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December 01, 2025, 01:23:13 PM
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When you decide to dca in Bitcoin for 4 to 10 years, you have to accept that the price of Bitcoin will fall or rise a lot, even then I will not stop my investment. I will invest with regular discretionary income, as a result, during this long period possibility the price of Bitcoin will also increase and the amount of your wealth will be several times higher than the investment.

Of course, when we invest in Bitcoin, it is foolish to expect high profits first. We must first invest for the long term. When we buy Bitcoin for three years or more, we must be mentally prepared that through this we can reach the height of our success. Again, if the Bitcoin market is down, the price of Bitcoin may decrease slightly, so at that time we must  panic and wait patiently until the price rises. There are many actors who think that we will become millionaires overnight by investing in Bitcoin in a very short time, but this idea is wrong. Of course, we will benefit from investing in Bitcoin, but we must have a long-term plan depending on the time. We have to invest if we have minimal knowledge. If we are not aware of Bitcoin, how will we invest?



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December 01, 2025, 01:32:01 PM
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But I think long-term investors don't need to worry about whether it's a bear market or a bull market. Their main goal is to invest no matter what the market is. A long-term investor invests to reach a set goal. Not to make a profit. Their goal is to build wealth for the future. So the worse the market is, the easier it will be for a long-term investor to build a portfolio. Long-term investors don't worry about the duration of a bear market.

Short-term investors and Bitcoin traders are the ones who want to avoid a long bear market.
Long-term Bitcoin investors certainly aren't overly concerned about bear markets; in fact, they become more optimistic during these times, continuing to accumulate Bitcoin. So, even a bear market is a great opportunity for long-term investors to make regular purchases. However, if you say that long-term Bitcoin investors aren't looking for profits, I think your assumption is completely flawed. I believe the majority of long-term Bitcoin investors aim to make profits when investing in Bitcoin. I believe profit is the key to any investment, including Bitcoin. But profit isn't just about multiplying the amount of money; it's also about protecting their money from being eroded by inflation. Essentially, the benefits of investing in Bitcoin are truly amazing.

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December 01, 2025, 02:04:31 PM
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I am not talking about regrets.

I am talking about a person's bitcoin buying history is going to affect his level of motivation regarding if he might continue to buy bitcoin regularly (such as weekly) versus if a guy might try to strategize to buy bitcoin on the dips (and/or whether the guy might get emotional about the dips or not).

If a guy already spent more than 3 years accumulating bitcoin at $100 per week, he might not give too many shits about if the BTC price happens to be $126k or if the BTC price happens to be $86k, and it is not even like we know in advance that the BTC price is going to change to those lower prices.  Sure, cheaper bitcoin is better than more expensive bitcoin, but since we don't know in advance where the BTC price might be going, then the difference in price still might not be enough of a difference in the BTC price in order to motivate a guy to change anything that he already has in the practice of doing (which is his weekly buys of $100 per week).

That would be the strategy to buy Bitcoin continuously without looking at price because we are not sure about absolute low and ATH price of Bitcoin. If we use tools like DCA calculators then they give us exact picture of what's the benefit of buying weekly in the past. Yesterday Bitcoin price was 91000$ while today it's at 85000$ and we don't know what's coming ahead, so it's better not to keep this hassle of when to buy and when not. Just simply buy weekly or monthly.

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December 01, 2025, 02:12:58 PM
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No investor wants a prolonged downturn. New investors may hope for a break in the downturn, but those who have already accumulated a lot of Bitcoin do not.
But I think long-term investors don't need to worry about whether it's a bear market or a bull market. Their main goal is to invest no matter what the market is. A long-term investor invests to reach a set goal. Not to make a profit. Their goal is to build wealth for the future. So the worse the market is, the easier it will be for a long-term investor to build a portfolio. Long-term investors don't worry about the duration of a bear market.

Short-term investors and Bitcoin traders are the ones who want to avoid a long bear market.
There is nothing like short term investing bitcoin, if you investment is going to be short term then you are a trader and shouldn't be masquerading as an investor, the only way to invest in bitcoin is to do it long term, you need to be investing for at least 1 cycle and even with that they are people who will still consider 1 cycle as not being long enough to invest in bitcoin as it's hard to hit over accumulation in that time unless you lump summed everything and I still don't think it's too likely so best to try to push to w cycles and more, it's best to not keep any mindset that we can invest in bitcoin for the short term, anyone planning to do that shouldn't confuse it with investing since they are just traders.
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December 01, 2025, 02:43:23 PM
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You are making a good point, people are very likely to have that absolute guarantee of investing in Bitcoin, We all know that Bitcoin have a tendency of growing and increasing and we might have a tendency of an opportunity of bullish periods, we might all know that when we have a chance of accumulating Bitcoin that should be a great opportunity of buying Bitcoin.

