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Author Topic: @theymos is it true that you forced OG to remove Laudas tagg ?  (Read 1500 times)
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May 06, 2019, 08:03:21 AM
Last edit: May 06, 2019, 08:39:00 AM by Thule
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Some DT members claim you forced OG to remove Laudas negative tag or he would get blacklisted.

I thought you are not interacting with members feedback ?

If its true how does it come you force people to remove negative tags on serious accusations and at the same time allow abuse for nothing ?



 
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May 06, 2019, 08:59:29 AM
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I think this should be in reputation.
Actually, I think this should be a pm lol

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May 06, 2019, 09:13:51 AM
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I think this should be in reputation.
Actually, I think this should be a pm lol
I made it.
{c} Where to create Trust Appeal?
It is the Reputation child board. Most of users create their Trust Appeals in Meta board, that is wrong, because such things related to Trust don't relate to forum issues. Therefore, it is clearly not belong to Meta board.
Please create your Trust Appeal in Reputation child board
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May 06, 2019, 09:39:23 AM
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It would have helped if Thule linked references in their post. I would assume this is related to this here in the back and forth between VOD and OG.

It's not Thules personal grievance with their trust this time, it's an inquiry into what if anything went on behind he scenes with the older DT crowd, their feedback and theymos. So it does make sense to have it here in Meta I think.

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May 06, 2019, 11:16:30 AM
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Some DT members claim you forced OG to remove Laudas negative tag or he would get blacklisted.

I guess this lies solely on Theymos whom he decide to blacklist in DT.
So whatever is happening between 2 DT , do not compel theymos to do anything until theymos himself wishes to blacklist the users.

I thought you are not interacting with members feedback ?
Till now , I did not read anywhere that theymos interfered .


Now OP, this is regarding your other thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139852.0

I like to remind you , if you are going to act on that thread then you are going to break the forum rules.

2. It is not allowed to post someone's dox if it is especially obvious that you're just using the dox as a weapon. For example, if there are no remotely-plausible trade complaints, then the person can't be a scammer, and their dox should not be posted.

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May 06, 2019, 11:16:38 AM
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Well, this should be enough or not?

If theymos really forced OG to remove Laudas tagg

He did not.

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May 06, 2019, 11:35:39 AM
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It would have helped if Thule linked references in their post. I would assume this is related to this here in the back and forth between VOD and OG.
Yep, it would definitely help--but you can't expect Thule to do anything except spread a rumor with no evidence to back it up.  There's nothing in that link which suggests Theymos got involved, and I wouldn't expect him to.  It would actually be quite a shocker if he did do something like that after all the drama Lauda has been the center of, with no intervention except for removing Lauda from his/her moderator position. 

Trust isn't moderated, and I don't think Theymos has ever stepped in to resolve a feud like this.  Hopefully he never will.

Thule is now going on ignore, joining cryptohunter and his most recent alt (the-one-below-all or whatever it is).  I'm tired of this constant nonsense.

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May 06, 2019, 11:53:14 AM
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Well, this should be enough or not? ~snip~

Probably should have been. Although having perused those threads a bit certain comments definitely give the impression otherwise. I'm not calling anyone a liar, and would have loved to see them just bury the hatchet and ignore each other.

~snip~
Yep, it would definitely help--but you can't expect Thule to do anything except spread a rumor with no evidence to back it up.  There's nothing in that link which suggests Theymos got involved, and I wouldn't expect him to.  It would actually be quite a shocker if he did do something like that after all the drama Lauda has been the center of, with no intervention except for removing Lauda from his/her moderator position.  

Trust isn't moderated, and I don't think Theymos has ever stepped in to resolve a feud like this.  Hopefully he never will.~snip~

I disagree with there being nothing that suggests it. I've tried to ignore the fact that 2 long established trusted members had been slinging mud back and forth. Unfortunately it's hard not to look and check. There's only 1 person I'm aware of that can blacklist someone from DT. Vod is asking OG to make that statement, in an effort prove he lied behind the reasoning of the feedback changes. So really it's a comment that may be taken out of context but there were a few others that had me wondering about this.

I'm still of the belief that theymos would not interfere, and maybe I read to much into the remarks but that's the impression I got from it; so it did leave me curious. I've generally expected nothing more than to encourage people to bury the hatchet, but not impose consequences. I assumed if the accusation went on long enough there would be some comment or record setting remark made.

