Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign?

[akamit]

No one is going to tag you for joining Yobit sig. campaign I believe.
I know this guy LTU_btc, who is using Yobit signature for a long time and not a single DT member tagged him yet.

Has he actually been on the campaign all this time though? I thought it shut down long ago and there's been quite a few inactive and barely active users that still seem to bare yobit's signature, but I just assumed they just never removed them or never joined another campaign. Has it been ticking over all this time? There were very few people left on that campaign from what I remember.

I really haven't thought about the payment thing before writing LTU_btc's name, honestly.
If they are under a campaign then they are probably getting paid, maybe for this reason I haven't given a thought on this.

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[xLays]

Thymos disabled YoBit signature design but look I still wear Yobit signature design.   

[john2231]

Thymos disabled YoBit signature design but look I still wear Yobit signature design.    

Ow weird report it now to theymos tell him to remove it or you are lucky to stay wearing yobit.

Maybe if someone reported that you are spamming you will be remove if not then you are lucky to stay wearing it according to his post here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133809.msg50727083#msg50727083

Edit: lol try to click your yobit signature.  Lets see

[PrimeNumber7]

Thymos disabled YoBit signature design but look I still wear Yobit signature design.    

Ow weird report it now to theymos tell him to remove it or you are lucky to stay wearing yobit.

The specific prohibition of signatures was:

Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

If you look at the BB Code of his signature, he has a link to a picture that says "fuck you idiot"

I am a supporter of free markets and freedom of speech, but I am glad the trash associated with all the YoBit advertising campaign has been stopped. YoBit management did a poor job of rolling out their advertising.

[coupable]

Yesterday, i received a mail from Yobit exchange inviting me to join their btt signature campaign again. I wasn't really interested because i left that campaign after the sig bans applied by admin for Yobit spammers (i didn't get banned at that time because my posts didn't get reported, as am always trying not to be a troller) but today i am just about to discover some funny news, IMO;
First, the campaign is moderated by the reputed Yahoo and we can now see statistics about the users (with the help of other members) and take more garantees that the csmpaign is smoothly running. What amazed me while reading the four pages thread is that no one talked about Yobit as a scam project creating methods to deceive users (this is what everybody says when the campaign run last April) and you can check my trust where three users accused me to promote a scamy project (yobit) despite that the problem was "encouaging dpam" and enrolling campaign without a manager.
Second, is how/why yobit exchange use a crypto forum (bitcointalk) to promote for another crypto forum (cryptotalk) !!! Then what!? Using the promoted forum to promote the yobit exchange !? Isn't a mess

I don't know if i have to take some cautions before joining the camaign again as my profile account is more valuable for me than moneyso i don't want to receive more bad trusts or being banned or kicked out from it as a big looser. If you have some advices, please don't hesitate to say it.

[unibitcoinist]

Interesting, they never say it's a scam shitty scam. No one, neither the heck marlboroza.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

If you have some advices, please don't hesitate to say it.

I did a post sometime ago titled; {Facts} Disadvantage of promoting signature campaigns that encourages spamming. I recommend you go through the thread then if you're comfortable participating in the campaign genuinely without causing any nuisance then go ahead. Remember the campaign doesn't mandate you meet maximum post requirement daily therefore if you participating in the campaign won't turn you into a spammer then go ahead. The issue is that most users use this opportunity to spam the forum while getting paid but if you can post that much or even more amount of posts daily and they still turn out to be quality or atleast reasonable posts then i don't see an issue with that. We have members capable of making 20+ posts daily and still maintaining their quality standards. If you're one of them, then wearing any signature is a privilege, do what suits you.

The issue with posting much is it deprived you of point No.6 on the thread although If you can balance both posting and learning simultaneously then you're good. The campaign has a high quality manager which will be bringing in some discipline to the campaign. The issue with most high maximum post paying campaign is that, they're poorly managed which result to participates spamming and still getting paid but @Yahoo's involvement in this campaign changes everything.

[FIFA worldcup]

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I don't really know what to do.
I would appreciate all the honest, serious opinions.

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Why are you hesitating? If you are not comfortable with promoting it then leave it.

I don't see any point to create a topic and continue discussing about it which are already has discussed in some other topics including in the Meta section and Service section. If I am not wrong then there is already another topic in the Reputation section too.

You want my suggestion?
1. Remove the signature,
2. Decide what do you want to do first

If you are not comfortable to wear it. Move on.
If you see no problem then wear it and do the things you do in the forum

Cheers :-D

I will just add my two cents here which may further help OP and others to decide how to go about it.

1- Yobit exchange contains a lot of pump dump shit coins but you will never find yobit holding your payments or withdrawals issues. So it is not a scam in a way.

