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April 16, 2019, 10:42:00 AM
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What do I mean by the term Junk Accounts?

All accounts created only for the purpose of participating in bounty campaigns. 95-100% filled with reports for bounty campaigns, airdrops signups, bounty signups, proves of authentication, altcoins announcements, altcoins ANN threads, translations all made for bounty or just spammy short posts. Most often inactive for a long time (but not always). In various ranks with a lot of posts written in a short period of time when bounties were most rewarding. Most of them do not have additional merits except for the guaranteed pool after the introduction of the system.

There are several types of such junk accounts. Some of them were/are used only for social media bounties others for signature bounties or for all of them at once. All these accounts followed a simple pattern. Create a Junk Account and write a few posts to achieve a jr member rank and start the bounties (level1). Further, with bounty reports boost the activity and post count to a higher rank, to be eligible for signature bounties with much higher stakes(level2). When rank achieved start participating with this account in all bounties (level3) and post spam all over the forum, to fulfill signature bounty requirements.

We have literally thousands of such Junk Accounts created by account farmers and other dishonest users, other members call them bots. Two years ago when bounty campaigns were most successful and the amount of spam on the forum was overwhelming, I started to report all types of fraud and that's when turned my attention to a new type of Junk Accounts and bots that are used only to participate in bounty campaigns. Reported thousands of them but this was a lost fight.


I am talking especially about social media bounties and accounts that were used to report these campaigns because this is the majority of junk accounts.
I found hundreds of accounts without a single normal post, only hundreds or even thousands of posts, only with reports with links to Tweets and Facebook likes.

Here are some examples that I found a moment ago after a fast search. It was enough to visit a random old bounty thread and check a few several accounts. It's literally hard to find any normal accounts between them and 95% are just like these ones listed below. I will just add that they are in different ranks from newbie even to senior member. Some even without one normal post.
It's just hard to believe.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1465626
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2150664
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1720191
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=63007
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1156683
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=69101
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1267327


Almost a year ago, bounty campaigns stopped to be so insanely profitable and in recent times, the number of scams has exceeded the scale of expectations and fewer members are taking part in them. On the fingers of one hand, you can count good-quality campaigns and many high-rank members have no signature at all or use it to advertise affiliate links.
This proves that the bounty campaigns are evolving and finally the matter of Junk Accounts should be resolved.

In my opinion, something should be done while is not too late. At this point, there is a good chance to do something without much damage to real accounts and members. Leaving these matter in the booth can create a real threat to the Bitcointalk forum in the future. I will try to explain why.

As you can see, most of these Junk Accounts are filled with 95-100% with social media campaign reports and the majority of them are currently not active for a long time which can be easily traced, flagged, tagged or untrusted, no matter what. Something has to be done which will be most appropriate and as less as possibly harmful for collateral victims. We have so many brilliant people on the forum that there would certainly be some scripts and tools to filter the forum. Mr. Merit himself could be useful.

Leaving this mess unresolved may result in selling junk accounts during the next crypto boom at a mass scale and after some time it will be very difficult to perform any action without causing major problems to the forum and other obvious difficulties such as new posts and people, who will buy these Junk Accounts in good faith, just to ensure a better start (18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged). After some time they can even be valuable and contributing members with a lot of votes and colleagues behind the back. There are even more dangers associated that we are not aware of right now because everything is evolving so fast. That is why a pragmatic person would like to avoid such problems in the future and resolve the matter if there is a chance.

I have participated in several bounty campaigns in recent years and I know for sure that users of these junk accounts are certainly not interested in being a real contributing member of Bitcointalk community and to discuss Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies or blockchain technology. If I would see that real people are behind these Junk Accounts and try to learn something or stay active (even with their spammy habits) I would reconsider to give them a fair chance for a clean start. But the majority are bots, made only for the money from the bounty campaigns and once turned out not profitable anymore they stopped to be active (no bounties - no reports) and that's probably not the point?

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April 16, 2019, 10:52:44 AM
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Maybe lets just delete accounts that are not active for, for example, 1 year ?

Its obvious that account owner has abandoned it. This could prevent forum from situation, when suddenty inactive account awakes and starts giving merits for strange posts.

From my point of view, all the long time inactive accounts are left for

1) merit selling in future
2) will be used as a high rank scam bounty topic starter (people will trust more to Sr.Member, than to Cooper member)
3) will be used for any other kind of scam promotion
4) will be sold or are being sold atm on different webpages/forums.

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April 16, 2019, 11:27:16 AM
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Maybe lets just delete accounts that are not active for, for example, 1 year ?


Not all inactive accounts are "junk". I ( Jet Cash ) registered this account to prevent it being used by somebody who was attempting to pass themselves off as me. I use this name Kuffy more widely than Jet Cash on the Internet. I don't want to create more confusion by posting regularly with yet another alt.

Please note - although I use some other alts, I am not the real Craig Wright - sorry I meant to post Satoshi Nakamoto. Smiley
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I personally do not mind accounts filled with posts with reports until they stick to the section created for this purpose. That's why the bounty section was created - it's place where bounty hunters who do not write "normal" posts have their own place and no one is forcing you to visit them ;-). Some probably can say I am defending them, but that's because my account was also filled with similar posts at the beginning of my activity here - in my case there were no bounty reports but only translations of ANN threads (which I think are a little more sensible) but my intentions were unfortunately similar.

The only reason they can disturb is filling up the database too much, but if Theymos does not have a problem with them, neither do I.
After that, if users did not break the regulations, why delete their accounts it would be unfair - they do not give a contribution to the forum, but also do not destroy it - something else in the case of spammers but here the situation is obvious for anyone.

I believe that we (means admins) shouldn't also delete inactive accounts - anyone can leave the forum for a while and come back here after a year or two without losing their account or rank. And the fact that there are many high-ranking accounts without a single merit - I would not delete them either - today we are not able to say whether or not users have made a very large contribution to the forum before the merit system was created. Removing such accounts would be the use of "collective responsibility", which I personally oppose.

