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April 07, 2019, 08:55:34 PM
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Are there any casinos that have a 0% house edge?
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April 07, 2019, 09:49:30 PM
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Are there any casinos that have a 0% house edge?

I don't think so, as far as I know they all have house edge, and most have around or under 1% depending on their game(s).

Some, however, do have promotions from time to time with lower house edge or even zero house edge for a day or a couple of hours.

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April 07, 2019, 09:53:13 PM
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How would the Casino make money if there was no house edge? You won't find a casino or casino game where the win probability is greater than 50% for the player.
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April 07, 2019, 09:58:15 PM
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How would the Casino make money if there was no house edge? You won't find a casino or casino game where the edge is greater than 50% for the player.

ive seen this recently - socialbet.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5119108.0), claiming to have 0% house edge. they are claiming to have a mind-blowing games. and they are currently still looking for potential investors. for faster developments??? i dont know if this will ever be reality. lets check how 0% house edge will work on  this online casino. never explored before.

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April 07, 2019, 10:00:31 PM
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I forgot what casino that is but there is I saw in this forum. And you might be wandering how can a casino can earn money with 0% house edge and that's makes me wander to. I just forgot the site and the thread but they answered that question.
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April 07, 2019, 10:00:59 PM
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Are there any casinos that have a 0% house edge?

I doubt if there is, casino owner will not earn anything if there's no house edge. It can be possible if they will have a promotion, but making an online casino with no house edge makes no sense. It's one of their way for them to gain income aside from their gambling operation.

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April 07, 2019, 10:02:36 PM
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I forgot what casino that is but there is I saw in this forum. And you might be wandering how can a casino can earn money with 0% house edge and that's makes me wander to. I just forgot the site and the thread but they answered that question.

And what the actual f*ck does this post have to do with OP's question?

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April 07, 2019, 10:10:16 PM
Last edit: April 07, 2019, 10:23:12 PM by ralle14
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There's none, the closest is safedice with 0.5% house edge but they're not trusted anymore because the site isn't paying and there are rumors about the owner being held in prison. The next lowest is crypto-games which has a 0.8% house edge.


Edit: I remember one it's called edgeless(ANN) but I can't give a review since i've never tried them. Despite of the 0% house edge they claim to still have an edge based on their players' poor decision making.

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April 07, 2019, 10:39:36 PM
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Are there any casinos that have a 0% house edge?
I didn't try this one yet but since you are looking for a 0% house edge then I would just drop it here SocialBet thread .
Just to remind you I don't have any affiliates or connection to them,
Do it at your own risk .

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April 08, 2019, 04:52:05 AM
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peerbet.org offers a peer to peer 0% house edge i believe for one of their games.




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April 08, 2019, 05:48:31 AM
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peerbet.org offers a peer to peer 0% house edge i believe for one of their games.

What the games are you played on that site?

I didn't believe before you post this site, because kind of casino sites take x% house edge.
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April 09, 2019, 04:58:13 AM
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None that I heard of. The house edge is how they make their money after all. Somewhat surprised with the replies here and might look them up.

I suppose it's possible to have 0% for one game that have low payouts and just get the bulk of income from the remaining games.
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April 09, 2019, 05:37:40 AM
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Well in the past there were casinos which had 0% house edge. Most of the legit ones did it as a promo, and the scam ones did it to steal bitcoins.

It makes sense that the casino needs a house edge so it can earn an income, however I think even if casinos had 0% house edge they would still earn profit due to fear and greed.

Casinos make crazy profits from newbies who martingale and get 10 losses in a row and clean out their accounts entirely. That's where most of their income comes in, not from the small house edge.

One reason why casinos don't have 0% is due to bots, it would be very annoying because bots which don't trade on greed and emotion would basically flood the bets and the casino wouldn't get anything out of it.

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April 09, 2019, 06:44:27 AM
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peerbet.org offers a peer to peer 0% house edge i believe for one of their games.

Yes they offers 0% house edge on their raffle game but it is not attractive enough just like other raffle games. I have not seen any success raffle/lottery games except the one on freebitco.in which has so many players every round but indeed they have house edge on it.

