Yobit spam on the forum

[Chris!]

This has been an issue for literally years. Just put every yoshit spammer on ignore and you're golden. It's very easy.

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[AdolfinWolf]

Another one-liner only proves my point. Have a nice day spammer  

Which is? That post was 98 characters long. I didn't get paid for that. Nor for this one.

[Tyrantt]

I recently got their mail on my inbox. Their rates are tempting but I don't understand the hostility towards Yobit. Stake.com were encouraging users to post for micro peanuts that has resulted in way more spam than any other campaign. Compared to that Yobit looked pretty decent.

Please help me understand.

If you read Yobit terms and conditions, two things were very obvious.

1-  They will not accept Negative Red Trust Members
2-  They will not accept people who have ling period of inactivity.

Then, How come Yobit started to pay everyone (even Red trusted Members)  ?  They could have been restricted with their selections and that could have saved them money also.

They accept the forsaken as well? Holy shit, I gotta run over there right now.

[starmman]

Seems a little draconian / heavy handed to me, why not ban all sig campaigns? Most of the posts that I saw from yobit users (myself included) were constructive - however there were more posts than usual in the pages that I frequent for the few days that the campaign was active.

[asche]

Seems a little draconian / heavy handed to me, why not ban all sig campaigns? Most of the posts that I saw from yobit users (myself included) were constructive

Proof of your being constructive is the fact you did not get banned.

However I can assure you it wasn't a majority of constructive posts.

I only did a dive in the postings of 10 members or so, that were posting 20 posts/day, and I can guarantee there was nothing related to quality in their posts.

Of course SOME of you had good intentions and were respectful of the forum, but again that's only some of you.

Theymos or nobody would have anything against that campaign if only quality posts were counted, however this is not the case.

Reboot the campaign with a decent manager on forum and everything will go well I suppose.

[gentlemand]

Seems a little draconian / heavy handed to me, why not ban all sig campaigns? Most of the posts that I saw from yobit users (myself included) were constructive - however there were more posts than usual in the pages that I frequent for the few days that the campaign was active.

There were indeed some proper users who were signed up and being themselves as ever, but they were definitely a small minority. I noticed something was up before becoming aware that Yobit was alive again.

It was totally the right thing to do. It just goes to show the tsunami waiting to be unleashed if the slightest chance to exploit the shit out of everything emerges.

[starmman]

Seems a little draconian / heavy handed to me, why not ban all sig campaigns? Most of the posts that I saw from yobit users (myself included) were constructive

Proof of your being constructive is the fact you did not get banned.

However I can assure you it wasn't a majority of constructive posts.

I only did a dive in the postings of 10 members or so, that were posting 20 posts/day, and I can guarantee there was nothing related to quality in their posts.

Of course SOME of you had good intentions and were respectful of the forum, but again that's only some of you.

Theymos or nobody would have anything against that campaign if only quality posts were counted, however this is not the case.

Reboot the campaign with a decent manager on forum and everything will go well I suppose.

I'd been signed up to the yobit sig for a few years - and tend to only post on a few threads - so I probably missed the bulk of the spammy posts.

[LoyceV]

So why are you utilizing it? You think you are somehow different, better because you have a shitmixer signature and thus allowed to post one liners of zero value? Let me news flash you: you're not. You post is the display of hypocrisy and lack of interest in the future of this space. Sooner you realise how logos-less you are being here, the better for the sake of bitcointalk and bitcoin.

If you think I'm somewhat defending yobit here, you are mistaken. I'm just standing straight against the flow of false justice!  

How can you promote something but not stand behind it?

Millions of people working in the advertising business do this for a living, and most people seem to accept that.
But for those people, there's no direct link to their own personal reputation and the product they advertise.

In a way, advertising something in your signature is like using a celebrity's name to advertise a certain product. If the product is bad, chances are no moviestar wants to use his name for it. That doesn't matter for account farmers with dozens of accounts, which is why so many accounts reactivated to join the Yobit campaign and start spamming.