Many similar discussions have already taken place on the forum. Another solution to this event would be to introduce a rule that it is necessary to earn some merit to keep the rank (as it was introduce with the case with jr. Member in september last year) but this is theymos authority


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April 16, 2019, 12:36:28 PM
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Maybe lets just delete accounts that are not active for, for example, 1 year ?
The final solution to low quality posters question...  Undecided Delete them all!
We have established with OP, in another thread, that it's not about banning but rather some form of tagging.
And so... the final solution is now changed to special badges...
I wonder in what colour and where they will be required to wear it...
hmm  Huh  maybe a number instead of a nickname...

I hope anyone sees the obvious analogy here? Cleansing is never a good way out.

The only reason they can disturb is filling up the database too much, but if Theymos does not have a problem with them, neither do I.
This! Smiley Basically ends the discussion, at least for me.  

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April 16, 2019, 02:05:18 PM
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I wouldn’t circumscribe the issue you rise just to "junk accounts". If I’m reading your point correctly, you are vouching for a purge of that sort of accounts, that have been inactive for quite some time, in case they were to spring back to like after being sold, with some meaningful associated rank and possibly some available sMerits.

If there is a risk that those junk accounts may be sold, the same goes for any longstanding inactive account (or otherwise). The fact that the content is basically social reports, does not add more risk to them being sold than any other account. Account sales is not prohibited, and although I do not like people being able to take such shortcuts, it remains an open front which is both doable and potentially non-uniformly pursued (tagged).

Making content specific decisions for accounts with posts that are not against the rules (but social report related) seems pretty harsh, and would give more ammunition to haters (and rightly so in this case).

By purge I guess you mean deletion, but since accounts are not deleted, the next closest would be a lockdown of some kind of these accounts. Nevertheless, people should be entitled to come back to their accounts after a period of inactivity if they wish.
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April 16, 2019, 02:53:08 PM
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Maybe lets just delete accounts that are not active for, for example, 1 year ?

Check this topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=898

This is how it would look if we delete inactive accounts (I put them on ignore temporarily):
Linked image, not embedded as it's a little too big  Grin
https://i.imgur.com/hOCaAiK.png

In my opinion, something should be done while it is not too late. At this point, there is a good chance to clean up this forum from these accounts without much damage to real accounts and users. Leaving these accounts in the booth can create a real threat to Bitcointalk in the future. I will try to explain why.

As you can see, most of these accounts are practically filled with 95 to 100% of social campaign reports. Many of them are currently not active accounts for a long time and can be easily traced and closed. We have so many brilliant people on the forum that there would certainly be some scripts and tools to filter the forum. Merit himself could be useful.

Leaving the matter unresolved may result in the fact that during the next boom junk accounts will be sold and after some time it will be very difficult to perform such a purge without major problems in the forum and obvious difficulties such as new posts and people who will buy these Junk Accounts in good faith, just to ensure a better start and after some time they can even be very good and valuable users with votes and strength of colleagues behind the back.

I don't see what the threat is?
Junk accounts have 0 merit, nobody is going to buy such an account, they would simply start their own and post the same crap.
Besides, "buying an account in good faith" and use it to spam bounty links...this sounds a bit weird to me  Grin

I don't see the "threat" nor the reason why we should start a witch hunt right now. (especially since the witch is on DT)  Grin Grin Grin




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April 16, 2019, 03:54:36 PM
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Accounts that of possible considered as junk accounts definitely will not be deleted unless admin will do it so. There are few threads already here stating that they want their account to be deleted because they will no longer want to access it. However, the replies emphasizes that it could never be done and I believe it so because of the number of users here that are not active but still counted as per number of users registered in the forum.
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April 16, 2019, 05:05:54 PM
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...We have established with OP, in another thread, that it's not about banning but rather some form of tagging.
...final solution is now changed to special badges...
...hmm  Huh  maybe a number instead of a nickname...
I hope anyone sees the obvious analogy here? Cleansing is never a good way out.
You can make a weapon even from harmless badges if you use it in the wrong way. We have just discussed possibilities and this one comes to my mind. After long consideration, we can use the trust system and add a proper notification with neutral trust by such accounts.

...If I’m reading your point correctly, you are vouching for a purge of that sort of accounts, that have been inactive for quite some time, in case they were to spring back to like after being sold, with some meaningful associated rank and possibly some available sMerits...
I am not vouching for a purge, more I am against it and only wanted to discuss with the community dangers associated with this type of accounts and to find a solution if possible. Now is the best time to do it with minimum harm for random victims.

...I guess you mean deletion, but since accounts are not deleted, the next closest would be a lockdown of some kind of these accounts. Nevertheless, people should be entitled to come back to their accounts after a period of inactivity if they wish...
No, I don't mean deletion. I am open to any possible solution. We can even use the trust feature for this and just add a proper note in these accounts with neutral rating to warn other users and block the possibility to sell and rip off another victim which buys this account because he is a newbie and don't know what "selling accounts is not prohibited" really means on this forum and will buy it.
You simplify a bit, my rule for a junk account looks completely different from your description. I mentioned a few different ways how you can recognize these accounts and it was not just inactivity.
What do I mean by the term Junk Accounts?

All accounts that were created only for the purpose of participating in bounty campaigns. 95 to 100 percent filled with reports for social bounty campaigns, airdrops signups, bounty signups, altcoins announcements, altcoins ANN threads, translations all made for bounty or just spammy short posts. Most often inactive for a long time (but not always). In various ranks with a lot of posts written in a short period of time when bounties were most rewarding. Most of them do not have additional merits except for the guaranteed pool after the introduction of the system.

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April 16, 2019, 06:09:14 PM
Last edit: April 16, 2019, 11:18:07 PM by wwzsocki
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...I don't see what the threat is?
1) merit selling in future
2) will be used as a high rank scam bounty topic starter (people will trust more to Sr.Member, than to Cooper member)
3) will be used for any other kind of scam promotion
4) will be sold or are being sold atm on different webpages/forums.
"and many more".