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April 09, 2019, 07:42:45 AM
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I doubt there are because what is the point of owning a casino , pay for staff and rent if it is land line when it doesn't bring you any revenue at all ?

The idea behind the house edge is to give the owners a profit in the long run and for the gamblers is that someone will get everybody else lost money and even more and will think how great is that when in fac it is not.

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April 09, 2019, 07:47:52 AM
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It just makes no sense for a casino to have 0% house edge. I believe that socialbet.io have this house edge but I don't think that it will be good for them. It might be good for players to play at a casino that has 0 house edge but be careful you might get scammed by those casinos who offer that.
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April 09, 2019, 08:00:50 AM
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Wow! OP is persistence to search for gambling sites that have 0% house edge he even made a recent thread if there are sports betting site that also has 0% house edge, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5128981.msg50504029#msg50504029

I really don't see much casino or gambling site that offers ZERO house edge you are quite lucky enough to spot a gambling site that offers 1% house edge then I think you are on the right track if you really want to play gambling but my assumption here is if a gambling site would have 0% house edge then assume it also has 0% payment or it will not pay you back because without that earnings then how can they continue their services and earn money from it,

I may have spotted gambling sites that offer a total 0% house edge but that will be in a limited time only, or a promo and it can only be in their 1 game only.
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April 09, 2019, 09:29:24 AM
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Are there any casinos that have a 0% house edge?
As of this moment i havent see any gambling sites or casinos that do offer 0% HE.Most of them do really have it yet gambling sites are businesses and no one would really
operates for free on all the expenses that they spent on maintaining the site and their staffs.They do make profits or money with HE thats why its impossible for you to seek it on.
I've seen some of them offer out 0% on a short duration for the sake of promotion but that wont last long.

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April 09, 2019, 10:02:33 AM
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Maybe you can find one but I can assure you that one couldn't be trusted and when you won you won't be able to withdraw your winnings, that will be some risk for not having house edge. Like what do you expect from a site that don't have revenue, definitely you will got what you paid for. < ooppps, you didn't pay any, sorry >>

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April 09, 2019, 10:31:13 AM
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Are there any casinos that have a 0% house edge?
Never heard about those gambling sites but I doubt they can be trusted.
Gambling sites run through this one and if there's no way for them to create profit then it would be hard to run a good gambling site like that. Better to look for a good gambling site and study how you can actually play and make money on that, there's no easy way to find a casinos like this nowadays, this is a pure business of course and they need money as well.
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Don't you want a casino which will give you free money forever? Just to make it clear: 0% house edge means casino has no profit from gambling, 0% house edge hugely increases chanses of your win which means casino will go bankrupt. If casino goes bankrupt, then who will pay you? No one, also don't believe if they say to have different monetization model, 0% house edge ruins everything, non different monetization can handle players' wins.

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Don't you want a casino which will give you free money forever? Just to make it clear: 0% house edge means casino has no profit from gambling, 0% house edge hugely increases chanses of your win which means casino will go bankrupt. If casino goes bankrupt, then who will pay you? No one, also don't believe if they say to have different monetization model, 0% house edge ruins everything, non different monetization can handle players' wins.

This is right buddy no one in online casino will offer a 0% house edge for the favor of their player first gambling site need to earn profit to maintain their services if their offer 0% house edge then thin twice before joining this online casino.

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None that I heard of. The house edge is how they make their money after all. Somewhat surprised with the replies here and might look them up.

I suppose it's possible to have 0% for one game that have low payouts and just get the bulk of income from the remaining games.
Following you with that. possible also to do it with one specific games where lots of visitors can bring benefits for the house in terms of monetizations, but it's still a big question whether it can be enough to support facilitating the gambling site, knowing that house edge is the bread and butter of this business.

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April 09, 2019, 04:55:14 PM
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None that I heard of. The house edge is how they make their money after all. Somewhat surprised with the replies here and might look them up.

