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April 17, 2019, 12:16:46 PM
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I often use archive.is to archive a page, and several sites offer something similar. However, those sites view the forum as guest, which means Trust isn't shown.

I'm thinking of creating a site that archives user profiles or Trust pages on request (reason why). This means that data which currenly is only available after logging in, becomes available to the internet.

At theymos' request, all pages will get this:
If you republish forum content, please add a tag like <link rel="canonical" href="https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112444.0" /> in the header, pointing to the first page of the original topic so that Google doesn't get confused.

Before I create this, I have one question: Is it allowed to publish Trust feedback publicly?
Many users including myself have posted screenshots or quoted trust already.

Later on, I might expand this to archiving forum pages including users' trust ratings. I won't make Investigations public. I'll still archive them when requested, so that (when needed) users can ask what was archived via PM.

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April 17, 2019, 12:31:29 PM
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Before I create this, I have one question: Is it allowed to publish Trust feedback publicly?

I think its totally valid to make the trust feedbacks public, as it serves a purpose of letting all the people know who is trusted and who is not.

Basically theymos designed the new DT update to make the trust feedbacks more flexible and later to make it available for the guest.

The main reason that I went for this solution rather than forcing custom lists is that I would like to show some trust indicator to guests.

From this I think it would be more helpful if you do it before theymos does it officially here. It's basically allowed.

BTW, I would surely use your site once done! Wink
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April 17, 2019, 12:31:41 PM
Last edit: April 17, 2019, 01:41:58 PM by DireWolfM14
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Since a user has to be logged into the forum to see others' profiles and trust page, will that user's name and avatar be displayed at the top of the archived page?  That's the only issue I would have with archives allowing pages to appear as they do for me when I'm logged in.  Maybe your archiving tool can incorporate Suchmoon's stealth code.

As for whether it's allowed or not, I really don't know.  I noticed other forums of which I'm a member don't display trade ratings in "guest" mode.  There might be some privacy concerns for those who've left the feedback as well.

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April 17, 2019, 01:24:42 PM
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Trust ratings are not moderated, and their value/accuracy is dependent on the viewer's trust network being reasonable. So they definitely shouldn't be indexed by search engines, at least: exclude it from robots.txt or use <meta name="robots" content="noindex,noarchive,nosnippet" />

I can't currently think of any other issues resulting from mirroring them if they're excluded from search engines.

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April 17, 2019, 02:39:39 PM
Last edit: April 21, 2019, 06:30:04 PM by LoyceV
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I think its totally valid to make the trust feedbacks public, as it serves a purpose of letting all the people know who is trusted and who is not.
Although I agree, I don't think any "guest" user will use this to see trust feedback.

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Basically theymos designed the new DT update to make the trust feedbacks more flexible and later to make it available for the guest.

The main reason that I went for this solution rather than forcing custom lists is that I would like to show some trust indicator to guests.
I think theymos meant to show only the trust score to guests, not the full feedback.

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From this I think it would be more helpful if you do it before theymos does it officially here. It's basically allowed.
The title probably gave the wrong impression, it's meant to be an archive used by existing users, not for others.

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BTW, I would surely use your site once done! Wink
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Since a user has to be logged into the forum to see others' profiles and trust page, will that user's name and avatar be displayed at the top of the archived page?
Name: yes. Just like Trust summary for LoyceV.
Avatar (and other images): maybe. It's going to be much easier to only copy the page, without saving images.
I don't see a problem with avatars though, archive.is shows them.

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That's the only issue I would have with archives allowing pages to appear as they do for me when I'm logged in.  Maybe your archiving tool can incorporate Suchmoon's stealth code.
Do you mean just the avatar, or all images posted in a thread too?

Trust ratings are not moderated, and their value/accuracy is dependent on the viewer's trust network being reasonable. So they definitely shouldn't be indexed by search engines, at least: exclude it from robots.txt or use <meta name="robots" content="noindex,noarchive,nosnippet" />
Fair enough, I can do that Smiley

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I can't currently think of any other issues resulting from mirroring them if they're excluded from search engines.
Thanks!



Update: see [project] LoyceV's Profile and Trust Archive site

I'll lock this topic now.

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