🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

[TopTort777]

^  Wait..  I don’t get it.  At the UFC Strike site it’s 50 bucks.  But who listed those UFC NFT’s at Opensea for .25 ETH?  Lol.  Just a random buyer?  And why multiple copies of Ngannou, Fig and Moreno?  Are those the common ones?  Lol.  I guess the rare ones worth buying are the Khabib, GSP or Nate Diaz ones?  I’d def want me one of those...  Even an Anderson Silva one.  Those def worth more than 50 bucks.

For 50 bucks you get 3 random NFTs. They can be anything But for 0.25 ETH you will get a rare Ngannou NFT. All the NFT on opensea are listed by UFC, probably . At least this Ngannou NFT has a video, while others are just pictures. As I understood, rare NFT will those that has a small video, and common are just pictures.

What makes me disappointed, the fact that I have found 2 NFS UFC Strike #37 and UFC Strike #29. Their series numbers are different, but they show same UFC fight moment.

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[DanWalker]

Dana just needs to compromise I would think. Ngannou probably wants bigger money, so instead of Dana giving him the money directly, allow him to have a few boxing fights. I'm not sure why the UFC puts it in the clause of the contract that they can't fight in other sports. It would probably be beneficial because you keep the fighters happy, and you also put UFC fighters in the limelight, and in front of a new audience.

For example, I was originally a boxing fan, never even considered watching the UFC because I fell for the appearance of it rather than actually what it is. I always thought, I don't want to watch people beat on each other to a inch of their life, but doesn't really sound like fun. I was the typical outsider thinking that the UFC was for thugs, and boxing had more honour. Though, obviously now I realise how stupid that was without actually giving it a chance, I'm now a bigger MMA fan than boxing, in fact I literally only watch the big fights in boxing nowadays, I couldn't care less about it otherwise.

So, I assume that getting these fighters in the spotlight, could prove beneficial to Dana. Dana should be upping the wages on principle alone considering how much PPV buys they have, and how low they're paying them in comparison with other professional athletes. However, I think Dana by offering fighters the chance to fight in boxing fights once or twice a year, but still restrict them from fighting in other MMA competitions could well be the way to get a happy middle ground with the fighters.

I thought the fight with Gane was incredibly close, Gane seemed to be too good moving around for Ngannou to get the connection, but Ngannou showed he can adapt, and he does have other tools to his belt. Obviously, when he was on top of Gane he effectively did nothing, but control. So, he definitely isn't brilliant at it, but its progress, and I want to see Ngannou stay in the UFC for a few years yet.

It's a gamble for Dana to do that really but I think he knows that once a star had reached its peak, will ask for more. Not saying it's bad that it goes above Ngannou's head. It's actaully good to ask more and Dana knows that if Ngannou earns big in boxing, he may not come back. It's the nature of man to desire more. Ngannou has something in mind also since he already has his own foundation.

And true. I also can't see a significant shot from Francis. The only I think that made him win is that he got control over Gane on the ground. Gane is fast in avoiding and blocking.

I expect Ngannou to be in the UFC for some time too. And I think Dana white needs to find a fighter for multiple fighters like Conor McGregor who can really promote UFC to the top and talk really good.

And Sean O'Malley is a good asset for the UFC who can promote fights really well. And Adesanya seems to be both a good fighter and a good fight promoter. maybe these people need to be pushed by the UFC.

[Welsh]

And Sean O'Malley is a good asset for the UFC who can promote fights really well. And Adesanya seems to be both a good fighter and a good fight promoter. maybe these people need to be pushed by the UFC.

I'd argue the opposite for Sean O'Malley, since to me he has a ceiling, and it definitely isn't in the top five. He's a good cash cow up until he gets found out against ranked opponents, and believe you me, he will be found out. I don't expect him to even challenge the top five, because Dana will want to protect him as much as possible. Same as Paddy who has made a great impact on fans, I think he clearly has a ceiling which probably isn't going to be anywhere near the top five.

