Buy the DIP, and HODL!

[Felicity_Tide]

To invest in Bitcoin, you only need to have the ability to take risks, you see MicroStrategy company is ready to invest in Bitcoin at any time.

The ability to take risk is not the only thing you need to invest in bitcoin. There are other things that you need to put in place that will help you invest in bitcoin and successfully hold it for a long term. You need resources, and patience also. Well every individual or organisation have their own risk levels. And no one should be motivated or be motivated to go beyond that their risk level, because if they go beyond that level, it might be catastrophic. So I don't think it's wise enough to motivate anyone with microstrategy bitcoin buying history. Let everyone invest in bitcoin according to their financial capacity and programming.Things like this might make some newbies take some irrational decisions, because they might feel they ain't doing as much as microstrategy is doing. And they might go beyond their means. Which will later have severe effects on other aspects of their lives. We ain't microstrategy, so let's operate on our own time frame and speed.

Exactly what I wanted to point out.
I shouldn't be motivated to invest in Bitcoin just because microstrategy keeps pouring heavy amount in. I know my resource and how often it comes in, so I should be able to invest according to my own definition of risk, because I believe everyone has what he/she can risk. But the only thing I can genuinely say that I have learned/observed from Microstrategy and their purchasing strategy, is that they might be doing this for a long term. I noticed that they don't care much about Bitcoin's price before fetching some Bitcoin for themselves, which should practically be a natural routine for those who DCA as well.

Though, making comparison shouldn't be the way forward, but rather, learning from what they do, like their long term strategic approach. And like I have always said, creating a goal and objectives matters. Some investor's primary goal might just be to invest for a specific number of years, while others might make more emphasis on the fraction of Bitcoin to accumulate for a number of years, which might also be Microstrategy's approach.

Long term goal + fractions expected to be accumulated

[Bd officer]

The ability to take risk is not the only thing you need to invest in bitcoin. There are other things that you need to put in place that will help you invest in bitcoin and successfully hold it for a long term. You need resources, and patience also. Well every individual or organisation have their own risk levels. And no one should be motivated or be motivated to go beyond that their risk level, because if they go beyond that level, it might be catastrophic. So I don't think it's wise enough to motivate anyone with microstrategy bitcoin buying history. Let everyone invest in bitcoin according to their financial capacity and programming.Things like this might make some newbies take some irrational decisions, because they might feel they ain't doing as much as microstrategy is doing. And they might go beyond their means. Which will later have severe effects on other aspects of their lives. We ain't microstrategy, so let's operate on our own time frame and speed.

We have to admit that the best way to invest in Bitcoin is the DCA method, it is a good way for every investor. To hold Bitcoin for the long term we need to have confidence that Bitcoin will do well in the future, we need to take risks and be patient. What I have learned from my real experience, is to invest what you can afford to lose in order to hold Bitcoin for the long term. I invest in Bitcoin and forget that I invested in Bitcoin. So I prefer to buy Bitcoin even at this time, my plan is to continue investing with DCA method until 2029. Now everyone has a different strategy, one person's plan will not match another's.

[Sim_card]

When looking at both of traders and investors, I wonder why most people would just choose a difficult path of an easy part, and the funny thing there is that, trading have no significant changes on your finances status, it's just for minimal gains that will just improve your life for the time being, if you don't lose all your money in the process, but in the case of investing in Bitcoin, it's just like and easy ride to greatness because even a newbie investors can buy Bitcoin with any accumulating strategy of it choice, once he or she is able to acquire a very good stash of it, his duty is to hold for a very long period of time, and all the requirement needed to achieve that is to have a reliable source of income and an emergency funds set aside so as to be able to withstand any emergencies that may arise in the future without you dipping hands into your holds.

It is assumed that with trading you can make profit faster than you will do with investing by buying bitcoin either at a lump-sum or with the DCA approach and hold for a long period of years before making profit.

For such people it's believe that before the time you get to wait to have your bitcoin investment matured, if you were trading you could have made much more but that's a blatant lie and deceptive, because profit making in trading is never guaranteed as it is with long term hodling on your bitcoin investment plan which comes with huge ROI. Bitcoin investment is similar to making and building a savings for the future just by following the bitcoin investment rules.

Doing trading you would trade the stability of your investment for its potential.
With Bitcoin - everything is certain, in 3-4 years, you will get a great PNL and the results will be there.
If you are going to trade all this time - it's not certain whether you would be in profit or not, and would that profit be bigger than just DCAing or lump-buying BTC?

