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I have no idea what's wrong with UFC referees, how they score. Piblett's victory was predicted by many, so they bet on it, Gorgon had a much better fight, while waiting for him to win, an interesting decision came from the referees. The bettors are happy with this result, at least they got their money back.
In the Ankalaev-Blachowicz match, I definitely gave the 1,4 and 5 rounds to Ankalaev when I watched the match. I never expected a draw. Speaking to Ankalaev at the end of the match, Joe rogen said that me and DC said you would win, that's what we were thinking. The referees decided to draw, what do you think? Blowhovich interrupted and said you should give him his belt. What an honorable and honest man, I respect him more now.
Blowhovich proved how strong he is, both as a character and as a Warrior. He was close to finishing the match with his low kicks, I wonder if he would have finished it if he had put more pressure when he had such a chance.
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To me, its more surprising, Ankalaev didn't try harder to takedown in the first rounds as he can do it to avoid leg kicks. Or perhaps Błachowicz is just too big to take down so he had to wait for Błacho to be exhausted. Nevertheless that 2 rounds of controlling Blacho would be enough to make a win. Not a very convincing draw decision still. Who could have bet draw this fight, all the money are taken from us.
And surely those legs of Jan Blachowicz were made of steel for Ankalaev to stumble and almost break his left leg I think this gave Ankalaev a lot of problems in taking down Blachowicz, it should be a win for Magomed Ankalaev in my opinion if you if we look at the significant strike and total strikes for the fight we can see that Ankalaev had the volume and the takedown controls Ankalaev is really dominating aswell, but those Leg kicks from Blachowicz has made Ankalaev incapacitated and become slow for Blchowicz to catch up to Ankalaev, but if Ankalaev would just result with the takedowns early on the round I think he can win it, this is combat sambo when they are near a fence it will likely be effective on those circumstances, but again maybe Ankalaev is waiting for Blachowicz to get exhausted, Thos two last fights were just epic, a lot of people bet on Paddy, and was a surprise to see him winning because we all know the other guy did a better job. And the draw on Ankalaev was just cruel, wasn't easy to see him walking away with tears in his eyes, he deserves that belt.
And something weird happen to me, I placed a parlay with Rosas, Paddy and Ankalaev, And since Ankalaev Draw I think my parlay lost, but it just doesn't pay for that match and get as valid multis the other 2 fights for a x1.8 win in my bet, so, that feels nice.
I surely believe that the Ankalaev VS Blachowicz fight should be a win for Ankalaev, while I really think Ankalaev had so much to show and has the advantage on the ground, unfortunately, his stand-up failed him, so badly that a kick from Blachowicz gets him unbalanced and if continue may get him injuring his left leg, that continues kick to the left leg have made Magomed Ankalaev unbalanced and wobble this is why those takedowns from Ankalaev and submission attempt is not a viable option, what a guy Blachowicz but surely this is still a win for Magomed Ankalaev in my opinion, the Paddy Pimblett fight should be the draw result, and not this one, the judges are kind of not favoring the Russian to win,
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December 11, 2022, 10:48:35 PM |
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I have no idea what's wrong with UFC referees, how they score. Piblett's victory was predicted by many, so they bet on it, Gorgon had a much better fight, while waiting for him to win, an interesting decision came from the referees. The bettors are happy with this result, at least they got their money back.
In the Ankalaev-Blachowicz match, I definitely gave the 1,4 and 5 rounds to Ankalaev when I watched the match. I never expected a draw. Speaking to Ankalaev at the end of the match, Joe rogen said that me and DC said you would win, that's what we were thinking. The referees decided to draw, what do you think? Blowhovich interrupted and said you should give him his belt. What an honorable and honest man, I respect him more now.
Blowhovich proved how strong he is, both as a character and as a Warrior. He was close to finishing the match with his low kicks, I wonder if he would have finished it if he had put more pressure when he had such a chance.
Blachowicz is a really humbel and great fighter he is my favourite he always respect his opponent i agree uft referees hd created a lot of confusion lately and a lot of bad decisions lately especially that peter yan and omaley fight still it was a great fight yesterday still lot of gamblers lost am afraid since a draw in ufc is really rare.
