Julain Assange Arrested

[yesiam6]

He is very controversial man.There is very good movie about his story and Wiki Leaks beginning.He has difficult   personality.I am reading that he has  inspire Manning to hack USA army servers.I am asking where was  NSA agency developed for USA cyber security
I am against his extradition to USA .He is not EL Chapo .I have been reading that extradition
to Sweden is very much possible because he is suspected for sexual abuse in Sweden

That was a hollywood movie and you should take that with a grain of salt...
I'm also against an extradition of him and of (unrelated i know) kim dotcom to the USA where they have never resided.
Just the US playing world police again , black ops illegally killing (criminal) people in countries where they don't have any right to do that.
He will not get extradited to sweden for (probably fake) sexual assault charges because the case has been closed
but now that i'm reading about it again "Swedish prosecutors considering request to reopen Julian Assange rape case" mmh...

Ecuador’s former regime reportedly tolerated Julian Assange smearing poop on the walls of their London embassy

This is how you end up being left alone with Twitter for 7 years.

I'm not even sure if that really happened but having to stay in a small space for 7 years straight could make the strongest man go insane

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[Beerwizzard]

I'm also against an extradition of him and of (unrelated i know) kim dotcom to the USA where they have never resided.

By the way we can notice that there is a huge amount of internationsl organisations that fight for rights of some random gay couple in central Africa, screaming loud about some unknown country is breaking some human rights of their social activists and so on.
But none of them is even trying for the rights of Julian Assange and not asking ECHR for help and ECHR by itself is closing eyes on this issue.

[KingScorpio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QXSefWYsyE

This subject is one I am not sure where I stand on. If he is a genuine leaker with no ulterior motives then I am not for this, but there are reasons to suspect he is really a CIA or other intelligence agency asset based on his past arrest and work history. There are many reasons to suspect he may have ulterior motives that would serve the "deep state" narrative. What do you think?

i think conspiracy theories like this one of yours, will in the long term break all activities success of the usdollar communists in washington.

[TECSHARE]

Ecuador’s former regime reportedly tolerated Julian Assange smearing poop on the walls of their London embassy

This is how you end up being left alone with Twitter for 7 years.

Are you sure it wasn't being left alone with Twitter for 7 years that caused this behavior?

[Quickseller]

Ecuador’s former regime reportedly tolerated Julian Assange smearing poop on the walls of their London embassy

This is how you end up being left alone with Twitter for 7 years.

Are you sure it wasn't being left alone with Twitter for 7 years that caused this behavior?

The former president of Ecuador said he thought this was actually a smear and untrue.   

[TheBeardedBaby]

Anonymous in support of Asange. I guess there will be a response to the arrest.

Anonymous Message To The Captors Of Julian Assange

Greetings citizens of the world, We Are Anonymous.
This is a message for the UK government and their cohorts around the world who are working to silence whistleblowers.

As many of you know, UK authorities have arrested Wikileaks co-founder Julian Assange on behalf of the US government. This is a move that has been expected for some time and Assange himself has even warned us about his impending arrest. This arrest and the greater persecution of Wikileaks and other whistleblowers sends a clear message that these governments will stop at nothing to maintain their secrecy.

Assange is an enemy of the state because he has exposed the crimes of both the left and the right. Assange was forced into exile after he exposed war crimes on behalf of the Bush administration with the “collateral damage” video that was leaked to his organization by Chelsea Manning. The video showed graphic evidence of war crimes committed by the US military overseas, but at the time many conservatives believed that he put US lives in danger. Years later, Assange found himself in the crosshairs of the liberals, after his organization leaked explosive evidence of corruption about Hillary Clinton just before the 2016 election.

After exposing Hillary Clinton, Assange was labeled as a Russian asset, although there is no evidence to support these claims. By all accounts, Assange is a true journalist who speaks truth to power and exposes corruption whether it is on the left or the right. The modern age has so few actual journalists that we no longer have any idea what a real journalist looks like. Instead, we have talking heads on the news who report unsubstantiated sound bytes that are crafted to sell a specific narrative.

Many powerful forces from all over the world have worked to make this possible. Influential people representing the governments of the UK, the United States, and Ecuador have all signed off on this unprecedented attack on journalism. These interests have acted against the people without fear because they believe that their positions of power will grant them protection from the karmic consequences of reality.

By these actions, they are bringing the free world closer to a widespread revolution, and that is honestly what may be needed to stop these constant advances on our freedom. This should be a peaceful revolution that is waged across many battlefields, including cyberspace, the domain of An0nymous.