Personally, 3-4 years is a small timeline because you are not sure if you will be in profit by then. However, when investing in bitcoin profit shouldn't be considered first but a long-term goal so that it can enable have the time to accumulate more bitcoin overtime. Having a bitcoin target and work towards achieving it is the best so that it will allow you stay more focus on increasing your bitcoin faster till it gets to your target.

If you are planning for short-term like one circle, it will make you miss a lot from the compounding value of bitcoin and also you will regret in future for not hodling longer and increasing your bitcoin stash. When you also think about profits, that will distract you when you see little profit to sell when it's wasn't your plan. Focus more on how to increase your bitcoin stash than how much profit that you have made, because in the long run, you will be in profit because bitcoin is still growing.

[EarnOnVictor]

It is assumed that with trading you can make profit faster than you will do with investing by buying bitcoin either at a lump-sum or with the DCA approach and hold for a long period of years before making profit.

This is not as easy as they say, trading is risky and one should consider their equity/liquidation level before doing that. What if the liquidity is not high? That account will certainly be put to trouble. But in investing, no matter how little or much you have, your Bitcoin will remain your Bitcoin and if it drops so low, one day, it will get back to your striking price and even edge it higher for you to make money without the risk of liquidation.

Also, every investment approach is good for Bitcoin, you may buy low, DCA etc, what matters is for you not to miss out on the slice of the world cake.

[Samlucky O]

When looking at both of traders and investors, I wonder why most people would just choose a difficult path of an easy part, and the funny thing there is that, trading have no significant changes on your finances status, it's just for minimal gains that will just improve your life for the time being, if you don't lose all your money in the process, but in the case of investing in Bitcoin, it's just like and easy ride to greatness because even a newbie investors can buy Bitcoin with any accumulating strategy of it choice, once he or she is able to acquire a very good stash of it, his duty is to hold for a very long period of time, and all the requirement needed to achieve that is to have a reliable source of income and an emergency funds set aside so as to be able to withstand any emergencies that may arise in the future without you dipping hands into your holds.

It is assumed that with trading you can make profit faster than you will do with investing by buying bitcoin either at a lump-sum or with the DCA approach and hold for a long period of years before making profit.

Fuck trading and fuck fast profit.. actually many people can trade including making profit from it but i dont give a fuck about them and how they see it, because as far as i know short time profit and long term profit can not be compared even as some traders claim they make profit from trading, but i prefer long term profit because it gives me the time to do other important things and invest altoger, unlike trading that makes you not to have quality time for yourself or don't allow a person to have rest of mind because there mind is always at the buy/sell Order and always have emotional problem when they lose. so in conclusion traders may make some decent amount but can't in any way be compared to long term investment.

For such people it's believe that before the time you get to wait to have your bitcoin investment matured, if you were trading you could have made much more but that's a blatant lie and deceptive, because profit making in trading is never guaranteed as it is with long term hodling on your bitcoin investment plan which comes with huge ROI. Bitcoin investment is similar to making and building a savings for the future just by following the bitcoin investment rules.

i find it difficult to understand if you are in support of trading and or hodling because your statement looks two sided with no direct meaning. i think you should be more specific in terms of explaining the difference between trading and hodling.

[Wind_FURY]

I believe that with the "Sovereigns", or the "Nation-States", formulating their plans on how to buy/how much to buy Bitcoin, the people behind the smaller Sovereigns are probably deciding whether to buy or not.

What's the point of this? The actual point is that the game theory behind Bitcoin ownership has changed. Those smaller Sovereigns SHOULD buy, or they lose to the Bitcoin Game to Sovereigns that HODL. We, as individuals, who have already bought Bitcoin should probably keep owning it until we see an actual top.

The top? That's probably when Bitcoin's total market value is more than Gold's total market value.

[Futurexxx]

It is assumed that with trading you can make profit faster than you will do with investing by buying bitcoin either at a lump-sum or with the DCA approach and hold for a long period of years before making profit.

This is not as easy as they say, trading is risky and one should consider their equity/liquidation level before doing that. What if the liquidity is not high? That account will certainly be put to trouble. But in investing, no matter how little or much you have, your Bitcoin will remain your Bitcoin and if it drops so low, one day, it will get back to your striking price and even edge it higher for you to make money without the risk of liquidation.

Also, every investment approach is good for Bitcoin, you may buy low, DCA etc, what matters is for you not to miss out on the slice of the world cake.

This is the major highlight here, and I think you are 100% right, the major thing here is buying when the funds is available not based on when you feels right, because by procrastinating and waiting for the dip when you have the funds to buy, you might miss out on accumulating a good stash of Bitcoin due to too much waiting for dips that doesn't always come around, sometimes  the price of Bitcoin can rise from where it was which will eventually makes him or her to get discouraged and not to even buy again, so it is very important that once the funds is available, you buy and accumulate regardless of the present price of Bitcoin.