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December 12, 2022, 01:06:22 AM |
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I have no idea what's wrong with UFC referees, how they score. Piblett's victory was predicted by many, so they bet on it, Gorgon had a much better fight, while waiting for him to win, an interesting decision came from the referees. The bettors are happy with this result, at least they got their money back.
In the Ankalaev-Blachowicz match, I definitely gave the 1,4 and 5 rounds to Ankalaev when I watched the match. I never expected a draw. Speaking to Ankalaev at the end of the match, Joe rogen said that me and DC said you would win, that's what we were thinking. The referees decided to draw, what do you think? Blowhovich interrupted and said you should give him his belt. What an honorable and honest man, I respect him more now.
Blowhovich proved how strong he is, both as a character and as a Warrior. He was close to finishing the match with his low kicks, I wonder if he would have finished it if he had put more pressure when he had such a chance.
Magomed Ankalaev got absolutely robbed in this fight decision. In my opinion, that decision should have been rendered in his favor. Even if someone is not a very big fan of MMA, and he, just for some reason, likes to see the scorecard once in a while, if you show him the scorecard, even that person is going to say that this fight should have been gone to Ankalaev win. The judges are certainly making some stupid decisions currently. Both this and the Paddy Pimblett decision were absolutely rubbish. This is going to have a negative effect on UFC in my opinion. If someone has not seen this fight, I really suggest that go see the fight, and after that tell us how this is a draw!
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December 12, 2022, 04:04:37 AM |
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Magomed Ankalaev got absolutely robbed in this fight decision. In my opinion, that decision should have been rendered in his favor. Even if someone is not a very big fan of MMA, and he, just for some reason, likes to see the scorecard once in a while, if you show him the scorecard, even that person is going to say that this fight should have been gone to Ankalaev win.
The judges are certainly making some stupid decisions currently. Both this and the Paddy Pimblett decision were absolutely rubbish. This is going to have a negative effect on UFC in my opinion. If someone has not seen this fight, I really suggest that go see the fight, and after that tell us how this is a draw!
I was also really frustrated with the results if you look at the paper you will see that Magomed Ankalaev really won that fight but surely Ankalaev should go out there and not let the judges decide for him, but surely Magomed Ankalaev left leg might be hurt because of the leg kicks Blachowicz has given him so there is really some damage to Ankalaev and not mostly dominating the ground, Blachowicz is a really humbel and great fighter he is my favourite he always respect his opponent i agree uft referees hd created a lot of confusion lately and a lot of bad decisions lately especially that peter yan and omaley fight still it was a great fight yesterday still lot of gamblers lost am afraid since a draw in ufc is really rare.
Dana White was upset about what happened in the main event implying that the main event was terrible but he is not slamming the judge's poor judgment many are not really happy including me he said just like the Co-Main Paddy Pimblett VS Anthony Gordon fight many are not really happy with the judging but Dana White is just saying who are we to judge the fight and say who really wins, his giving incentives to all fighters who finish their fight via KO or submission and saying that Ankalaev got rocked in the 1st 2 rounds so he needs to go out there and finish the fight just like the Santiago Ponzinibbio VS Alex Morono fight Ponzinibbio was rocked on the 1st and 2nd round but he got back up and finished the fight like a real stud, and not letting the judge be the one to decide who won, but he has given win money for Alex Morono as well, so the vacant Light Heavyweight Championship he will do a Glover Teixeira VS Jamahal Hill, next main event,
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December 12, 2022, 05:05:18 AM |
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Well as I can see there's few users complaining if Ankalaev should win the fight and few users also say if Blachowicz is more deserved, this mean the judges are right to score it draw because it's really hard to make decision which one is the winner. While Paddy Pimblett I have no idea since it should be draw too, when it's really hard to judge, draw is the best option.
It seems many people are loss their bets in this fight, draw is very hard to happen in UFC.
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Magomed Ankalaev got absolutely robbed in this fight decision. In my opinion, that decision should have been rendered in his favor. Even if someone is not a very big fan of MMA, and he, just for some reason, likes to see the scorecard once in a while, if you show him the scorecard, even that person is going to say that this fight should have been gone to Ankalaev win.