But investors should also understand that Bitcoin doesn’t have a guarantee, there is no guarantees of profits and there is no guarantee bull market coming immediately, well we might also experience more downturn, we might also have a bull period so actually nothing is guaranteed.
Since nothing is guaranteed in Bitcoin investment as you explained, what's the major triggering force for all Bitcoin investors.
First and foremost you should understand Bitcoin as a volatile asset will definitely face fluntuation which was what you have explained to your level of understanding, just like the two season you mentioned that exist which is the bearish and bullish period, if you're observant, you'll understand that the price has been hovering around 9$90k plus for few days now after settling at $86k and $87k plus for some days or will I say weeks back, as this was happening many persons said, we are now in bearish season which is the downtrend and as they were saying it, the price started doing what they can't comprend, the point am trying to make now is that, we may not experience such bear as we do before, so it is better we don't look at that direction, instead I encourage us to buy with looking at those directions, that seem like a discouragement.
People who want to invest in bitcoin should increase their knowledge about its basics and uses. If you look at the data since Bitcoin appeared, every year the price has soared higher and even reached a new ATH. What if someone tells you that BTC will again surpass the previous ATH accurately? Of course everyone's mindset will change and they will become more confident about their future. So what is happening now is normal in market dynamics. So if you want to invest in Bitcoin then don't use daily finances and it will make your psychology depressed all the time.
Fluctuations are a natural thing, but if you cannot accept these fluctuations as normal, then it can become very difficult to survive here. That is why it is necessary to gain knowledge about Bitcoin, it is important to have a clear idea about the history of Bitcoin, because through this you will have confidence in the future of Bitcoin, you will be able to hold Bitcoin with courage. The current changes in the market are also part of the natural trend, and it moves through fluctuations at every time. Therefore, do not panic too much, you must invest using additional or unnecessary money, so that mental stress does not increase during times of volatility. Only if you can keep yourself stable for a long time, it is possible to achieve long-term success from this.
Those who invest regularly in Bitcoin or are experienced in investing must know that the Bitcoin market fluctuates constantly, so if this fluctuation suddenly decreases or increases, we have to accept it very easily. Many times it is seen that those who are new to investing cannot easily take such fluctuations, and investing is not for them. Those who cannot easily take fluctuations should first gain as much knowledge as possible about the Bitcoin market and then invest. If a person is not aware of or does not have knowledge about Bitcoin, then investing in Bitcoin will be a bit complicated for them. Before investing, he must have enough idea about that investment, then if he invests, he will get an idea of how much profit he can or cannot make through the investment. However, the only way to invest successfully in our Bitcoin investment is to invest for the long term. If we can invest with a long-term investment plan, then we will definitely achieve enough success in the investment that ten more people will be encouraged to invest after seeing our success.

It is normal for a beginner or newbie to feel scared or to be dismayed when there is massive Dip in the market price but is not normal or encouraging for them to sell off or panic because they have already decided in their mind before starting that they will invest and hold for long term regardless of what will happen and the reason why they should not be moved or tempted to sell off their investment is because it is believed they purchased Bitcoin with money they can afford to lose and so that should not be a problem when the market is down but most of the people that sell sometimes are people that purchased wrongly ( buying with funds that is meant for expenses) and this is a terrible mistake to make as an investor.

The argument above brings up one fact, and that is that volatility is not an issue with Bitcoin--it is just a feature of this cryptocurrency. Any person venturing into this market must appreciate that there have been price swings but they have always existed. Knowledge and proper planning is what is able to separate a confident investor and panicked sellers. When one uses the money that he or she needs to spend on daily living, then a slight decline seems like a crisis. The fluctuations then become much simpler to manage, however, when you spend only with surplus money and have a long-run mindset. The historical record indicates that patience has paid off to the Bitcoin holders, but only those who remain relaxed and do not make decisions out of emotions gain.

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December 01, 2025, 02:52:20 PM
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But I think long-term investors don't need to worry about whether it's a bear market or a bull market. Their main goal is to invest no matter what the market is. A long-term investor invests to reach a set goal. Not to make a profit. Their goal is to build wealth for the future. So the worse the market is, the easier it will be for a long-term investor to build a portfolio. Long-term investors don't worry about the duration of a bear market.