As for trading, it's not for everyone because the risk attached to it is way too much if you haven't masters it, unlike investment in Bitcoin that anyone that has the basic knowledge on how to buy and all that is requires to hold can be  successfully in it, once they have a source of income and an emergency fund.

[Olatundespo]

When looking at both of traders and investors, I wonder why most people would just choose a difficult path of an easy part, and the funny thing there is that, trading have no significant changes on your finances status, it's just for minimal gains that will just improve your life for the time being, if you don't lose all your money in the process, but in the case of investing in Bitcoin, it's just like and easy ride to greatness because even a newbie investors can buy Bitcoin with any accumulating strategy of it choice, once he or she is able to acquire a very good stash of it, his duty is to hold for a very long period of time, and all the requirement needed to achieve that is to have a reliable source of income and an emergency funds set aside so as to be able to withstand any emergencies that may arise in the future without you dipping hands into your holds.

It is assumed that with trading you can make profit faster than you will do with investing by buying bitcoin either at a lump-sum or with the DCA approach and hold for a long period of years before making profit.

For such people it's believe that before the time you get to wait to have your bitcoin investment matured, if you were trading you could have made much more but that's a blatant lie and deceptive, because profit making in trading is never guaranteed as it is with long term hodling on your bitcoin investment plan which comes with huge ROI. Bitcoin investment is similar to making and building a savings for the future just by following the bitcoin investment rules.

Doing trading you would trade the stability of your investment for its potential.
With Bitcoin - everything is certain, in 3-4 years, you will get a great PNL and the results will be there.
If you are going to trade all this time - it's not certain whether you would be in profit or not, and would that profit be bigger than just DCAing or lump-buying BTC?

With a cycle that is four years it may take longer to get a decent enough holding to accumulate Bitcoin and you should increase your holdings according to this time frame. Be sure to consider the time frame in investing by successfully accumulating a full cycle of it by passing your own test. What the signal indicates is that you need to continue accumulating Bitcoin for a longer period of time which is a few more cycles which is a huge holding regardless of the price. After 3-4 years you can enter your independent process but for that you need to reach your desired goal and I am pretty sure that you will continue to run DCAing for a long time and this should be uninterrupted. By embracing Bitcoin you are flexible in your efforts to further expand your desired goal which is the most acceptable way to reach that goal.

Trading strategies may be good but it is risky for you and to do this you need to accumulate a lot of capital and continuous hard work in the market based on potential talent. The DCA strategy is simple and involves setting aside a consistent 4-10 year period for Bitcoin accumulation. All you need for long-term Bitcoin accumulation is discretionary income and mental preparation, patience and the goal is to try to get a large Bitcoin holding. To use your talent, you can choose other financial sectors that can benefit you more financially and in the long term the DCA strategy.

[Stablexcoin]

It is assumed that with trading you can make profit faster than you will do with investing by buying bitcoin either at a lump-sum or with the DCA approach and hold for a long period of years before making profit.

Fuck the assumption of trading is better than investing. What do they know? We cannot compare the benefit of trading to Bitcoin investment and I want to believe that any discussion of trading here seems to be deviating from the original conversation we have here. Even the few persons who were lucky to make some bucks in trading most of them ended up losing everything. The choice of investment in Bitcoin here is DCA although any other strategy as long as it is implemented properly and there is consistency in accumualtinn no investor will regret every buying Bitcoin.

For such people it's believe that before the time you get to wait to have your bitcoin investment matured, if you were trading you could have made much more but that's a blatant lie and deceptive, because profit making in trading is never guaranteed as it is with long term hodling on your bitcoin investment plan which comes with huge ROI. Bitcoin investment is similar to making and building a savings for the future just by following the bitcoin investment rules.

Do me a favor and ask them "Where is the proof?". Most of persons tend to be very optimistic based on what they have calculated in their minds especially those traders at the end of the day they leave the market with nothing. The chances are very slim for such persons, in fact only a few percent of people involved in trading get profit after all the hassling. But I can boast of knowing multiple investors who are successful in Bitcoin investment.

Micro strategy and the new companies approaching Bitcoin investment are no fools. At least if these persons don't want to listen to other investors they should learn from the big names. Don't get me wrong am not saying they should agree to all decisions make by these big companies but they should understand the reason why they choose to invest huge funds in Bitcoin rather than trading it.

