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Great and insightful investigative write-up there. But after all said and done, Satoshi Nakamoto is still an enigma, a phantom and unless he decides to give himself up, I doubt if anyone or group of people can crack his ID blackout. I, for one, do hope that his identity remains hidden...it'll be one of the unsolved secrets of our time.
Yes satoshi nakamoto identity is still unanimous and no one can know who he is. And there's is no clue who is satoshi nakamoto and where he come from and what his nationality. Still unknown many are assuming that he is satoshi nakamoto but only i know still not know who he is.
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November 14, 2019, 08:14:06 AM |
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Doubt that someone will find Satoshi, I already'm beginning to doubt that this at all one man.
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November 14, 2019, 03:38:38 PM |
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Great and insightful investigative write-up there. But after all said and done, Satoshi Nakamoto is still an enigma, a phantom and unless he decides to give himself up, I doubt if anyone or group of people can crack his ID blackout. I, for one, do hope that his identity remains hidden...it'll be one of the unsolved secrets of our time.
Yes satoshi nakamoto identity is still unanimous and no one can know who he is. And there's is no clue who is satoshi nakamoto and where he come from and what his nationality. Still unknown many are assuming that he is satoshi nakamoto but only i know still not know who he is. His identity was very private because there are some important things that he need to keep especially from the bitcoin he has to maintain his security from a person who have interest on his bitcoin.
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November 14, 2019, 03:41:00 PM |
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Doubt that someone will find Satoshi, I already'm beginning to doubt that this at all one man.
Doubt or not there always been a possibility that Satoshi is either a group of people or a single man. Finding this guy? Just like his own creation its anonymous and theres no way on identifying this guy which we had been doing all over the years and lots already claiming to be satoshi but all of them are fake ones. Lets hope that someday he would decide up to show himself to the cryptocommunity that he had built up.
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November 16, 2019, 01:48:28 PM |
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Doubt that someone will find Satoshi, I already'm beginning to doubt that this at all one man.
If you read our research you will see that we believe we found Satoshi. Contrary to a lot of the mis-information on the web, the majority of the evidence points to Bitcoin being developed by just one person. This does not mean Satoshi created all the underlying technology but pieced together the working solution himself. This was the genius. With hindsight it all seems obvious but the reality is that he solved the double spend problem which had challenged the brightest minds for over 20 years! The other reason it is just one person is that the best way to keep a secret is to be the only one in on it. The more people involved the greater the risk of knowledge leak. And in that case the weakest link in the group could become vulnerable especially given the vast amounts of money on the line. This was backed up by other intel sources during the detailed investigation. We left out a lot of information in the document for a variety of reasons but we'll publish some facts that you will not find anywhere else over time. For starters: Q: When was the search term 'Bitcoin' performed on a search engine / domain registrar around the years of Bitcoin formation? A: June 2006 from Denmark (location can be ignored due to VPNs/TOR etc). This was a full year before coding started in 2007, and two years before Bitcoin.org was registered. This suggests the name Bitcoin was not a 100% certainty and decided very close to the registration of domain as the draft white paper circulated was missing reference to Bitcoin too.
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November 16, 2019, 02:49:05 PM |
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In any case, any statements regarding who created Bitcoin and who is Satoshi Nakamoto in general is nothing more than an assumption. If at least someone provided some evidence that would not be subject to doubt, then from these data one could start from something and assume or predict something. But since in reality there is no real and truthful source that would not cause doubts, all the stories about the creator of Bitcoin will be just a myth. It can be assumed that a group of people worked on the blockchain and Bitcoin, and not just one person. Nobody can refute this either.
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November 21, 2019, 09:02:23 PM |
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Thanks for solving the Satoshi Nakamoto problem seen in the crypto space but how will this information help with the adoption of Bitcoin into the mainstream of the financial ecosystem. The identity of Satoshi Nakamoto is not really relevant to the crypto ecosystem and its not gonna bring any improvement into the crypto space. I don't really get it when people waste time trying to find the identity of Satoshi..
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November 24, 2019, 10:42:03 AM |
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Thanks for solving the Satoshi Nakamoto problem seen in the crypto space but how will this information help with the adoption of Bitcoin into the mainstream of the financial ecosystem.
Thank you for asking this question. This is one of the key reasons for our original analysis. Our findings and evaluation of the data lead to a different conclusion to most of the published information to date. There is strong evidence that Satoshi had multiple Bitcoin code repositories with prototype development and research that never saw the light of day. This most likely includes solutioning for decentralised scaling which is the main issue most of todays cryptocurrencies fail to solve. Satoshi not only openly mentioned VISA processing limits back in 2009, but stating Bitcoin could scale beyond easily. The misconception is that most people interpreted this as the code that had been released publicly. His confidence was most likely related to his prototype code that was grid tested for scalability offline. It is unknown why the offline code repository and research was never shared wider but finding it would definitely help the adoption of Bitcoin into the mainstream. So our goals are perfectly in sync with the wider crypto community. What proof of offline development exists? - The version of Bitcoin that Satoshi mined the genesis block and his coins was different to the public release (based on chain archaeology and environment Satoshi had access to). - The original code base included marketplace and poker code. This points to wider functional development that was never made public. He also indirectly mentioned Bitcoin running offline prior to release. - Satoshi clearly states Bitcoin can scale beyond VISA processing capability several times. This means he solutioned and tested some prototype to have such confidence. The main reason crypto has shifted from whitepaper eCash towards store of value goes back to the fundamental issue of decentralized scalability. Finding the unpublished code and research will help answer and resolve everything.