Every single powerful person who has signed off on this order should be shaking in their boots, because the force of the internet is about to be unleashed upon them. All the way from the CIA, the President of the United States, and down to the arresting officers that carried Assange out of the embassy, you have all exposed yourselves as enemies of the people and it is time for An0nymous to act accordingly.

Another battlefield that the free people of the world need to dominate is the streets. Street protests are sometimes seen as a wasted effort, but the current revolution brewing in France and other parts of the developed world show us that the governments can bend to the will of the people.

For weeks, Assange and Wikileaks have been putting out warnings that the arrest was imminent, and the people of the UK had every opportunity to form a human chain around that building to prevent the authorities from making the arrest. However, it is still not too late to take similar action. If protests that rival the scale and intensity of the recent demonstrations in France were to sweep across the UK in response to the arrest of Assange, it could help to protect him, and possibly change the outcome of his case.

Assange has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize every single year since 2010 when his case began to gather international media attention, and he is well loved by the people of the world, especially those who have the sense to see through the propaganda that justifies the foreign policy of the US government and their allies.

Unfortunately, the establishment does not feel the same, so this is a warning for the establishment: Let Assange free or you will pay!

The time has come for us to unite, the time has come for us to stand up and fight!

We are Anonymous!

We are Legion!

We do not forgive!

We do not forget!

Expect us!

Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.anonews.co/anonymous-message-to-uk-citizens/amp/

[Waradlain]

I'm not even sure if that really happened but having to stay in a small space for 7 years straight could make the strongest man go insane

the strongest man my ass. even Chelsea Manning has bigger balls than this dude.

[Waradlain]

Ecuador’s former regime reportedly tolerated Julian Assange smearing poop on the walls of their London embassy

This is how you end up being left alone with Twitter for 7 years.

Are you sure it wasn't being left alone with Twitter for 7 years that caused this behavior?

The former president of Ecuador said he thought this was actually a smear and untrue.   

The present user of Bitcointalk said he thought this was actually legit and true. 

It's time to choose your side Quickseller.
Who do you trust more?

[Quickseller]

Ecuador’s former regime reportedly tolerated Julian Assange smearing poop on the walls of their London embassy

This is how you end up being left alone with Twitter for 7 years.

Are you sure it wasn't being left alone with Twitter for 7 years that caused this behavior?

The former president of Ecuador said he thought this was actually a smear and untrue.   

The present user of Bitcointalk said he thought this was actually legit and true.

It's time to choose your side Quickseller.
Who do you trust more?

The former president is in a position to know the credibility of this type of claim. He may not have personality witnessed the conditions of the room he was living in, however he did hand pick the employees working in the embassy and he presumably trusted them.

I have no idea what the basis of your knowledge would be. AFAIK, there isn’t any reason you would have knowledge of if this is real or not.

[TECSHARE]

The former president is in a position to know the credibility of this type of claim. He may not have personality witnessed the conditions of the room he was living in, however he did hand pick the employees working in the embassy and he presumably trusted them.

I have no idea what the basis of your knowledge would be. AFAIK, there isn’t any reason you would have knowledge of if this is real or not.

[plot twist Waradlain is secretly the president of Ecuador]

[Quickseller]

[conspirologically laughs in Ecuadorian]


Edit:
if you want to get deeper into Assange subject, your probably need this thread:
https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1116468833869602817

I am not sure why they wouldn’t have published the information themselves as I cannot imagine a situation in which someone would have access to those chat logs but not the underlying documents.

I am also not sure why their “source” would go to a publication with such low and infrequent circulation.


Assuming the story is true, you don’t know if there were doubts about the information about Russia.

edit: it looks like, according to the story, the information was already public years prior to when it was sent to Wikileaks. The story says the "source" was trying to provide double the amount of information that was already public, but you don't know if the additional information is news worthy, or of public interest

[Waradlain]

[conspirologically laughs in Ecuadorian]


Edit:
if you want to get deeper into Assange subject, your probably need this thread:
https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1116468833869602817

I am not sure why they wouldn’t have published the information themselves as I cannot imagine a situation in which someone would have access to those chat logs but not the underlying documents.

I am also not sure why their “source” would go to a publication with such low and infrequent circulation.


Assuming the story is true, you don’t know if there were doubts about the information about Russia.

edit: it looks like, according to the story, the information was already public years prior to when it was sent to Wikileaks. The story says the "source" was trying to provide double the amount of information that was already public, but you don't know if the additional information is news worthy, or of public interest

I hope you won't force me to prove the accuracy of the information from each article cuz it's all well-known just collected in one place.