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...Junk accounts have 0 merit...
Not true there are many accounts with 1, 10, 100 and more merits from the time when the system started, just check my list correctly.

...Besides, "buying an account in good faith" and use it to spam bounty links...this sounds a bit weird to me  Grin...
Do you think that totally new person to Bitcointalk knows what this means: "18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged" if high-rank members with years of experience don't know for sure what that means until today? Together with countless other members caught after buying or selling and distrusted. There are threads popping up in meta frequently from such members.

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These "junk" accounts get rid of themselves. They are a threat to a certain degree, in that they are a headache and make our forum/community look more low-quality and fragmented than it actually is. I would think that enforcing the rules we have on the books is doing it's part to combat the problem. Junk accounts, alternate accounts and things like that are very difficult to track down without reasonable doubt (if there is any thought put into it), additionally it isn't against the rules. It all becomes rather moot.

We hold these accounts to the same standards as everyone else, as that is the best thing we can do.

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April 16, 2019, 07:34:29 PM
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These "junk" accounts get rid of themselves.

Exactly:

Not true there are many accounts with 1, 10, 100 and more merits from the time when the system started, just check my list correctly.
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https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=cryptoholder2018  banned
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=kyledavid banned
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=alexgold banned

No, I don't mean deletion. I am open to any possible solution. We can even use the trust feature for this and just add a proper note in these accounts with neutral rating to warn other users and block the possibility to sell and rip off another victim which buys this account because he is a newbie and don't know what "selling accounts is not prohibited" really means on this forum and will buy it.

Theymos was against tagging users for merit abuse and shitposting so I really doubt he will agree to this kind of tagging which would involve tens of thousands of accounts.

Besides, I don't like the idea of tagging a user just because he is doing bounty and that in the near future he might sell his account or sell merit. If theymos would have really wanted to get rid of those accounts he would have simply nuked the token bounty board and get rid of them all by pressing a button (or a few more) or he would have deleted the airdrop merit by now.

I think we're really starting a witch hunt at this point and from a discussion forum, we're turning it into a force labor merit camp.

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I somehow agree that these junk accounts are none threatening.
I will answer with other member words:
1) merit selling in future
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-Most of these junk accounts are definitely Member ranks down to Newbie ranks and Merit selling is impossible. So it's a none threatening for me.


Also, Deleting old and inactive accounts is a bad idea. Deletion of data/accounts will never be the correct way to clean up a mess in a system or community, backing-up is the right term. Deleting old accounts may cause for another account to rise with the same username of the deleted account (unless those deleted account's usernames are still saved somewhere and cannot be used) and might cause impersonating.

Locking old and inactive accounts forever is my suggested idea which means any owner of those accounts who has been inactive for (example more than 3 years) will have no access in their abandoned account. But they can still appeal.

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There are close to 1400 account at ranks Hero-legendary with 1-10 merits earned.

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271 Timo Y Legendary 1
381 FreeMoney Legendary 1
464 BioMike Legendary 1
704 caveden Legendary 1
844 TTBit Legendary 1
1171 btchris Hero Member 1
1515 dabbad Hero Member 1
1663 grondilu Legendary 1
1876 sturle Legendary 1
2228 Stephen Gornick Legendary 1
4129 TheKoziTwo Legendary 1
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Big part of them are still active. Even on well paid signature campaigns...
For example:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=436371 - windice - legendary member spammer posting one liners with obvious statements. I've seen his posts manny times. All were spam.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=891131 - stake.com - hero member -/-
and more (15 min search looking only on last 20 posts history):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=842046
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=826292
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=798271
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662318
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661329
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=776393
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=697888
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558226
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=533079
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525060

And many more...

I don't know if they are being paid for their signature (if they were accepted by managers) but they are wearing them.

That's the biggest cancer of this forum. When you post interesting topic and it has 13 pages of spam from users who's only purpose is to write more than 75 characters to count that post to signature campaign.


https://albertoit.github.io/Merit-Explorer-SQL/
Code:
SELECT '<a href=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=' || toid || '>' || toid || '</a>' as Userid,
username, rank, sum(merit) as merits from userdata, meritdata  where userid=toid and ( rank="Legendary" or rank="Hero Member") group by userid order by sum(merit)

And you will see whole list with hyperlinks to profiles. Great tool to search and report those spammers.


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April 17, 2019, 10:19:01 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=436371 - windice - legendary member spammer posting one liners with obvious statements
Have you tried reporting those users to their campaign managers? It's like a lot of spammers just evolued to pseudo-goodposters[1] and are getting money by lowering the general quality of the forum posts.

[1] Not blatantly spamming, but bursting posts w/ obvious things that have already been said or don't make any sense so their manager thinks that's a good post. Since most managers only take a small glance at their post history - not checking the post context - they can't know for sure if that's a HQ post or not. So they assume it is.

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April 17, 2019, 11:04:35 AM
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Have you tried reporting those users to their campaign managers?...

Of course, I have, multiple times. Not only to bounty managers but reported and keep reporting to mods. I encourage everyone to do this.


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April 19, 2019, 09:10:22 AM
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There are close to 1400 account at ranks Hero-legendary with 1-10 merits earned.
Can you sort out how many accounts at Senior Member rank with less than 10 merits earned since January of 2018?
And, the percentage of those less-than-10-merits-earned Senior Members per total Senior Members?

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Have you tried reporting those users to their campaign managers? It's like a lot of spammers just evolued to pseudo-goodposters[1] and are getting money by lowering the general quality of the forum posts.