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May 06, 2019, 12:06:56 PM
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Well, this should be enough or not?
If theymos really forced OG to remove Laudas tagg
He did not.
Case closed Smiley

Theymos can remove any feedback he wants, he doesn't need anyone's permission to moderate trust. But theymos believes in decentralization, so why would he?
With my custom Trust list, theymos himself has red trust from Xian01. This user is not on DT, so most people won't see it.
I love how Admin here gives anyone the possibility to speak his mind, even if it's against him.

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May 06, 2019, 12:07:53 PM
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Well, this should be enough or not?

If theymos really forced OG to remove Laudas tagg

He did not.

This. Please lock the thread now.

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May 06, 2019, 12:34:33 PM
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Just to finally nailed it >

Taken from one of CH's countless threads...
My opinion is that I'm not going to waste time reading your huge, rambly, low-content posts which you post everywhere.

Skimming:
 - Dash is a shitcoin, like the vast majority of altcoins, but I've heard absolutely nothing which makes me think that it's a scam on the whole.
 - Lauda has engaged in some behavior which I consider unethical or sub-optimal, but she's also done several good things. It's not for me to decide how her actions weigh out on net.
 - Suchmoon is an excellent forum member.

This now should be enough as an answer.

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May 06, 2019, 12:51:13 PM
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I think it might be an idea if theymos perhaps temporarily removes the ability to start a new thread from Thule & CH + Alts.

Meta is full of paranoid rubbish constructed by the same weird posters time & time again.

Would anybody else agree with me here? They start new threads regularly about the sake crap all the tike. Is anybody else fee up of seeing their names as thread starters in Meta?

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May 06, 2019, 12:59:30 PM
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At the end of the day theymos is human, I think. They can input their human opinions to anyone to do something. It would be different if theymos forced them with a threat, or forced them by doing it themselves.

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May 06, 2019, 01:08:06 PM
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Some DT members claim you forced OG to remove Laudas negative tag or he would get blacklisted.
Making such statements is the reason why you are always getting a backlash from members.
Zero evidence and zero reference links and yet you rushed in to open a thread about some serious matter. People eventually start to think that everything you say is a very big joke.

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May 06, 2019, 01:35:19 PM
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My reading of the situation based on the available facts from the various parties is that one of the following happened:

(In order of likelihood)

Theymos threatened both OgN and lauda with a DT1 blacklist if they didn’t remove the negative rating for the other

OgN and lauda both agreed to remove the others negative rating if the other removed his rating against the other

I am not sure if others would consider the first scenario as theymos “forcing” OgN to remove his rating (there is a strong argument to say that “force” is not an accurate adjective to describe what happened), however the first scenario would theymos absolutely putting his “thumb on the scale” towards getting lauda rating removed.

If the argument to tip the scale towards lauda has to do with the many ratings he received since his behavior that showed his untrustworthiness, I would argue this is another flaw in the trust system in that someone who selectively scams who has a lot of supporters who are conflicted will consistently show up as trustworthy, regardless of what they do.

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Lauda removed my rating, and I then gave Lauda an ultimatum if my forgiveness is to be earned.  Lauda chose to make a promise and I will hold Lauda to that promise.  I believe this was the best way to eliminate questionable actions moving forward.  If I am proven wrong, changes will be made.  I think after so many years, a new approach might be beneficial to everyone.

OGnasty removed his rating towards Lauda so he wouldn't be restricted from future DT1 membership - it has nothing to do with peace or control of Lauda.  It was out of his control.

Unless you want everyone believe that this wave of forgiveness just suddenly was created by you?  OG seems to be the only one receiving punishment and still making it look like he is the good guy.

 Wink

DT1 member VOD clearly said that OG removed his negative feedback to avoid restrictions.Later he quotes about blacklisting.

 
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@thule, you are a pleb - the 2 memebers in question are not. so what the fuck has it got to do with you if Theymos wants less issues on DT?

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May 06, 2019, 03:10:46 PM
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if this is true its good news,theymos is taking actions against abusive members it would be nice if not only lauda,but most of his abusive gang members.
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May 06, 2019, 03:30:22 PM
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Theymos have full control over this forum, if he wants to see a feedback removed, he just need to click button "Remove" rather than wasting his time to blackmail feedback sender Tongue

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May 06, 2019, 03:38:49 PM
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if this is true its good news,theymos is taking actions against abusive members it would be nice if not only lauda,but most of his abusive gang members.
The action, if true, was done in favor of lauda...

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