[tranthidung]

many accounts reactivated to join the Yobit campaign and start spamming.

With the serious response from theymos on Yobit campaign, I thought that we might have new unofficial rule on campaigns the potentially cause spamming in the forum:
(1) Participants will get different temp bans: depend on total bad reports on their works during specific period (7 days, for instance), and percentage of good (exact) reports on their posts.
(2) Temp ban on signatures of those companies: 60 days (for Yobit), but the period of signature temp ban might be discussed and should have 3 or 4 levels, like what we have with the forum account's temp ban: 7 days, 14 days, 30 days, and last one is perm ban.
(3) Temp ban of signature on campaign managers whom run spamming campaigns and keep running them after get warnings from admin, staffs, DT members. It means they won't be able to advertise their campaign management roles via their signatures.

[eaLiTy]

I recently got their mail on my inbox. Their rates are tempting but I don't understand the hostility towards Yobit. Stake.com were encouraging users to post for micro peanuts that has resulted in way more spam than any other campaign. Compared to that Yobit looked pretty decent.

Please help me understand.

The problem was that many accounts who were inactive for a long time started waking up and there is no restrictions what so ever and negative trust was also allowed with the way things were going, i am not sure about it but i have seen a few users with negative trust wearing the signature and come on 140 post a week is just too much, the major problem with me is their way in which the exchange is run, with all the scam tokens just to pump and dump and i am not sure whether they changed anything.

[legendster]

Then, How come Yobit started to pay everyone (even Red trusted Members)  ?  They could have been restricted with their selections and that could have saved them money also.

I haven't been in their program and I have no clue if they have paid other red tagged members.

Hold on for a minute how did anyone find out if red tagged members were paid in the first place? All the payments are sent in the yobit balance and its not shown publicly anywhere about which users are enrolled and when they're paid.

So who spread this information about red tagged accounts getting paid? Might it be that that person himself is a multiaccount farmer (possibly with a red tagged account)?

The problem was that many accounts who were inactive for a long time started waking up and there is no restrictions what so ever and negative trust was also allowed with the way things were going, i am not sure about it but i have seen a few users with negative trust wearing the signature and come on 140 post a week is just too much, the major problem with me is their way in which the exchange is run, with all the scam tokens just to pump and dump and i am not sure whether they changed anything.

Most people, like me got an email. Typically for any signature campaign on BTT no one is "notified by email" that something is launching. No wonder many accounts 'woke up'.

And let's not act like pump and dumps are limited to Yobit only.

[LTU_btc]

I haven't been in their program and I have no clue if they have paid other red tagged members.

Hold on for a minute how did anyone find out if red tagged members were paid in the first place? All the payments are sent in the yobit balance and its not shown publicly anywhere about which users are enrolled and when they're paid.

So who spread this information about red tagged accounts getting paid? Might it be that that person himself is a multiaccount farmer (possibly with a red tagged account)?

There was few red trusted users users like mdayonliner who said that they got paid from Yobit campaign. There is no way how we can verify it, but I think there is no point them to lie and wear Yobit signature for free.
But probably it was not intentional mistake by Yobit, they just didn't adjusted their bot to reject red trusted users. Same like they didn't adjusted their payment rates. They planned to pay 0.00016 BTC per post, but in first day after relaunch of campaign all participants got 0.0003 BTC per post.

[AdolfinWolf]

So why are you utilizing it? You think you are somehow different, better because you have a shitmixer signature and thus allowed to post one liners of zero value? Let me news flash you: you're not. You post is the display of hypocrisy and lack of interest in the future of this space. Sooner you realise how logos-less you are being here, the better for the sake of bitcointalk and bitcoin.

If you think I'm somewhat defending yobit here, you are mistaken. I'm just standing straight against the flow of false justice!  

How can you promote something but not stand behind it?

