🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

[TopTort777]

I think Israel Adesanya (got 600+ for his last fight) and Kamaru Usman (put a million in his pocket for last fight) are "second biggest draw right now".

I just watch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_records#Finances and make conclusion that Ngannou is not the biggest star in UFC, that allows him to dictate his rules. Maybe you are right, and the only thing he isnt happy in his contract is the clause that does not allow him to fight outside UFC. If we return to McGregor, he gave up two belts, did not sign new contract with UFC and had a fight against McGregor. Why dont Francis Ngannou dont want to do the same?

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I think Israel Adesanya (got 600+ for his last fight) and Kamaru Usman (put a million in his pocket for last fight) are "second biggest draw right now".

I just watch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_records#Finances and make conclusion that Ngannou is not the biggest star in UFC, that allows him to dictate his rules.

The top spots there are all taken by Connor. Take McGregor out of those and where else does everyone stack? I'm sure Ngannou is in the top ten, but just because he's not bringing in what Connor is doesn't mean he doesn't deserve more money. Regardless of where he is in the PPV rankings he's still a big draw and UFC's superstar heavyweight right now. I think his stock will only rise he if he keep fighting specially if he can get another of those vicious KOs. If he's landing more acting gigs that's even more eyeballs on him and the sport.

Maybe you are right, and the only thing he isnt happy in his contract is the clause that does not allow him to fight outside UFC. If we return to McGregor, he gave up two belts, did not sign new contract with UFC and had a fight against McGregor. Why dont Francis Ngannou dont want to do the same?

Ngannou probably will walk away if he doesn't get what he wants. And assuming you're talking about the Mayweather/McGregor fight he did that whilst still under contract with the UFC and it was a cross promo event with the UFC and Dana taking a cut of Connor's purse (see the UFC logo at the bottom):



I think Dana should extend the same courtesy that he did to Connor and let him box. If he doesn't then he'll probably just lose Francis all together so it's lose/lose for Dana/UFC in my opinion.

[fiulpro]

I think Israel Adesanya (got 600+ for his last fight) and Kamaru Usman (put a million in his pocket for last fight) are "second biggest draw right now".


I just watch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_records#Finances and make conclusion that Ngannou is not the biggest star in UFC, that allows him to dictate his rules.

The top spots there are all taken by Connor. Take McGregor out of those and where else does everyone stack? I'm sure Ngannou is in the top ten, but just because he's not bringing in what Connor is doesn't mean he doesn't deserve more money. Regardless of where he is in the PPV rankings he's still a big draw and UFC's superstar heavyweight right now. I think his stock will only rise he if he keep fighting specially if he can get another of those vicious KOs. If he's landing more acting gigs that's even more eyeballs on him and the sport.

Maybe you are right, and the only thing he isnt happy in his contract is the clause that does not allow him to fight outside UFC. If we return to McGregor, he gave up two belts, did not sign new contract with UFC and had a fight against McGregor. Why dont Francis Ngannou dont want to do the same?

Ngannou probably will walk away if he doesn't get what he wants. And assuming you're talking about the Mayweather/McGregor fight he did that whilst still under contract with the UFC and it was a cross promo event with the UFC and Dana taking a cut of Connor's purse (see the UFC logo at the bottom):



I think Dana should extend the same courtesy that he did to Connor and let him box. If he doesn't then he'll probably just lose Francis all together so it's lose/lose for Dana/UFC in my opinion.

Well, first Rose Namajunas was a strong-willed fighter in what I have seen and she conquers Joanna Jedrzejczyk 2 times by taking the UFC Women's Strawweight Championship And defending it on a rematch against her and even in circumstances that Jedrzejczyk was taller than her 5 ft 6 in while Namajunas was only 5 ft 5 in But aside from that I really think Namajunas had the guts to really won the title against Jedrzejczyk she has a great Performance back then While Jessica Andrade was beaten by Jedrzejczyk on a title match against the UFC Women's Strawweight Championship So my bet will go to Rose Namajunas Well I guess Andrade has more experience regarding Namajunas 4 matches on Amateur record fights, And 3 Exhibition matches, Well I guess Namajunas can pull out some crazy kicks and lockdown on Andrade.

