Keep religious beliefs personal to promote peaceful coexistence

[BADecker]

^^^ And Jesus's biggest, first instruction for us is to spread the Gospel. Now all we have to do is figure out if spreading the Gospel is a religious activity.

And God's biggest action was to wipe out the whole world except a few people, that isn't very helpful when you are trying to spread the Gospel, is it? Perhaps Jesus and God are angry and each other and they do opposite things.

You keep saying this. Don't you realize that people aren't strong enough to wipe themselves out and yet remain alive?

People asked for destruction by eating the fruit, and then by acting against everything that was good and right. When their request for destruction overcame their request for life strongly enough, God simply gave them what they asked for... just like God gives us everything we have.

If God hadn't given them what they asked for, you would complain that God wasn't the giving God He says He is.

They were a warning for you, those people were. Do you really want destruction that badly? that you keep on asking for it like those people did?

Jesus is the way that God made so we can ask for both, destruction and life... mostly because we don't have as big a choice either direction as those pre-Flood people did. However, just to please you, God set standard life limits to less than 120 years, generally. He did this so that you know by example of all people that you only have so much time to make your life request stronger than your destruction request.

Turn while you have time.

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[Naida_BR]

You are right that if someone hides his personal beliefs then we will probably reduce hate and there will be peace around the world.
The problem is that some people try to show off their religious beliefs in order to show that they are superior over other religious teams. This is what causes chaos in my opinion. We need to try to convince people that none is superior over someone else. We are all people.

[semobo]

Religions were made by humans to live good and peace life but now it is one of the thing causing terrorist attacks everywhere,some says muslims some says Christians but religions were not taught to kill anyone only people doing it for their benefits.

[Astargath]

^^^ And Jesus's biggest, first instruction for us is to spread the Gospel. Now all we have to do is figure out if spreading the Gospel is a religious activity.

And God's biggest action was to wipe out the whole world except a few people, that isn't very helpful when you are trying to spread the Gospel, is it? Perhaps Jesus and God are angry and each other and they do opposite things.

You keep saying this. Don't you realize that people aren't strong enough to wipe themselves out and yet remain alive?

People asked for destruction by eating the fruit, and then by acting against everything that was good and right. When their request for destruction overcame their request for life strongly enough, God simply gave them what they asked for... just like God gives us everything we have.

If God hadn't given them what they asked for, you would complain that God wasn't the giving God He says He is.

They were a warning for you, those people were. Do you really want destruction that badly? that you keep on asking for it like those people did?

Jesus is the way that God made so we can ask for both, destruction and life... mostly because we don't have as big a choice either direction as those pre-Flood people did. However, just to please you, God set standard life limits to less than 120 years, generally. He did this so that you know by example of all people that you only have so much time to make your life request stronger than your destruction request.

Turn while you have time.

Well I certainly didn't. I didn't eat the fruit myself now, did I?

''If God hadn't given them what they asked for, you would complain that God wasn't the giving God He says He is.'' WOW IT'S AMAZING, NOT ONLY YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST WITH 100% CERTAINTY BUT YOU ARE ALSO ABLE TO KNOW WHAT PEOPLE FROM THE PAST WERE THINKING, IMPRESSIVE. Are you a god yourself or why do you keep claiming that people ''asked'' for it?

[BADecker]

^^^ You didn't receive the command to not eat the fruit, did you? In fact, God never even told you which fruit it is, did He? So you are going to die for some other reason. Here's what the reason is:

People are similar enough now to what they were then. So, it's easy to know what they thought back then. All we need do is find out what they think now.

Since now-people don't have enough faith in God to cry out to Him for salvation, they will die, just like those others who partook of the corrupted genetics of Adam and Eve, after it was corrupted by whatever chemicals the fruit had in it.

You partake of the genetics, and you don't even acknowledge God. So why should He save you? You are just like those people of long ago... except that you are a bit dumber.

[Spendulus]

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Well I certainly didn't. I didn't eat the fruit myself now, did I?

''If God hadn't given them what they asked for, you would complain that God wasn't the giving God He says He is.'' WOW IT'S AMAZING, NOT ONLY YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST WITH 100% CERTAINTY BUT YOU ARE ALSO ABLE TO KNOW WHAT PEOPLE FROM THE PAST WERE THINKING, IMPRESSIVE. Are you a god yourself or why do you keep claiming that people ''asked'' for it?

Hey, you don't know the whole story so let me explain it.