Short-term investors and Bitcoin traders are the ones who want to avoid a long bear market.
Mehmet69 ,You are talking nonsense. If an investor does not invest because of the profit, then what will he gain by investing for so long? When someone can see that investing in Bitcoin instead of investing in anything else has the possibility of making several times more profit in the future, then they show interest in investing in Bitcoin. Those who do not actually invest in reality mainly console themselves by saying this kind of thing. You said that investing in Bitcoin for a long time creates wealth in the future. Now there are many ways to create wealth in the future. But why would a person invest in Bitcoin instead of investing in anything else? Because when he understands that Bitcoin will have a bigger role in the world economy in the future than it does now and where the value of fiat currency is decreasing day by day, the value of Bitcoin is increasing day by day, that is why he understands that if he invests in Bitcoin than any other asset in the future, he will be in a much better position. His profit will be several times higher. This profit is for their own economic security and independence, people mainly invest in the long term so that their future security is ensured.

You say that when the market is bad you mean bear , it is easier for long-term investors. In fact, Not all long-term investors can take advantage of it . Because even if they only have a backup fund, they do not have a stronger income flow and extra money. In addition, they also need mental strength. Without which, it is not possible to buy just because the price of Bitcoin decreases. Opportunities are always there for everyone, but most people do not take that because they are not financially strong. And there are many who are very strong financially, but they are afraid and do not trust, which is why they cannot buy Bitcoin at the right time.
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December 01, 2025, 04:30:10 PM
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The argument above brings up one fact, and that is that volatility is not an issue with Bitcoin--it is just a feature of this cryptocurrency. Any person venturing into this market must appreciate that there have been price swings but they have always existed. Knowledge and proper planning is what is able to separate a confident investor and panicked sellers. When one uses the money that he or she needs to spend on daily living, then a slight decline seems like a crisis. The fluctuations then become much simpler to manage, however, when you spend only with surplus money and have a long-run mindset. The historical record indicates that patience has paid off to the Bitcoin holders, but only those who remain relaxed and do not make decisions out of emotions gain.
The market has two cycles, each cycle will have an end and alternate between the two. Selling at the peak of the cycle is a great option for those trying to build a portfolio without additional capital, but if they have it, buying and accumulating over time is also a great strategy.

We are already into December, panic seems to be the reason why bitcoin price has plummeted to $83k today. This is another dip that those with extra capital are waiting for, while others may just hold on and be patient.

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December 01, 2025, 05:11:55 PM
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The argument above brings up one fact, and that is that volatility is not an issue with Bitcoin--it is just a feature of this cryptocurrency. Any person venturing into this market must appreciate that there have been price swings but they have always existed. Knowledge and proper planning is what is able to separate a confident investor and panicked sellers. When one uses the money that he or she needs to spend on daily living, then a slight decline seems like a crisis. The fluctuations then become much simpler to manage, however, when you spend only with surplus money and have a long-run mindset. The historical record indicates that patience has paid off to the Bitcoin holders, but only those who remain relaxed and do not make decisions out of emotions gain.
The market has two cycles, each cycle will have an end and alternate between the two. Selling at the peak of the cycle is a great option for those trying to build a portfolio without additional capital, but if they have it, buying and accumulating over time is also a great strategy.

We are already into December, panic seems to be the reason why bitcoin price has plummeted to $83k today. This is another dip that those with extra capital are waiting for, while others may just hold on and be patient.

But what could be the reason of the panic that cause the price of bitcoin today because i haven't heard any negative news about bitcoin today but all of a sudden i just saw the price of bitcoin dropping. Well, every DIP price counts for those who are still in their accumulation stages because it will be a great privilege for them to buy at lower price while they wait for the greenish days to come but for those who have arrived at the amount they wish to hold in their portfolio, the continues fall in the price of bitcoin could be very challenging for them since they are expecting the price to skyrocket so that they can take some profits from their investment. However, we can't fault the falling price since we are suspecting a bear market, after all when the market was bullish many investors enjoyed the ride.

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December 01, 2025, 05:13:08 PM
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I am not talking about regrets.

I am talking about a person's bitcoin buying history is going to affect his level of motivation regarding if he might continue to buy bitcoin regularly (such as weekly) versus if a guy might try to strategize to buy bitcoin on the dips (and/or whether the guy might get emotional about the dips or not).