While on the part on Jared Cannonier Vs Anderson Silva I guess that Cannonier could win this fight because I really think Silva was not so well in the fights anymore after his leg injury to Weidman his career was set back entirely, and his performance was not quite the same in my opinion, I really think that his Injury and his old age was dragging him down.

I will not change my previous post, Even though Andrade has a physique of a bodybuilder and I think even got strength to win in this fight I like Namajunas personality and her dedication and her sheer will of determination that could let her win in this fight, I wish her the best of luck that she may prevail in winning this one,  I guess with her footwork and speed Andrade will not caught up to her like Kowalkiewicz did, But still best of luck to both fighters.

While for Cannonier and Silva, I really like Silva back then when his cocky attitude with his every movement, But this fight is different and may get the best of cannonier in this fight, But with due respect to Silva's will on keeping on fighting despite his accident with his leg back then regards and respect for both of them.

I wonder what the best option for NGANNOU is come his free agency. If he fights the gypsy king it will definitely boost his public profile along side Connor. Connor is dropping off. How long will these McGregor stans hold onto the lucky clover as he continues down the path of his obviously demise. Adesanya needs another finish against Whittaker to continue having his name in the starlight, I wonder how many fights he will be involved in for the reminder of contact with uncle Dana. As he has previously spoke of retirement, with his motivation unclear, I feel he knows he better quit while ahead. These up and coming fights in the division are only getting betterß

[Welsh]

The thing is with the Ngannou situation is he isn't exactly young. He's 35 years old, and probably only has a maximum of five years left. It would just be a shame to keep him locked in, and not allow him to compete elsewhere. Even if Dana has to do something similar to what he did with the Conor boxing match, and take a cut. I'd think that would benefit Dana since there's a lot more money involved anyway in boxing. Realistically, the only logical step for Ngannou in the UFC is either a fight with Jones or a rematch with Gane. I personally don't see Jones stepping back in the cage, he seems content at creating a bit of a fuss outside of it, and claiming he would beat everyone easily.

Jones vs Ngannou though I can almost guarantee that Jones would be getting paid the most which would be unfair considering the amount of time he's been out, and the fact that Ngannou is the current champion, however that would do numbers for UFC. That would likely be a top 10 PPV event. So, the UFC can still benefit financially from Ngannou, they just need to take care of their man, allow him to box, and give him a nice share in any future mega fights. 

[notblox1]

Mayweather vs McGregor fight is the last real money grab Connor will do in his life, but my money is on Mayweather to win easy.

Anyone saw new video Jake Paul did called Dana White diss track? He mentioned McGgregor among others 
He hired some lookalike actor to represent Dana White and legendary fighter Cris Cyborg can be seen in the same video, logo is UCF instead of UFC and he is saying Dana is on cocaine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UycLZUh7Mhc

[Welsh]

Anyone saw new video Jake Paul did called Dana White diss track? He mentioned McGgregor among others
He hired some lookalike actor to represent Dana White and legendary fighter Cris Cyborg can be seen in the same video, logo is UCF instead of UFC and he is saying Dana is on cocaine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UycLZUh7Mhc

As much as you might hate Jake Paul, he knows how to do business, and put himself in good positions in life. I actually think we might see Jake Paul fighting in the MMA world eventually. He probably won't get into the UFC for good reason, but I've seen a few of his training videos circulating around, and he's most definitely practicing his kicks.

300k views already, and something like this is going to go incredibly viral so I expect this will get a reaction out of Dana. Wouldn't you just love it if Ngannou put a link on his Twitter or something.

I like the reference to Eminem's audition too which is quite nicely portrayed in "8 Mile".

