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April 30, 2019, 04:29:24 AM
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There's some people who give free TA on twitter some got paid groups but still people want to pay for TA. MAYBE it also depends the person who run the group. Just need to find some genuine groups. I have join 1 group but TA is free.

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April 30, 2019, 05:40:33 AM
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There's some people who give free TA on twitter some got paid groups but still people want to pay for TA. MAYBE it also depends the person who run the group. Just need to find some genuine groups. I have join 1 group but TA is free.
People who are trap in this trick are obviously out of knowledge and information of what kind of program they have penetrated. The possible consequences may lead you to act anxious that may also a way of your loses. And to break this kind of trick, we have to be cautious and wise on deliberating a consistent output with trading.
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April 30, 2019, 05:51:43 AM
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There's some people who give free TA on twitter some got paid groups but still people want to pay for TA. MAYBE it also depends the person who run the group. Just need to find some genuine groups. I have join 1 group but TA is free.
People who are trap in this trick are obviously out of knowledge and information of what kind of program they have penetrated. The possible consequences may lead you to act anxious that may also a way of your loses. And to break this kind of trick, we have to be cautious and wise on deliberating a consistent output with trading.
If they are not good with TA and they want to profit, of course they will pay for it.
For me, this is not good for your long term journey in trading, you cannot rely with these paid service all your life as a trader as they could also gone wrong sometimes, you know, when there's money involve lots of things could happen.

If you learn on your own, you can improve your strategy and you will be more fulfilled as a trader.

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April 30, 2019, 11:37:32 AM
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There's some people who give free TA on twitter some got paid groups but still people want to pay for TA. MAYBE it also depends the person who run the group. Just need to find some genuine groups. I have join 1 group but TA is free.
If someone is providing valuable service for free then what benefits they can make from it?

Do you think people want to help others by giving free TA?

Nop,they are doing it to manipulate the prices.

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April 30, 2019, 12:05:11 PM
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"Please be careful with traders who run private groups, do phone consultations, and sell courses.

Most successful traders are too busy trading, they don't have time to teach.

It would be a distraction."


Saw this tweet just now.

Worth to share to those trading newbies who wants to rely on paid advisors.

Will not go deeper. Hope you got the picture.

(P.S. Credits goes to @BTC_M****. Decided not share the source link as I don't want to promote his Twitter account as owner's other tweets might influence newbies perspectives. But it's quiet easy to search.)


This reminds of people who claim theirselves as guru and  says that they sell millions with their business online and will offer you exclusive groups and masterclass for a ridiculous amount of cash. So don't be deceived guys because it's like you are getting hit with two bad luck when you take their offers which is you lose first when you paid them then you lose another time when you follow them.
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April 30, 2019, 12:06:25 PM
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Most of them are looking for ways to cheat, we make payments and then they disappear and we don't get any knowledge. I would rather meet face to face for a mentor.

That happens with some of my friends. They don't research the groups, and they never try to learn about the analysis, so they use the telegram groups channel to get the sign. I always warn them, but they never listen to me, so I let them decide to continue or stop right away before it's too late to them.
This is the problem we get to see in the aspect of crypto investment too, no matter the warning you give to some people, they will never believe you, and some will even think that you also do not want them to prosper in what you are doing. So, the best would be for one to leave them for experience to teach them he lesson that they need.

From the experience, they will learn to always listen to good advises from people that does not want them to make mistake. If we even want mentors, we have many of them locally around us and we don’t have to look for a mentor online before getting the tips or strategy we want.
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April 30, 2019, 07:00:10 PM
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Most of them are looking for ways to cheat, we make payments and then they disappear and we don't get any knowledge. I would rather meet face to face for a mentor.

That happens with some of my friends. They don't research the groups, and they never try to learn about the analysis, so they use the telegram groups channel to get the sign. I always warn them, but they never listen to me, so I let them decide to continue or stop right away before it's too late to them.
This is the problem we get to see in the aspect of crypto investment too, no matter the warning you give to some people, they will never believe you, and some will even think that you also do not want them to prosper in what you are doing. So, the best would be for one to leave them for experience to teach them he lesson that they need.

From the experience, they will learn to always listen to good advises from people that does not want them to make mistake. If we even want mentors, we have many of them locally around us and we don’t have to look for a mentor online before getting the tips or strategy we want.
This is why I'm already stopping on giving out advises or warning to people and just let them experience those things for them to learn up
because there are people who do have that kind of mentality where they are do stubborn where they do still proceed even they are already giving out some caution.
Just simply think that if those gurus and professionals are constantly making money on  trading they wont simply make any mentorship or whatsoever.