I have never reported anyone to bounty manager. I only report spam to moderators but not as effective as wwzysocki. I really need to work on it harder because this forum can grow only if we will get rid of those pseudo-goodposters.
I've found out that majority of still active pseudo-goodposters from my list form https://albertoit.github.io/Merit-Explorer-SQL/ are alocated in userID >500000 range. Those are account that was created and level up to high ranks just before merit system implementation

There are close to 1400 account at ranks Hero-legendary with 1-10 merits earned.
Can you sort out how many accounts at Senior Member rank with less than 10 merits earned since January of 2018?
And, the percentage of those less-than-10-merits-earned Senior Members per total Senior Members?

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Userid UserName Rank merits
295 db Sr. Member 1
336 Insti Sr. Member 1
369 NghtRppr Sr. Member 1
490 ByteCoin Sr. Member 1
2033 Bruce Wagner Sr. Member 1
2099 m0Ray Sr. Member 1
2494 FairUser Sr. Member 1
2975 eMansipater Sr. Member 1
3600 Garrett Burgwardt Sr. Member 1
16411 Acejam Sr. Member 1
17076 box0214 Sr. Member 1
18408 sebdude420 Sr. Member 1
18753 ball4thegame Sr. Member 1
18765 Atheros Sr. Member 1
19792 nhodges Sr. Member 1
20016 MarketNeutral Sr. Member 1
22264 bitrebel Sr. Member 1
22672 goemon888 Sr. Member 1
23149 zakalwe Sr. Member 1
23186 Boov Sr. Member 1
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31936 telemen Sr. Member 1
34743 ThePiachu Sr. Member 1
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36643 bravetheheat Sr. Member 1
40580 BitcoinMint.US Sr. Member 1
42777 panic Sr. Member 1
43396 retrend Sr. Member 1
47375 JayCoin Sr. Member 1
49791 UNOE Sr. Member 1
52381 aysha9872 Sr. Member 1
55654 ikilledcobain Sr. Member 1
56989 fireduck Sr. Member 1
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61139 luxcoin Sr. Member 1
62554 flipperfish Sr. Member 1
64632 the_thing Sr. Member 1
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91089 Decagrog Sr. Member 1
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103204 DonYo Sr. Member 1
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105207 anti-scam Sr. Member 1
109073 singula Sr. Member 1
109882 cptdome1 Sr. Member 1
110732 technomancer Sr. Member 1
112605 TitanBTC Sr. Member 1
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119073 copyfile Sr. Member 1
119315 Ruggito Sr. Member 1
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154228 djsugar Sr. Member 1
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155759 bobthenager Sr. Member 1
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164367 mirx Sr. Member 1
169478 kenji Sr. Member 1
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195369 xploited Sr. Member 1
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202047 hoolio Sr. Member 1
204288 blacklig Sr. Member 1
206556 crimealone Sr. Member 1
208514 520Bit Sr. Member 1
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212121 elrugrim Sr. Member 1
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218757 VladimirN Sr. Member 1
220223 perez70 Sr. Member 1
220419 wojteks102 Sr. Member 1
220517 Gargo Sr. Member 1
220830 PotCoin Sr. Member 1
222111 amesterdamer Sr. Member 1
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227359 AltcoinAuthority Sr. Member 1
229259 somacoin Sr. Member 1
230458 fedoralite Sr. Member 1
230836 bandar Sr. Member 1
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238151 torrantz Sr. Member 1
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245341 landslide Sr. Member 1
245755 joter85 Sr. Member 1
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257779 goxcraft Sr. Member 1
257983 retnods Sr. Member 1
260800 blatchcorn Sr. Member 1
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288130 chaoscoinz Sr. Member 1
298279 oskuro Sr. Member 1
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304670 optigon Sr. Member 1
306069 mammon Sr. Member 1
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318891 Jocuserious Sr. Member 1
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323996 rayday11 Sr. Member 1
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335121 kludzins Sr. Member 1
339386 bamb Sr. Member 1
340165 spamsucks Sr. Member 1
340317 Lore06 Sr. Member 1
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357129 jjjordan Sr. Member 1
357394 jaypete Sr. Member 1
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360034 virtfund Sr. Member 1
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362982 KuromaYoichi Sr. Member 1
365672 kyxap Sr. Member 1
370374 MCDev Sr. Member 1
370805 matrix zion Sr. Member 1
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379863 xX_otto_Xx Sr. Member 1
380471 wozzek23 Sr. Member 1
380887 OZmaster Sr. Member 1
381592 BonTonPlease Sr. Member 1
383962 lotfiuser Sr. Member 1
385028 ZhuldyzKaladinova Sr. Member 1
388927 bitcoinmuseum Sr. Member 1
389715 arteis406 Sr. Member 1
395583 aidit45@gmail.com Sr. Member 1
396576 MillionsBTCdev Sr. Member 1
398462 50ouncebrew Sr. Member 1
399659 eagleflies Sr. Member 1