The judges are certainly making some stupid decisions currently. Both this and the Paddy Pimblett decision were absolutely rubbish. This is going to have a negative effect on UFC in my opinion. If someone has not seen this fight, I really suggest that go see the fight, and after that tell us how this is a draw!
I can't believe that the judges made stupid decisions in both fights, anyone can judge that Ankalaev deserved the victory because he almost dominated every round of the fight, even when the referee decided the winner then Błachowicz stretched out his hand like saying "I admit defeat" but he was also surprised that the decision what was announced was a draw. The Paddy vs Gordon fight was also robbery, so the decision was very unsportsmanlike if the judges sided with one of the fighters. So I think Russian fighters should win the fight by knockout, if they don't win by knockout then it will be difficult for them to win the belt. IMO.
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I can't believe that the judges made stupid decisions in both fights, anyone can judge that Ankalaev deserved the victory because he almost dominated every round of the fight, even when the referee decided the winner then Błachowicz stretched out his hand like saying "I admit defeat" but he was also surprised that the decision what was announced was a draw. The Paddy vs Gordon fight was also robbery, so the decision was very unsportsmanlike if the judges sided with one of the fighters. So I think Russian fighters should win the fight by knockout, if they don't win by knockout then it will be difficult for them to win the belt. IMO.
Those who have actually seen both fights, and also say anything from an unbiased perspective, are always going to say that both of these fights should have gone the other way. And this is honestly a truly unbiased opinion from me. I do not care who puts how much money into which fighter, I just want to see a good skillful fight. And I think that’s what both of these fights were. And I know both of these fights were close. But not so close that the judges make such a huge mistake of making these types of decisions. When you have one fighter significantly outperforming the other, a draw is not the best option.
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UFC Fight Night: Cannonier vs. StricklandDate: December 17, 2022 Main Card: SUN, DEC 18 / 2:00 AM EET Prelims: SAT, DEC 17 / 11:00 PM EET Venue: UFC Apex Main card (ESPN+)Middleweight: Jared Cannonier vs. Sean Strickland Lightweight: Arman Tsarukyan vs. Damir Ismagulov Flyweight: Amir Albazi vs. Alessandro Costa Featherweight: Alex Caceres vs. Julian Erosa Lightweight: Drew Dober vs. Bobby Green Middleweight: Michał Oleksiejczuk vs. Cody Brundage Preliminary card (ESPN+)Women's Strawweight: Cheyanne Vlismas vs. Cory McKenna Welterweight: Jake Matthews vs. Matthew Semelsberger Middleweight: Julian Marquez vs. Deron Winn Bantamweight: Said Nurmagomedov vs. Saidyokub Kakhramonov Lightweight: Rafa García vs. Hayisaer Maheshate Welterweight: Rinat Fakhretdinov vs. Bryan Battle Flyweight: Manel Kape vs. David Dvořák Bantamweight: Sergey Morozov vs. Journey Newson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_Fight_Night:_Cannonier_vs._Strickland Not a bad roster for a Fight Night to end the year for the UFC. It's gonna be around three weeks - almost a month before the next event. I'm excited to make another lottery ticket after winning three from 182. At lesst I have a little bit of money to bet around here and the World Cup semis. Match ups I'm looking forward to are Nurmagomedov vs Kakhramonov which should be in the main card imho, Kape vs Dvorak, Tsarukyan vs Ismagulov and the main event. This event also looks more parlayable... So hope I can win some again.
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Well as I can see there's few users complaining if Ankalaev should win the fight and few users also say if Blachowicz is more deserved, this mean the judges are right to score it draw because it's really hard to make decision which one is the winner. While Paddy Pimblett I have no idea since it should be draw too, when it's really hard to judge, draw is the best option.
It seems many people are loss their bets in this fight, draw is very hard to happen in UFC.
There is something wrong with the decision and many are just upset about it I think it is pretty much normal for some to be frustrated after the judges ruined their bets but for me even though I have bet for Paddy Pimblett I guess Jared Gordon win this match but surely enough but judges knowing what they are doing surely given Pimblett a win, which next time for fighters that don't trust the judge wins the fight with a KO or submission because Dana White thinks the judges are doing the right thing, I can't believe that the judges made stupid decisions in both fights, anyone can judge that Ankalaev deserved the victory because he almost dominated every round of the fight, even when the referee decided the winner then Błachowicz stretched out his hand like saying "I admit defeat" but he was also surprised that the decision what was announced was a draw. The Paddy vs Gordon fight was also robbery, so the decision was very unsportsmanlike if the judges sided with one of the fighters. So I think Russian fighters should win the fight by knockout, if they don't win by knockout then it will be difficult for them to win the belt. IMO.