I suppose it's possible to have 0% for one game that have low payouts and just get the bulk of income from the remaining games.
Following you with that. possible also to do it with one specific games where lots of visitors can bring benefits for the house in terms of monetizations, but it's still a big question whether it can be enough to support facilitating the gambling site, knowing that house edge is the bread and butter of this business.
No it cant sustain! Gambling site would really need to have that HE to get income from to its gamblers and its just a stupid move by them if they would give out that 0% house edge on longer runs.
These are businesses not charities thats why it would be a normal thing that any business will have this edge no matter what, they might offer it but it would be good for 1 day or some number of bets limit to each player or for everyone.
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Are there any casinos that have a 0% house edge?

If i would be the house or the owner of the casino, i will jot open it if it has to be a no house edge policy. How the hell can i earn with this? Where do i get the expenses of managing it?. I doubt there is an existing site like that and we all know that its really right and normal that the house has some percentage in every game.

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May 04, 2019, 07:27:49 AM
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Don't you want a casino which will give you free money forever? Just to make it clear: 0% house edge means casino has no profit from gambling, 0% house edge hugely increases chanses of your win which means casino will go bankrupt. If casino goes bankrupt, then who will pay you? No one, also don't believe if they say to have different monetization model, 0% house edge ruins everything, non different monetization can handle players' wins.

I am sure that we are not so lucky that we get to see a gambling site where there is 0% house edge. If we ever get such a site, them we all gamblers can become millionaire within no time .  Some sites do claim that they are offering 0% house edge but I am sure they are specking false only to being in customers.
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No casino can provide a 0% house edge forever. The house edge is the profit tool for casinos.
Most of the casino provides around 1% of house edge in most games. There are some casinos providing lower.
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May 04, 2019, 07:41:05 AM
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Casinos with 0% edge is really not possible with gambling, every business is focused on profiting. If there is 0% profit then it'll get bankrupt in a short. From my understanding casino as an added service to some other exchange services will make it possible. If there exist such a casino surely it'll reach good number of userbase in a very short time period.

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You wont find those easily, casinos have to earn somewhere but i know crypto-games offers periodically lotto games against 0% house edge.

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Casinos are operating and make profit due to their house edge. If casinos had 0% house edge, it would become really hard for them to maintain a profit in the long run. Remember, casinos are not charity sites. They are here for business. But there are some casinos that sometimes host 0% house edge promotion for one whole day. Crypto-games.net has held these kind of promotions before. They might hold one soon  Wink.

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May 04, 2019, 03:37:53 PM
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Have you ever heard of socialbet.io? They are saying to have 0% house edge but I don't know exactly their development phase. But if I am a player, I will doubt an online casino to have 0% house edge. They need to get money from somewhere. And that will be a mystery for us.
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Have you ever heard of socialbet.io? They are saying to have 0% house edge but I don't know exactly their development phase. But if I am a player, I will doubt an online casino to have 0% house edge. They need to get money from somewhere. And that will be a mystery for us.

They can't have 0% edge else they will be in a loss and they won't have funds to pay people who wins on their site.  As far as I know, the minimum house edge is 0.1% and I have not seen anything below this number. Normally the gambling sites offering 1% house edge are considered to be good and anything above 1% is not recommended by the gamblers too.

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Have you ever heard of socialbet.io? They are saying to have 0% house edge but I don't know exactly their development phase. But if I am a player, I will doubt an online casino to have 0% house edge. They need to get money from somewhere. And that will be a mystery for us.

They can't have 0% edge else they will be in a loss and they won't have funds to pay people who wins on their site.  As far as I know, the minimum house edge is 0.1% and I have not seen anything below this number. Normally the gambling sites offering 1% house edge are considered to be good and anything above 1% is not recommended by the gamblers too.

its rare to see a gambling site that has a 1% house edge  . i bet most of the gambling sites nowadays are mainly have an above 1% house edge and of course this includes the reputable and older casino's  .  they are still recomended by other gamblers so there is no need to worry at all  . infact above 1% house edge do also offers higher prize pools than those who have a lower house edges  .
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June 06, 2019, 02:26:14 PM
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I doubt it, gambling sites owners are businessmen, meaning they are after profits and it is very impossible for them to set-up 0% house edge, I believe they set it up as high as possible to ensure profits. I heard some may have promotions but not to the point where they offer 0% house edge.