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January 04, 2020, 09:20:20 PM |
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Are you a Bitcoin and Satoshi expert too? Could you recognise un-published writings by Satoshi?
If so please PM as we have some further developments that could do with some extra set of eyes!
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It's very interesting to see this research and what you underwent to go through this remarkable discovery. I do think though that I like the mystery behind Satoshi's anonymity and it takes it for a great story to tell our kids and grandkids as the years go by, that we were all involved in this mysterious event called the birth of Bitcoin, or Genesis as it were. If Satoshi wants to remain anonymous and not found, I think it's best to keep it that way, in respect of his desire to remain anonymous, but if ever he was to go public, then your findings would be a great testament to that.
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January 05, 2020, 06:59:56 AM |
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One thing for sure, before bitcoin is implemented, people behind it surely does plan it very well. But even if we don't know Satoshi, I think it is the best for us not to know him at all, they created bitcoin for the world and now, since it is open source, everybody could have a contribution and it will work without him. As long as we continue to believe on it, we don't need to see him for us to benefit. And to avoid misleading people claiming they are satoshi in their own ways.
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January 08, 2020, 10:30:30 PM |
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It's very interesting to see this research and what you underwent to go through this remarkable discovery. I do think though that I like the mystery behind Satoshi's anonymity and it takes it for a great story to tell our kids and grandkids as the years go by, that we were all involved in this mysterious event called the birth of Bitcoin, or Genesis as it were. If Satoshi wants to remain anonymous and not found, I think it's best to keep it that way, in respect of his desire to remain anonymous, but if ever he was to go public, then your findings would be a great testament to that.
This is an interesting post and totally agree that there is no need for the wider public to know the identity; and this is the main reason why we did not reveal the ultimate person we found. Since publication we have been approached by multiple parties that offered monetary offers for the info which we turned down. However there is one part that we disagree with, which includes a lot of whats posted publicly - where people state that it does not matter. Once the pieces were put together it becomes clear that a big part of the crypto-sphere do not want Satoshi/Satoshi knowledge to be found for selfish monetary reasons. This is the main reason for the crypto civil-war of the last 5 years. Not only do we think we have found Satoshi, but the place Satoshi did his development, research and mining using an organisations PCs (surprisingly most wont believe Satoshi was not rich and only owned an average spec PC himself, but had access to resources!). So we have come up with a 2020 manifesto to take crypto to the next level; as its clear no-one received Satoshis full codebase, research and notes when (including dev code for scalability and other info)!. This will only help end the Crypto civil-war and complete the original whitepaper. This will be our contribution. #1. Discover the real Satoshi Nakamoto ✅ #2. Find location of mining computer(s) ✅ #3. Contract with source organisation(s) #4. Restore IT backups from 2008/2009 #5. Recover unpublished code + research #6. Create new IP and scale beyond VISA
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I have a little discussion on time zones, as well as I am a programmer that time zones cannot be a benchmark to find where satoshi lives, we need information about how to live satoshi itself in relation to "finding sathosi when experts". This work can even make the way of life change from being nocturnal where it has a reverse habit in common people.
You do your best to find a key that leads to someone, but I don't think it's good if you keep doing it. Satoshi has decided to anonymize and in the code of ethics it is not good to do.
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I have a little discussion on time zones, as well as I am a programmer that time zones cannot be a benchmark to find where satoshi lives, we need information about how to live satoshi itself in relation to "finding sathosi when experts". This work can even make the way of life change from being nocturnal where it has a reverse habit in common people.
You do your best to find a key that leads to someone, but I don't think it's good if you keep doing it. Satoshi has decided to anonymize and in the code of ethics it is not good to do.
Nobody saw Satoshi's face even once and also nobody know even if he is only one or they are many. It is very difficult to find someone whom you dont really know. Its just like you are guessing a question but no clue. And also why are they really eager to find and to know Satoshi? Even if he is the founder of bitcoin it does not make any sense and also if he really wanted to show his face he will show it the public that's why he decided to stay hidden because there a lot of circumstances will likely to happen if he show up.
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In my opinion, Satoshi Nakamoto is the person who made a revolution in the world economy in 2009 by creating the Bitcoin. It doesn't matter if it is one person or a group of people. No doubt he is very important person as he has brought the biggest revolution in our lives. We are not aware of anything about him. If he does not want to reveal his identity, why to go for this matter. This is simply a useless finding as the appearance of him cannot affect Bitcoin or cryptocurrency in one way or the other. There are other important factors on which users should pay attention to like its promotion.
