Yobit and campaign manager discussion

[akamit]

Glad to hear that you got a reply from Yobit.

Keep Yobit's shit reputation aside, because they've already lost their reputation here and nothing left to lose again for them...

But the most important thing I can think off now is to save the forum from spam and cheating and that's the thing only a good manager can do, no doubt you are a good manager with the capability to handle 100s of participants. I wrote "cheating" because if there is no manager then it is more likely we can expect multiple accounts enrolled. It's not about Yobit, it's about the campaign and the payments, we just can't allow cheaters.

If you don't take the job then they will run the campaign and you know what, they do not have any affection towards the forum and they will ruin the forum by allowing spam.
And another thing is we will be favoring cheaters if someone from the forum doesn't take the control.

Take the job and save the forum.

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[AdolfinWolf]

Take the job and save the forum.

I don't know, but this sounds ironic on so many levels.

[BitcoinSupremo]

Take the job and save the forum.

I don't know, but this sounds ironic on so many levels.

Extremely ironic I would say. I am totally against cheating bounty campaigns and I personally never did that even when I had more than one account (now have only this one active), but the managers here ABSOLUTELY ,TOTALLY do not give a shit who is in, they accept broken English members just because they have been given positive trust from DT and they opt to remove even good members who speak a decent English but they have negative trust.

This issue will never end, it is easier that mods ban people who do spam the forum rather than a person deciding who is in and who is out.

[suchmoon]

Extremely ironic

https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/

Users with negative feedback from defaulttrust members are no longer permitted on the campaign. If you sign up you will be removed.

[bones261]

     Well, I certainly hope that yobit is going to be offering a premium wage for being the gatekeeper to their shitshow. It's going to be a great deal of work sifting through posts and finding spammers. Especially, when the campaign manager has no control over who joins in. I think that the last time yobit had this campaign, hilariousandco, had the unpleasant task. (At least he was acting in that capacity for the brief time that I was on the yobit signature campaign, years ago.) I'm all for the OP taking this job since letting this sig campaign keep going on auto-pilot is quite an unpalatable option.

[LTU_btc]

Yahoo, please take this job because this campaign urgently need manager. It's terrible to see what's happening on Bitcointalk in these days when campaign was relaunched. There are so many spammers wake up after long period of inactivity who joined this campaign and making 20 shiptosts/day. 20 posts max limit, no campaign manager, no rules, it's terrible combination. With unlimited number of participants situation on Bitcointalk can be out of control. Now we can see Yobit spammers shitposting almost everywhere. And I hate to be asociated with these spammers. Even Merit and trust systems can't help now, it's enough to have high ranked account and voilà, you are in campaign.
And I think 20 posts per day limit isn't a problem if campaign have manager who is doing his job properly. Nobody is forcing you to make so many posts, for example I rarely make more than 5-6 posts per day.

[r_victory]

I prefer to have a manager, nothing is foolproof, but it is impossible to know without trying, if you accept, it will be better, for being a member of the forum that many trust.

I don't participate in pump schemes or other illegal activity, either, I don't want to feel like a criminal for participating in this campaign (this is how I have seen who participates to be treated indirectly), the complaints are many, of many exchanges, if it is proved that the Yobit is fraudulent, I said proved, I will be the first to leave the campaign. Since the platform is still active, for me there is nothing proven...

Anyway, in my opinion you must accept, everyone knows your integrity here and the negativity of the exchange will not be able to affect you ...

[FaucetKING]

In my humble opinion, I think that yahoo is the best fit for this compaign. As the OP mentioned, he will have the access to the accepted and the refused members which will essentially reduce and remove the red-tagged members and will only let trusted members join the compaign. Yahoo is already famous and I will personally say that having a moderator taking care of the compaign is a must because things will get better in terms of making the compaign clear, having a spreadsheet and an organised environment that could make the compaign more trustful. So, I think that the OP is the best fit for this job and I think that hiring a moderator is a must, go for it yahoo!

[tbct_mt2]

Yahoo can not do anything with it, in my perspective. The point is at the beginning, Yobit don't care about their needs to find a manager, just manager, not high quality manager.
They should not blame that they don't consider at hiring manager at the start, or they did not have experience with running campaign.
I am not sure, but maybe they shown intention to hire Yahoo or if accepted, deal made, it just one of the fake signals that they don't want to spam the forum. Let's see, what will happen if Mr Yahoo can only manage official participants via application form, spreadsheet, but behind the scene, Yobit actually accept more hidden participants by themselves, and Yahoo won't have information about those supporters. Yahoo, as manager of Yobit campaign can reject to pay for shit posts, but he can not prevent other users (who don't apply via Yahoo's application form) to wear signature, spam and get payments from Yobit.
I even doubt that they temporarily accepted even Member rank. Some guys at Member rank worn Yobit signature and spammed recent days. Maybe they simply tried to cheat the campaign, but who knows if Yobit actually accepted that rank.