[Lida93]

It is assumed that with trading you can make profit faster than you will do with investing by buying bitcoin either at a lump-sum or with the DCA approach and hold for a long period of years before making profit.

This is not as easy as they say, trading is risky and one should consider their equity/liquidation level before doing that. What if the liquidity is not high? That account will certainly be put to trouble. But in investing, no matter how little or much you have, your Bitcoin will remain your Bitcoin and if it drops so low, one day, it will get back to your striking price and even edge it higher for you to make money without the risk of liquidation.

Also, every investment approach is good for Bitcoin, you may buy low, DCA etc, what matters is for you not to miss out on the slice of the world cake.

Liquidity or not I will not advise any newbie to venture into trading immediately but should take the time rather to be stashing some bitcoin for a long time plan as it's going to pay off than trading would in the long run. I have been there and I know how stressful and tasking trading could be and that's why we have large percentage of losers in trading than profit makers. Whereas in bitcoin investment just as you have said you just have to keep stashing either buying at a low or use the DCA approach and hodl and cast your mind on other real life activities while your investment reap you profit with time. The important aspect of it all is that when investing in bitcoin you don't just lose except you panic out of market FUD and sell at a premature period.

[MusaPk]

No reasonable Bitcoin investor or someone that truly believe in Bitcoin will be distracted by this trump coin that was newly launched,  it is obviously a rug pull game waiting to happen, and it's going to manifest in no distance time, it is just a matter of time, because with all the hype's surrounding it, president trump wouldn't even step down before the coin will start crashing down, so it would be very stupid for any Bitcoineer to even consider investing in it, with all the knowledge he or she has attained in this forum.
So in my opinion, the best way to overcome such distractions is not even entertaining such news on the progress trump's coin or any other coin has grown so far, because it's just a  disaster waiting to happen, if you falls for the hype.

This coin is another example how alt coins can steal your money and have short life. One or two days back this coin was going all the way up but now it has started it's down word moment. Now in few more days it will be like just another alt coin that rose up for few days and cease to exist with passage of time.

The more we pay attention to such alts, more are our chances of distraction. We must make a simple rule that we will focus and invest in Bitcoin only no matter how much profit alts are giving at any moment.        

Fear or doubt will be defeated if they really realize and study everything well, especially knowing the Bitcoin trail from the beginning until now and beyond, fear and doubt will disappear and turn into a strong belief because only belief makes them steadfast no matter what happens because their goal is only one, namely the long term without an unspecified time limit until they get very big profits in the long term. And by having strong beliefs, of course they will be consistent in doing so and the profits seen on the way will motivate them to continue collecting Bitcoin until they are satisfied to get much bigger profits in the future.

Trump and Melania coins are currently a hype that I think will not last long and is also very risky, we should not discuss it here because here we only recommend Bitcoin which is proven and really provides very perfect benefits and security and is not even risky as long as we treat it for the long term.

It must be clear by now after 14 years of Bitcoin launch that it's the only coin that can survive on it's own. Survival rate of other alts is also visible and we can safely conclude that they are not worthy to be tried because of there short life. Success in Bitcoin may not be in short duration but if we invest for long duration, while investing in alts is just like gambling with your money.

Such alts (Trump and Melania) with keep coming with time to time and we just need to have one stance for them i.e. stay away from them.

[PremiumcryptoHub]

The ability to take risk is not the only thing you need to invest in bitcoin. There are other things that you need to put in place that will help you invest in bitcoin and successfully hold it for a long term. You need resources, and patience also. Well every individual or organisation have their own risk levels. And no one should be motivated or be motivated to go beyond that their risk level, because if they go beyond that level, it might be catastrophic. So I don't think it's wise enough to motivate anyone with microstrategy bitcoin buying history. Let everyone invest in bitcoin according to their financial capacity and programming.Things like this might make some newbies take some irrational decisions, because they might feel they ain't doing as much as microstrategy is doing. And they might go beyond their means. Which will later have severe effects on other aspects of their lives. We ain't microstrategy, so let's operate on our own time frame and speed.

We have to admit that the best way to invest in Bitcoin is the DCA method, it is a good way for every investor. To hold Bitcoin for the long term we need to have confidence that Bitcoin will do well in the future, we need to take risks and be patient. What I have learned from my real experience, is to invest what you can afford to lose in order to hold Bitcoin for the long term.

Every investor's investment style will never be the same because everyone can invest in different ways. Investing through DCA strategy is possible for everyone, meaning investing in this method is much easier for everyone. That is why this method is considered one of the best methods for investing by everyone. In fact, with this method, people of any profession can now easily start investing with even a small portion of their income. To invest through this method, the investor must purchase bitcoins continuously and aim to hold his investment for a long period of time.