I know what happened with 100% certainty.

God told them not to eat these fruits, but to save them and make a special treat, they didn't listen, they just sat there chomping away.

He continued explaining how to ferment fruits and make wine. Then he noticed they'd fallen asleep.

He was pissed, because his jug of hard cider was almost empty. And all the fruit trees were down there on Earth. If they wouldn't listen and do what he said, a bad thing would happen.

Where would he get his next jug of happy juice?

[Astargath]

^^^ You didn't receive the command to not eat the fruit, did you? In fact, God never even told you which fruit it is, did He? So you are going to die for some other reason. Here's what the reason is:

People are similar enough now to what they were then. So, it's easy to know what they thought back then. All we need do is find out what they think now.

Since now-people don't have enough faith in God to cry out to Him for salvation, they will die, just like those others who partook of the corrupted genetics of Adam and Eve, after it was corrupted by whatever chemicals the fruit had in it.

You partake of the genetics, and you don't even acknowledge God. So why should He save you? You are just like those people of long ago... except that you are a bit dumber.

So why didn't he kill more people then? Aren't we just as bad as those ones he killed with the flood? Why didn't he get rid of more people? Why did he only kill those people and not more afterwards? I mean, he didn't come back yet so it means we are just as bad, right?

[BADecker]

^^^ You forgot already? God gives what people ask of Him.

Be happy that God understands that you don't understand. He is being merciful with you, and patiently hoping you will turn away from asking for death.

I mean, how much more slapping in the face will He take from you? How much more disrespect? What's extremely interesting is that God is way more sensitive than you or I. But he still puts up with your disrespect, even though it cuts Him to the quick.

You should love Him for this.

[Astargath]

^^^ You forgot already? God gives what people ask of Him.

Be happy that God understands that you don't understand. He is being merciful with you, and patiently hoping you will turn away from asking for death.

I mean, how much more slapping in the face will He take from you? How much more disrespect? What's extremely interesting is that God is way more sensitive than you or I. But he still puts up with your disrespect, even though it cuts Him to the quick.

You should love Him for this.

So why hasn't he killed me yet? If im asking for it, he should have killed me already just like he did with those millions of people, why is he suddenly not killing everyone like he used to? Where is the logic here, I see none, you argue that god killed everyone because they asked for it and you tell me I'm asking for it and yet god doesn't kill me, perhaps he is scared of me or something?

[KingScorpio]

financial sovereignty is an asset that cant be shared, a worker can either work for capitalist A or Capitalist B, if the workers arent supposed to be masss available junk but human being with human rights, the capital that gives soverignty over those workers is limited and highly fought about

[Viron]

One major factor that constitutes violence is clash of religious beliefs. So many has lost husband, wives, sisters, brothers, children, friends and loved ones due to attacks bored by religious beliefs.

   How can we stop clashes of religious beliefs
Be you a Christian, Muslim etc or even of no believe one major way to coexist together is upholding mutual respect
Most time we fined our self being a fan of a particular believe than actually being religious or practising that believe that why the burning hate for others who don't share the same believe is strong.

I am a Christian by believe but free-spirited by ideology I reside in a place predominantly occupied by Muslims but I have survived here by not enforcing my religious thoughts on others and share understanding.
Most time we don't choose our religion if I where to be born into a Muslim family I might probably be a Muslim so I don't have any right to take the life of someone born into a Muslim family.

We could go about our duties, jobs play games together live in this world happily and still keep our believes at heart without it inflicting harm to others

   Stop stigmatising gay's

I am straight in terms of my sexuality but have nothing against gay, or bisexuals.
Gay marriage or relationship is illegal from where I come from and attached to it are some severe jail terms. But we fail to understand this act is actually not a criminal act and the Two parties involved are doing at there own consent so it wrong to play God in the lives of humans and condemn them because you are in the position of power.
That's why the western world are more developed than where I come from. Ones you put a stigma on someone because of there choices you cripple other aspect of there lives you make them withdrawn and unhappy these can be people with some beneficial talent that can improve the nation.
In conclusion live and let others live

While I agree with your overall message, and I do think that "live and let live" should be the way to go, I just don't think it's ever gonna happen.
Religions, by design, just aren't compatible with each other. And religious people, at least in my experience, tend to not have a high opinion of us "unbelievers" either.
Maybe I'm too cynical about it, I dunno, but I find rare to find a religious person that doesn't bring up their faith much, or tries to convert me at some point.