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406281 jay8291 Sr. Member 1
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484149 Camerieresimone Sr. Member 1
490480 Pe4kin Sr. Member 1
507872 FairlaySupport Sr. Member 1
510139 CTO@MyBitMine Sr. Member 1
512326 Twiggy Smile Sr. Member 1
513024 hardtime Sr. Member 1
514194 dusty_daniel Sr. Member 1
516415 rannovan Sr. Member 1
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523028 SummerBliss Sr. Member 1
523856 hodedowe Sr. Member 1
526179 ezajavo Sr. Member 1
528640 TronREX Sr. Member 1
530772 D ltr Sr. Member 1
533148 SatHunter Sr. Member 1
535825 smak9 Sr. Member 1
542516 Stroto Sr. Member 1
545031 3DBrushes Sr. Member 1
546242 Straux Sr. Member 1
546797 BitcoinReseller Sr. Member 1
547423 rkandrades Sr. Member 1
549004 iwasneverhere Sr. Member 1
550371 Sir_lagsalot Sr. Member 1
551372 Heartilly Sr. Member 1
554170 finishedgrey Sr. Member 1
555977 pontiy Sr. Member 1
555986 golovastik Sr. Member 1
558487 perfect999 Sr. Member 1
563625 BBoBB Sr. Member 1
570641 sweerty1 Sr. Member 1
610596 eli113 Sr. Member 1
616182 denam Sr. Member 1
650637 followmenot Sr. Member 1
657188 BTCRobinson Sr. Member 1
657716 GamingBro Sr. Member 1
665158 Cryder Sr. Member 1
665321 Emitdama Sr. Member 1
667924 Muhtaixa Sr. Member 1
669346 neinnein125 Sr. Member 1
671498 Taratoor Sr. Member 1
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676087 radnom Sr. Member 1
677415 alex219 Sr. Member 1
682112 yun9999 Sr. Member 1
684253 mrSamuel Sr. Member 1
685256 hugoworld Sr. Member 1
685523 btcprospecter Sr. Member 1
698356 Hallmader Sr. Member 1
709528 Nelka4 Sr. Member 1
721609 Reatim Sr. Member 1
721770 sesiah Sr. Member 1
727008 Crazygreek Sr. Member 1
728983 Mr.Pro Sr. Member 1
736224 yubsep Sr. Member 1
741991 pekacoin Sr. Member 1
753396 TedMosby Sr. Member 1
763796 ansi Sr. Member 1
765554 Quidat Sr. Member 1
772456 Wexnident Sr. Member 1
774789 Genemind Sr. Member 1
774897 jpucela14 Sr. Member 1
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801015 republicrypto Sr. Member 1
802321 simplelisten Sr. Member 1
808134 Netto Sr. Member 1
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816899 mega_carnation Sr. Member 1
817198 artdor Sr. Member 1
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833079 Xpod78 Sr. Member 1
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834424 demyan7 Sr. Member 1
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840117 Kamal Zenda Sr. Member 1
841746 00HasH Sr. Member 1
841835 Pixmartz Sr. Member 1
844996 Terraformer Sr. Member 1
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847092 josh20 Sr. Member 1
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851405 MEDVEDja2 Sr. Member 1
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857566 Tai_Pan Sr. Member 1
863461 MURONDI Sr. Member 1
864144 whaawh Sr. Member 1
864199 Descortes Sr. Member 1
865393 schnebihacked Sr. Member 1
874351 richardivan Sr. Member 1
876572 limmousine Sr. Member 1
878254 Forbiddenone Sr. Member 1
878415 rogvirtualmoney Sr. Member 1
881702 AlehandroTheGreat Sr. Member 1
885776 anog Sr. Member 1
886629 psihotoc Sr. Member 1
887751 amintek15 Sr. Member 1
888422 nerdralph Sr. Member 1
888884 Erichallig Sr. Member 1
889427 eagle10 Sr. Member 1
889849 gold969 Sr. Member 1
889959 ccminer.net Sr. Member 1
890825 anonbit992 Sr. Member 1
890842 wizmo Sr. Member 1
891268 bontol72 Sr. Member 1
891464 CryptoGirl.y Sr. Member 1
892638 KomodoPlatform Sr. Member 1
893032 labuan Sr. Member 1
893148 DynamQ Sr. Member 1
895286 GabryRox Sr. Member 1
895767 roidudisco Sr. Member 1
897809 aomakun Sr. Member 1
897919 Dim4ik Sr. Member 1
898090 bustedsynx Sr. Member 1
898805 kicauklaten Sr. Member 1
899451 registrstorm3 Sr. Member 1
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901306 hisuka Sr. Member 1
903360 DarkW Sr. Member 1
903806 Bailo Sr. Member 1
903979 aminodroid Sr. Member 1
904100 fia_naila Sr. Member 1
906625 keyboard warrior Sr. Member 1
906631 ololajulo Sr. Member 1
906856 Chronobank Sr. Member 1
907267 Nadia_l Sr. Member 1
908866 shodik007 Sr. Member 1
909819 devid2017btc Sr. Member 1
910217 itasannah Sr. Member 1
910477 PHPSELLER Sr. Member 1
911416 Huge Black Woman Sr. Member 1
911961 SMSabuj Sr. Member 1
912255 AliCris Sr. Member 1
912269 kate555 Sr. Member 1
912366 Drokzid Sr. Member 1
912614 jamyr Sr. Member 1
912699 namistyk Sr. Member 1
913602 tribanogrami Sr. Member 1
915072 bitman89 Sr. Member 1
915315 hedgeh0g Sr. Member 1
915732 sportis Sr. Member 1
916051 Sir Paijoe Sr. Member 1
916082 _Legendary_ Sr. Member 1
916113 mkmdoc Sr. Member 1
916708 BitSat Sr. Member 1
916776 Cherylstar86 Sr. Member 1
917227 Red Fish Sr. Member 1
918144 Elypse Sr. Member 1
918989 ustradebitcoin Sr. Member 1
919331 ugurusta Sr. Member 1
919442 jagdeepjd Sr. Member 1
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919666 13Winter13 Sr. Member 1
921229 King Sastro Sr. Member 1
921770 patrickj Sr. Member 1
922488 hidecoin2016 Sr. Member 1
922923 Nanda Dewi277 Sr. Member 1
924304 smyslov Sr. Member 1
925162 seven.71 Sr. Member 1
926240 Tipsters Sr. Member 1
926799 Drnice Sr. Member 1
928166 nakata90 Sr. Member 1
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932517 Greencandle Sr. Member 1