I invest in Bitcoin and forget that I invested in Bitcoin. So I prefer to buy Bitcoin even at this time, my plan is to continue investing with DCA method until 2029.

We should continue investing until we have accumulated enough Bitcoin, i.e. That is until you think you have accumulated enough bitcoins. Maybe you should increase your investment time so that you are able to accumulate more bitcoins.

[Agbamoni]

To invest in Bitcoin, you only need to have the ability to take risks, you see MicroStrategy company is ready to invest in Bitcoin at any time. At present, the price of Bitcoin is going high, but they are not deprived of Bitcoin investment, rather they will buy Bitcoin today.
 Because they are following this DCA method, they are investing in Bitcoin regularly every week, this investment will make more Bitcoin investors excited for them in the future. And they are playing a significant role in making the Bitcoin market boom, you can see it and you can see their investment history, it will encourage every investor.

Details: https://cointelegraph.com/news/micro-strategy-saylor-hints-bitcoin-buy-11-consecutive-week

Rist taking alone isn't enough to make a successful investor so in that part you are getting it all wrong. There are other things to put in place to have a solid investment. The micro-strategy you used as an example does not blindly take risks when investing. They had a solid strategy in place and that is what paved the way for them. Also, we cannot compare the purchasing strength of one individual investor to the purchasing strength of a company with so many big investors. So that means it is not a must to use the same strategy Mirco Strategy is using to buy Bitcoin if it doesn't suit their financial strength. An individual investor has to find a suitable strategy that aligns with his investment goals and financial power.

[Jewan420]

It must be clear by now after 14 years of Bitcoin launch that it's the only coin that can survive on it's own. Survival rate of other alts is also visible and we can safely conclude that they are not worthy to be tried because of there short life. Success in Bitcoin may not be in short duration but if we invest for long duration, while investing in alts is just like gambling with your money.
Such alts (Trump and Melania) with keep coming with time to time and we just need to have one stance for them i.e. stay away from them.

Bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme. You must wait a long time to succeed from Bitcoin. If you ask Bitcoin to give you quick profits like Altcoins, then you will be wrong. Because Altcoins are like gambling. It is absolutely impossible to say when it will happen. You may win from Altcoins at some point but your money is at risk. Here the chances of losing your money are higher. In the long run, it may not give you a big benefit or you may lose everything.

But the chances of you losing from Bitcoin in the long run are very low. I think Bitcoin is the only digital currency from which the chances of getting profit are very high for long-term investment. All types of investments have risks but it is less or more. It is better to invest in Bitcoin than to face the risk of losing money by investing in other digital currencies in the long run. The chances of losing are slightly lower here.

[JayJuanGee]

I believe that with the "Sovereigns", or the "Nation-States", formulating their plans on how to buy/how much to buy Bitcoin, the people behind the smaller Sovereigns are probably deciding whether to buy or not.

What's the point of this? The actual point is that the game theory behind Bitcoin ownership has changed. Those smaller Sovereigns SHOULD buy, or they lose to the Bitcoin Game to Sovereigns that HODL. We, as individuals, who have already bought Bitcoin should probably keep owning it until we see an actual top.

The top? That's probably when Bitcoin's total market value is more than Gold's total market value.

Oh gawd... 

I though that you were an investor.. but you are just looking for a top, which probably shows that you don't really understand bitcoin, including if you think that gold is anywhere close to bitcoin's top, if there were to actually be a top as you imagine.

I have a dilemma if I should give you hints about the correct answer or not, or just let you continue to mull in your level of apparently failing/refusing to understand bitcoin and/or what is bitcoin's addressable market.

O.k.. that is a reasonably fair hint. 

Think about bitcoin's addressable market.  You seem to have suggested that it is something similar to gold.  So do you speculate that bitcoin and gold are going to hover around the same price (market cap)?  Is that your view of the world, as it incorporates bitcoin?

You've been around the forum and batting around bitcoin-related ideas for more than 8.5 years... and have you got any better ideas in  that time?  Have you learned how to think beyond the confines of a previously self-described struggling poor person?

Sure, you sometimes say some things that cause me to consider that you are better grasping bitcoin in broader ways, yet you also revert back to some kind of seemingly confused status, like you had been following some kind of a shitcoin thread, and then you started to consider that bitcoin was similar to some kind of a stock with similar kinds of limits in its upside potential.

Such alts (Trump and Melania) with keep coming with time to time and we just need to have one stance for them i.e. stay away from them.