Yahoo, please take this job because this campaign urgently need manager.

I don't know where Yobit have such huge funds (if they really pay for their supporters) to run the campaign. If the fund come from hard works, they won't do this, in my perspective. Running campaign with totally shit posts that even don't catch intention of forum members to read it, so will they really spend their time to click on hyperlinks in signatures or visit Yobit site, I doubt that they won't.

20 posts max limit, no campaign manager, no rules, it's terrible combination. With unlimited number of participants situation on Bitcointalk can be out of control. Now we can see Yobit spammers shitposting almost everywhere.

Something should be required to participate, like this, only 5 merits required from posts made in last 4 months, I don't think it is an unreachable requirement.

*You must have EARNED a minimum of 5 Merit in the last 120 days to participate in this Campaign.

[shasan]

I don't know where Yobit have such huge funds

Yobit is not a small exchange site and they are not new. They are earning a huge amount from their site. And for this campaign especially for the negative campaign, they will earn many more. They will earn more from negative campaign instead of their paid campaign (signature campaign).

[Maestro75]

I would honestly suggest you to rather reduce the number of accepted posts per day,

This will also reduce the number of posters as many people are joining because of the privilege to post more since the pay is very poor. More post means more money.

[shasan]

I would honestly suggest you to rather reduce the number of accepted posts per day,

This will also reduce the number of posters as many people are joining because of the privilege to post more since the pay is very poor. More post means more money.

It is right that "the more you post the more you earn; until you reach your limit" But if they decrease post limit and increase pay per post then both (participant and yobit) will get the benefit.

[TheNewAnon135246]

I doubt a campaign of this size is even manageable. Pajeets are coming.....

[LoyceV]

So the question here is pass on the offer or would everyone rather see a manager attached to the campaign?

It's a double-edged sword: we're better off without the spam, but helping them hire higher quality posters helps them to get better quality advertising and reduce the (already very slim) risk of their campaign getting banned by theymos.

Since you're posting my quote: I've seen several users tagged for promoting a scam in their signature. I've only done that once (here; feel free to add more) and won't do it for campaign participants, but all it takes nowadays is one out of many DTs to ruin somene's reputation.

I doubt a campaign of this size is even manageable. Pajeets are coming.....

The first step would be to set a Merit requirement: if someone haven't earned at least 10 Merit in over a year, he has no business in any campaign. If someone bought 10 Merit for a bad post, that easily disqualifies him too. YoBit could for instance use my list of earned Merit to reject anyone who doesn't meet a certain minimum.

[TheNewAnon135246]

I doubt a campaign of this size is even manageable. Pajeets are coming.....

The first step would be to set a Merit requirement: if someone haven't earned at least 10 Merit in over a year, he has no business in any campaign. If someone bought 10 Merit for a bad post, that easily disqualifies him too. YoBit could for instance use my list of earned Merit to reject anyone who doesn't meet a certain minimum.

That might help a bit but we've already seen plenty of merit networks helping accounts to rank up/receive more merit.

[Carlsen]

The Yobit campaign needs a manager!
Reopening the campaign only with lower rates would mean that in the end everything will turn out to be the same as we have seen before.

I have been a member in this campaign since I started here on this forum, and it did not go well on multiple sides.
The number of one unconstructive one liners was really enormous!
Written posts were not counted because we had flaws in the bot that was intended to overview the posts.
And after a while, payments were made maybe twice a year.

These would be the main problems you would have to deal with if you decide to accept managing this campaign.
I would be glad if you do.

[Tim1996]

Money is not everything for the reputed member like you. I feel that you should not affilate yourself with the exchange who has scammed 1000+ ethereum of users. I happen to read one thread in Scam Accusation and reading that i say OMG to myself how can one live and sleep scamming 1000 plus ethereums.

[gentlemand]

I would feel slightly blackmailed by the whole thing.

They're basically saying dear hard working manager with a hard-won rep, associate with us no matter what your feelings are about us or we turn your workplace into a cesspit. Those aren't terms I'd feel very turned on by.

If I were running this forum I'd assign a mod for a few weeks specifically to thrash the participants into submission. It's a twat magnet and no matter how many of them are moaning about that label, the evidence is everywhere for now. At least it rounds them up into a neat pool for culling.

[posi]

As alot said earlier either Yahoo accept Yobit offer or not they will the campaign because the forum moderators are not against it and the previous allegations which were raised about exchange are not been follow up by the accusers with that we can't be sure if the situations are not settle. Besides, I believed people deserve to be giving a second opportunity but what I will advice Yahoo to do is to reduce the daily paid posts to 10-17 which I think should be Ok for participants who are not spamming or greed.

[Findingnemo]

Most of the people advice to reduce the total paid post per day because most of the people going to spam if they are getting more paid posts per day but why this is only happening with yobit where max paid post is 20 only when we compare that number with stake it is nothing.They are paying upto 0.1BTC per week for high rank members for that they have to make 1000 posts in week or 142 posts per day.