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April 30, 2019, 08:26:02 PM
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"Please be careful with traders who run private groups, do phone consultations, and sell courses.

Most successful traders are too busy trading, they don't have time to teach.

It would be a distraction."


Saw this tweet just now.

Worth to share to those trading newbies who wants to rely on paid advisors.

Will not go deeper. Hope you got the picture.
I never really had trust for those kind of stuffs, to me they are not trustworthy . I don’t think anyone who is really a good trader would have such a time to he around teaching people ,when he can just use that knowledge he has to trade with more money and make a lot of profits from his trades daily. I see a lot of people that does that, but I usually tell them do so at their own risk, I don’t have interests in it. And based on what I’ve known so far , none of those stuffs are really worth it, people who have been part of it never got to benefit from it .it’s worthless.
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April 30, 2019, 08:52:28 PM
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A lot of people who are claiming expert traders are offering their services for a percentage of their income or guidance. The point is, if you are a trader and earning by your self, you would not even bother or waste your time for others to earn, you will focus more on your trade. Do not be fooled by this kind of traders. Learn trading by your self.

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April 30, 2019, 11:40:03 PM
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A lot of people who are claiming expert traders are offering their services for a percentage of their income or guidance. The point is, if you are a trader and earning by your self, you would not even bother or waste your time for others to earn, you will focus more on your trade. Do not be fooled by this kind of traders. Learn trading by your self.
Right. Nobody wants to waste time in trading and so traders nowadays focus  on their own time to trade to develop more skills to make more profits. So i don't think that those who offer their services are real good traders. Maybe they just want to get your money first after you have been deceived by them. So learn to trade by your own trusting your own strategies and skills.

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May 01, 2019, 01:52:03 AM
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There's some people who give free TA on twitter some got paid groups but still people want to pay for TA. MAYBE it also depends the person who run the group. Just need to find some genuine groups. I have join 1 group but TA is free.
If someone is providing valuable service for free then what benefits they can make from it?

Do you think people want to help others by giving free TA?

Nop,they are doing it to manipulate the prices.
Right, just remember there is no freelunch my friends. if you hear the free advice and TA someone gave, in fact he didn't give it for
free, he tried to drive prices on the market according to their interests and their desires..
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May 01, 2019, 02:03:56 AM
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Most of them are looking for ways to cheat, we make payments and then they disappear and we don't get any knowledge.
Oh, that's sad, you paid someone online just to teach you how to trade? then the worst part, they disappear. That's really disappointing, if you are planning to pay someone just to teach you how to trade, much better you subscribe on some course online, or much better buy some e-books or books then you learn by yourself.

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May 01, 2019, 04:40:48 AM
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Most of them are looking for ways to cheat, we make payments and then they disappear and we don't get any knowledge.
Oh, that's sad, you paid someone online just to teach you how to trade? then the worst part, they disappear. That's really disappointing, if you are planning to pay someone just to teach you how to trade, much better you subscribe on some course online, or much better buy some e-books or books then you learn by yourself.
I've never think how this person trusted to the one that never been talk for long. There is no wrong to trust someone but not really that much especially when it deals with money not unless they offer to give them help before we pay.

We know how scammers work and we don't have lack of awareness in this forum. This may serves a lesson and learn especially for starters. We don't need to rush in learning crypto trading, better help ourself rather than seeking help from the anonymous person which they only wanting to scam us.
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May 01, 2019, 05:01:55 AM
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We know how scammers work and we don't have lack of awareness in this forum. This may serves a lesson and learn especially for starters. We don't need to rush in learning crypto trading, better help ourself rather than seeking help from the anonymous person which they only wanting to scam us.
That's right, this strategy is very prone to scammers. Fooling noobs in trading that want to earn quick money without searching and studying it well. As of now, scammers make smartest than before, they know the weakness that newbie in trading had. We are lucky here in the forum that we already aware of that kind of modus from others that rely on hype or other services that related in trading which is having bad intention.

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May 01, 2019, 06:21:52 AM
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"Please be careful with traders who run private groups, do phone consultations, and sell courses.

Most successful traders are too busy trading, they don't have time to teach.

It would be a distraction."


Saw this tweet just now.

Worth to share to those trading newbies who wants to rely on paid advisors.

Will not go deeper. Hope you got the picture.

(P.S. Credits goes to @BTC_M****. Decided not share the source link as I don't want to promote his Twitter account as owner's other tweets might influence newbies perspectives. But it's quiet easy to search.)

