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May 03, 2019, 09:43:06 PM
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I wonder if any and i would be happy to know. What will happen to gambling if everyone knows the formula and wins the game if any. If this is there then, the game wont be much addictive. 
Even the house doesn’t know the formula on some of the games like sports betting so gambling is nothing if everyone here will know how to always make profit. Lottery is a big thing and its about a millions of money so I believe even if you are genius about math you can’t still win because of the odds.
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May 03, 2019, 10:09:13 PM
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What are you talking about? If mathematicians and scientists would show you a real result, i don't know if you will ever understand and would even try to understand it. To keep the explanation simple, "HIGHER ODDS, LOWER PRIZE" or "LOWER ODDS, HIGHER PRIZE" come to think about it. I'm sure you would understand this simple steps.

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May 03, 2019, 10:33:47 PM
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Niothing formula for choosing number combination in lottory just your mind and imagination what is the best number combination to get the jackpot price, lottery is for luck games nothing to use skills like card games.
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May 03, 2019, 11:08:23 PM
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It absolutely mathematicians never wins in lottery game cause they don't even know the formula or calculations. I know lottery is a fair game and only win could win if we luckily choose the winning numbers for the day, it is pure luck, no mathematics involve.
Only we have chances to win if we buy more tickets but it cost a lot which mostly people can't make it, they'll just to wait there time to be the lucky winner. 



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May 03, 2019, 11:11:54 PM
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Is the binomial coefficient formula will really help you to find the right winning combination?
I don't think how this formula works on picking random numbers in the lottery for every drawn. As what I have to research I found the binomial coefficient formula and this formula I tried to study if it is how does work.


Source: http://www.mathwords.com/b/binomial_coefficients.htm

--where nPr is the formula for permutations of n objects taken r at a time.

Now, OP, do you think this formula will work on that and where the probability of winning or chance of winning.
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May 04, 2019, 04:02:05 AM
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It absolutely mathematicians never wins in lottery game cause they don't even know the formula or calculations. I know lottery is a fair game and only win could win if we luckily choose the winning numbers for the day, it is pure luck, no mathematics involve.
Only we have chances to win if we buy more tickets but it cost a lot which mostly people can't make it, they'll just to wait there time to be the lucky winner. 

More tickets will cost more money and even if you bought many tickets still there is no grantee that you can win. Lottery is not based on the fact that the one who bought more tickets will win. It can be that a person with a single ticket may win and the one with 20, 30 or even more tickets may lose. Nothing is certain in lottery.
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May 04, 2019, 10:55:11 AM
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To those have a thinking like that should now changed their views. It will just lead into studying a non-sense thing because of aggressiveness.

Even how technical and deeply our mathematical analysis here no such thing as formula that can increase the winnings in lottery.

That's why it called "lottery".

No mathematical formula can determine the lottery number because lottery numbers are generated randomly and mathematically you can not predict the next random number. For me, Half of the lotteries are fraud (as they announce a winner who never exists) and the rest half are gained by luck only.
You need to understand what a formula is. A mathematical formula is something that can help you reach at a conclusion about a problem with certain assumptions. Now in gambling, you would never find two such situations satisfying all the assumptions. They might be different in one way or the other so you cannot make use of a formula. On the other hand, mathematical knowledge is very important if you want to be a winner.
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May 04, 2019, 11:17:18 AM
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Have you gambled lottery?
Why Mathematicians aren't riches now in gambling since they know and expert in equation solving finding the x value?
Equation solving in Mathematics are helpful to finds or pick the numbers, how did you know if it is even or odd numbers in right combination?
Is the binomial coefficient formula will really help you to find the right winning combination?

Share your thought here and let's discuss this. Cheesy

According to wikipedia, the probability of a person winning each ticket is 1 in 13,983,8161. Each number you bet has a probability of 1 in 49 which exponentially grows for each number.

Even if someone where to identify a technique that increases his/her chance on winning a ticket, everything still revolves around the odds. Like what others have stated, every mathematician would be a billionaire if that were the case.


1https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lottery_mathematics
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May 04, 2019, 11:51:05 AM
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You have answered your own question. The popular belief that mathematics can help you win is a flawed concept. What maths does is that it predicts the odds - that is correctly done, but that won't help you win. Wins depend on your luck and your analysis of it's a EV+ game which lottery is not.

Use your common sense to answer this question if you are still in doubt. If there was such a method would casinos have no become bankrupt? But they didn't so the assumption was wrong. Wink
Actually, this is indeed the case 99% of the time, but math actually helps on rare occasions 1% of the time. For example:

https://hackernoon.com/gaming-the-lottery-how-one-winner-used-math-to-overcome-the-odds-71c8f688cedd

https://www.bestcollegesonline.com/blog/15-brilliant-math-geeks-who-outsmarted-the-system/

The MIT blackjack team is one of my favorites(Think there is a movie based on it).

You shouldn't necessarily be a great mathematician to spot a game with positive expected value (+EV). In fact, there are numerous of such games being run by various gambling sites for promotional purposes on a regular basis. And yet, we should never forget, that the word "expected" is not the same as "guaranteed". In all those cases you've mentioned, gamblers could also lose big time, dozens of thousands USD, because of the bad luck.