 

[YuginKadoya]

By the way, why everybody think thank Ngannou would earn millions in boxing? Before ufc created him a star, he was nobody. Without ufc promotion, would the world know that there is a boxer in France that knock people out cold? Would someone offer him a million cheque for the fight? He would need first ti go through number of fights, before he gets a real opponent and get paid huge.

Doesn't really matter who made you famous, just the fact that you're famous in terms of boxing. In boxing, there's much less well known fighters earning more than the heavyweight champion of the UFC. Also, there's also Jake Paul, although that's probably not comparable because he's well known, and a big name in Youtube. Though, there's definitely lesser known boxers making more than Ngannou.

He would walk into a fight with Fury if he wanted, which would mean big bucks for him. Even if he only got 20 percent of the purse he would be better off.

I agree! if you would look at different fighters in the UFC that are already retired and having boxing exhibitions with a known boxer, or well-known youtube star those UFC fighters are getting much money from getting payment on fights on UFC, Ben Askren VS Jake Paul have generated 1.5 Million PPV, (Jake Paul claims) and Ben Askren Guaranteed purse money was $500,000 USD, Jake Paul VS Tyron Woodley 1st fight Tyron Woodley Guaranteed purse money was $2,000,000 USD I don't know about their 2nd match base purse because the fighter pay is not released, but we can estimate base from their 1st fight that it could be $1,000,000 USD or another $2,000,000 USD, and add to the Base Purse money they will also get PPV revenue on how much the PPV would be earned, While the Evander Holyfield VS Vitor Belfort fight although the payout was not published aswell, there is an estimated revenue and Belfort will get $300,000 to $400,000 USD and plus the PPV revenue of the fight and we all knew who won that fight,

And from this, if Francis Ngannou would sure fight in a boxing match, he could likely take almost a lot from an Exhibition match I think he needs to win an Exhibition match 1st, to certainly become well-known in the world of boxing, and yes he is well-known in his own rights, in the UFC and if that Tyson Fury VS Francis Ngnnou would continue then I think that would be a bigger fight than with the rest I have mentioned.

Edit: oh I forgot the Mayweather VS McGregor fights but you can sure search their Guaranteed purse and PPV revenue online.

[Welsh]

And from this, if Francis Ngannou would sure fight in a boxing match, he could likely take almost a lot from an Exhibition match I think he needs to win an Exhibition match 1st, to certainly become well-known in the world of boxing, and yes he is well-known in his own rights, in the UFC and if that Tyson Fury VS Francis Ngnnou would continue then I think that would be a bigger fight than with the rest I have mentioned.

Edit: oh I forgot the Mayweather VS McGregor fights but you can sure search their Guaranteed purse and PPV revenue online.

Yeah, winning a boxing match would just add fuel to the fire, because overall UFC fighters going into Boxing haven't really done well. Apart from Anderson Silva I think all in recent memory have done pretty poorly. The thing is Ngannou is unlikely going to be able to cherry pick his opponent, since he won't have the cash behind him like Jake Paul does, and a lot of fighters will want to avoid fighting him because of his power.

Even Logan Paul vs Mayweather was absolutely massive, I do see that Logan Paul is claiming that Mayweather promotions haven't paid him his share though. Not exactly sure how to verify his claims though.

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I think Israel Adesanya (got 600+ for his last fight) and Kamaru Usman (put a million in his pocket for last fight) are "second biggest draw right now".

I just watch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_records#Finances and make conclusion that Ngannou is not the biggest star in UFC, that allows him to dictate his rules.

The top spots there are all taken by Connor. Take McGregor out of those and where else does everyone stack? I'm sure Ngannou is in the top ten, but just because he's not bringing in what Connor is doesn't mean he doesn't deserve more money. Regardless of where he is in the PPV rankings he's still a big draw and UFC's superstar heavyweight right now. I think his stock will only rise he if he keep fighting specially if he can get another of those vicious KOs. If he's landing more acting gigs that's even more eyeballs on him and the sport.

