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April 18, 2019, 10:24:03 AM
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It was said he passed away, and than maybe a year? later the funds for the forum where moved. I don't see any threads and I tried to google search it via site:bitcointalk.org but don't know enough keywords to find anything. I should have just book marked the thread.


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Found it

So any new news?
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April 18, 2019, 10:27:45 AM
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That's interesting, never heard that story before, do you remember who posted the thread? Give some more details and I can try to search for some keywords.

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April 18, 2019, 10:27:54 AM
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It was said he passed away, and than maybe a year? later the funds for the forum where moved. I don't see any threads and I tried to google search it via site:bitcointalk.org but don't know enough keywords to find anything. I should have just book marked the thread.

I think you should add more information about who stole what. Stole from who, from an exchange? from the forum? from theymos? from satoshi?

(I do know anything about this, so more info you put the better it is)

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April 18, 2019, 10:33:50 AM
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That's interesting, never heard that story before, do you remember who posted the thread? Give some more details and I can try to search for some keywords.

I think theymos posted the thread because he offered a reward if the btc was recovered. I don't remember

I am speaking about the bitcointalk fourm treasurers. Who stole the funds from the fourm.
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April 18, 2019, 11:31:30 AM
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That's interesting, never heard that story before, do you remember who posted the thread? Give some more details and I can try to search for some keywords.

I think theymos posted the thread because he offered a reward if the btc was recovered. I don't remember

I am speaking about the bitcointalk fourm treasurers. Who stole the funds from the fourm.

I don't think the treasurer stole the funds, he died with the funds in his wallet and then a couple years later the funds or some of the funds were moved. The thread was posted by theymos and he offered 25% of whatever was recovered to whoever could recover it

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April 18, 2019, 11:41:25 AM
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Anyone know why Theymos didn't think it a good idea to use multisig with the treasurers? This probably means he didn't care too much about the funds that were stolen (especially since there was a 25% reward)... Potentially Theymos just moved on from this so...

I think there was another thread on him to as details of his identity were published briefly by a user here about 3 or 4 years ago. The information was since deleted.

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April 18, 2019, 11:46:26 AM
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Anyone know why Theymos didn't think it a good idea to use multisig with the treasurers?
It was brought up in the old thread, but I haven't seen talk about it in recent time. You got to wait for master to answer.

The forum should move the existing funds that are held by single users into multi-sig ASAP. I know folks like OgNasty are reliable, but shit happens and people die every day.

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April 18, 2019, 11:46:27 AM
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Anyone know why Theymos didn't think it a good idea to use multisig with the treasurers? This probably means he didn't care too much about the funds that were stolen (especially since there was a 25% reward)... Potentially Theymos just moved on from this so...

I think there was another thread on him to as details of his identity were published briefly by a user here about 3 or 4 years ago. The information was since deleted.

Multi sig wasn’t as prevalent as it is now, real question is why there is still a single point of failure for forum funds in 2019

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April 18, 2019, 01:36:20 PM
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That's interesting, never heard that story before, do you remember who posted the thread? Give some more details and I can try to search for some keywords.
This incident has been a long time, until now it has not been solved.
Many want to solve it but have not succeeded.
This is more complete information.

Treasurers

Looking for people to store some of the forum's money

Forum Treasures Public Addresses for Transparency

Parapian's BTC address holding BCT money?

Forum 250 Btc theft, what's being done about it? Inside job?

Paraipan a treasurer for the forum holding 250 btc allegedly died in April of 2014 since then the account has logged in multiple times which is fairly suspicious. What is being done to recover the 250 Bitcoins because this is starting to look like a scam and it could be an inside job. The management of this forum is getting sketchier and sketchier and with things getting worse I am feeling like I will have to start cleaning things up around here. Pair this scam with the complete mismanagement of the new forum software, the forums donations have been drained by incompetence and thievery.

Paraipan's btt profile:    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=29395
btt treasurer list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155000.0
btt donater list: https://bitcointalk.org/donate.html
profile of developer of new btt forum software: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=207730

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April 18, 2019, 02:34:57 PM
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No, several people looked into it, but nobody was able to make contact with anyone who knew anything about what he did with the BTC or who might've stolen it after his death. The 25% reward still stands on any returned amount.

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April 18, 2019, 03:07:18 PM
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It looks like the funds ended up at bitstamp.

Contact bitstmp and find out who the owner of the account who has a deposit address of 3GEnQ7ChhGoPCcBn2CRJexNcgK7FMaBGTr is. This is likely the person who has access to the 250BTC that paraipan was holding for the forum, and likely a heir to the estate of paraipan.

The above address received BTC from 1K3CxWrq91rByL9PjV9wccfhyuToF2WNRX and 1G6Pvh2713qT3pwDAXZwi77KRscR3wKcXp in 2015.

