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July 03, 2019, 05:26:26 PM Last edit: July 03, 2019, 05:54:36 PM by JSRAW |
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Pakistan is virtually out. Source : cricbuzz For Pakistan to qualify: Beat Bangladesh by 311 runs after scoring 350 Beat Bangladesh by 316 runs after scoring 400 Beat Bangladesh by 321 runs after scoring 450 If Bangladesh opt to bat first on Friday, Pakistan stand eliminated even before a ball is bowled.
Now fight is in between Aussie and India for No 1 spot. As of now Oz and India leading the table with 14 and 13 points respectively and they both have 1 match to go against the SA and Srilanka. Possible scenario.Oz will face kiwis in Manchester and India vs England is in the same ground (Birmingham) where England already beat India convincingly in the last encounter. Alternative scenarioIf South Africa wins against Australia in last playoff game, then its different ball game. In Social Media, every cricket experts were saying that for winning the world cup you need to beat India :
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July 03, 2019, 05:50:28 PM |
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Yes, we are changing with changing conditions. At the start of match i was hoping for the England loss so that there is no run rate headache when we play the match with Bangladesh. But since England made a brilliant start and now with NZ two wickets down, i am now looking for a England win with a big margin, maybe by 100 runs. Even if NZ lose to ENG with a big margin, I doubt PAK will be able to qualify for the semi because- 1. It will not be easy to beat Bangladesh 2. NZ nrr is +0.57 & PAK nrr is -0.79, a difference of 1.22 almost, and the difference after this match will not be less than 0.50, I guess although I'm not sure how this is calculated, in the end, NZ nrr will be high. Our slogan now, "We have been sunk, we will do the same to Pakistan as well " Kidding Can anyone who is genius to calculate how much NZ will end up with run rate if they lost with 100 runs ? You may be kidding with your Slogan, but this is the reality and most of the public think in same lines. I never understand this logic ? Wouldn't it be better if we think in a way like, " Ok We have Sunk, but we will want another Asian team progress further" ? What's is the satisfactions for Bangladesh if NZ qualifies? Pakistan is virtually out of world cup, officially they will after playing against Bangladesh, If Bangladesh play first in their match, than Pakistan won't have any chance to reach on semi final even they chase down the match in 1st ball. If pakistan bat first, they have to win over 300 runs and that is almost impossible to win against Bangladesh. Yes, that's a sad surprise. But i have one more analysis to make here NZ lost their last three matches and down in confidence and yet qualifies PAK Won the last three matches and better in confidence and unable to qualify.
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July 03, 2019, 05:51:33 PM |
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Pakistan are officially out now of WC as NZ not only lost, their RR also is positive. The best 4 teams are now in the semis fixed or not fixed Excited for the last matches and hoping India wins their last one before the semis. I can see people bet on semis too without knowing the team?
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UmerIdrees
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July 03, 2019, 05:56:44 PM |
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Pakistan are officially out now of WC as NZ not only lost, their RR also is positive. The best 4 teams are now in the semis fixed or not fixed Excited for the last matches and hoping India wins their last one before the semis. I can see people bet on semis too without knowing the team? What do you mean by Fixed or Not Fixed ? I don't think that Pakistan is capable of beating Bangladesh by 300+ runs. On the other hand, there is a real possibility that Bangladesh will pull off an upset.
Doesn't matter now if Bangladesh triggers a upset or Pakistan win by 290 runs.
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July 03, 2019, 05:58:07 PM |
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What do you mean by Fixed or Not Fixed ?
Here already people are claiming India's matches are fixed so it's for them.
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UmerIdrees
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July 03, 2019, 06:03:23 PM |
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What do you mean by Fixed or Not Fixed ?
Here already people are claiming India's matches are fixed so it's for them. I do not think Indian matches are fixed but there is a lobby (The big three) who have decided that who will win the WC. We might see a big upset in one of the semifinals.
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July 03, 2019, 06:07:45 PM |
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~snip~ We might see a big upset in one of the semifinals. England, India, Australia are top teams and can beat each others on their good day so nothing surprising or major upset here. Kiwis winning the world cup might be surprise for me.