Izzy is the exception here, one of the best fighters the UFC has seen, and he knows how to market. However, the real promoter was Conor who seems to be making a comeback sometime this year, which could be interesting if he takes it seriously, and gets that passion back that he seemed to have lost.

[notblox1]

Drama with Francis Ngannou and UFC continues and it seems like UFC threatened to sue him for talking about potential fight outside MMA in boxing.
Ngannou publicly said again that he is not happy with the way how UFC treated him, and I wouldn't be surprised if he lives them when his contract expires.
He fought out his contract after defeating Gane and now he has championship clause on the contract extended for three more fights.
Let's see what happens but I think his managers should start talking with other organizations now.
Maybe Dana is preparing for Jon Jones return.

[DanWalker]

And Sean O'Malley is a good asset for the UFC who can promote fights really well. And Adesanya seems to be both a good fighter and a good fight promoter. maybe these people need to be pushed by the UFC.

I'd argue the opposite for Sean O'Malley, since to me he has a ceiling, and it definitely isn't in the top five. He's a good cash cow up until he gets found out against ranked opponents, and believe you me, he will be found out. I don't expect him to even challenge the top five, because Dana will want to protect him as much as possible. Same as Paddy who has made a great impact on fans, I think he clearly has a ceiling which probably isn't going to be anywhere near the top five.

Izzy is the exception here, one of the best fighters the UFC has seen, and he knows how to market. However, the real promoter was Conor who seems to be making a comeback sometime this year, which could be interesting if he takes it seriously, and gets that passion back that he seemed to have lost.

Actually, you could be right about Sean O'Malley and paddy. But they do you seem to have a good impact on the crowd. But if they don't have the results to back their Talking up, then fans will also lose interest in them.

And about Conor McGregor, I think his situation is going to be more like Tony Ferguson. Because just like Tony didn't ever come back 100% from the beating he took against Justin, Conor McGregor also never recovered from the loss against Khabib Nurmagomedov. It's actually really hard to come back from a beating like that.

But if corner can come back and true that he is still one of the best then I think UFC is going to be more popular again.

[TopTort777]

And about Conor McGregor, I think his situation is going to be more like Tony Ferguson. Because just like Tony didn't ever come back 100% from the beating he took against Justin, Conor McGregor also never recovered from the loss against Khabib Nurmagomedov. It's actually really hard to come back from a beating like that.

What about his win over Donald Cerrone? That win was convincing. Those two losses to Poirier, lets just admit that Poirier developed and became stronger.

The problem with Conor McGregor last fight is that he is not in his division. Lightweight is not for him. His opponents are to tough to go to sleep after his left punch. Check out his record. Welterweight division and number of TKO by punches. Nearly perfect record. As soon as he moved lightweight and decided to be champ in two divisions, everything started to go bad for him.

[Welsh]

Drama with Francis Ngannou and UFC continues and it seems like UFC threatened to sue him for talking about potential fight outside MMA in boxing.
Ngannou publicly said again that he is not happy with the way how UFC treated him, and I wouldn't be surprised if he lives them when his contract expires.
He fought out his contract after defeating Gane and now he has championship clause on the contract extended for three more fights.
Let's see what happens but I think his managers should start talking with other organizations now.
Maybe Dana is preparing for Jon Jones return.

Ridiculous. That's a way to burn a bridge with one of the best heavyweights we've seen in recent years. A potential money maker in Ngannou vs Jones if Jones would get off Twitter, and actually fight. Just seems like Dana is going about this the completely wrong way, and it'll end up with him losing the current champion, and other fighters will start piping up about their situation.

I love the UFC as a competition, but I just hate how they run it from time to time. I see that Jake Paul is still trying to push Dana to pay the fighters more, and while I'm not his biggest fan, I've got to respect the amount of effort he's at least seeming to put in.