Maybe you are right, and the only thing he isnt happy in his contract is the clause that does not allow him to fight outside UFC. If we return to McGregor, he gave up two belts, did not sign new contract with UFC and had a fight against McGregor. Why dont Francis Ngannou dont want to do the same?

Ngannou probably will walk away if he doesn't get what he wants. And assuming you're talking about the Mayweather/McGregor fight he did that whilst still under contract with the UFC and it was a cross promo event with the UFC and Dana taking a cut of Connor's purse (see the UFC logo at the bottom):



I think Dana should extend the same courtesy that he did to Connor and let him box. If he doesn't then he'll probably just lose Francis all together so it's lose/lose for Dana/UFC in my opinion.

Yup but the problem is it debases the UFC brand when their best fighters in the roster cross over to boxing just to lose.  When McGregor lost to Mayweather, sure he got paid but his stock went down.  McGregor became a meme.  Boxing fans celebrated acting all like ‘we’re better’.  I think that’s what Dana White wants to avoid.  It would be a different story if somehow McGregor made it into a really close fight tho.  We’d prolly see more cross overs.

Now if Ngannou walks away, I don’t think he’ll be doing as well financially as he will be if he stays with the UFC.  He’ll be like Fedor.

[YuginKadoya]

Yeah, winning a boxing match would just add fuel to the fire, because overall UFC fighters going into Boxing haven't really done well. Apart from Anderson Silva I think all in recent memory have done pretty poorly. The thing is Ngannou is unlikely going to be able to cherry pick his opponent, since he won't have the cash behind him like Jake Paul does, and a lot of fighters will want to avoid fighting him because of his power.

Even Logan Paul vs Mayweather was absolutely massive, I do see that Logan Paul is claiming that Mayweather promotions haven't paid him his share though. Not exactly sure how to verify his claims though.

I really think passion is what drives a fighter in pursuing what he wants and Francis Ngannou is one of that fighters, I really think that he has already done training as a boxer, even though he has shown tremendous strength in wrestling against Ciryl Gane because he is pushing himself to his limits and really wants to win, I think the drive to win really has pushed him the boundary in wrestling, and because of that knee injury that he doesn't want to publicize, this has pushed him to used wrestling, and he said that he wants to keep on winning with a Knockout or submission but that only decision win was because due to his knee injury, I think he pushes himself to the brink in training both in boxing and with his upcoming fight to Ciryl Gane, so many boxers should avoid him because of his power and determination, but I still like Ciryl Gane,

I haven't seen that issue yet, but if I would see it will surely share that here, that is a massive claim that Mayweather promotions haven't given his payment yet, and right now I think they have a personal vendetta going on and because of this issue it will surely rise even more.

[Welsh]

Now if Ngannou walks away, I don’t think he’ll be doing as well financially as he will be if he stays with the UFC.  He’ll be like Fedor.

Let's just say he gets a fight with Fury for argument sake, he would very likely earn the equivalent he's earned through the UFC in one night. If he plays it smartly, and fights someone of lesser ability first, gets a win not only does his stock go up, but he can earn more money for longer. I don't think he's going to have a long term future in boxing, considering his age too. However, he can definitely earn more.

Remember that sponsorship for boxing is generally higher too because of the viewership difference. UFC has come on leaps, and bounds, but it's not quite there yet to compete with boxing.

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^  Oh if he gets a boxing deal with Fury?  Def he’ll be paid a lot of money that he’ll start his own whisky company and make even more money then start losing all his next MMA matches and might even break his leg.  Lolol.  

Seriously, yeah...  Ngannou prolly is thinking of getting as much money now while he’s still at the top.  But the problem is I think the UFC can’t give him a better deal than what he wants.  I agree that they should pay him more but what if he’s asking a lot more than what the UFC is willing to give?

I think what Dana should do is pair Ngannou up with Jones and hope for the best.  Maybe give Jones a picogram.  

[YuginKadoya]

^  Oh if he gets a boxing deal with Fury?  Def he’ll be paid a lot of money that he’ll start his own whisky company and make even more money then start losing all his next MMA matches and might even break his leg.  Lolol.  