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May 04, 2019, 12:53:14 PM
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Have you gambled lottery?
Why Mathematicians aren't riches now in gambling since they know and expert in equation solving finding the x value?
Equation solving in Mathematics are helpful to finds or pick the numbers, how did you know if it is even or odd numbers in right combination?
Is the binomial coefficient formula will really help you to find the right winning combination?

Share your thought here and let's discuss this. Cheesy

It hasn't proven yet that a mathematician can accurately predict the winning lottery combination, they are still relying on the odds against the cost formula, I have read so many types of mathematical calculation, but they cannot be 100% accurate, everything in a lottery is still a games of chance.

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May 05, 2019, 03:13:35 AM
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Well, I read all replies and feedbacks of all users here. Indeed, most of them are agreed that there's no mathematical formula in having a probability of winning in lottery gambling. The whole thing I know there's a formula from a genius that possible can be used predicting in choosing numbers to be the result from the drawn.

Maybe there's someone knows regarding using a formula in gambling.









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May 05, 2019, 03:32:43 AM
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Well, I read all replies and feedbacks of all users here. Indeed, most of them are agreed that there's no mathematical formula in having a probability of winning in lottery gambling. The whole thing I know there's a formula from a genius that possible can be used predicting in choosing numbers to be the result from the drawn.

Maybe there's someone knows regarding using a formula in gambling.

I know alot of genius people and genius kids but most of them are not really wealthy  . i think they once used their ability to formulate a strategy or method that they will be using to increase their chance of winning in gambling but i guess gambling is still luck dependent  . mathematical formulas are still helpful and will be beneficial if used on the right way  .
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I have been read the story there was a poker player which very genius and he was able to calculate upcoming cards for his opponents and the results is he was can considers as king of poker and mathematical probably can be implemented on gamble but only the particular games and regarding lottery i think it was pure of luck and there is no method how to win big prize in lottery unless you're super lucky

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May 05, 2019, 09:58:15 AM
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Well, I read all replies and feedbacks of all users here. Indeed, most of them are agreed that there's no mathematical formula in having a probability of winning in lottery gambling.

Then read them again, dude. Smiley The probability of winning in lottery can be calculated, and it's not a secret. Check out the article from the link below.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lottery_mathematics

In a 6/49 lottery the probability of winning jackpot is 1 in 13,983,816. But it doesn't mean that if you bought 14 million tickets you would necessarily win the current jackpot because in case other people guessed it too, the prize would be split. 


The whole thing I know there's a formula from a genius that possible can be used predicting in choosing numbers to be the result from the drawn.

Maybe there's someone knows regarding using a formula in gambling.


What you can't do, regardless of what a genius you are, is predicting the winning numbers. Unless you have access to a time machine, you can't do that.

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May 05, 2019, 10:39:36 AM
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I wonder if any and i would be happy to know. What will happen to gambling if everyone knows the formula and wins the game if any. If this is there then, the game wont be much addictive. 
Even the house doesn’t know the formula on some of the games like sports betting so gambling is nothing if everyone here will know how to always make profit. Lottery is a big thing and its about a millions of money so I believe even if you are genius about math you can’t still win because of the odds.

The house always knows the odds and formulas, they even know how to adjust things according to risk, it's all based on algorithm now. Any house that doesn't know this and yet still allows people to place bets will eventually lose and bust. You simply can't enter the business if you're not prepared and educated. But anyway, that's sportsbooks. Lotteries are far easier to calculate because odds are fixed. Also, traditional lotto companies take out insurance that pays out when winners pay. Nothing is left to chance, sorry to burst your bubble!

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May 05, 2019, 02:32:32 PM
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No the computer has its own script but the script is composed of millions of combination number to which even the creator may even hardly recognized the script will also experience difficulty in winning.

This is why many are considering luck out from the bet. If one is so lucky then winning jackpot is possible. Just use the good senses when betting. Lol
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May 05, 2019, 03:10:33 PM
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Lol don't you know how many combination the lottery number has?and besides i think there is no strategy or computational about the winning combination as they are random and unpredictable

And besides if they can really find the formula then lottery outlets may be stopped and for sure bankruptcy is what they arw facing
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May 06, 2019, 12:38:18 PM
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No the computer has its own script but the script is composed of millions of combination number to which even the creator may even hardly recognized the script will also experience difficulty in winning.

This is why many are considering luck out from the bet. If one is so lucky then winning jackpot is possible. Just use the good senses when betting. Lol
Exactly. There could be so many situations based on the different positions and different combination of the elements involved in your gambling. Consider the case of a dice in which 6P6 give you 650 outputs I think. A simple mathematical formula cannot give you the exact information about how to take the next move. A mathematically blessed mind however happen to have an edge over the one less mathematically blessed.
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May 06, 2019, 01:23:49 PM
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Anyone that has simple understand of probability and odds wouldn't go near any of those big lotteries.  The chances are terrible and a large percentage of that money gets sucked up by governments.   That is why they say the lottery is a tax on poor people.
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May 07, 2019, 09:57:00 AM
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Anyone that has simple understand of probability and odds wouldn't go near any of those big lotteries.  The chances are terrible and a large percentage of that money gets sucked up by governments.   That is why they say the lottery is a tax on poor people.
The question that comes into my mind is that how do the people who win these lotteries actually win them? I have been following the biggest lotteries in the US and there have been people who had participated in lotteries years ago have been winning the lotteries. This is pure probability and pure random selection out outputs which of course means that there is no guarantee if you would win.
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