[Betwrong]

Ngannou doesnt have huge following in social media like Masvidal or Mcgregor thats why even if he is good at his boxing and his grappling, he will still be under appreciated by White. Its a subscribers game today which there is a cancel culture 😁

If Francis Ngannou, according to Dan White, has a small number of followers in social media, he should help him increase these numbers and stand with him at least for a photo with belt. After all, Dana White should want to increase his range to earn more on the next fight. In my opinion, he acted very strangely.

I don't get it. How's it a small number of followers if Francis Ngannou has 6 times more of them than Ciryl Gane?






In case you don't know, 661.3K followers is considered a lot. Kamaru Usman has 712.2K followers, for example.

They are already on sale at opensea. For example you can get Francis Ngannou for 0.25 ETH. Just search UFC Strike. Or https://opensea.io/UFC-NFTs looks like their official account.

I think this is what they call a Champions NFT moment. Would someone buy it? This is just a short clip, that millions already saw. This is not unique and dont give any extra rights for NFT holders.

Well, yeah, this is what's interesting to me too. I doubt anyone, apart from those connected to the sellers, is gonna buy it. Just look at the stats



Only one item has been bought so far. That's what you do so that people wouldn't think no one wants it. (My personal opinion. I may be wrong, of course).

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What I didn't immediately pick up on was Dana didn't give Ngannou the belt, he's usually there to tie the belt around the champions waist, but didn't do that this time. Also, one of the journalists in the post conference said that Dana wasn't there either. I'm wondering whether there's a lot more going on behind the scenes, because if we are to take Ngannou for his word, he didn't have a clue why Dana seemly trying to avoid confrontation with Ngannou on camera.

I'm noticing that there's definitely a lot more fighters speaking up about pay issues now, think Dana will be forced to raise them eventually, probably only marginal knowing Dana.

There could be some other reason why Dana wasn't there. Maybe a family emergency or something else. It will be interesting to see if he gives an explanation. It would seem kind of petty if it's just about money. Francis hasn't really been disrespectful about the whole situation at least publicly. Behind the scenes it could be a different matter, but Ngannou really isn't getting the money he deserves. I think he was paid half a million for that fight. How much money is McGregor getting? We all know he wouldn't fight for that sort of money and he hasn't been champion ages. He was also allowed to fight in boxing with the UFC getting a cut. The same should happen here.

Dana just needs to compromise I would think. Ngannou probably wants bigger money, so instead of Dana giving him the money directly, allow him to have a few boxing fights. I'm not sure why the UFC puts it in the clause of the contract that they can't fight in other sports. It would probably be beneficial because you keep the fighters happy, and you also put UFC fighters in the limelight, and in front of a new audience.

Dana can't really have half his fighters swanning off from the UFC to go compete in other combat sports. It doesn't really look good for business when fighters would rather be in boxing than MMA, though I do a agree it gets more attention on the UFC from boxing fans. Dana probably does need to allow for some leeway for the big fighters though. Just put a clause in that there's the option to fight in boxing matches but it has to be a UFC-cross promotion like the Mayweather McGregor fight and maybe the UFC gets 10-20% of the purse or whatever. Otherwise there's going to be an exodus of the best fighters because boxing is where the huge money is, especially if you can be your own promoter for the event. I mean, just look at the difference in sums of money:



I imagine Ngannou would make 5-10 million for a fight against Fury. Honestly speaking though, I don't think Francis would do very well in boxing unless he can get one of those freak knock-outs but if he can't do that against Gane then I doubt he will against Fury unless he gets lucky. Fury would probably just tire him out and I couldn't see Ngannou going the full 12 rounds with him. Maybe Francis just wants one or two huge paydays then he'll go off and do acting or something. Once he leaves the UFC though there's no going back so he has to be careful.

Don't know how accurate the following is but maybe Francis could just run down his contract with the UFC and let it expire:

UFC heavyweight champion Francis Ngannou has lost out on $7million (£5.2m) after turning down several new contract offers from the promotion.

Ngannou is out of contract with the UFC after his decision win against Ciryl Gane at UFC 270 marked the last fight on his deal.