Seriously, yeah...  Ngannou prolly is thinking of getting as much money now while he’s still at the top.  But the problem is I think the UFC can’t give him a better deal than what he wants.  I agree that they should pay him more but what if he’s asking a lot more than what the UFC is willing to give?

I think what Dana should do is pair Ngannou up with Jones and hope for the best.  Maybe give Jones a picogram.  

Definitely Dana White would not give Francis Ngannou what he wants, that is why the final option for Francis Ngannou to get a larger pay and as you said while he is in top shape and in his prime is by a boxing match with a well-known boxer or even a personality, that could certainly give him in addition to the sure purse a cut to the Pay per view revenue, I think a Tyson Fury fight would be a great deal for him, then when he got into a match with Tyson Fury I think that is the best way to switch from MMA to a boxing career, if he can not tolerate anymore the bad gesture Dana White is getting at him then I think it is really time to leave the first sports that have made you into a big star, well nothing lasts forever that is why it is good to pursue what you want to do,

And in Ngannou's case, boxing is a very ideal sport for him that he wants to try, but that Knee injury he sustain before the Ciryl Gane fight is a big issue right now that is why he needs to rest for a bit and try to focus on healing, for now, I don't know if he signs another contract with the UFC, but let's just wait if he would truly become a boxer of not.

[Welsh]

^  Oh if he gets a boxing deal with Fury?  Def he’ll be paid a lot of money that he’ll start his own whisky company and make even more money then start losing all his next MMA matches and might even break his leg.  Lolol.  

Seriously, yeah...  Ngannou prolly is thinking of getting as much money now while he’s still at the top.  But the problem is I think the UFC can’t give him a better deal than what he wants.  I agree that they should pay him more but what if he’s asking a lot more than what the UFC is willing to give?

I think what Dana should do is pair Ngannou up with Jones and hope for the best.  Maybe give Jones a picogram.  

Hes realistically probably got five years left, but probably not at the top. Though, you could argue that power doesn't really diminish all that much as you age, and speed, and reflexes are usually the first to go, which Ngannou isn't exactly known for. So, he could have another five years on top, but I would probably say three years is a more sensible assumption to make. Judging by that, he's probably got three or four fights left in him. If he defends the belt for those three years, he'll make roughly 600k each time, so 1.8 million. Whereas if he goes into boxing, even someone that isn't Fury's caliber he can probably make that in either one fight or two.

Now, if Ngannou, and Jones was a reality, and it did happen. I expect Jones to command the biggest paycheck, but I would absolutely expect both fighters to be getting more than the average. So, while I want Francis to remain in the UFC, if he only cares about money, then the only logical thing to do would be to go to boxing.

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I wonder what the best option for NGANNOU is come his free agency. If he fights the gypsy king it will definitely boost his public profile along side Connor. Connor is dropping off. How long will these McGregor stans hold onto the lucky clover as he continues down the path of his obviously demise.

I think Ngannou's best bet is to just wait to fight Tyson rather than having some warm up fights with bums. If he doesn't do great or loses the excitement for the Tyson fight will wane or Tyson just won't take it. Francis is going to have to wait till December to run his contract down and Tyson is fighting Whyte fairly soonish and then I'm guessing he'll fight the winner of AJ/Usyk by the end of the year so if he wants a shot at Tyson he's probably going to have to wait till 2023 anyway so it could work out great for all. Maybe Francis could take on Wilder or something as well since he's not up to much these days. Might be a good fight for them both actually as Wilder also has that one punch knock out power. As for McGregor, he's at serious risk of becoming a bum if he keeps losing because his stock drops with each loss, though I still think he's got a big enough fanbase that will support him no matter what so he'll still be a huge draw but just not to the levels he was at for the Mayweather fight. According to Connor he has two fights left on his contract and has a goal of claiming all the top ten PPV fights which he could easily do: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/16916342/conor-mcgregor-ufc-contract-ppv-sales/