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934017 CUH Sr. Member 1
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934439 boyshx Sr. Member 1
934755 Fatoshi Sr. Member 1
938315 ArthurY Sr. Member 1
939451 RentGPU Sr. Member 1
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940437 BitGame777 Sr. Member 1
941199 fundyourself Sr. Member 1
941994 zokora Sr. Member 1
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942940 bobitza202 Sr. Member 1
943683 dylanc Sr. Member 1
943984 KnyazED Sr. Member 1
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947510 Clark05 Sr. Member 1
947776 whitefish Sr. Member 1
949598 ivankup Sr. Member 1
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952535 rommandos Sr. Member 1
954301 psycox Sr. Member 1
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963220 Bionicgalaxy Sr. Member 1
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966799 Bim abk Sr. Member 1
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967589 CarnagexD Sr. Member 1
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968077 kawacaki Sr. Member 1
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969607 Peashooter Sr. Member 1
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969898 Zeke_23 Sr. Member 1
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972554 lijoe408 Sr. Member 1
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972941 otong Sr. Member 1
973408 zz0233 Sr. Member 1
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974422 Andre_Goldman Sr. Member 1
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978975 Dayana_Lloyd Sr. Member 1
980580 Karitra1 Sr. Member 1
980621 mk2805 Sr. Member 1
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982530 UDONNA Sr. Member 1
982653 francesyrus Sr. Member 1
982669 demenBTC Sr. Member 1
982776 Odeoke Sr. Member 1
983794 furylmz Sr. Member 1
983938 Flapmin Sr. Member 1
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988720 Shadowkipper Sr. Member 1
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575 teknohog Sr. Member 2
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965356 CONANEDO Sr. Member 7
969266 MrSunshine Sr. Member 7
970225 bitzizzix Sr. Member 7
971544 Shishir99 Sr. Member 7
973054 NewStar Sr. Member 7
977915 pfrtlpfmpf Sr. Member 7
992404 joromz1226 Sr. Member 7
998392 schyter Sr. Member 7
1000761 Sungoku Sr. Member 7
1000813 PX-Z Sr. Member 7
1001153 Lethapudi Sr. Member 7
1018104 Partizant Sr. Member 7
1019228 Monta3002 Sr. Member 7
58891 kolsernik Sr. Member 8
136256 dadesu Sr. Member 8
140751 sg1983 Sr. Member 8
145198 removebeforeflight Sr. Member 8
145602 cableiso Sr. Member 8
146499 nalpagutt Sr. Member 8
277104 maccaspacca Sr. Member 8
295079 rupayacoin Sr. Member 8
355062 icio Sr. Member 8
355167 patrickus Sr. Member 8
359852 harbin55 Sr. Member 8
359855 loof99 Sr. Member 8
359858 mabell943 Sr. Member 8
363385 blissz Sr. Member 8
375097 TakeItEasy Sr. Member 8
416818 Jombrangs Sr. Member 8
831262 Mandoy Sr. Member 8
841360 rebrik7 Sr. Member 8
851556 iamnotback Sr. Member 8
852404 babar123 Sr. Member 8
868357 motors Sr. Member 8
885934 SamReomo Sr. Member 8
895026 Etherion Sr. Member 8
898442 Ursul0 Sr. Member 8
898821 kipoel Sr. Member 8
899381 ms-yuliya75 Sr. Member 8
900041 pawanjain Sr. Member 8
907686 Profitmaster1992 Sr. Member 8
909065 Muzika Sr. Member 8
909540 Deymos Sr. Member 8
911345 TechPriest Sr. Member 8
915840 MrJaekin Sr. Member 8
916983 tambok Sr. Member 8
929006 Ararbermas Sr. Member 8
935124 rinus Sr. Member 8
942755 radjie Sr. Member 8
943457 Anarchist Sr. Member 8
953805 CryptoWatcher420 Sr. Member 8
958449 viljy Sr. Member 8
959116 s31joemhar Sr. Member 8
961494 theunbeatable Sr. Member 8
962749 no0dlepunk Sr. Member 8
966944 Erickvand Sr. Member 8
972523 ostsee77 Sr. Member 8
991374 Porfirii Sr. Member 8
997101 Shofiqul Sr. Member 8
1000796 |Admiral| Sr. Member 8
1021018 r_victory Sr. Member 8
17870 Boing7898 Sr. Member 9
37742 btcgolong Sr. Member 9
109296 magisterr Sr. Member 9
229619 BTCHakan Sr. Member 9
253627 satcomcom Sr. Member 9
382534 withche.07 Sr. Member 9
407892 micromen Sr. Member 9
441120 Dobrii Sr. Member 9
448601 muslol67 Sr. Member 9
544475 Yannic Sr. Member 9
555984 peretss Sr. Member 9
717272 trecore4 Sr. Member 9
717966 Ctn Sr. Member 9
759110 Hui8 Sr. Member 9
809947 Termie Sr. Member 9
815650 Insanerman Sr. Member 9
840028 TeMHuK Sr. Member 9
878336 StallionMosquito Sr. Member 9
886811 pinkflower Sr. Member 9
890880 okinawa Sr. Member 9
896783 sensei stupid Sr. Member 9
908843 Steply Sr. Member 9
911248 krot1936 Sr. Member 9
912636 Edgemaster Sr. Member 9
929373 KeyGenKing Sr. Member 9
937069 yonton Sr. Member 9
937800 joebrook Sr. Member 9
954280 n00bby Sr. Member 9
961008 sujonali1819 Sr. Member 9
969156 BillCoin Sr. Member 9
978391 Wachter Sr. Member 9
980049 the1arty Sr. Member 9
980142 bixbem90 Sr. Member 9
980168 EvRo74 Sr. Member 9
989652 Jaycee99 Sr. Member 9
998721 truncus Sr. Member 9
1006356 ysakay Sr. Member 9
1007960 mirallas Sr. Member 9
1008978 Call_Me_Bambi Sr. Member 9
1008982 slmn Sr. Member 9
1013354 MainIbem Sr. Member 9
1019159 xenonflux Sr. Member 9