Exactly.

"Just say no" to shitcoins.

So I prefer to buy Bitcoin even at this time, my plan is to continue investing with DCA method until 2029. 

Now by your forum registration date, you might have started investing in bitcoin in May 2023, so surely getting into 2029 will bring you into 6-ish years, and surely that would not be unreasonable at all for anyone who might be fairly early in his bitcoin investment journey, even if some guys also might be able to front-load their BTC investment, they still might not have enough capital to really bring the size  of their BTC stash up in any kind of a meaningful way in  a short period of time, so they need to try to budget in the fact that they are likely going to be trying to play time to their advantage by getting into bitcoin as soon as they can, invest as much as they are able to invest without over doing it, and then just plod away and consider that it could take quite a long time to really start to get to a place where the accumulation plan might be able to be modified away from persistent, consistent, ongoing and perhaps even aggressive BTC accumulation through buying.

.... the chances of you losing from Bitcoin in the long run are very low.

Even if you are factually correct, to me it seems problematic to frame risk in that kind of a way... .. .. I frequently like to think that the most that I could lose is 100%, but then sure I also agree that there are not too many scenarios for that to play out, but there are some scenarios that go beyond merely what bitcoin itself does...  .. yet there are even scenarios in which bitcoin itself could end up getting manipulated in the DOWNity direction instead of our current seemingly never ending UPpity price pressures.

For me, I still consider position size... what is my position size.. and is that suitable for total of my personal circumstances.. think about a guy who is overly optimistic about bitcoin, and he starts to think that this thing is going up no matter what, then what is he going to do?  Sure in the long term, he has good odds of being correct, but in the short term if he put all of his value into bitcoin, he could end up getting himself into a bad situation.. and yeah for sure, I don't know the right reaction for everyone in regards to accomplishing their position size.. and then surely, if they are still buying then each week they are considering how much more to put in for that week, and their position size is building up and hopefully appropriate for that moment and for those circumstances and the position size may well continue to build and build and build, and perhaps no adjustments are needed, yet there may be times in which it might be valuable to analyze in a more in-depth way regarding if position size and/or approach to position size might be improved by making some tweaks to what is there or what is being added (and how). 

[Youngrebel]

There's an assurance for the constant rise in price of Bitcoin over the past years at an increasing rate. Though the rate might not be in a projectile form where it only increase with out dropping, but in a fluctuating way that goes up and come down a while. It is important to note that it goes higher overtime in a slow but progressive Manner. So for those who are wanting an overnight riches from Bitcoin investment has to have a rethink before investing. You should always opt for a long term investments to create that wealth we Alway  long to have. Long term investments the only way to creating you ever desired.

[ginsan]

A sense of optimism is needed to be able to encourage enthusiasm to be able to hold on for a long time. A sense of optimism, among others, is triggered by our desire to reach the target end point of accumulation from the initial stage to the final stage in our investment. Confidence will grow with the increasing pile of Btc because we routinely buy every week.

To achieve satisfaction / achievement in investment, of course, patience and consistency are also needed in buying bitcoin. Slowly time has passed, from $10k up to $20k and continuing to reach $50k and now at $100k. Without us realizing it, the development and adoption of bitcoin has grown quite rapidly, even the demand to buy bitcoin has increased quite strongly because investors are already aware that bitcoin is the best investment that should not be missed.

Also with our age, which continues to increase without us realizing it we have reached 40 years, 50 years and 60 years, but what have we done, have we changed our lives or do we have btc in our portfolio. Don't be too sorry for what we have done in previous years because the best time to fix the investment path is always there even today is the best day or the best start if you want to buy bitcoin.

Slowly but surely the value of bitcoin can go up, it can also go down because that is the law of the market, there are those who sell or those who buy. But we are targeting long-term investment, so what we have to do is buy and hold, buy at dips, buy in lump sums, buy aggressively, buy DCA of course that is each person's decision and which one is comfortable of course that is what is used.

[sotelorene]

When looking at both of traders and investors, I wonder why most people would just choose a difficult path of an easy part, and the funny thing there is that, trading have no significant changes on your finances status, it's just for minimal gains that will just improve your life for the time being, if you don't lose all your money in the process, but in the case of investing in Bitcoin, it's just like and easy ride to greatness because even a newbie investors can buy Bitcoin with any accumulating strategy of it choice, once he or she is able to acquire a very good stash of it, his duty is to hold for a very long period of time, and all the requirement needed to achieve that is to have a reliable source of income and an emergency funds set aside so as to be able to withstand any emergencies that may arise in the future without you dipping hands into your holds.