[TECSHARE]

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/youtube-is-removing-all-videos-discussing-julian-assanges-arrest/

[Pab]

The Guardian is publishing a lot about Assange case
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/13/julian-assange-indictment-wikileaks-trump-administration-war-on-press-freedom
Wiki Leaks is publishing portal,trying to be independent .Maybe they are are not so well confirming news but most of press is paid and full of fake news
That will turn to discussion about freedom of speech freedom  of journalism
But panama papers and paradise papers was thanks  to investigation journalism
and Snowden only foul was to inform that USA gov id violating USA Constitution
Acting  against Constitution is illegal in any democratic country in the world

I have been reading that  Equador get 4 bln dollar loans from IMF two days before Assange arrest
Is this true i will not even search for source

[sheenshane]

Julian Assange is really a great actor. However, I don't see the reason why he avoided the extradition to Sweden over a sexual assault case that has since been dropped. Now, since he failed to surrender to the court, he will face a US federal conspiracy charges related to one
of the largest ever leaks of government secrets. I wonder what are the things he leaked. Maybe this is the reason why the UK left the European Union. Or Maybe, he just saved his country and his fellow countrymen into something. We don't know.

[guybrushthreepwood]

What I abhor about this is the hypocrisy. It's not like the US government and every other super power doesn't steal documents from other governments, but when somebody does it to them they act like it's a heinous crime. All Assange did was expose the truth and that's what really hurts them.

IMO trump should pardon him. He is likely to face politically motivated charges in the US related to the 2016 election.

Trump should do a lot of things but he'd never do this. I believe he said he'd never pardon him -- or maybe that was Chelsea Manning. Can he even pardon non-us citizens?

Assange will have an extradition hearing in the UK, it isn't for sure he will even get to the US.

The extradition process will likely be long and drawn out, but unless someone significant steps in with serious political power they'll probably ship him off to the US eventually. The UK is too pally-pally with the US for them not to. Maybe Assange will get bail and go walk about, though (but I doubt it).

[Flying Hellfish]

Trump should do a lot of things but he'd never do this. I believe he said he'd never pardon him -- or maybe that was Chelsea Manning. Can he even pardon non-us citizens?

I doubt Trump was referring to Manning seeing as her sentence was already commuted by Obama in Jan 2017

The extradition process will likely be long and drawn out, but unless someone significant steps in with serious political power they'll probably ship him off to the US eventually. The UK is too pally-pally with the US for them not to. Maybe Assange will get bail and go walk about, though (but I doubt it).

IIRC Assange already missed a bail hearing in the UK, regardless of that fact, the UK will never give him bail because he is the definition of a flight risk!

The case against Assange is flimsy as fuck, the Obama administration had all of this same information and they decided NOT to prosecute Assange (they worried they couldn't make such a flimsy case stick).  The hard liners currently in charge of the DOJ have a different opinion.

The fact that the statute of limitations was 4 days from expiring for the indicted crime is not coincidental.  This was/is their last shot at getting Assange for the 2010 "incident".  As I mentioned before a superseding indictment adding crimes is always a possibility but that would require new evidence to be presented to back up that indictment.

There is another level to this as yet widely unreported.  According to UK law when a person is extradited ALL charges must be present at the time of extradition, this could include sealed indictments (which we would not be privy too).  Basically what the UK law means is that you can't extradite someone for one crime and then PILE on a whole lot of other shit once you get them home.

Its funny how many people in the forum have no idea how complicated this case is going to be, it is by far anything but a slam dunk for the US DOJ.

[TECSHARE]

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/it-looks-like-wikileaks-has-dumped-everything/

[Quickseller]

It looks like they even released the email addresses of their donors https://file.wikileaks.org/file/wikileaks-leaks-donors.txt

Edit: they may have Clinton’s emails lol. https://file.wikileaks.org/file/clinton-emails/
Edit2: it looks like this may not actually be new, and may be from early 2016 - https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/

I looked through some files published on file.wikileaks.org and it looks like most of the files are mundane, nothing stands out as being potential bombshells, and a lot is really old, decades old. Also according to a tweet from Wikileaks, nothing on file.wikileaks.org is new.

[Spendulus]

It looks like they even released the email addresses of their donors https://file.wikileaks.org/file/wikileaks-leaks-donors.txt

Edit: they may have Clinton’s emails lol. https://file.wikileaks.org/file/clinton-emails/
Edit2: it looks like this may not actually be new, and may be from early 2016 - https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/

I looked through some files published on file.wikileaks.org and it looks like most of the files are mundane, nothing stands out as being potential bombshells, and a lot is really old, decades old. Also according to a tweet from Wikileaks, nothing on file.wikileaks.org is new.

At the core, the issue here is the power of the individual, vs the traditional power of the state. This is part of a gradual change that of course, is dangerous to the state.