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I doubt it, gambling sites owners are businessmen, meaning they are after profits and it is very impossible for them to set-up 0% house edge, I believe they set it up as high as possible to ensure profits. I heard some may have promotions but not to the point where they offer 0% house edge.

There actually have been promotions on legitimate crypto casinos where the house edge was lowered to 0% for a short time to attract gamblers, but there hasn't been any sort of promotion like this on any semi-reputable casino in some time. It does seldom happen, though.

I wouldn't try gambling on just any casino offering a 0% house edge though. There's plenty of scam casinos out there, and advertising a 0% house edge can be used as bait to get people to deposit money onto such a site.
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June 06, 2019, 05:06:28 PM
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I doubt it, gambling sites owners are businessmen, meaning they are after profits and it is very impossible for them to set-up 0% house edge, I believe they set it up as high as possible to ensure profits. I heard some may have promotions but not to the point where they offer 0% house edge.

Actually, there's one site offering 0% house edge but up until now, they are in beta.

https://socialbet.io/

You can see at the lower right portion of their homepage.



Their thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5119108.0

Last post was in April, so don't know the progress update of their developments.
Curious if they can really attract gamblers with this feature once they are up and running.
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June 06, 2019, 05:35:58 PM
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I doubt it, gambling sites owners are businessmen, meaning they are after profits and it is very impossible for them to set-up 0% house edge, I believe they set it up as high as possible to ensure profits. I heard some may have promotions but not to the point where they offer 0% house edge.

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Looking at on the thread it seems its not active even giving out 0% house edge doesn't guarantee of success of such gambling site.

For now,i don't see any casinos currently offers 0% house edge yet you can see these offers for a limited time specially if they are still on
launching date or some promo but this don't last forever.

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June 06, 2019, 09:30:34 PM
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I doubt it, gambling sites owners are businessmen, meaning they are after profits and it is very impossible for them to set-up 0% house edge, I believe they set it up as high as possible to ensure profits. I heard some may have promotions but not to the point where they offer 0% house edge.

Actually, there's one site offering 0% house edge but up until now, they are in beta.

https://socialbet.io/

You can see at the lower right portion of their homepage.



Their thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5119108.0

Last post was in April, so don't know the progress update of their developments.
Curious if they can really attract gamblers with this feature once they are up and running.
Don't you see a donation button near to 0% house edge text? This is casino which offers 0% house edge but donations at the same time if you enjoy their 0% house edge experience. Have heard donations are welcome for projects that do good job for free, for online newspapers, for children and poverty but haven't ever seen donations for casinos. Who will donate casino and why? I have no idea. 0% house edge won't attract customers but will destroy casino which offers that.

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June 07, 2019, 01:36:10 AM
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A 0% house edge casino would be a bet between two people p2p. If there is a middleman (that is the casino platform where we play), there will be a house edge, otherwise nobody will offer this service for free.
The house edge is what makes the system sustainable, organized and the gambling activity in large scale be possible.

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Casino won't gain profit without a house edge. If it does really exist that casino won't last long. It would attract many gamblers but I don't suggest playing there. Something like a 0% house edge for a limited time or event is enough.

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June 07, 2019, 05:25:47 AM
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Casino won't gain profit without a house edge.

That's the reality, even 1% house edge which is low but they are making huge profit if the total amount wagered are bigger.
It's their advantage, and it's where they make money operating the casino.

If it does really exist that casino won't last long. It would attract many gamblers but I don't suggest playing there. Something like a 0% house edge for a limited time or event is enough.
Or maybe a scam casino only, I don't see a casino with zero house edge that are successful and popular in the crypto world, most of them has house edge.
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June 07, 2019, 06:30:04 AM
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Are there any casinos that have a 0% house edge?

Don't you think that the casino doesn't want to take their profit? Usually, they have 1% house edge, and I think that is fine for gamblers to play in their site. As long as the site is very recommended and the site is legit, I think the gamblers don't have any complaint except the site doing a cheat for their members. But for the trusty gambling site, they won't cheat their members because they will think that their members an assets to them to make a profit.
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I think casino will not earn anything if there's no house edge or 0% house edge ofcourse that is the one of the reason that they can earn income.