[BADecker]

^^^ The problem with this is that some religions tell their adherents to be violent with people of other religions.... particularly Islam.

So, it's a good idea to know the other religions, even if you don't share.

Most religions have embedded within them the idea to share their knowledge. The idea to not share religious beliefs, is itself a religious belief that is being shared... in contradiction to its own statement... right in the theme of this thread.

[Astargath]

^^^ The problem with this is that some religions tell their adherents to be violent with people of other religions.... particularly Islam.

So, it's a good idea to know the other religions, even if you don't share.

Most religions have embedded within them the idea to share their knowledge. The idea to not share religious beliefs, is itself a religious belief that is being shared... in contradiction to its own statement... right in the theme of this thread.

It's not because not sharing something doesn't have rules or any code written anywhere, someone who doesn't believe in gods cannot be called religious, simply because he does not follow any particular rules from any particular book like you do, we also don't worship any kind of god or deity. You are confused.

[BADecker]

^^^ Except that the dictionary definition of religion shows that people who DON'T necessarily believe in God most certainly can be religious.

In the same way that people have heads, arms, legs, and torsos, etc., so they all have the laws of God written in their hearts via DNA programming.

So, you actually believe in God, because you haven't entirely overridden your basic DNA programming... yet. Of course, if you finally do it, you will die shortly thereafter.

[Astargath]

^^^ Except that the dictionary definition of religion shows that people who DON'T necessarily believe in God most certainly can be religious.

In the same way that people have heads, arms, legs, and torsos, etc., so they all have the laws of God written in their hearts via DNA programming.

So, you actually believe in God, because you haven't entirely overridden your basic DNA programming... yet. Of course, if you finally do it, you will die shortly thereafter.

''religion
/rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/
noun
noun: religion
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
"ideas about the relationship between science and religion"
synonyms:   faith, belief, divinity, worship, creed, teaching, doctrine, theology; More

a particular system of faith and worship.
plural noun: religions
"the world's great religions"

a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion.''

First and second definition include faith and worship, third one could be the best one for your trash argument, however not believing in gods is not an ''interest'' or ''pursuit''

Definition of interest is:

''Your interests are the activities that you enjoy doing and the subjects that you like to spend time learning about''

Not believing in gods is not an activity or a subject you need to learn.

Definition of pursuit is:

''an activity that you spend time doing, usually when you are not working''

Again, not believing in something is not an activity.

Therefore using the dictionary we can conclude that not believing in gods is not a religion.

[BADecker]

^^^

religion
[ ri-lij-uh n ]

noun

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.

3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.

4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.

5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.

6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.

religions, Archaic .
7. religious rites: painted priests performing religions deep into the night.

Archaic .
8. strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow.

Notice that most of the definition have nothing to do with a supreme being... at least not directly. So, as usual, you have been proven wrong. Besides, what does this have to do with the idea of keeping quiet about your religious stuff? You certainly aren't keeping quiet about YOUR religious beliefs.

[MidKnight]

I could not agree more. Religion is a very sensitive topic most importantly to Muslims so we should rather talk about anything outside of that topic because when we see two people with different religion has a conflict together, the fight is autmatically not just between them but the whole side of  worshippers.

[BADecker]

^^^ If that is really your religious belief about religion, why are you sharing it with the rest of us?

[Astargath]

^^^

religion
[ ri-lij-uh n ]

noun

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.

3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.

4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.

5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.

6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.

religions, Archaic .
7. religious rites: painted priests performing religions deep into the night.

Archaic .
8. strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow.

Notice that most of the definition have nothing to do with a supreme being... at least not directly. So, as usual, you have been proven wrong. Besides, what does this have to do with the idea of keeping quiet about your religious stuff? You certainly aren't keeping quiet about YOUR religious beliefs.

1. Not believing in silly science fiction books isn't about being concerned with what caused the universe and is also not a set of beliefs either.

2. Not believing in gods is not a set of beliefs, it's simply not accepting shit without evidence.

3. Same as 2

4...

5. same as 2

6. I don't believe it, I know it for a fact since evidence points towards it, your god doesn't exist as suggested by science, I also don't follow it devotedly, there is nothing to follow, I simply don't believe in it.

7. and 8. useless


Again, not believing in gods is not a religion proven by definition.

[BADecker]

^^^ Since your language is this different from the standard, I don't really understand what you mean, and you won't understand this post.