If a guy already spent more than 3 years accumulating bitcoin at $100 per week, he might not give too many shits about if the BTC price happens to be $126k or if the BTC price happens to be $86k, and it is not even like we know in advance that the BTC price is going to change to those lower prices.  Sure, cheaper bitcoin is better than more expensive bitcoin, but since we don't know in advance where the BTC price might be going, then the difference in price still might not be enough of a difference in the BTC price in order to motivate a guy to change anything that he already has in the practice of doing (which is his weekly buys of $100 per week).

That would be the strategy to buy Bitcoin continuously without looking at price because we are not sure about absolute low and ATH price of Bitcoin. If we use tools like DCA calculators then they give us exact picture of what's the benefit of buying weekly in the past. Yesterday Bitcoin price was 91000$ while today it's at 85000$ and we don't know what's coming ahead, so it's better not to keep this hassle of when to buy and when not. Just simply buy weekly or monthly.


I have come to realize that the moment someone start asking question on when to buy and when not to..., it is then obvious they are not really serious and interested because at that point in time they are already having too many thoughts on their mind and that state can really mess up someone if they are not careful with their decision and the action they will take afterwards. It is wrong to make decisions under pressure because you can make the wrong one and you can not afford to make one in Bitcoin investment because it can very dangerous.











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But I think long-term investors don't need to worry about whether it's a bear market or a bull market. Their main goal is to invest no matter what the market is. A long-term investor invests to reach a set goal. Not to make a profit. Their goal is to build wealth for the future. So the worse the market is, the easier it will be for a long-term investor to build a portfolio. Long-term investors don't worry about the duration of a bear market.

Short-term investors and Bitcoin traders are the ones who want to avoid a long bear market.
Long-term Bitcoin investors certainly aren't overly concerned about bear markets; in fact, they become more optimistic during these times, continuing to accumulate Bitcoin. So, even a bear market is a great opportunity for long-term investors to make regular purchases. However, if you say that long-term Bitcoin investors aren't looking for profits, I think your assumption is completely flawed. I believe the majority of long-term Bitcoin investors aim to make profits when investing in Bitcoin. I believe profit is the key to any investment, including Bitcoin. But profit isn't just about multiplying the amount of money; it's also about protecting their money from being eroded by inflation. Essentially, the benefits of investing in Bitcoin are truly amazing.

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Of course, if an investor has enough money, if he wants to invest elsewhere, then this is a golden opportunity. When the Bitcoin market is in a recession, if he can buy Bitcoin and hold it for a long time, then he will get a lot of profit on this investment, which will attract him to invest. However, there are many investors who cannot invest simply because they do not have enough money, so of course those who have enough money should invest in Bitcoin for the long term. If we can buy enough Bitcoin for the long term, then it will give us more profit in the future. Of course, I follow this advice myself and will advise others that if we have enough money, it is wise to invest in Bitcoin with a long-term plan.

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When you decide to dca in Bitcoin for 4 to 10 years, you have to accept that the price of Bitcoin will fall or rise a lot, even then I will not stop my investment. I will invest with regular discretionary income, as a result, during this long period possibility the price of Bitcoin will also increase and the amount of your wealth will be several times higher than the investment.

Of course, when we invest in Bitcoin, it is foolish to expect high profits first. We must first invest for the long term. When we buy Bitcoin for three years or more, we must be mentally prepared that through this we can reach the height of our success. Again, if the Bitcoin market is down, the price of Bitcoin may decrease slightly, so at that time we must  panic and wait patiently until the price rises. There are many actors who think that we will become millionaires overnight by investing in Bitcoin in a very short time, but this idea is wrong. Of course, we will benefit from investing in Bitcoin, but we must have a long-term plan depending on the time. We have to invest if we have minimal knowledge. If we are not aware of Bitcoin, how will we invest?



So it is good to create an emergency fund because it protects the investment from losses in case of an emergency so that the money invested in Bitcoin is not touched. Another thing is that you have to buy when the price drops and you cannot buy when the price increases. This is a wrong approach because many people may think that now the price has dropped, now is the time to buy, but it turns out that when you buy thinking the price is low, after a while the price has dropped further, then you will be disappointed. Therefore, no one can accurately say when the price will drop. Therefore, it is the right investment decision to invest a certain amount of money regularly every week or month without being too panicked about the price falling or rising.

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Of course, when we invest in Bitcoin, it is foolish to expect high profits first. We must first invest for the long term. When we buy Bitcoin for three years or more, we must be mentally prepared that through this we can reach the height of our success. Again, if the Bitcoin market is down, the price of Bitcoin may decrease slightly, so at that time we must  panic and wait patiently until the price rises. There are many actors who think that we will become millionaires overnight by investing in Bitcoin in a very short time, but this idea is wrong. Of course, we will benefit from investing in Bitcoin, but we must have a long-term plan depending on the time. We have to invest if we have minimal knowledge. If we are not aware of Bitcoin, how will we invest?