There are 1311 senior members with 1-9 merits earned since January 2018. There are 3076 senior members who have earned at least 1 merit. I don't know how many did not earn even 1 merit because they are not in database I'm using.

So answer to your question is: 43% senior members earned less than 10 merits out of all senior members who have earned at least 1 merit.

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SELECT '<a href=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=' || toid || '>' || toid || '</a>' as Userid,
username, rank, sum(merit) as merits from userdata, meritdata  where userid=toid and ( rank="Sr. Member") and date >= "2018-01-00T00:00:00" group by userid order by sum(merit)


Take a look at this guy. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355816
 Legendary member without even 1 merit earned. All posts are one-liners. I'm against bullying but in this sytuation i think that we sould add him to watchlist and report all his shitposts.
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Maybe DdmrDdmr will help you to get figure of total users at each rank. Wait for DdmrDdmr, I am sure he will help you.
There are 1311 senior members with 1-9 merits earned since January 2018. There are 3076 senior members who have earned at least 1 merit. I don't know how many did not earn even 1 merit because they are not in database I'm using.

So answer to your question is: 43% senior members earned less than 10 merits out of all senior members who have earned at least 1 merit.
I don't see reason to report shitposters  Huh I only think that we should report their shitpost
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Take a look at this guy. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355816
 Legendary member without even 1 merit earned. All posts are one-liners. I'm against bullying but in this sytuation i think that we sould add him to watchlist and report all shitposts.

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I don't know how many did not earn even 1 merit because they are not in database I'm using.
...

A few months ago, I carried out an analysis of exactly this issue: high ranked members without merits. Today, after a few months, her results are certainly not accurate, but I think that they give a good view of the whole situation.


I took this number than checked how many users has ranked up since July. To check it I took all users who has received any merit from https://albertoit.github.io/Merit-Explorer-SQL/ than checked current merit number on the bitcointalk.com site. After deduction I got the number of airdropped merit to each user (who have received at least one merit). Then I checked once again on merit explorer number of merit given till July. Thanks to that I was able to correct mazdafunsun’s result with rank promotions
by merit since July (there still be some inaccuracy because probably some users has been promoted since July by activity, unfortunately I have no way to check it...)

After comparing these results with given merit in merit explorer I’ve received such set of data:

Rank                       number of users      number of users      
received at least
1 merit

number of users      
with who didn’t
earn any merit

Member27 9184 744 (17%)23 174  (83%)
Full Member18 1813 173 (17,45%)15 008  (82,55%)
Sr. Member9 0161 818 (20,16%)7 198  (79,84%)
Hero Member4 1431 105 (26,67%)3 038  (73,33%)
Legendary2 1451 133 (52,82%)1 012  (47,18%)
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It looks like there are really plenty of high ranked users who hasn't earn even one merit yet. Probably some of them are "dead souls" - users who aren't active for many month or even years, but for sure there are as well a lot of "ranked" users who simply didn't deserved any merit yet. This number decreases (percentage) with the increase of rhe rank, but its level in all groups (maybe exept Legendary) remains high.

So  guys look at these numbers and be little more lenient for newbies and jr. members  as you see the rank not always it determines their value...


Since you have used only merit database, you could not see the scale of the phenomenon of high-ranking users without merits. As you can see the results are much worse than you probably expected ...

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There is a huge amount of accounts that were registered that haven't made a single post.  Perhaps those on es could get deleted as a lot of them contain usernames that others may wish to have.
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Thank you for your answers @TytanowyJanusz, @Cryptovigi, @tbct_mt2, and other members.

I see that the scale of Junk Accounts keeps getting larger the longer we are talking.

Few posts above I have published a screen with my reports statistics to show that I tried my best to do something with this Junk Accounts from a longer time.

After thousands of reports, I just gave up because there was 10 new spam post after I managed to report one.

I have even taken part in a special group where we have cleaned spammy threads and reported them to mods for deletion.

All these efforts show no effect and finally, I just stopped to take any action after multiple reports of spammers account.

Despite everything, they were never banned because only spammed the forum and this is not a permaban misdeed.

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@wwzysocki I was thinking a lot how to fight against spammers, pseudo-goodposters and i came up with this thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136341.new#new
Hope you will like it. Of it's pilot competition. If it will work i'll host one by one.
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...Besides, I don't like the idea of tagging a user just because he is doing bounty and that in the near future he might sell his account or sell merit...

Not "because he is doing a bounty" only multiple social media campaigns at the same time (in the past or even now) and most of this accounts are not active from the time when bounties were not profitable anymore. Additionally, there are no normal posts in this junk accounts only signups to airdrops and bounty campaigns registrations.
Sometimes there are posts if such junk account takes part in a signature campaign (Level 3) but you will find nothing more as spam like "great project" or "to the moon".
Additionally, no merits awarded from other members in months of time or not active from a year or more.

This is what I meant not a normal member which takes a part in a signature campaign and writes quality posts.
I think is an obvious difference between these two types of accounts?

You just simplify too much @Stompix, this is not a discussion when you take a few words out of the context from my article, like the above quote.
I never said that I have something against regular, frequently active members who are involved in bounties or to tag them because of bounties, I am a bounty hunter by myself

Lately, @Theymos banned Yobit campaign and all spammers involved.
Today, if there is only a little more spam on the forum, we recognize this immediately because from almost a year there are no big bounties and spam is at the minimum, right now.
Two years ago such a Yobit campaign would have no impact on the forum because there were literally hundreds of such spammy campaigns and nobody would tag involved bounty hunters for spam. Additionally, I never heard about signature and participants ban, this is something new and I am happy that happened. Something can be done and now is the best time.

Don't let abusers the possibility to keep or sell this Junk Accounts in the future, when better times for cryptocurrencies come back and FOMO mania begins again.

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There is a huge amount of accounts that were registered that haven't made a single post.  Perhaps those on es could get deleted as a lot of them contain usernames that others may wish to have.

Here I can't agree.

No matter what if somebody registered then maybe he is actively reading but not posting. I don't see any threat in such accounts. Personally, I was reading this forum for almost 2 years before registering. I can imagine that there are people who are registered for a long time and haven't posted even once but maybe they use PM's and read the forum. You can never know only mods are able to see this and as I said: no threat they are harmful.

You will have to stay by your actual username which is quite catchy also   Wink.