It is assumed that with trading you can make profit faster than you will do with investing by buying bitcoin either at a lump-sum or with the DCA approach and hold for a long period of years before making profit.

For such people it's believe that before the time you get to wait to have your bitcoin investment matured, if you were trading you could have made much more but that's a blatant lie and deceptive, because profit making in trading is never guaranteed as it is with long term hodling on your bitcoin investment plan which comes with huge ROI. Bitcoin investment is similar to making and building a savings for the future just by following the bitcoin investment rules.

Yes, sometimes people are fooled by the instant results they get from trading. They think that trading can double their money quickly, when in reality this is just a fantasy that can make the person fall into the abyss of loss. This is where we have to have patience and choose a safer path even though the journey is long (investing). Because the results obtained from a long struggle will certainly be more meaningful and will have very good uses. Because we invest in bitcoin, we definitely have a goal that can definitely make our future brighter. Meanwhile, as you said, the results of trading are only temporary and do not guarantee that the money you get can change our future. Therefore, even though it takes a long time to wait for the results we get from investing in Bitcoin. But believe me this will not make us disappointed with this action.

In as much as I am not a fan of trading but I will also like you to know that trading can double ones money that is if the trading goes as planned or as predicted, even in Bitcoin before you will be able to have a good return that  is twice or trice of your money you have to be consistent and maintain the process and keep it burning else you won't be able to make out something tangible even though you call yourself an investor.

However, despite the risk involve in trading people still make profit so I think we should not talk like trading is meaningless even though we are not a fan of it because there are people who are making money from it and some have an academy where they teach people. Off course money gotten from trading can be used to change someone's future if it is been utilize properly and again even money gotten from our Bitcoin investment, if it is not properly used or manage after taking it when it is due, can be a waste and I believe a wise person wouldn't want to useless his or her years of holding rather they will utilize it. This is not a trading discussion perhaps we should stop bringing up trading talks and comparing it with Bitcoin investment because they are two different thing.

[JayJuanGee]

When looking at both of traders and investors, I wonder why most people would just choose a difficult path of an easy part, and the funny thing there is that, trading have no significant changes on your finances status, it's just for minimal gains that will just improve your life for the time being, if you don't lose all your money in the process, but in the case of investing in Bitcoin, it's just like and easy ride to greatness because even a newbie investors can buy Bitcoin with any accumulating strategy of it choice, once he or she is able to acquire a very good stash of it, his duty is to hold for a very long period of time, and all the requirement needed to achieve that is to have a reliable source of income and an emergency funds set aside so as to be able to withstand any emergencies that may arise in the future without you dipping hands into your holds.

It is assumed that with trading you can make profit faster than you will do with investing by buying bitcoin either at a lump-sum or with the DCA approach and hold for a long period of years before making profit.

For such people it's believe that before the time you get to wait to have your bitcoin investment matured, if you were trading you could have made much more but that's a blatant lie and deceptive, because profit making in trading is never guaranteed as it is with long term hodling on your bitcoin investment plan which comes with huge ROI. Bitcoin investment is similar to making and building a savings for the future just by following the bitcoin investment rules.

Yes, sometimes people are fooled by the instant results they get from trading. They think that trading can double their money quickly, when in reality this is just a fantasy that can make the person fall into the abyss of loss. This is where we have to have patience and choose a safer path even though the journey is long (investing). Because the results obtained from a long struggle will certainly be more meaningful and will have very good uses. Because we invest in bitcoin, we definitely have a goal that can definitely make our future brighter. Meanwhile, as you said, the results of trading are only temporary and do not guarantee that the money you get can change our future. Therefore, even though it takes a long time to wait for the results we get from investing in Bitcoin. But believe me this will not make us disappointed with this action.

In as much as I am not a fan of trading but I will also like you to know that trading can double ones money that is if the trading goes as planned or as predicted, even in Bitcoin before you will be able to have a good return that  is twice or trice of your money you have to be consistent and maintain the process and keep it burning else you won't be able to make out something tangible even though you call yourself an investor.

However, despite the risk involve in trading people still make profit so I think we should not talk like trading is meaningless even though we are not a fan of it because there are people who are making money from it and some have an academy where they teach people.

You seem lost sotelorene, since: 1) this is not a trading thread, 2) you are pumping trading and trying to act like it is no bad and it might be profitable and 3) you are likely talking out of your ass to the extent that hardly anyone who is trading can actually beat bitcoin, especially the longer the timeframe, such as 2 cycles or more.

There are other places (threads where you can compare/contrast trading or even pump it.