Most people want to invest for long term and they know the potential for holding bitcoin for years, but what they do not take into equation that bitcoin can dump below their buying price and they shouldn't panic if they see their portfolio down.

Usually, we see that there is some negativity and fear in the market when the bitcoin price dumps and those people who aren't comfortable seeing their portfolio down sell in panic. Also, there are other people who think that they can sell their bitcoin and buy back cheaply later, both of these approaches aren't the right ones.

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The argument above brings up one fact, and that is that volatility is not an issue with Bitcoin--it is just a feature of this cryptocurrency. Any person venturing into this market must appreciate that there have been price swings but they have always existed. Knowledge and proper planning is what is able to separate a confident investor and panicked sellers. When one uses the money that he or she needs to spend on daily living, then a slight decline seems like a crisis. The fluctuations then become much simpler to manage, however, when you spend only with surplus money and have a long-run mindset. The historical record indicates that patience has paid off to the Bitcoin holders, but only those who remain relaxed and do not make decisions out of emotions gain.
The market has two cycles, each cycle will have an end and alternate between the two. Selling at the peak of the cycle is a great option for those trying to build a portfolio without additional capital, but if they have it, buying and accumulating over time is also a great strategy.

We are already into December, panic seems to be the reason why bitcoin price has plummeted to $83k today. This is another dip that those with extra capital are waiting for, while others may just hold on and be patient.
Basically we should never panic, avoid panicking, these are just a normal movement, there is nothing to panic about, that is why it is important to keep yourself stable here. Volatility will come, but they have an end, they recover again periodically, so there is no reason to panic at such times. Now it has fallen to $84K, but this is not a permanent decline, it will recover, so if you can afford it, buy more now. For those who have extra cash, such declines are ideal buying opportunities, learn to use it, but it will bring good results.

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When you decide to dca in Bitcoin for 4 to 10 years, you have to accept that the price of Bitcoin will fall or rise a lot, even then I will not stop my investment. I will invest with regular discretionary income, as a result, during this long period possibility the price of Bitcoin will also increase and the amount of your wealth will be several times higher than the investment.

Of course, when we invest in Bitcoin, it is foolish to expect high profits first. We must first invest for the long term. When we buy Bitcoin for three years or more, we must be mentally prepared that through this we can reach the height of our success. Again, if the Bitcoin market is down, the price of Bitcoin may decrease slightly, so at that time we must  panic and wait patiently until the price rises. There are many actors who think that we will become millionaires overnight by investing in Bitcoin in a very short time, but this idea is wrong. Of course, we will benefit from investing in Bitcoin, but we must have a long-term plan depending on the time. We have to invest if we have minimal knowledge. If we are not aware of Bitcoin, how will we invest?



I don't believe anybody that invest and expect high profit is foolish, the first thing every investor has in mind is to make profit whether short  term or long term, meanwhile for those investors that do not understand how investing in Bitcoin works, I  feel it is proper for we to educate them more, as they can be ignorantly investing for a short term while expecting a sudden high profit, and I don't believe ignorance is foolishness. People's perception are different and for most persons out there, they just believe if they invest in Bitcoin they will suddenly have high profit, but when they are properly Schooled about how Bitcoin investment works, I believe they will turn a new leaf and understand the concept of Bitcoin investment more accurate.
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December 01, 2025, 06:10:18 PM
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DIP as we know is a light reduction in the price of Bitcoin, which allows investors buy more assets as an opportunity to buy at a lower price with the believe that where will be an increase in value
HODL as a time investors keeps there assets during the dip, and keeping this assets for a long period of time to later sell to get more profits.
While you are trying to take opportunity from dip and hold. it's very important that some risk factor are considered.
There could be a reduction in price that can lead to losses, and economic policy can also affect HODL.
Buy the dip and hold is for long term investors that are not in a hurry to make a quick return but hold their asset for a very long term. Although, it's certain that there are some econonmic factors and policies that may affect the price of Bitcoin but if you correlate the value of Bitcoin from the year 2011 to this year 2025 you will see that Bitcoin is investment is economically viable when invested with long term planing so therefore, I think there is nothing to worry about when you buy in dip and hold in long time.

I agree with you, sometimes the economic conditions might affect the market to fall heavily, but that doesn’t stop a long term investors to keep on buying. That is what I used to say to those who are doubting Bitcoin until now. I can only tell them to check the history of Bitcoin from the beginning to ask themselves if Bitcoin worth to hold for a long term or is just an investment for a short period of time, because I believe it is enough for someone to think which is the best, whether long term or short term.