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I think casino will not earn anything if there's no house edge or 0% house edge ofcourse that is the one of the reason that they can earn income.

You sure about that ?  What if the casino or the gambling site have an ads ?  They can still earn that way if they have alot of visitors  but only if those visitors wont use ad blocker .  in reality i think no gambling site have a zero house  but i believe the lowest house edge is at 0.1 or 0.01  percent ,  in this way a gambling site can attract alot of users as much as possible while they can still earn something .
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June 07, 2019, 09:32:39 AM
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I think casino will not earn anything if there's no house edge or 0% house edge ofcourse that is the one of the reason that they can earn income.

You sure about that ?  What if the casino or the gambling site have an ads ?  They can still earn that way if they have alot of visitors  but only if those visitors wont use ad blocker .  in reality i think no gambling site have a zero house  but i believe the lowest house edge is at 0.1 or 0.01  percent ,  in this way a gambling site can attract alot of users as much as possible while they can still earn something .

I haven't seen a gambling website that have ads on their platform and even if they do visiting that website will take longer loading time compared to other websites who don't have any ads. And imo if you put ads on your gambling website that means you don't have enough funds to run that business.
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June 07, 2019, 02:51:37 PM
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I don't think tou should play in the casino that offered 0% house edge, the casino need something to make profit and usually they make profit from house edge, if they cant make profit from house edge then they could find dirty way to make profit, which is cheating the system, as you can see all the reputable site got a house edge
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June 07, 2019, 10:15:35 PM
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I don't think tou should play in the casino that offered 0% house edge, the casino need something to make profit and usually they make profit from house edge, if they cant make profit from house edge then they could find dirty way to make profit, which is cheating the system, as you can see all the reputable site got a house edge
Yes. Casinos are only making profits from their players so it's really impossible that they create 0% house edge from the gamblers. Surely casinos are built for income purposes too so they will really find ways to make profits from all the gamblers who often play in their sites.
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June 08, 2019, 06:46:18 AM
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Are there any casinos that have a 0% house edge?

hey, business should be fair. to organize a casino you have to spend quite a lot. there are should be a way to get investment back. if house edge is 0% business is not sustainable, it could be so only for some promotional event, like celebrate casino anniversary.
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June 10, 2019, 11:39:27 AM
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Casino won't gain profit without a house edge.

That's the reality, even 1% house edge which is low but they are making huge profit if the total amount wagered are bigger.
It's their advantage, and it's where they make money operating the casino.

If it does really exist that casino won't last long. It would attract many gamblers but I don't suggest playing there. Something like a 0% house edge for a limited time or event is enough.
Or maybe a scam casino only, I don't see a casino with zero house edge that are successful and popular in the crypto world, most of them has house edge.
That is right, I doubt about a casino that claims to have 0% house edge and if one does claim, it is a scam one because a casino would never push their money under the light of probability. They always make sure they make some money regardless of the win or loss of the gambler. So it is important to choose wisely and gamble on a casino that is average.
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June 10, 2019, 01:43:55 PM
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How would the Casino make money if there was no house edge? You won't find a casino or casino game where the win probability is greater than 50% for the player.
I agree with you sir! If they don't have any charge nor house edge, the gambling site that the OP wants is a illegal gambling site. They will never create their own profits in other things. That is why they also made fees and house edge so that they can sustain their business. We all know that gambling is business also. And they really need this one.

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Are there any casinos that have a 0% house edge?

hey, business should be fair. to organize a casino you have to spend quite a lot. there are should be a way to get investment back. if house edge is 0% business is not sustainable, it could be so only for some promotional event, like celebrate casino anniversary.
Big downside of such casino if they will not allocate portions of the house edge for maintaining the site, traffics  alone and some ads will not sustained
the maintenance and the expenses of the site, even in a small part there's should be something for the site.

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June 10, 2019, 04:54:34 PM
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I've played on some websites that let you bet against other players so it was 50/50 odds and they made their money off website advertisements.  That is a good business model and may grow rapidly in the future as players keep striving to get the best odds possible. 
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