Millions of people working in the advertising business do this for a living, and most people seem to accept that.
But for those people, there's no direct link to their own personal reputation and the product they advertise.

Sure, i agree with most of what you're saying, but most if not all advertisements about financial services or instruments with extremely high risk are advertised as such, with at least something like a disclaimer.
(And, as you said, they are usually not done on personal title..)

I mean sure, crypto is an unregulated space and such, but you'd expect some common sense from certain people here.

Hold on for a minute how did anyone find out if red tagged members were paid in the first place? All the payments are sent in the yobit balance and its not shown publicly anywhere about which users are enrolled and when they're paid.

So who spread this information about red tagged accounts getting paid? Might it be that that person himself is a multiaccount farmer (possibly with a red tagged account)?

Multiple red trusted users were gloating about the fact that they got balance added to their account. I don't think they really have any real motive to lie about that. Perhaps yobit didn't pay them out in the end ofcourse, that's on them.

Most people, like me got an email. Typically for any signature campaign on BTT no one is "notified by email" that something is launching. No wonder many accounts 'woke up'.

And let's not act like pump and dumps are limited to Yobit only.

I'm just curious.. What exchange as "established" as yobit (or more or less comparable in volume), is orchestrating pump and dumps? Genuinely interested to know..

[JaredKaragen]

I haven't been in their program and I have no clue if they have paid other red tagged members.

Hold on for a minute how did anyone find out if red tagged members were paid in the first place? All the payments are sent in the yobit balance and its not shown publicly anywhere about which users are enrolled and when they're paid.

So who spread this information about red tagged accounts getting paid? Might it be that that person himself is a multiaccount farmer (possibly with a red tagged account)?

There was few red trusted users users like mdayonliner who said that they got paid from Yobit campaign. There is no way how we can verify it, but I think there is no point them to lie and wear Yobit signature for free.
But probably it was not intentional mistake by Yobit, they just didn't adjusted their bot to reject red trusted users. Same like they didn't adjusted their payment rates. They planned to pay 0.00016 BTC per post, but in first day after relaunch of campaign all participants got 0.0003 BTC per post.

Ill admit;  I was with yobit's sig campaign for a LONG time;  and that's just because it paid the most (years ago when I signed up) and continued to pay right up to the end (for me).   I never relied on these funds; and TBH; never once did I post just to get paid....   It was a nice bonus to get a kickback for doing the shit i'd be doing anyways.

I never shitposted; and rarely left one-line responses unless busy, fed up with the person im responding to, or just flat out the answer was 1-3 words.     Yobit's sig campaign didn't increase my post count;  my post count followed the speed of the market, and changes with the mining software as I was always updating scripts, batches, or just helping out others.  Just like how its been slow in crypto for the last ~year.  My post history reflects it because of my type of activities.

I was never banned;  or anything similar; but I would have appreciated knowledge of this discussion before finding out the ass-wrong-way.... maybe notify legendary members of something like this in the future.  Coming in and thinking my 2FA has been hacked because my signatures are changed.... Not fun.


I have heard a LOT about people saying they weren't paid from yobit for this or that.    Most people either walked me into a scenario where they were scammed, or they deposited to the wrong wallet;  expecting a person on the blind "other end" to undo their fuck-up(s).  The delayed campaign payouts were a thing;  but  they always eventually worked;  im pretty sure a yobit owner has an alert that they acknowledge to be able to pay you out...   and Ive only seen payouts processed when I saw active moderators in chat that weren't dominickerzog or whatever his actual username is...