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I learned many things from this post and really appreciate you for sharing such an informative material,Satoshi Nakamot is really an idol for all who proved that if you believe in yourself and what d you want to do make difference just run-after it no matter you are alone but if you are committed and eager to reach there you will get it one day but never give up for temporary hurdles.
Now Bitcoin the creation of satoshi nakamoto created easiness for the individuals,corporate firms and investors that can use BTC for own purpose accordingly.
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It's very interesting to see this research and what you underwent to go through this remarkable discovery. I do think though that I like the mystery behind Satoshi's anonymity and it takes it for a great story to tell our kids and grandkids as the years go by, that we were all involved in this mysterious event called the birth of Bitcoin, or Genesis as it were. If Satoshi wants to remain anonymous and not found, I think it's best to keep it that way, in respect of his desire to remain anonymous, but if ever he was to go public, then your findings would be a great testament to that.
This is an interesting post and totally agree that there is no need for the wider public to know the identity; and this is the main reason why we did not reveal the ultimate person we found. Since publication we have been approached by multiple parties that offered monetary offers for the info which we turned down. However there is one part that we disagree with, which includes a lot of whats posted publicly - where people state that it does not matter. Once the pieces were put together it becomes clear that a big part of the crypto-sphere do not want Satoshi/Satoshi knowledge to be found for selfish monetary reasons. This is the main reason for the crypto civil-war of the last 5 years. Not only do we think we have found Satoshi, but the place Satoshi did his development, research and mining using an organisations PCs (surprisingly most wont believe Satoshi was not rich and only owned an average spec PC himself, but had access to resources!). So we have come up with a 2020 manifesto to take crypto to the next level; as its clear no-one received Satoshis full codebase, research and notes when (including dev code for scalability and other info)!. This will only help end the Crypto civil-war and complete the original whitepaper. This will be our contribution. #1. Discover the real Satoshi Nakamoto ✅ #2. Find location of mining computer(s) ✅ #3. Contract with source organisation(s) #4. Restore IT backups from 2008/2009 #5. Recover unpublished code + research #6. Create new IP and scale beyond VISA Your OP is fascinating. I (like everyone I guess) am too very intrigued by Satoshi's figure. Not just knowing the name (maybe that can be skipped at all), but learning all the historical stuff is really interesting. Not only seeing how Satoshi tried to (and managed to) convince people to use a revolutionary system like Bitcoin... the back and forth it all generated, all questions Satoshi was asked (and how Satoshi managed to answer them) is really educational to read. Having said that, I'm skeptical on how you would manage to restore offline backups Satoshi might had. Legally talking, obviously. I guess you would need to go there physically (or somehow get Satoshi to share you things never shared before). If we are talking about someone who paid a domain in an untraceable way back in then, I'm 100% positive everything was wiped from any machines Satoshi ever worked in. We created a Discord server ( https://discord.gg/wA4Dkz6) to debate about Satoshi, his/her/their figure, all his/her/their research and try to learn a little more about Satoshi's figure. Research, theories, everything is accepted ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Q: Why all the research? A: Understanding the history and origins of cryptography, e-cash, cryptocurrency and Bitcoin was an interesting journey that spanned over 20 years. Finding the details and information of the key players that made 'Today' and the 'Tomorrow' possible was invaluable. Often one must understand the past to build the future.
This topic is pure gold! Thank you OP for spending so much time for bringing all these precious links. I am also very passionate about Bitcoin and its ancestors history (you can read here my 1000th post: Bitcoin: The dream of Cypherpunks, libertarians and crypto-anarchists; at its bottom you can find more historical writings of mine). Obviously, your topic and your work went undermerited, as people are more interested about panem et circenses, therefore I sent you a 50 merits bomb (this being the second time I'm doing this) but not for your OP: it was for your first post in the topic, the one with all these valuable links. Another unfortunate aspect is that from all old forum members, only BitcoinFX appeared here... I would have merited also the OP with 50 merits, but the forum allows to send only 50 merits in 30 days to a particular user. However, I believe you should change OP title a bit, as it is misleading now: "Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? Solved!". The subject is not solved...and maybe it will never be solved. I'll come back in 30 days from now on to merit OP as well, but the "Solved" part should be changed. Thank you once again for this very entertaining reading and for providing all these details!
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July 13, 2020, 08:01:04 PM |
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Having said that, I'm skeptical on how you would manage to restore offline backups Satoshi might had. Legally talking, obviously. I guess you would need to go there physically (or somehow get Satoshi to share you things never shared before). If we are talking about someone who paid a domain in an untraceable way back in then, I'm 100% positive everything was wiped from any machines Satoshi ever worked in.
The main challenge has been finding a way of doing this that does not tip off 'other interested parties' while being able to conduct any search and potential retrieval. Going down the legal route is a possibility but would require in the region of several hundred thousand dollars to even try; and potentially a million or so dollars to realistically have a chance. Once the info is out of the bag, it would be a race! To find unpublished code snippets or writings would provide insights to so many open questions and challenges, it would be like discovering new writings by N.Tesla or Einstein!
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