1G6Pvh2713qT3pwDAXZwi77KRscR3wKcXp received .5BTC from 1F1s6gdLNT8YP4eqrwwsyfxfF5gaCJ9nAP earlier this year.

1F1s6gdLNT8YP4eqrwwsyfxfF5gaCJ9nAP received 0.9999BTC from 16bzFLrJpw3BMJWxJiivEwbPaPXQuQjVGh the same day as the above transaction.

16bzFLrJpw3BMJWxJiivEwbPaPXQuQjVGh received BTC in 2012 AND 100BTC that can reasonably be traced back to the 250BTC paraipan was holding by looking back just 3 transactions to find the address that paraipan held the forum's BTC in.

Bitstamp will likely ask for a court order to release the identity of that account holder, and I don't think most courts will issue such an order to anyone except to either you or law enforcement who is investigating the theft of the above BTC.

Who knows if someone bought his computer equipment (perhaps at an estate sale), or if this was the family moving funds, perhaps not knowing the money belongs to someone else.

Has anyone contacted Bitstamp about the missing coins?

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April 18, 2019, 03:14:53 PM
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Who knows if someone bought his computer equipment (perhaps at an estate sale), or if this was the family moving funds, perhaps not knowing the money belongs to someone else.

Has anyone contacted Bitstamp about the missing coins?

This is always my issue with exploring into this sort of thing.
Who knows if the original owner even has the coins, most chains have been tainted and even selling the private keys was sometimes done in the past...

I remember nottingham university in the UK had a professor bring out something that blacklisted addresses where "dark funds" ended up (stuff stolen or related to illegal activites) and there is always some dubiousness as most people try to use anonymising services in this space (usually for normal reasons, who wants to advertise how much money they actually have)?

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No, several people looked into it, but nobody was able to make contact with anyone who knew anything about what he did with the BTC or who might've stolen it after his death. The 25% reward still stands on any returned amount.

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April 18, 2019, 03:26:41 PM
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Who knows if someone bought his computer equipment (perhaps at an estate sale), or if this was the family moving funds, perhaps not knowing the money belongs to someone else.

Has anyone contacted Bitstamp about the missing coins?

This is always my issue with exploring into this sort of thing.
Who knows if the original owner even has the coins, most chains have been tainted and even selling the private keys was sometimes done in the past...

I think bitstamp probably knows who had the coins as they appear to have been deposited into their exchange.

If someone can figure out the owner of the bitstamp account, the owner can at least be asked questions about the coins.

If the coins were moved on behalf of paraipans estate, I think it is probably too late to try to recover the money as there are time limits on how long creditors have to file claims against an estate, although the lack of service may affect these limits — an estate lawyer can provide more specific advice on the matter.

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Who knows if someone bought his computer equipment (perhaps at an estate sale), or if this was the family moving funds, perhaps not knowing the money belongs to someone else.

Has anyone contacted Bitstamp about the missing coins?

This is always my issue with exploring into this sort of thing.
Who knows if the original owner even has the coins, most chains have been tainted and even selling the private keys was sometimes done in the past...

I think bitstamp probably knows who had the coins as they appear to have been deposited into their exchange.

If someone can figure out the owner of the bitstamp account, the owner can at least be asked questions about the coins.

If the coins were moved on behalf of paraipans estate, I think it is probably too late to try to recover the money as there are time limits on how long creditors have to file claims against an estate, although the lack of service may affect these limits — an estate lawyer can provide more specific advice on the matter.

I doubt the owner would give any form of information without some form of legal request.

I can't think of a valid reason not to switch to multi-sig asap. Paraipan has already proven what can happen without it.

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April 18, 2019, 04:54:19 PM
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Has his death be confirmed? You know on 2014 Bitcoin reached 1k value after the pump and 250 bitcoin were 250k usd, if he death has be confirmed somewhere than RIP.



An interesting fact the account vite who announced the peraipan's death here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583286.0 seems to be now a hacked or sold account http://archive.fo/MTfeg , looking at his post history. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=49941;sa=showPosts;start=0

Username: vite
Current Post Count: 1014
Current Rank: Legendary
Bitcoin Address: 35SFL9incRGj8pu7Q8YBxV3WZux3ByQsMY

Good luck on the project. Hope this coin will become much more worthy in the future. Cheeers.

Address: 1DDeQqc9xCxtW8tyrNP6afkM5y6FzzWtSk

Sadly both addresses are virgin.