So, as you said, hold for the long term is for investors who are not in a hurry to sell anytime soon, because those who have been holding for a decade would never be in profit if they decide to sell, as Bitcoin has increased from a low price to this position.

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December 01, 2025, 06:19:51 PM
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You are making a good point, people are very likely to have that absolute guarantee of investing in Bitcoin, We all know that Bitcoin have a tendency of growing and increasing and we might have a tendency of an opportunity of bullish periods, we might all know that when we have a chance of accumulating Bitcoin that should be a great opportunity of buying Bitcoin.

But investors should also understand that Bitcoin doesn’t have a guarantee, there is no guarantees of profits and there is no guarantee bull market coming immediately, well we might also experience more downturn, we might also have a bull period so actually nothing is guaranteed.
Since nothing is guaranteed in Bitcoin investment as you explained, what's the major triggering force for all Bitcoin investors.
First and foremost you should understand Bitcoin as a volatile asset will definitely face fluntuation which was what you have explained to your level of understanding, just like the two season you mentioned that exist which is the bearish and bullish period, if you're observant, you'll understand that the price has been hovering around 9$90k plus for few days now after settling at $86k and $87k plus for some days or will I say weeks back, as this was happening many persons said, we are now in bearish season which is the downtrend and as they were saying it, the price started doing what they can't comprend, the point am trying to make now is that, we may not experience such bear as we do before, so it is better we don't look at that direction, instead I encourage us to buy with looking at those directions, that seem like a discouragement.
People who want to invest in bitcoin should increase their knowledge about its basics and uses. If you look at the data since Bitcoin appeared, every year the price has soared higher and even reached a new ATH. What if someone tells you that BTC will again surpass the previous ATH accurately? Of course everyone's mindset will change and they will become more confident about their future. So what is happening now is normal in market dynamics. So if you want to invest in Bitcoin then don't use daily finances and it will make your psychology depressed all the time.
Look, I definitely agree with you, but here's one thing: if someone wants to invest in Bitcoin, then along with increasing their knowledge, they should also improve their financial situation. Because every time the price of Bitcoin falls, it creates new ATH. If you consider it from that perspective, you will understand that with the same income, you will not be able to continue investing comfortably in the distant future or even if you can, you will not be able to profit on average. This will affect your financial situation. Moreover, the increased cost of goods due to inflation will also negatively affect your personal life. So I personally think that if someone wants to secure their future, they should increase both knowledge and income.