2- Even if Yobit is semi-scam exchange, you people are not promoting Yobit. Are you ?  You are promoting a cryptotalk forum and there is no harm in it.
(It has not been proven yet that the forum belongs to Yobit)

3- As long as you do not spam or violates the rules, no one will tag you. But keep in mind that this campaign is monitored by a very talented manager, so you can't live long if your intent is to spam.

[PrimeNumber7]

I asked the below question in their signature campaign thread

These pay rates are very appealing. Has Yobit resolved their flag about possibly running a pump and dump scheme? Asking because I believe I will be a senior member soon, and may consider participating.

I haven’t received an answer yet.

They are paying very well, but are very shady. I would advise against advertising for anything associated with YoBit.

[khaled0111]

I asked the below question in their signature campaign thread

These pay rates are very appealing. Has Yobit resolved their flag about possibly running a pump and dump scheme? Asking because I believe I will be a senior member soon, and may consider participating.

I haven’t received an answer yet.

They are paying very well, but are very shady. I would advise against advertising for anything associated with YoBit.

@OP, if you are convinced that they are legit and deserve to be promoted and you are not going to spam the forum or post extra posts just to get few bucks then you can join their signature campaign. It is easy as that.

Regarding the negative feedbacks you received, I think they had to talk with you and explain why you should leave the campaign before tagging your account.

I asked the below question in their signature campaign thread

These pay rates are very appealing. Has Yobit resolved their flag about possibly running a pump and dump scheme? Asking because I believe I will be a senior member soon, and may consider participating.

I haven’t received an answer yet.

Do you really expect to receive an answer for your question?! 

[PrimeNumber7]

I asked the below question in their signature campaign thread

These pay rates are very appealing. Has Yobit resolved their flag about possibly running a pump and dump scheme? Asking because I believe I will be a senior member soon, and may consider participating.

I haven’t received an answer yet.

Do you really expect to receive an answer for your question?! 

I would hope so. The person running the signature campaign seems to have a decent amount of positive rep, and I would assume he would care about the answer to this question before associating himself with a company. I would also think YoBit themsleves would want this addressed to protect their own brand and reputation.

[o_e_l_e_o]

The person running the signature campaign seems to have a decent amount of positive rep, and I would assume he would care about the answer to this question before associating himself with a company. I would also think YoBit themsleves would want this addressed to protect their own brand and reputation.

If you are referring to yahoo, he has made it quite clear that he is not running the campaign, choosing participants, organising payments, and so forth. He simply has the power to ban spammers from the campaign:

I am not accepting participants for this campaign. Everything is done on the yobit website, just follow the instructions above. I will however be able to ban anyone I feel is spamming, anyone with justified negative trust, or anyone breaking any of the forums rules as far as campaigns go.

Basically I am a quality checker. Yobit is still maintaining payments and all that via the website. If anyone has any questions feel free to pm me or post them in here.

In terms of YoBit protecting their reputation, I think it's been pretty clear from the get-go that they neither have a reputation nor care about building one. They were quite happy to spam the forum at length with their first campaign, despite all the negativity it caused before they were banned, and they were quite happy to return with essentially the exact same campaign a second time. Their modus operandi is to spam their banner in as many places as possible to attract naive newbies, since no one who has been around for any length of time is going to touch them.

[coupable]

As i assumed before, i used Yobit for small trades but never involved in shitty tokens investment, as i would also agree that any scam project can get his token listed for trade in Yobit but don't know if any trouble may occur during withdraws/deposits processes i didn't face any, since 2017) .
Last April when i joined the Yobit campaign, i opened a support ticket to ask if they are willing to prepare a set of rules for the campaign or hiring someone to do it but i didn't receive a response. And as o.e.l.e.o said, they seems not interested to build a perfect reputation.

I have just joined the campaign again and this is my first post  wearing the cryptotalk signature; i will watch if it will be counted before continue posting.

Thank you all for responding.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

@OP, if you are convinced that they are legit and deserve to be promoted and you are not going to spam the forum or post extra posts just to get few bucks then you can join their signature campaign. It is easy as that.

I tend to agree with what you wrote.  There's nothing wrong with being in a sig campaign if you're a good poster--unfortunately the Yobit campaign has historically recruited the dregs of the forum (with some exceptions, of course). 

I would also argue that it's not only important that the participant be comfortable promoting Yobit, but also that the community doesn't think they're a scam exchange.  The risk is that the campaigner might get tagged for being in the campaign.  There was a lot of discussion about that the last time around.  Personally, I don't think they're truly scammers.  They just have abysmal customer service and awful business practices to boot.  But they do provide a useful service to a lot of people, and I know there are many satisfied customers--me among them, because I've used them a lot in the past for small trades.

