BIG BULK (10k GPU or more) customers go for when ordering Octominer rigs.

Right now there are also very good deals for Nvidia P104 8GB GPUs, that perform very well on Ravencoin, Beam and Ethereum also. ROI is around 300 days at current prices at 5C electricity.

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April 09, 2019, 09:55:10 AM
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I think I'm still sticking rx 580 8gb it has great performance in mining Wink
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April 15, 2019, 12:46:12 PM
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Currently for new GPUs, best ROI is still with RX570/580 8GB that can be bought bulk for around 110USD per GPU depending on the quantity.  This is what the majority of our BIG BULK (10k GPU or more) customers go for when ordering Octominer rigs.

Right now there are also very good deals for Nvidia P104 8GB GPUs, that perform very well on Ravencoin, Beam and Ethereum also. ROI is around 300 days at current prices at 5C electricity.



Where can you buy 10,000 GPUs?
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April 15, 2019, 08:10:18 PM
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What is the best graphics card to purchase in terms of cost vs power vs hash?

Would a lower build cost with a bigger volume of GPUs be worth it?  

Nvidia
2080TI
2080
1080TI
180
1070TI
1070
1060
1050 TI
1050

AMD
Radeon VII
Vega 64
Vega 56
RX580
RX570
RX560
RX480


Will monero continue to fork to support GPU miners? Will other coins do the same?

Do GPUs help to promote new development in blockchain 'updates' as they support forks?

are ASICs stuck to one mining algorithm as well as potential further 'updates' or forks?

Best decided by your coin of interest. Most have unique requirements and specifications although some miners can be accommodating.
Just like T-Rex and CryptoDredge serves as better Nvidia mining software



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April 15, 2019, 08:29:01 PM
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I'd say Vega 56 / 64. Price is ultra cheap. Bellow 300€ and with modded timings you get over 2500 h/s on CN and over 50 mh/s on ethash.
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April 15, 2019, 10:13:14 PM
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Tempting to order a bunch of cheap 470s.  470s look decent watt/hash on progpow, so one could continue mining eth.   
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April 15, 2019, 10:44:49 PM
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What is the best graphics card to purchase in terms of cost vs power vs hash?

Would a lower build cost with a bigger volume of GPUs be worth it?  

Nvidia
2080TI
2080
1080TI
180
1070TI
1070
1060
1050 TI
1050

AMD
Radeon VII
Vega 64
Vega 56
RX580
RX570
RX560
RX480


Will monero continue to fork to support GPU miners? Will other coins do the same?

Do GPUs help to promote new development in blockchain 'updates' as they support forks?

are ASICs stuck to one mining algorithm as well as potential further 'updates' or forks?

Best decided by your coin of interest. Most have unique requirements and specifications although some miners can be accommodating.
Just like T-Rex and CryptoDredge serves as better Nvidia mining software




That's what i was thinking. I'm researching best coin, but I'm worried with 7nm the difficulty is going to jump.
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April 16, 2019, 06:26:51 AM
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At this moment  vega 56 cost around 240$ second hand
Profit only 1.4$/gpu with electric price 0.1$ and power consumption 0.36$ = so the profit just 1$/gpu vega 56, dont know about best Nvidia right how much they earn

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April 16, 2019, 08:07:38 AM
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Several days ago it was a research here, that the best NVIDIA is 1660ti, but it looks like 1050ti 2 years ago - it`s good, but you need lots of space to deploy it. And we are waiting for nore powerful miners for 20xx. As for me, i`d prefer 2060 or 2070

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April 16, 2019, 10:32:08 AM
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I wouldn't start mining nowdays because as you see a lot of asic miners are created for coins which we thought were asic resistant + price of coins are very low. This is the time when I would say that it's better to buy coin rather than mine it. Hold coins for a while, if price rise - you get good profit and profitable mining, price of GPUs won't rise hugely, so buying at that time and starting mining would be better to my mind.

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