Both fights are really controversial but Dana White doesn't want to take legal action because if the judges have been proven to not do their job properly it is a federal prison for them, judges, so the solution to this problem is just winning the fight via KO and submission, nothing more no other option for fighters to have an accurate win and not letting the judges decide on who won the fight, And for the many controversial fights that end up with a judge's decision next time pursue a fight that you can finish with a KO or submission because there is no stopping the unreliable judges, for now,
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And for the many controversial fights that end up with a judge's decision next time pursue a fight that you can finish with a KO or submission because there is no stopping the unreliable judges, for now,
Not a bad idea. At the very least I think that they could probably extend these fights a little more. Paddy even said that he felt he was the winner of the first two rounds so round 3 he just danced around and tried to maintain his victory. Make it a 6 round fight and I think the winner would be much more obvious. Just like the Suga Sean O'Malley fight, Paddy seemingly was nearing the end of what he had in the tank by round 3. 3 more rounds and it would have been very clear for the referees who the winner was. I'm not sure why Sean and Paddy are getting such short 3 round fights, but I'd like to see them extended so we can actually see a fight...
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And for the many controversial fights that end up with a judge's decision next time pursue a fight that you can finish with a KO or submission because there is no stopping the unreliable judges, for now,
Not a bad idea. At the very least I think that they could probably extend these fights a little more. Paddy even said that he felt he was the winner of the first two rounds so round 3 he just danced around and tried to maintain his victory. Make it a 6 round fight and I think the winner would be much more obvious. Just like the Suga Sean O'Malley fight, Paddy seemingly was nearing the end of what he had in the tank by round 3. 3 more rounds and it would have been very clear for the referees who the winner was. I'm not sure why Sean and Paddy are getting such short 3 round fights, but I'd like to see them extended so we can actually see a fight... Bad decision-making is always a pain in the ass ever since they are involved in the fight business. I would like to see 5 judges on different sides of the octagon. 3 rounds are also too short for non-main event fights. The time gap between non-main events and main events is 10 minutes. So it's like becoming a champion is a whole different level because they are fighting for 25 minutes compared to 15 minutes. The televised time will probably become a problem so maybe they can make it 5 rounds for any fights which involved a top 5 fighter.
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I remember Pride or Dream (or some of old promotions) had specific rules: like if during fight time there is no obvious winner, then extra round is given, then another. If by the end of two extra rounds there is still no winner, then its a draw. I dont remember how exactly that rule sound, but it was like to win you must KO/TKO/submit your opponent, otherwise it will be a draw, as basically they dont count rounds and points. In short - kill or die. It was the Asian promotion, I remember that clearly. Such rule might work, but it hurts entertainment factor, because after 15-20min exhausted fighters mostly fight for oxygen, then their opponent.
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I remember Pride or Dream (or some of old promotions) had specific rules: like if during fight time there is no obvious winner, then extra round is given, then another. If by the end of two extra rounds there is still no winner, then its a draw. I dont remember how exactly that rule sound, but it was like to win you must KO/TKO/submit your opponent, otherwise it will be a draw, as basically they dont count rounds and points. In short - kill or die. It was the Asian promotion, I remember that clearly. Such rule might work, but it hurts entertainment factor, because after 15-20min exhausted fighters mostly fight for oxygen, then their opponent.
Kinda like basketball. There has to be a winner and a tie-breaker is supposed to be provided to make sure someone has to win. It can't be called "ultimate" if it's not extreme. But maybe that rule was scratched out because combat sport is becoming mainstream and legitimized so the savage rules are now observed. If another round was added, Jan will more than likely lose and many of us will win. Either submission or decision at least the people who like and bet on this match are not robbed as well.