I'm not sure who he should fight first. Maybe the trilogy with Nate or the fourth fight with Poirier. I'm sure Daddy Dana wants to give him a title shot with Charles Oliveira or maybe Justin Gaethje if he wins in May at UFC 274. Connor shouldn't be getting a title shot in his first fight back though. After that or if he choses not to resign with the UFC it ​wouldn't surprise me at all if Connor ends up fighting Jake Paul. Paul needs to be careful and not lose before that though because if he does he'll lose a lot of his allure. Him going into a McGregor match unbeaten will definitely sell the fight. If he has a couple more fights and keeps knocking people out then that will help his cause even more so.

The thing is with the Ngannou situation is he isn't exactly young. He's 35 years old, and probably only has a maximum of five years left. It would just be a shame to keep him locked in, and not allow him to compete elsewhere. Even if Dana has to do something similar to what he did with the Conor boxing match, and take a cut. I'd think that would benefit Dana since there's a lot more money involved anyway in boxing. Realistically, the only logical step for Ngannou in the UFC is either a fight with Jones or a rematch with Gane. I personally don't see Jones stepping back in the cage, he seems content at creating a bit of a fuss outside of it, and claiming he would beat everyone easily.

Yeah, he knows he's probably got about three more years in him before he passes his peak. He's either going to re-sign or just run his contract down then do what he wants. There's no guarantee Tyson will fight him though as he's going to be a busy boy this year. After Whyte and then probably AJ or Usyk who is there left for him? Tyson/Ngannou would be a good retirement fight for both of them I think.

Jones vs Ngannou though I can almost guarantee that Jones would be getting paid the most which would be unfair considering the amount of time he's been out, and the fact that Ngannou is the current champion, however that would do numbers for UFC. That would likely be a top 10 PPV event. So, the UFC can still benefit financially from Ngannou, they just need to take care of their man, allow him to box, and give him a nice share in any future mega fights.

I'm not so sure about that. Jones has been out a long time. I'm not sure he deserves a title shot straight away either but I guess Dana can do what he wants, but if he was to fight Francis it should be a 50/50 split at most. I very much doubt Francis would be happy about getting paid less. Jones is probably more stubborn that Francis right now as well so that fight will be a nightmare to get sorted though I would like to see it.  Dana does seem to be actively trying to make that fight happen for this year though: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/17460467/dana-white-francis-ngannou-jon-jones-fight-ufc-news/

Francis re-matching Gane is risky in my opinion. That match was very close so he could easily lose that fight, though then I guess there's big bucks in a trilogy.

Yup but the problem is it debases the UFC brand when their best fighters in the roster cross over to boxing just to lose.  When McGregor lost to Mayweather, sure he got paid but his stock went down.  McGregor became a meme.  Boxing fans celebrated acting all like ‘we’re better’.  I think that’s what Dana White wants to avoid.  It would be a different story if somehow McGregor made it into a really close fight tho.  We’d prolly see more cross overs.

I don't think so, but it depends how well they do. I thought Connor did pretty good in that fight, far better than I expected anyway. Heavyweight UFC is pretty much just boxing anyway. It's rare it goes to the ground and everyone was surprised by Francis' takedowns. Even if they lose they've always got the excuse to fall back on that they're not boxers but it's more eyeballs on both sports regardless. Francis against Tyson just needs to go for that killer knock out which he's entirely capable of. Can you image if he lands one of his best on Tyson? If Wilder can floor him then so can Ngannou. I'd love to see this fight.

Now if Ngannou walks away, I don’t think he’ll be doing as well financially as he will be if he stays with the UFC.  He’ll be like Fedor.

100% disagree. Like Welsh said, one fight with Fury will likely net him more than his entire UFC career. If Connor can get 30-100 million for fighting Mayweather and Dillian Whyte can get 7 mil for fighting Fury I think Francis can easy get 10 million for a Tyson fight.