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Finally, something has been done and we are experiencing a wave of bans on the forum for plagiarism and other abuse of rules.

This is just great and the quality of the forum would be a lot higher without this junk accounts.

@LoyceV created a few great threads to keep up with banned members if somebody is involved in spam reporting for example.

This is a waste of time to report banned members posts, so check this: Banned users thread first if you need to know who is banned actually.

A wave of bans: 400 yesterday, 300 the day before. What changed?
Autobans (the week before) February 1
Autobans (the week before) March 1
Autobans (the week before) April 1

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This is a waste of time to report banned members posts, so check this: Banned users thread first if you need to know who is banned actually.
...
This is the reason I would support to change the user's rank to 'Banned' instead of the Newbie, Sr. member etc. ranks, if the user has been already banned.
I know the whole forum would look horrible, because of the amount of the banned users, but it would be useful for those who are searching for proper information on the forum, they could quickly exlude the unnecessary posts from a topic
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This is the reason I would support to change the user's rank to 'Banned' instead of the Newbie, Sr. member etc. ranks, if the user has been already banned...

Fully agree with you. I don't know if a banned tag or maybe something else, but for sure one should easily see if the member is banned or not.

I think this is not a secret and should be easy to verify and today even when using BPIP.org is not easy to check banned users.

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This is the reason I would support to change the user's rank to 'Banned' instead of the Newbie, Sr. member etc. ranks, if the user has been already banned...

Fully agree with you. I don't know if a banned tag or maybe something else, but for sure one should easily see if the member is banned or not.

I think this is not a secret and should be easy to verify and today even when using BPIP.org is not easy to check banned users.
Thanks for that Smiley
It has been proposed and mentioned several times but it seems that Theymos just don't want to implement this kind of feature in the near future (or ever)...
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...proposed and mentioned several times but it seems that Theymos just don't want to implement this kind of feature...

I just found that in BPIP.org, we can see if the user is banned, I have never seen this before.
 
Would be better to see this immediately here on the forum, but is better than nothing or to search in compilation threads of banned users, because it takes a lot of time.

The time is the key factor here. Nobody wants another tag or something, only to spare the time for everybody (members, moderators).

How many times did somebody report banned users posts, only because he wasn't aware of that fact?

Additional work and lost time, only because we miss a small feature.

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Would be better to see this immediately here on the forum, but is better than nothing or to search in compilation threads of banned users, because it takes a lot of time.

If you can't see it on a user's profile, you can Ctrl+F their user id in the modlog https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php, I think it goes 3 weeks back.


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If you can't see it on a user's profile, you can Ctrl+F their user id in the modlog https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php, I think it goes 3 weeks back.

Thank you @Malevolent this modlog works pretty good but only with recent bans (as you said is only 3 weeks).

In the last few days, I was using Bpip.org to check banned members and I have to say that this is so far the best method available.
I was working on a thread with a lot of spam and that is why I had to find the best way to check banned members.

Literally, I need 3 clicks to check this on Bpip.org which is ok. This is all about the time because every second is important when you work online.
Especially, when one is reporting multiple posts or members using the report button and additionally has to check them manually for a ban to avoid double work.

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Additional work and lost time, only because we miss a small feature.
This has been discussed before, but theymos has never seemed keen to act on it. I've always kind of felt that it probably isn't great to display a banned tag to all users, as it would prejudice people against that account's posts, which could otherwise be entirely accurate and constructive, kind of the same way we don't display trust on every board. However, I think it should be displayed to all users who have reported >1000/3000/5000/whatever reports, as as you say, it would save a lot of time investigating and reporting already banned accounts.

Still, you can get your three clicks down to one if you install the BPIP Firefox or Chrome extension, which will put a link to each user's BPIP profile under their username: BPIP.org Chrome & FireFox Extension.
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...Still, you can get your three clicks down to one if you install the BPIP Firefox or Chrome extension, which will put a link to each user's BPIP profile under their username: BPIP.org Chrome & FireFox Extension.

Great suggestion o_e_l_e_o, I didn't know about this BPIP.org extension for Chrome & Firefox browsers.

With this extension checking, banned users take indeed only a single click and really works great but from few months I am using Brave as my main browser.

Anyways, I will try to use FireFox when I will be working on reports. Or maybe there is a way to get it working in Brave too?

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I have only very briefly used Brave, so I can't give you a full answer here. However, since Brave is based on Chromium (the same framework that Chrome is based on), many Chrome extensions will also be compatible with Brave, and it should be as simple as installing them from the Chrome Web Store. Have a look here for some more information: https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360017909112-How-can-I-add-extensions-to-Brave

The Chrome Web Store link for the BPIP extension is here: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bpiporg-chrome-extension/gnpadhillpjighiahdbjbjgihpilakda
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I personally do not mind accounts filled with posts with reports until they stick to the section created for this purpose.
Exactly.  There have been thousands of so-called "junk accounts" ever since I've been a member here, and as long as they're just posting their bounty information in that section, I could care less.  The only real problem with them is when their bounties require them to make posts on bitcointalk--and we all know that happens.

There's not much we can do about it anyway except to report garbage posts and hope the users get banned.  The recent mass banning of plagiarists was a godsend IMO, and the forum definitely needed a good housecleaning. 

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July 02, 2019, 07:42:45 AM
Last edit: July 06, 2019, 07:31:11 AM by wwzsocki
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Thank you for this info I will check it and hope it will work in Brave.

...The recent mass banning of plagiarists was a godsend IMO, and the forum definitely needed a good housecleaning.  

Indeed when the wave of bans started I felt like something is finally done with "Junk Accounts". All these bots are making great work cleaning this forum and the difference is obvious.
Two years ago I was daily reporting dozens of posts only when I was just reading the forum, not for a purpose. Lately, this is only a few reports in a week, which makes a huge difference in reading and content quality. Of course, I still try to avoid spammy sections and threads.

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