Of course there is a little ambiguity in this thread based on the idea of buying on the dip, yet the full name of the thread is:  Buy the DIP, and HODL!... even though there have been some variations of the threads name, yet the thrust of the thread is figuring out various ways to buy and accumulate bitcoin with long term intentions, and not intentions of selling... .. trading involves selling, and we are not talking about selling as a means to accumulate more bitcoin.  You might disagree, yet you are still off topic here if you think that selling is a good strategy to get more bitcoin and you want to promote those kinds of ideas in this thread.

It is hard enough for bitcoiners to just stick to buying bitcoin, building up their BTC stash and even managing their cashflow so that they can put themselves in a better position to buy bitcoin on a regular basis....and for some reason you want us to talk about trading too or to presume that you actually have any kind of meaningful chances (besides gambling) to do better in terms of trading rather than buying bitcoin regularly.

Your other point about investing not being easy since you have to hold long enough to be profitable is largely true, and many times we recommend to come to bitcoin investing with a 4-10 years or longer timeline so that there is an intention to invest rather than trade, and sure bitcoin is not guaranteed to be profitable, even after 4-10 years or longer, yet bitcoin is not any stupid ass shitcoin as you seem to be suggesting that the idea of having to invest a long time is some kind of a unrealistic burden.. and you are also seeming to be overly focused on whether you are in profits or not so that you can cash out, which also seems to be more of the framework of a trader rather than an investor, so it could be the case that you don't even know what investing is, yet you still want to talk about investing as if you know what it is?

Off course money gotten from trading can be used to change someone's future if it is been utilize properly and again even money gotten from our Bitcoin investment, if it is not properly used or manage after taking it when it is due, can be a waste and I believe a wise person wouldn't want to useless his or her years of holding rather they will utilize it. This is not a trading discussion perhaps we should stop bringing up trading talks and comparing it with Bitcoin investment because they are two different thing.

Perhaps we should attempt to focus on investing, yet you seem to be the one who seems inclined to bash investing and to talk well of trading.. so you may well be the one who has a bit of chip on his shoulder in regards to wanting trading to be thought of in a better way.. when it also seems that you are struggling with your own differentiation of trading and investing and you seem to be quite focused on profits, which seems to be muddying up your own way of trying to differentiate trading and investing.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

Off course money gotten from trading can be used to change someone's future if it is been utilize properly and again even money gotten from our Bitcoin investment, if it is not properly used or manage after taking it when it is due, can be a waste and I believe a wise person wouldn't want to useless his or her years of holding rather they will utilize it. This is not a trading discussion perhaps we should stop bringing up trading talks and comparing it with Bitcoin investment because they are two different thing.

Perhaps we should attempt to focus on investing, yet you seem to be the one who seems inclined to bash investing and to talk well of trading.. so you may well be the one who has a bit of chip on his shoulder in regards to wanting trading to be thought of in a better way.. when it also seems that you are struggling with your own differentiation of trading and investing and you seem to be quite focused on profits, which seems to be muddying up your own way of trying to differentiate trading and investing.

He might well be entertaining the distraction that comes from the price movements which makes him think that trading with his portfolio can be profitable for him in comparison to investing on a long term basis. Surely he should know that by his forum registration date, that if he ventures into trading and not investing, he might have not even ended up with some stash of BTC in his portfolio now as his inexperience may have eaten up his holdings and even possibly put him in debt.

I had a fair swipe at trading earlier and my lack of experience almost wrecked me financially, I jumped into investment with the same level of experience and I've not lost, instead I'm seeing profits and getting better financially. I hope to continue this for a longer term since it's better off. Newbies should stay with Bitcoin investment to enable them maintain their portfolio and increase it gently and not having to deal with the risky trading practices or meddle with it so they can remain focused and committed in their ongoing accumulation journey.

Everybody has a choice to make when getting involved with Bitcoin, and you owe yourself to make the right decision towards upgrading, securing and protecting your assets and I think remaining in investment helps a lot to achieve that while trading is an enemy to that notion, especially to beginners since it strips them off their assets. Trading had made people to give up on Bitcoin easily since they lost their assets so early and easily and missed out on the profits of long term holding, thereby concluding that Bitcoin is all about loss. For example, someone who bought 3BTC, traded with it and lost maybe half of his portfolio, got angry and may have sold the rest, same person if he was able to hold until now, his Bitcoin would be worth $318k by now and that's a staggering $258k in profits. Same person if he was holding would've been in profits and have the right mindset that Bitcoin investment is profitable. Let's choose our decisions wisely and embrace investment rather than trading.