'The Predator' owes the UFC another fight due to the champion's clause extension, but is free to leave in December as the deal he signed into 2017 cannot exceed five years.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/mma/ngannou-ufc-contract-dana-white-26045218

And Sean O'Malley is a good asset for the UFC who can promote fights really well. And Adesanya seems to be both a good fighter and a good fight promoter. maybe these people need to be pushed by the UFC.

I'd argue the opposite for Sean O'Malley, since to me he has a ceiling, and it definitely isn't in the top five. He's a good cash cow up until he gets found out against ranked opponents, and believe you me, he will be found out. I don't expect him to even challenge the top five, because Dana will want to protect him as much as possible. Same as Paddy who has made a great impact on fans, I think he clearly has a ceiling which probably isn't going to be anywhere near the top five.

I think Dana is hoping one of O'Malley and Paddy will be the new McGregor. I think they both have potential but probably not at Connor-level. They both get attention but

[YuginKadoya]

Just in, the Ngannou VS Gane fight, that Francis Ngannou has a knee injury when he fights Ciryl Gane, that is why he has those knee supports to cover the injured knee so basically, Francis Ngannou is fighting with 1 leg, if this is true then Ciryl Gane's has a handicap when he fought Ngannou, and that is why the fight ends up in a Decision, and Ngannou on the third round have decided to go on with the takedowns and wrestling his way to win, which is effective but at the same time, this time luck is on his side, what do you guys think?

I think Dana is hoping one of O'Malley and Paddy will be the new McGregor. I think they both have potential but probably not at Connor-level. They both get attention but

For me, we can not compare them to Conor McGregor, and with that kind of level of hype, I really think that Sean O'Malley has no shine anymore when Marlon Vera Destroy's his ego, and I think that if they would fight again Marlon Vera will definitely going to win again, in my opinion, and with Aljamain Sterling keeps on dodging another fight, that was the rumors says, the UFC should strip him of the Bantamweight Champion, and give it to the most qualified one, for me Petr Yan or Marlon Vera.

[TopTort777]

People who compare fighters payment in boxing and UFC and say that UFC fighters deserves to earn more, what could you say about payment in ice hockey and field hockey? Both sports require puck, equipment and stick. Top NHL players earn 10+ millions per season. Field hockey players get around 100k. Or compare soccer player payments with Australian football payments. Unfair again?

[tokeweed]

^  Wait..  I don’t get it.  At the UFC Strike site it’s 50 bucks.  But who listed those UFC NFT’s at Opensea for .25 ETH?  Lol.  Just a random buyer?  And why multiple copies of Ngannou, Fig and Moreno?  Are those the common ones?  Lol.  I guess the rare ones worth buying are the Khabib, GSP or Nate Diaz ones?  I’d def want me one of those...  Even an Anderson Silva one.  Those def worth more than 50 bucks.

For 50 bucks you get 3 random NFTs. They can be anything But for 0.25 ETH you will get a rare Ngannou NFT. All the NFT on opensea are listed by UFC, probably . At least this Ngannou NFT has a video, while others are just pictures. As I understood, rare NFT will those that has a small video, and common are just pictures.

What makes me disappointed, the fact that I have found 2 NFS UFC Strike #37 and UFC Strike #29. Their series numbers are different, but they show same UFC fight moment.

Oh...  Lol.  No way I’m paying .25 ETH for an Ngannou NFT.  I mean compared to legends like Khabib, Anderson Silva, GSP or even Royce Gracie, who is Ngannou?  Name value is low.  I would think Brock Lesnar has higher name value than him due to a larger fan base outside of MMA.  I think Nate Diaz would hold more value as an NFT.

And I think it’s a mistake that the UFC chose to have their NFT’s in a relatively unknown blockchain.  They’d be better off in Ethereum or in one of the L2’s.  I mean who would bridge coins to Flow just to get those NFT’s.

[ChiBitCTy]

People who compare fighters payment in boxing and UFC and say that UFC fighters deserves to earn more, what could you say about payment in ice hockey and field hockey? Both sports require puck, equipment and stick. Top NHL players earn 10+ millions per season. Field hockey players get around 100k. Or compare soccer player payments with Australian football payments. Unfair again?