I have just joined the campaign again and this is my first post  wearing the cryptotalk signature; i will watch if it will be counted before continue posting.

Good luck, and I would advise you to make above-average quality posts.  Last time a bunch of members got temp banned if they had reports made against them which were marked as good.  You don't want to chance that happening again.

[yazher]

There was one problem before and that's the lack to hire a repetative manager that leads the last campaign in chaos. everyone including negative members can wreck havock on the forum.

Thankfully they hire the right manager to handle the job. that's why, I join their campaign too because when Yahoo is the Captain all of the shit posters will not get on board.

It is nice to join their campaign without a fear on getting tag by the Mod.

[elda34b]

It is nice to join their campaign without a fear on getting tag by the Mod.

Moderators never tag a user just because they join a signature campaign though.

[johhnyUA]

I don't see any point to create a topic and continue discussing about it which are already has discussed in some other topics including in the Meta section and Service section.

But i see. To write post for signature campaign without beign marked as a spammer  
Boards like "reputation", "Meta", "Bitcoin discussion" and other are pretty convenient to this  

Look, there only few users without signature that post in that thread. OP ,for example, has written already 5 post. A little more posts, or another such topic and ta-da - 20 messages  

Also, such topics creates ecosystem where all participants have their profit. OP get his post, you get yours, and i get one mine. Real non zero sum game. 

[coupable]

OP ,for example, has written already 5 post. A little more posts, or another such topic and ta-da - 20 messages  

Also, such topics creates ecosystem where all participants have their profit. OP get his post, you get yours, and i get one mine. Real non zero sum game.  

By checking your trust page, i can understand your approach. Greed ! And i don't think your technique would succeed under Yahoo's management. Even you create high quality posts, it will be easy to catch for a professional quality checker.
What you have just described is what others fights against, and they call it "Spam behaviors". I created this topic last April to discuss about leaving the Yobit campaign (Please re-read OP) after i joined it for one or two days. I wasn't intended to make more posts by creating this topic and as i mentioned before am not an English native speaker and not that active in the forum as you can note by checking my post history since i recovered my accout, so i can just create 4 to 5 posts daily at max.

I wish i could thank you for your honest reply, but Indeed i didn't really like how you see things, so i will lock this thread again so you can't get the chance to make another post.  update:  late to do.

[johhnyUA]

By checking your trust page, i can understand your approach

Specify pls. One feedback from famous russian troll who calls that Craig Wrigth is real Satoshi (KTChampion), also there few feedback from russian curse - user korner who famous because he one time created around 200 flags in one night and spam Archive thread (and now, he with his alts which left those feedbacks are banned)

Obvious, that those feedbacks is inaccurate at all. What also do you see in my trust page, ah?

Greed ! And i don't think your technique would succeed under Yahoo's management. Even you create high quality posts, it will be easy to catch for a professional quality checker.

Dude, I have earned 500 merits mostly (except Vadi's merits) for my technical and helpful posts (Coding, Ideas, Bitcoin Discussion, Beginners and Help, Wall observer in russian local).

While you have only 19 merits.

What you have just described is what others fights against

Others doing the same, with their Chipmixer, Wolfbet and other signatures. Those, who have pride and honesty understand it, just don't talk about it. Of course, some people really think that their posts in meta or reputation is valuable more than others.

I created this topic last April to discuss about leaving the Yobit campaign (Please re-read OP) after i joined it for one or two days.

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Really, my bad. I don't look into date of creation
But, anyway, it was not me who wrote here first  

I wish i could thank you for your honest reply, but Indeed i didn't really like how you see things, so i will lock this thread again so you can't get the chance to make another post.

It's normal. I've showed my view you're free to accept it or do not.
You also forgot to lock thread

[PrimeNumber7]

The person running the signature campaign seems to have a decent amount of positive rep, and I would assume he would care about the answer to this question before associating himself with a company. I would also think YoBit themsleves would want this addressed to protect their own brand and reputation.

If you are referring to yahoo, he has made it quite clear that he is not running the campaign, choosing participants, organising payments, and so forth. He simply has the power to ban spammers from the campaign:

Yes, I am referring to yahoo62278. I think you are arguing semantics, if he has the power to remove someone from the campaign, he has the defacto ability to accept someone because he could remove someone immediately who he does not want to accept. I have also noticed that he does not handle payments on most signature campaigns he runs, the payments are rather handled, and credited on the website platform of the company that is paying for the advertising.

Nevertheless, he is associating his reputation with YoBit, which is not beneficial to him. YoBit has a history of conducting business unethically, and anyone helping YoBit run its business, including helping with a signature campaign is furthering these unethical business practices, even if not directly participating in the unethical behavior personally.