There is no need for technical analysis or complex financial skills to start investing in Bitcoin. The first step to entering the world of Bitcoin is to start. It is a mental preparation where common sense and a desire to learn play a more effective role than being overly excited about technical analysis, market charts or price changes. It is not reasonable to postpone the investment time to learn too much about Bitcoin or to gain knowledge. It is wise to start with a small amount according to your ability, understanding your limitations well. As a result, it creates an opportunity to learn through practical experience in addition to reducing risk. Bitcoin is a powerful and influential asset in today's world. Therefore, it is essential to start investing in small amounts by understanding your financial cash flow management. Because if someone starts investing without keeping a system of discretionary income, then the main source of his problem will be the weakness of the financial structure, not the fluctuations of the market. Therefore, before investing in Bitcoin, one should have a proper plan about the flow of one's income, expenses and savings. Success in investment comes through patience, self-education, and continuous efforts.  Therefore, Bitcoin should not be seen as just an investment but as a path of self-development where one can take responsibility for one's own decisions, mistakes and learning. A realistic road map for beginners in Bitcoin investing is to start small, understand your financial structure, have a learning mindset, and be patient in the long run. It is not the intricacies of technical analysis but rather common sense, financial discipline and a mindset of self-improvement that are the foundation of true success.
I understand what you mean, there is no obligation for you to be rich to invest here, but your income needs to be at least stable enough that it will not affect your investment in the long run. The value of everything is increasing day by day. Even Bitcoin creates new ATH after every fall. I admit that you can start investing considering your situation, but if you do not improve your situation, that is, if you do not increase your income, it will definitely affect you later. On the other hand, there is the fear of unforeseen emergencies. If you bring up the fund somewhere here, one thing is how many times you can rely on the fund. I am not saying that you should wait to start investing, but after starting investing, it is necessary to increase your income to keep it going and to keep your personal life stable. Bitcoin is certainly a powerful and influential asset in today's world. But you will not get its results in the short term. You can start with a small amount, of course, but to keep it going, you must increase your income.
Of course, when a person invests in Bitcoin, his first objective will be to invest successfully. If he has minimal knowledge about Bitcoin, he will first want to invest successfully. However, if an investor first invests in Bitcoin and then invests in the hope of achieving high profits, it will be foolish for him because if he invests in the hope of high profits at first, he should not invest because he will be harmed by hoping to make extra profits, so he must first invest with a long-term plan and then get success. However, there are many investors who are very hasty in investing. Investing in a hurry will not yield much in that investment, so of course we must be patient and invest with a long-term plan. If we can invest in this way, we will definitely achieve enough success, which will make us more confident in our investment. Many times, if the market suddenly falls after we invest, we panic, so we should not panic, we must be patient and wait to test the market.
See, you will never get the results of investing in Bitcoin in the short term. For this, you have to be patient. You can definitely start with a small amount of money according to your ability, but you also have to make sure that all the necessary needs of your personal or family are being met properly. You can be a victim of any unexpected situation at any time. In that case, if you have funds, you may be able to deal with that situation, but one thing is that you cannot depend on the funds repeatedly. But if you keep increasing your initial income gradually, it will be useful to meet the needs of you and your family. You can continue to invest comfortably and also get benefits in unexpected emergencies. Because being strong is more important than accumulating strength. Because inflation is increasing, the prices of things are increasing very quickly, in such a situation, if you are limited to the same amount of income, then later you will fall into financial crisis. As a result, your personal and family life and investments will also be affected. So I personally think that if you want to ensure the future and want to be at a stable level, try to increase your income as much as possible.
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But I think long-term investors don't need to worry about whether it's a bear market or a bull market. Their main goal is to invest no matter what the market is. A long-term investor invests to reach a set goal. Not to make a profit. Their goal is to build wealth for the future. So the worse the market is, the easier it will be for a long-term investor to build a portfolio. Long-term investors don't worry about the duration of a bear market.

Short-term investors and Bitcoin traders are the ones who want to avoid a long bear market.
There is nothing like short term investing bitcoin, if you investment is going to be short term then you are a trader and shouldn't be masquerading as an investor, the only way to invest in bitcoin is to do it long term, you need to be investing for at least 1 cycle and even with that they are people who will still consider 1 cycle as not being long enough to invest in bitcoin as it's hard to hit over accumulation in that time unless you lump summed everything and I still don't think it's too likely so best to try to push to w cycles and more, it's best to not keep any mindset that we can invest in bitcoin for the short term, anyone planning to do that shouldn't confuse it with investing since they are just traders.

Surely, people with short time mindset are seen as traders as they sell in the slightest jump in price and it is never the right approach to a good investment journey. Offcourse, buying and Hodling for just a circle(4) years may not yield anything tangible enough even though the investor is consistently accumulating bitcoin since his DCA amount might be small depending on his income and/or the bitcoin price fluctuations may also be a reason as we may not tell when it will drop in price of increase. Secondly too, even if he lumped sum within his early stage of buying bitcoin, there is no solid assurance of what he must have been able to accumulate or be able to reach his over accumulation stage since the price of bitcoin can be low today, and tomorrow very high. My point exactly is that your decision to invest for a whole circle or even buy a lump sum within that period of 4 years or thar circle does not give a guarantee of high Bitcoin portfolio as the high rate of volatility can change the market at anytime.

So the best is just to remain consistent in buys for years, a circle, 2, 3, 4 or even more, offcourse, it is called an investment, and thus, people should come into it with a really long term plan so you can actually maximise the real gain as it has proven to be more valuable if held for long time

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December 01, 2025, 07:28:26 PM
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When you decide to dca in Bitcoin for 4 to 10 years, you have to accept that the price of Bitcoin will fall or rise a lot, even then I will not stop my investment. I will invest with regular discretionary income, as a result, during this long period possibility the price of Bitcoin will also increase and the amount of your wealth will be several times higher than the investment.

Of course, when we invest in Bitcoin, it is foolish to expect high profits first. We must first invest for the long term. When we buy Bitcoin for three years or more, we must be mentally prepared that through this we can reach the height of our success. Again, if the Bitcoin market is down, the price of Bitcoin may decrease slightly, so at that time we must  panic and wait patiently until the price rises. There are many actors who think that we will become millionaires overnight by investing in Bitcoin in a very short time, but this idea is wrong. Of course, we will benefit from investing in Bitcoin, but we must have a long-term plan depending on the time. We have to invest if we have minimal knowledge. If we are not aware of Bitcoin, how will we invest?