I think it all comes down to who's earning the most money for the sport/sports owner/team etc.  I have heard that UFC fighters are a bit underpaid but I am not very well versed on the subject so not sure if there's any merit to that or not.  I am curious if the UFC has some sort of "players union" type deal like other sports do (baseball/basketball/NFL etc) where they can help fight for the fighters (no pun intended) to receive more fair contracts.

[TheNineClub]

People who compare fighters payment in boxing and UFC and say that UFC fighters deserves to earn more, what could you say about payment in ice hockey and field hockey? Both sports require puck, equipment and stick. Top NHL players earn 10+ millions per season. Field hockey players get around 100k. Or compare soccer player payments with Australian football payments. Unfair again?

I think it all comes down to who's earning the most money for the sport/sports owner/team etc.  I have heard that UFC fighters are a bit underpaid but I am not very well versed on the subject so not sure if there's any merit to that or not.  I am curious if the UFC has some sort of "players union" type deal like other sports do (baseball/basketball/NFL etc) where they can help fight for the fighters (no pun intended) to receive more fair contracts.

A bit underpaid is a bit of an understatement. This has been an issue for some time now but has been swept under the rug at first because it was generally understood that MMA wasn't generating enough to pay everybody as they should. Well, everybody but the UFC brass that is. However, as things changed financially for the UFC, talks about a union have been risen, but...well...fighters are not unionizing. Efforts have been made but fighters just do not want to get on the bad side of the UFC by grouping into a union. I mean, this is an oversimplification of the issue, but you get the gist.

[Hydrogen]

UFC fighter pay has been discussed over the past 10 years, since Tito Ortiz and Dana White had their falling out.

It has a long history, which many are not aware of.

Leslie Smith in the past pushed project spearhead in an effort to unionize the UFC. Jon Fitch and John S. Nash pushed the Ali Act. Cung Le and Nate Quarry were also involved.

This goes back more than 5 years.

Will the current campaign on UFC fighter pay be any more successful than past attempts?

Somehow I don't think it will. Those who of us who have been around for awhile know why.

[Welsh]

This goes back more than 5 years.

Will the current campaign on UFC fighter pay be any more successful than past attempts?

Somehow I don't think it will. Those who of us who have been around for awhile know why.

The difference for me is the whole world is hearing about it now. You're quite right that this has been going on a long time, since fighters pay was probably even less than it's today. However, fighters are starting to be heard outside of the UFC, and people are taking notice. If that hurts the brand, then Dana will have no choice, but to change the way he pays fighters. Has others have rightly pointed out, he probably can't change it drastically for all the fighters on the roster, but I imagine he will have to up the wages for the more influential fighters, and definitely for the champions, and contenders.

[YuginKadoya]

People who compare fighters payment in boxing and UFC and say that UFC fighters deserves to earn more, what could you say about payment in ice hockey and field hockey? Both sports require puck, equipment and stick. Top NHL players earn 10+ millions per season. Field hockey players get around 100k. Or compare soccer player payments with Australian football payments. Unfair again?

in my opinion, Ice Hockey is more popular than Field Hockey, you can not compare the two, because mainly not all countries have a sport of field hockey mainly popularized in the USA ice hockey is very well-known and popular, and I myself really don't know that there is a field hockey game if you would not spout it here, I don't know if Field Hockey is the original sports and ice hockey just derived from field hockey or vice versa, but I think people like me would notice ice hockey more than field hockey, and from that I think we can conclude that there are many sponsors for ice hockey than with field hockey,

and again, we can not compare UFC and boxing and with their payments anyway, but I am just saying that UFC fighters should be compensated by the way sports could risk one's lives or involve the safety of someone should take a  huge profit out of it, or just give him all the profit that he earned or all-expense-paid should not be taken out on a fighters payment but should be on the management side, or if not pay a large amount to the fighter,

But anyway Dana White is the one controlling it so it is his decision, and there are no legal actions regarding this kind of treatment to the fighters,

[bbc.reporter]

UFC fighter pay has been discussed over the past 10 years, since Tito Ortiz and Dana White had their falling out.