Seriously, yeah...  Ngannou prolly is thinking of getting as much money now while he’s still at the top.  But the problem is I think the UFC can’t give him a better deal than what he wants.  I agree that they should pay him more but what if he’s asking a lot more than what the UFC is willing to give?

I don't think Francis is asking for too much. I think he just wants more than 500k and the option to fight in a boxing match. Give him a guaranteed 1 million a fight with a cut of the PPVs and let him box with it being a UFC-cross promo like the Mayweather fight and I'm sure he'll be happy. If Brock Lesner can get $2.5 million for fighting Mark Hunt back in 2016 then Ngannou should be able to get something similar. UFC is far bigger now than it was back then as well. Dana really needs to get it sorted because he's going to lose arguably the best heavyweight on the planet if he doesn't cough up the dough. Surely they'll lose more in the long-run by letting him go.

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I don't think Francis is asking for too much. I think he just wants more than 500k and the option to fight in a boxing match. Give him a guaranteed 1 million a fight with a cut of the PPVs and let him box with it being a UFC-cross promo like the Mayweather fight and I'm sure he'll be happy. If Brock Lesner can get $2.5 million for fighting Mark Hunt back in 2016 then Ngannou should be able to get something similar. UFC is far bigger now than it was back then as well. Dana really needs to get it sorted because he's going to lose arguably the best heavyweight on the planet if he doesn't cough up the dough. Surely they'll lose more in the long-run by letting him go.

sure thing. it's just what Ngannou wants, an opportunity like the rest of the fighters who are winning the money they deserve.

hard to say Ngannou will still get it after all the coverage of thier dispute on many interviews. i come across a video in which Dana going to be suing Ngannou, i'm not sure if its true but it's going to give him leverage.  the pride is also going to make it hard for Dana to calm down.

[eaLiTy]

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Now, if Ngannou, and Jones was a reality, and it did happen. I expect Jones to command the biggest paycheck, but I would absolutely expect both fighters to be getting more than the average. So, while I want Francis to remain in the UFC, if he only cares about money, then the only logical thing to do would be to go to boxing.

The sole reason Jon Jones is not fighting for a long time is because he demanded more money to move to Heavyweight division and Dana White was not budging and he was not willing to give anything further than what is contracted. Even Francis Ngannou in a recent interview with Ariel Helwani said his problem is not with the money the UFC is offering but the freedom he gets with the contract. Francis Ngannou gets a fixed amount of 600k win or loose and he will be getting PPV revenue as well which will be much higher than the fixed pay he gets considering he is a main event fighter.

For example for UFC 229 Khabib Nurmagomedov got a fixed payment of $2 million and Conor McGregor got a fixed pay of $3 million but the total amount Khabib Nurmagomedov got for UFC 229 including PPV in revenue is around $40 million and Conor McGregor made around $50 million.

[YuginKadoya]

Yeah, he knows he's probably got about three more years in him before he passes his peak. He's either going to re-sign or just run his contract down then do what he wants. There's no guarantee Tyson will fight him though as he's going to be a busy boy this year. After Whyte and then probably AJ or Usyk who is there left for him? Tyson/Ngannou would be a good retirement fight for both of them I think.

Francis Ngannou will sure continue fighting, and we don't really know if he's still a fighter on UFC when 2022 ends, but the highly unlikely that he is not on good terms with Dana White is really showing off, even though Dana White denies the allegation, but yeah a great exhibition match between the two heavyweights will be a good retirement for them, but they need to plan well their good 3 years as a fighter before retiring,

I don't think Francis is asking for too much. I think he just wants more than 500k and the option to fight in a boxing match. Give him a guaranteed 1 million a fight with a cut of the PPVs and let him box with it being a UFC-cross promo like the Mayweather fight and I'm sure he'll be happy. If Brock Lesner can get $2.5 million for fighting Mark Hunt back in 2016 then Ngannou should be able to get something similar. UFC is far bigger now than it was back then as well. Dana really needs to get it sorted because he's going to lose arguably the best heavyweight on the planet if he doesn't cough up the dough. Surely they'll lose more in the long-run by letting him go.