I don't believe anybody that invest and expect high profit is foolish, the first thing every investor has in mind is to make profit whether short  term or long term, meanwhile for those investors that do not understand how investing in Bitcoin works, I  feel it is proper for we to educate them more, as they can be ignorantly investing for a short term while expecting a sudden high profit, and I don't believe ignorance is foolishness. People's perception are different and for most persons out there, they just believe if they invest in Bitcoin they will suddenly have high profit, but when they are properly Schooled about how Bitcoin investment works, I believe they will turn a new leaf and understand the concept of Bitcoin investment more accurate.
How can you make high profits in the first place if you don't learn to invest in Bitcoin? You can never make high profits in Bitcoin in a short-term investment. You always have to have a long-term plan in Bitcoin and have to gain minimum knowledge about investment. If you have no idea about Bitcoin, then you have a completely wrong idea about how you can make high profits by making short-term investments. We always have to check the Bitcoin market and invest in Bitcoin with a long-term plan of two to three years, then we can make high profits from Bitcoin. There are many new investors who invest in a hurry without understanding the investment properly, they think that they will get high profits overnight in a very short time. Every person thinks about profit before investing, but it depends on time. We must be patient when investing in Bitcoin and always have a long-term plan. If we invest like this, we will definitely achieve a lot of success in Bitcoin investment, which will make us more focused on our investment.

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I agree with you, sometimes the economic conditions might affect the market to fall heavily, but that doesn’t stop a long term investors to keep on buying. That is what I used to say to those who are doubting Bitcoin until now. I can only tell them to check the history of Bitcoin from the beginning to ask themselves if Bitcoin worth to hold for a long term or is just an investment for a short period of time, because I believe it is enough for someone to think which is the best, whether long term or short term.

So, as you said, hold for the long term is for investors who are not in a hurry to sell anytime soon, because those who have been holding for a decade would never be in profit if they decide to sell, as Bitcoin has increased from a low price to this position.
It is great defense of long term investor since although economy may make market to fall fast, smart investor will view it as chance to continue buying Bitcoin at low price, knowing that its main value in long term growth is not bad. You are correct that looking at history of Bitcoin since its beginning confirms that it is not quick trading thing but long term holding tool and your best advice to those who doubt it is that people who have held it over 10 years or more have made very big profits due to their patience and lack of speed to sell when price goes down and that time in market is better than trying to guess when to buy or sell.

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But I think long-term investors don't need to worry about whether it's a bear market or a bull market. Their main goal is to invest no matter what the market is. A long-term investor invests to reach a set goal. Not to make a profit. Their goal is to build wealth for the future. So the worse the market is, the easier it will be for a long-term investor to build a portfolio. Long-term investors don't worry about the duration of a bear market.

Short-term investors and Bitcoin traders are the ones who want to avoid a long bear market.
Long-term Bitcoin investors certainly aren't overly concerned about bear markets; in fact, they become more optimistic during these times, continuing to accumulate Bitcoin. So, even a bear market is a great opportunity for long-term investors to make regular purchases. However, if you say that long-term Bitcoin investors aren't looking for profits, I think your assumption is completely flawed. I believe the majority of long-term Bitcoin investors aim to make profits when investing in Bitcoin. I believe profit is the key to any investment, including Bitcoin. But profit isn't just about multiplying the amount of money; it's also about protecting their money from being eroded by inflation. Essentially, the benefits of investing in Bitcoin are truly amazing.

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Of course, if an investor has enough money, if he wants to invest elsewhere, then this is a golden opportunity. When the Bitcoin market is in a recession, if he can buy Bitcoin and hold it for a long time, then he will get a lot of profit on this investment, which will attract him to invest. However, there are many investors who cannot invest simply because they do not have enough money, so of course those who have enough money should invest in Bitcoin for the long term. If we can buy enough Bitcoin for the long term, then it will give us more profit in the future. Of course, I follow this advice myself and will advise others that if we have enough money, it is wise to invest in Bitcoin with a long-term plan.

It is written everywhere that you don't actually know how Bitcoin investment works, because if you do you won't be talking about enough money. One do not need enough money before they can be able to invest in Bitcoin rather what they need is a discrestionary income which is been gotten after all the necessaries has been taken care of so it is not a matter of enough money and some people that claims to have enough money don't even use to invest in Bitcoin. And stop talking about more profit because it is too early to be talking about it and folks that should be talking about profit now and are those that invested 2014,2015 and any investor that is starting now and have this profit mindset will be distracted.

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