That may be true, but I would say not entirely. Although it is true that to be a successful trader one has to really look at the market really closely and be in it almost all the time to see the changes that trends that are happening. However, despite that fact, there are some people who,  by their characters, are good and want to help those who needs an extra push whether it be coaching, knowledge or whatever it is they need to become successful. I mean, it's always a feel good situation to help someone and see them succeed. Although this market is as competitive as one can get, there are still some good people out there who are willing to impart their knowledge because if more and more people would succeed, it would surely affect the market in its entirety on a positive note.
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May 01, 2019, 10:17:26 AM
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"Please be careful with traders who run private groups, do phone consultations, and sell courses.

Most successful traders are too busy trading, they don't have time to teach.

It would be a distraction."


Saw this tweet just now.

Worth to share to those trading newbies who wants to rely on paid advisors.

Will not go deeper. Hope you got the picture.

(P.S. Credits goes to @BTC_M****. Decided not share the source link as I don't want to promote his Twitter account as owner's other tweets might influence newbies perspectives. But it's quiet easy to search.)

That may be true, but I would say not entirely. Although it is true that to be a successful trader one has to really look at the market really closely and be in it almost all the time to see the changes that trends that are happening. However, despite that fact, there are some people who,  by their characters, are good and want to help those who needs an extra push whether it be coaching, knowledge or whatever it is they need to become successful. I mean, it's always a feel good situation to help someone and see them succeed. Although this market is as competitive as one can get, there are still some good people out there who are willing to impart their knowledge because if more and more people would succeed, it would surely affect the market in its entirety on a positive note.
Traders who run private groups are usually the ones behind pump and dump schemes. I don`t think that traders are busy all the time, one of the good sides of being trader is that you can do more things on computer
while you trade, why would be hard for some trader to be active on social network or to give tips here and there.
What really is pain in the ass is that every trade is risky, nothing is 100% sure. When someone gives a tip and that doesnt pass people get nervous and start attacking, I think this is the main reason why some successful traders dont wish to give tips. They handle their wins and loses, why would they want to be someones target cause one bad trade?



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May 01, 2019, 02:23:08 PM
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"Please be careful with traders who run private groups, do phone consultations, and sell courses.

Most successful traders are too busy trading, they don't have time to teach.

It would be a distraction."


Saw this tweet just now.

Worth to share to those trading newbies who wants to rely on paid advisors.

Will not go deeper. Hope you got the picture.

(P.S. Credits goes to @BTC_M****. Decided not share the source link as I don't want to promote his Twitter account as owner's other tweets might influence newbies perspectives. But it's quiet easy to search.)
This is definitely true because there is no logic if a trader who is successful is actually not trading but teaching others how to trade.
If the trader is so successful why would he reveal his stats and strategies because if he would do so that would just hinder the market movements and all his strategies would be of no use.
So basically there is no logic if a successful trader is teaching rather than trading himself. It's definitely a scam.

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May 01, 2019, 09:40:29 PM
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"Please be careful with traders who run private groups, do phone consultations, and sell courses.

Most successful traders are too busy trading, they don't have time to teach.

It would be a distraction."


That may be true, but I would say not entirely. Although it is true that to be a successful trader one has to really look at the market really closely and be in it almost all the time to see the changes that trends that are happening. However, despite that fact, there are some people who,  by their characters, are good and want to help those who needs an extra push whether it be coaching, knowledge or whatever it is they need to become successful. I mean, it's always a feel good situation to help someone and see them succeed. Although this market is as competitive as one can get, there are still some good people out there who are willing to impart their knowledge because if more and more people would succeed, it would surely affect the market in its entirety on a positive note.

So you are fine with paid advices because they are helping?

Well we can say there are traders that wants some compensation in exchange of helping others since they worked for it but the whole quote just telling us that it's quiet rare to see a serious trader who will run and sell a service like that because they can earned more doing trades than offering that kind of service.

Bottom line, those paid groups are just consist of pure hypes and not actually running a serious course once you paid for it.

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May 01, 2019, 10:01:22 PM
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I don't see any logic in those words. I have examples of really successful traders who conduct training courses for beginners. If he has the knowledge, why not make an extra profit on it.

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May 01, 2019, 10:09:01 PM
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I don't see any logic in those words. I have examples of really successful traders who conduct training courses for beginners. If he has the knowledge, why not make an extra profit on it.

But if someone is advertising a way to you to make easy money, don't you ask yourself why he's making this information public rather than profiting on his strategy on his own? It's the same with these private Pump&Dump groups where you have to pay to get access. These are only looking for people to buy their bags.
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