It has a long history, which many are not aware of.

Leslie Smith in the past pushed project spearhead in an effort to unionize the UFC. Jon Fitch and John S. Nash pushed the Ali Act. Cung Le and Nate Quarry were also involved.

This goes back more than 5 years.

Will the current campaign on UFC fighter pay be any more successful than past attempts?

Somehow I don't think it will. Those who of us who have been around for awhile know why.

Dana should begin paying his women fighters more money or we might witness much of them open an onlyfans.com account for extra income hehehe. Did everyone watch Kay Hansen during UFC 270? She has an onlyfans.com account.

https://onlyfans.com/kayhansenmma

There are some of those pictures in Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KayHansenNSFW/

Jessica Andrade also has an account in onlyfans.com, however, I will not share this because it might cause very scary nightmares hehehehe.

[TopTort777]

I am curious if the UFC has some sort of "players union" type deal like other sports do (baseball/basketball/NFL etc) where they can help fight for the fighters (no pun intended) to receive more fair contracts.

UFC fighters can unite against UFC and put on the line their contracts, when asking about raise. In NHL 2004-2005 season players were also not satisfied with payments. Second NHL lockout was in 2012-2013. Two seasons lost… UFC fighters can do the same. If they will be fired, other organizations will fight for accepting them.

in my opinion, Ice Hockey is more popular than Field Hockey

You are saying correct words. Ice hockey is more popular. Same is with boxing and UFC. You have mentioned safety. Again, 100% hit. Boxing is more dangerous than MMA. Injuries can be cured, but no one can cure the damage punch does to the brain. Also, ever heart that any MMA fighter died or get crippled during or in a short time after the fight? Boxing has hundred of such cases.

Found new info about situation with Ngannou. There is a clause in his contract, that does not allow him to compete in combat sport one year after his UFC contract ends. He is 35, becoming a boxing star at 37 is hard. (this news can be fake)

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Ngannou doesnt have huge following in social media like Masvidal or Mcgregor thats why even if he is good at his boxing and his grappling, he will still be under appreciated by White. Its a subscribers game today which there is a cancel culture 😁

If Francis Ngannou, according to Dan White, has a small number of followers in social media, he should help him increase these numbers and stand with him at least for a photo with belt. After all, Dana White should want to increase his range to earn more on the next fight. In my opinion, he acted very strangely.

I don't get it. How's it a small number of followers if Francis Ngannou has 6 times more of them than Ciryl Gane?

Is that twitter? Nobody cares abut twitter followers other than SJWs. Ngannou has 3.6 million on Insta compared to 3 million for Masvidal. They're all dwarfed by McGregor's 43.8 though.

People who compare fighters payment in boxing and UFC and say that UFC fighters deserves to earn more, what could you say about payment in ice hockey and field hockey? Both sports require puck, equipment and stick. Top NHL players earn 10+ millions per season. Field hockey players get around 100k. Or compare soccer player payments with Australian football payments. Unfair again?

It's not about that. 500-600k for a champion fighter of Ngannou's calibre is nothing and we're not saying they should be getting paid the same as boxers, but when they can make millions in boxing there's bound to be an exodus to that sport. From what I understand Ngannou  just wants the option to be able to fight in boxing but current UFC contracts keep them locked in so they can't do anything outside of it and I think those sort of restrictive terms are going to shoot the UFC in the foot, because they just won't re-sign and go over to boxing. At the moment fighters like The Paul brothers are making more money than world champs like Francis which they're obviously going to take as an insult. UFC fighters should be paid more, but we're not saying they should be getting the big bucks from boxing mega fights. Up their pay a little, boost the winning bonuses a bit and let the bigger fighters have cross-promo matches in boxing and UFC can take their cut of that as well otherwise champs like Ngannou won't be fighting in the UFC anymore which will be a real shame.