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I remember Pride or Dream (or some of old promotions) had specific rules: like if during fight time there is no obvious winner, then extra round is given, then another. If by the end of two extra rounds there is still no winner, then its a draw. I dont remember how exactly that rule sound, but it was like to win you must KO/TKO/submit your opponent, otherwise it will be a draw, as basically they dont count rounds and points. In short - kill or die. It was the Asian promotion, I remember that clearly. Such rule might work, but it hurts entertainment factor, because after 15-20min exhausted fighters mostly fight for oxygen, then their opponent.
Kinda like basketball. There has to be a winner and a tie-breaker is supposed to be provided to make sure someone has to win. It can't be called "ultimate" if it's not extreme. But maybe that rule was scratched out because combat sport is becoming mainstream and legitimized so the savage rules are now observed. If another round was added, Jan will more than likely lose and many of us will win. Either submission or decision at least the people who like and bet on this match are not robbed as well. Maybe they need a better method for breaking a tie. Like a shootout in hockey or soccer. Maybe both fighters stand face to face and slap the shit out of each other until one of them gives up. Then you might not see fighters wasting time or clenching to get their decision victory. I don’t actually think this is a good idea, but something needs to be done about horrible judges playing favorites for whatever reason.
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Maybe they need a better method for breaking a tie. Like a shootout in hockey or soccer. Maybe both fighters stand face to face and slap the shit out of each other until one of them gives up. Then you might not see fighters wasting time or clenching to get their decision victory. I don’t actually think this is a good idea, but something needs to be done about horrible judges playing favorites for whatever reason.
What's different with UFC since they've fixed round and time about the fight, the round wouldn't get extended since there's a referee will stop it. The difference is hockey or soccer is transparent to show the score, while in UFC each judges doesn't show their scorecard until the match end. I don't think UFC will accept slap competition that you propose because there's already an official slap fighting championship.
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I remember Pride or Dream (or some of old promotions) had specific rules: like if during fight time there is no obvious winner, then extra round is given, then another. If by the end of two extra rounds there is still no winner, then its a draw. I dont remember how exactly that rule sound, but it was like to win you must KO/TKO/submit your opponent, otherwise it will be a draw, as basically they dont count rounds and points. In short - kill or die. It was the Asian promotion, I remember that clearly. Such rule might work, but it hurts entertainment factor, because after 15-20min exhausted fighters mostly fight for oxygen, then their opponent.
Kinda like basketball. There has to be a winner and a tie-breaker is supposed to be provided to make sure someone has to win. It can't be called "ultimate" if it's not extreme. But maybe that rule was scratched out because combat sport is becoming mainstream and legitimized so the savage rules are now observed. If another round was added, Jan will more than likely lose and many of us will win. Either submission or decision at least the people who like and bet on this match are not robbed as well. Another round could be possible, if that was a 3-round fight. But since it was a 5-round title; I think non of last 15 years UFC fighters ever prepared for a 6-rounded fight. Btw we have completely missed or forgot to discuss Raul Rosas Jr. fight in UFC 282. The think is not about the fight, but about the kid. He was only 17 when UFC signed him. Kid is the youngest fighter in UFC history to win a fight I liked how he copied McGregors "Dana! 50 g's BABYYYY!"
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Hey guys, time to focus on the next event and share some notes from a betting perspective. And that's all that's all that should matter imho. Well... That and watching these guys throw leather. So yeah... And here's a couple of vids to watch. I'm thinking Stickland isn't ready to face a guy like Cannonier after getting KO'd just a couple of months ago. UFC Free Fight: Cannonier vs Hermanssonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGB5NZ5W1aEUFC Free Fight: Strickland vs Allenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdcac2kn0DMHere's the Multi Master. It's free money. Let's get it! UFC Fight Night 216 - Multi Master Challengehttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5428097.0I'm also gonna drop my degen parlay some time this week. Hopefully we win some again.
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From all MMA news I saw that Conor McGregor is removed from official UFC rankings, that just shows how relevant he is in MMA at the moment. For this weekend we have last UFC event in this year and Jared Cannonier vs Sean Strickland should be interesting main event to watch. It's hard to predict a winner here but I would give slight advantage to Cannonier, but there are no real favorite in this fight. My main bet for this event is on Khabib's cousin Said Nurmagomedov to win against Saidyokub Kakhramonov, and odds are very good.
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