When blockchain fees were at their highest for BTC;  I actually caught them in some pretty shady activity.  They were taking an extra 1.5mBTC (over $20 back then) per withdraw; to "speed up the transactions" via their twitter post.  When the backlog of TX's died, and the extra TX for speed-of-processing fees was not necessary anymore;  they were still charging that fee for over 3 months.   I messaged them about it;  wherein their response was unambiguously that they were transparent in the reasoning for the fee... which they were still charging.   But what I pointed out and what got ignored from then-on:  was the fact that  the TX they sent me to my wallet;  had a fee that 1/2 the original TX fee withheld, not including the "extra speed fee" that was taken from me to "speed up the transaction".     The next day;  their withdraw fee went back to ~1mbit.

Not to mention the fact that, I am pretty sure they are purposefully running certain coins on bad chains;  like VSync;  (XVS/VSX)  they have been purposefully continuing a forked chain for about 2 years+ now.

If their staking wallet forks off a bad chain;  they leave it;  this way they have all of the infrastructure to continue selling it on their platform; and continually liquidating $ out of people.

Yobit's fake volume was easy to spot:  recoccouring buys/sells at the same value that made no sense given the state of the coin's market, buys/sells that were smaller than the minimum you could do from the webpage,  and buys/sell orders that popped up together and went away together....

Lots of fake volumes, but almost always on their own shitcoins they continually ICO'd and dumped.

[FIFA worldcup]

I haven't been in their program and I have no clue if they have paid other red tagged members.

Hold on for a minute how did anyone find out if red tagged members were paid in the first place? All the payments are sent in the yobit balance and its not shown publicly anywhere about which users are enrolled and when they're paid.

So who spread this information about red tagged accounts getting paid? Might it be that that person himself is a multiaccount farmer (possibly with a red tagged account)?

There was few red trusted users users like mdayonliner who said that they got paid from Yobit campaign. There is no way how we can verify it, but I think there is no point them to lie and wear Yobit signature for free.
But probably it was not intentional mistake by Yobit, they just didn't adjusted their bot to reject red trusted users. Same like they didn't adjusted their payment rates. They planned to pay 0.00016 BTC per post, but in first day after relaunch of campaign all participants got 0.0003 BTC per post.

Yobit did not did their homework well in resuming their campaign. I wonder why were they in a hurry to start the campaign if they have not tested the bots.

Giving more than the stated amount as pey per post, enrolling and paying Red trusted accounts (when they have mentioned that they will not accept them) etc are few examples of their mis-management.

They corrected the Pay per post issue on the 2nd day, but before they could further solve the red trust enrollment issue, Theymos rightly acted and get rid of their campaign altogether.

For sure, this forum is independent from Yobit  and no one should be allowed to misuse the forum for their own wrong doings.

[feryjhie]

didn't theymos already ban yobit signature so every time we want to change into yobit it changes to am I spamming right?
but i see this account (alyssa85) still able to wear the yobit signature

[snipie]

didn't theymos already ban yobit signature so every time we want to change into yobit it changes to am I spamming right?
but i see this account (alyssa85) still able to wear the yobit signature

I saw someone wearing yobit signature with a link not redirecting to yobit site, but this user link is redirecting there! weird..

[blurryeyed]

didn't theymos already ban yobit signature so every time we want to change into yobit it changes to am I spamming right?
but i see this account (alyssa85) still able to wear the yobit signature

Thanks for pointing this out - I have reported the user to moderators.

[JaredKaragen]

And less than 24 hours after I made that reply above, they disabled the freecoins section....    coincidence?  probably.

I highly suggest anyone who knows the hot wallet addresses watch the funds and see where they go.  it should be easy to deduce many of the active cold wallet addresses as they are still actively running....

[Natalim]

didn't theymos already ban yobit signature so every time we want to change into yobit it changes to am I spamming right?
but i see this account (alyssa85) still able to wear the yobit signature

I saw someone wearing yobit signature with a link not redirecting to yobit site, but this user link is redirecting there! weird..

I've seen this user actively posting using yobit signature, I would like to know how they bypass the signature ban.
This one as well, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138339.msg50861221#msg50861221 , he is wearing a hero signature, they must do some kind of trick or there's a new update that we are not aware of.