Yup! I agree Francis Ngannou just wants freedom and that is why he doesn't want to sign his contract because it could be a Shackle for him not to do what he wants, if Dana White can't provide higher pay for his fight then he will do something about it by providing him a cross fight rather than obliging him to just fight in the octagon, there is a huge opportunity outside the octagon and he wants to grab it and if some fighters can do it so why can't he,

Right now I am not excited about the February 6 event but I am more excited about UFC 271 the much-anticipated fight Israel Adesanya VS Robert Whittaker, Derrick Lewis VS Tai Tuivasa, and Jared Cannonier VS Derek Brunson, and the next fight the UFC Fight Night: Dos Anjos VS Fiziev, and the fights that I think worth to watch out are Rafael Dos Anjos VS Rafael Fiziev, Jhonny Walker VS Jamahal Hill,  Jessica Rose Clark VS Stephanie Egger and Chas Skelly VS Mark Striegl,

I know this is too soon to make discussion but I surely can't wait to make predictions, analysis, and to watch their fights so badly.

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Dana should begin paying his women fighters more money or we might witness much of them open an onlyfans.com account for extra income hehehe. Did everyone watch Kay Hansen during UFC 270? She has an onlyfans.com account.

https://onlyfans.com/kayhansenmma

There are some of those pictures in Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KayHansenNSFW/

Jessica Andrade also has an account in onlyfans.com, however, I will not share this because it might cause very scary nightmares hehehehe.

I absolutely agree that the girls should be paid more, but speaking of Kay Hansen, she hasn't created an account on onlyfans.com to make money with it. As she said it in an interview cited here, "I've had fun on it. For me it was mainly about kind of stepping out of my comfort zone." So, it's more about having fun to her than getting $15-$20 tips for semi-nude photos from the site users.

Jessica Andrade, on the other hand, said "the profits she made from the site had paid off her house and car loans", cited here as well.

I think for the most part people are paying for subscription and tipping not because they can't google and see all those photos for free, but because they just want to support their object of adoration. ... But, yeah, no matter what, the girls should be paid more, that's for sure.

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As much as I love to continue to chit chat and talk about fighter pay, we have a new event this coming weekend.  Let’s try to  win a little something for ourselves first before worrying about what they’re getting.    But yeah, I do get it.  It’s becoming a serious issue.

Anyway who you guys got?  At first glance of the match ups, it’s very chalky and looks like it will be a parlayable card.  The faves should win.  There could be pie sh*tters tho...  Like Hawes, can’t really trust his chin and gas tank vs Alvey.  And the matches I’m looking most forward to are Shavkat Rakhmanov vs Carlston Harris and Punahele Soriano vs Nick Maximov.  Should be good.  

Date:  Saturday, Feb 5
Main Card (ESPN/ESPN+):  6:00pm EST
Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+):  4:00pm EST
Venue:  UFC Apex, Las Vegas, Nevada
Live Streams:



Main Card (ESPN/ESPN+)
Middleweight:  Jack Hermansson vs Sean Strickland            
Middleweight:  Punahele Soriano vs Nick Maximov            
Welterweight:  Shavkat Rakhmanov vs Carlston Harris            
Middleweight:  Sam Alvey vs Phil Hawes            
Middleweight:  Tresean Gore vs Bryan Battle            
Featherweight:  Julian Erosa vs Steven Peterson

Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+)
Bantamweight:  Miles Johns vs John Castaneda            
Featherweight:  Hakeem Dawodu vs Michael Trizano            
Middleweight:  Chidi Njokuani vs Marc-André Barriault            
Welterweight:  Jason Witt vs Phillip Rowe            
Women's Bantamweight:  Alexis Davis vs Julija Stoliarenko            
Light Heavyweight:  Jailton Almeida vs Danilo Marques            
Flyweight:  Malcolm Gordon vs Denys Bondar