Raw data of addresses involved

Code:
1D2hSwYYiEmEim2ot8Ga3vhxY46Hd8Z5gc

143Qs82VgAt9HaSxtJnk9Cp5QzPDw88hFn 1NNTmFuUTSM88oDztgM7Fczmk1Vtj7TF3e
1GpmtW7YovmRGcNrf3P6NEaYm6dikrkv7w
143Qs82VgAt9HaSxtJnk9Cp5QzPDw88hFn

14QevMsY5KDLJuNNL86ZyYwEFQEviVUhqm
3AcGbPBMGVsMC2kPSgqwYn63UhVSChTEp9
1Nf1vbBEuURWHvqgBpN5dw1zyQZvDBQdj1
3DNsL67AdgMq2z21N9EWxQnRqtECatBjoa
38ktjFh4G6r5VvqbNNZ8zpujUUiaZ2MEpW


17nHkrMaXyRyKdoqiyeDDC27vCGAc7SL7h
37eBwh6TH5n93z1ifEpb7U553Q3UmYdcYi
18KJBw1FpYveqTmFpPphWgJobozrssJJ2B
3Pj4bBGGhWrtpNSDEx8RQtVvfdrx3RHyrE
1Hr6iMqWiPDdkrcjJbDYNKzjPpRMHsByLM
3AJNm5fqrs5n67acpExdD3opVvXsvfYvwo
114FkMZMuxNBGx6y2CG1F15n4eVYkht1z4





143Qs82VgAt9HaSxtJnk9Cp5QzPDw88hFn


1AzTFeLr7L59aMjjLagKvHsZVBFTwFcrvf



19jZC7k4apchzkYYzb2GSvDH5E5ipTjFY6
1Gozcijs8FbuBkkeABTAp1JZ1JwzS8k6nT
1L7pfak1spHnC7inTaXBaEoaSMqZdXmtGr
1H9jiaunR16DMzmSjaQYkqvEas5GjC9opf
166mncX8Eo4tTh6pU2KUqaH67pudnPYB9d
16268hB86YiM95taTG729p8w6b8nDL8nug



14amNafSso8NQSFCfsjjPy1cXUnv94jX15
1KwEdSM5cWRbCQNeqcUera95vHvZMYPEFC
1G3kLSsVZYa5BrkEwJ1aZkNUoqB9NDdzXi
37DCWUGQHDuYgH4H3Dr3PNZ6aqmPG1chr3





1G6Pvh2713qT3pwDAXZwi77KRscR3wKcXp
1LxyJrPu3QUu2mAW8dk45m31G9UfoY2kdh
12cAhyk3t4jqVkADw4dgiyTQPcqN7aw1GT
3GEnQ7ChhGoPCcBn2CRJexNcgK7FMaBGTr

16bzFLrJpw3BMJWxJiivEwbPaPXQuQjVGh

1L7pfak1spHnC7inTaXBaEoaSMqZdXmtGr
14amNafSso8NQSFCfsjjPy1cXUnv94jX15
1PFkqgBBrSKikyyUGDerZMfzvCNPgKrR3o



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April 18, 2019, 04:54:56 PM
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Just picked up a few addresses that were involved in the chain of addresses and still have BTC in them

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/143Qs82VgAt9HaSxtJnk9Cp5QzPDw88hFn
Address   143Qs82VgAt9HaSxtJnk9Cp5QzPDw88hFn
Hash 160   215d214c4abab48e85a66666b1578bf47b2c8208
Transactions
No. Transactions   8   
Total Received   182.00000002 BTC   
Final Balance   30.00000002 BTC

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/16bzFLrJpw3BMJWxJiivEwbPaPXQuQjVGh
Address   16bzFLrJpw3BMJWxJiivEwbPaPXQuQjVGh
Hash 160   3d768f2a851207666470db6cf35482bc63f38527
Transactions
No. Transactions   4   
Total Received   101.00000001 BTC   
Final Balance   100.00000001 BTC

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1G6Pvh2713qT3pwDAXZwi77KRscR3wKcXp
Address   1G6Pvh2713qT3pwDAXZwi77KRscR3wKcXp
Hash 160   a58f1a9d9a857f299b39ab04a6b565bee7cfafe7
Transactions
No. Transactions   8   
Total Received   46.05435398 BTC   
Final Balance   5 BTC



 

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April 18, 2019, 11:21:51 PM
Last edit: April 19, 2019, 12:03:31 AM by coinlocket$
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This case is very interesting, spent some hours on it and I found something very very interesting, I will dig more tomorrow. Bed time now.

Edit: before posting here if I can confirm what I found I will send a message to Theymos so do not except till I can confirm what I found.

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April 21, 2019, 08:24:09 PM
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After 3 days of researches.

I've found a private key of Paraipan but the address is empty, I found a lot of interesting things but this may seem offensive for somebody, so I don't really know if I should post them or not.

For the private key, I will never share it publicly, if theymos wants it I will send it by pm only to him. (the key is for a very low-value address and I do not think it will be used ever again)

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April 21, 2019, 08:29:13 PM
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After 3 days of researches.

I've found a private key of Paraipan but the address is empty, I found a lot of interesting things but this may seem offensive for somebody, so I don't really know if I should post them or not.

For the private key, I will never share it publicly, if theymos wants it I will send it by pm only to him. (the key is for a very low-value address and I do not think it will be used ever again)
How did you find his private key?

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