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UmerIdrees
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July 03, 2019, 06:14:29 PM |
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~snip~ We might see a big upset in one of the semifinals. England, India, Australia are top teams and can beat each others on their good day so nothing surprising or major upset here. Kiwis winning the world cup might be surprise for me. No, Kiwi will surely be eliminated in semi finals. Hopefully !!! The Big 3 have decided that since England has not win any world cup, they will allow England to Win this world cup. So India or Australia who ever will play in Semi final will lose against England. In the Final, England will win against India or Australia . The only threat is NZ, if they qualify in final, they will try to beat England (as NZ are not the part of this plan) My post may seems foolish right now but we will come back at it later.
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Vishnu.Reang
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July 03, 2019, 06:16:57 PM |
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~snip~ We might see a big upset in one of the semifinals. England, India, Australia are top teams and can beat each others on their good day so nothing surprising or major upset here. Kiwis winning the world cup might be surprise for me. Kiwis need to win just two more matches to lift the trophy. First they need to defeat Australia during their trans-Tasman duel and then they need to beat either India or England in the finals. But considering their pathetic form during the last 2-3 matches, I would say that any chance for that happening is really low. A more realistic possibility would be England winning the world cup for the first time.
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July 03, 2019, 06:18:11 PM |
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~snip~ We might see a big upset in one of the semifinals. England, India, Australia are top teams and can beat each others on their good day so nothing surprising or major upset here. Kiwis winning the world cup might be surprise for me. Kiwi isn't going to win, at least that's what have been proved till the beginning of their world cup journey. In this world cup, their batting performance is more than poor. Only Williamson alone was struggling most of the matches. So, they aren't going to final unless a miracle happen.
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July 03, 2019, 06:25:50 PM |
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No, Kiwi will surely be eliminated in semi finals. Hopefully !!!
The Big 3 have decided that since England has not win any world cup, they will allow England to Win this world cup. So India or Australia who ever will play in Semi final will lose against England.
In the Final, England will win against India or Australia . The only threat is NZ, if they qualify in final, they will try to beat England (as NZ are not the part of this plan)
My post may seems foolish right now but we will come back at it later.
Ah Means you say that England will surely win the WC as per the plan??? Let's see then and hoping the plan misfires
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July 03, 2019, 06:40:55 PM |
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~snip~
The Big 3 have decided that since England has not win any world cup, they will allow England to Win this world cup.
Bro, conspiracy theories are a waste of time tbh. like i mentioned before (Bold part)
England, India, Australia are top teams and can beat each others on their good day so nothing surprising or major upset here. Kiwis winning the world cup might be surprise for me.
@ Vishnu.Reang Chances are low though. @ Little Mouse Yeah, I believe the same, but history tells us that there is always some chance for upset in cricket. Chances are thin, but we should not close our mind with any possibility.
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July 03, 2019, 06:50:22 PM |
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@Vishnu.Reang @Little Mouse
Yeah, I believe the same, but history tells us that there is always some chance for upset in cricket. Chances are thin, but we should not close our mind with any possibility.
haha, and the most upset was for NZ, you know they never reach final despite having a blast performance in 92 from Martin Crowe, no one thought NZ is not going to be the champion. But they weren't. Lol, but they are playing so poor this time, will they be the champion this time? Their top batsman still didn't have any good performance in this edition. Will he be able to act like Gilchrist in 2007? I can't wait to see champion of this edition.
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July 04, 2019, 02:08:24 AM |
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@Vishnu.Reang @Little Mouse
Yeah, I believe the same, but history tells us that there is always some chance for upset in cricket. Chances are thin, but we should not close our mind with any possibility.
haha, and the most upset was for NZ, you know they never reach final despite having a blast performance in 92 from Martin Crowe, no one thought NZ is not going to be the champion. But they weren't. Lol, but they are playing so poor this time, will they be the champion this time? Their top batsman still didn't have any good performance in this edition. Will he be able to act like Gilchrist in 2007? I can't wait to see champion of this edition. New Zealand started the world cup with a crushing 10 wicket victory over Sri Lanka. I think I was the only one in the pool who predicted it correctly. During the second match, they struggled against Bangladesh but managed to beat them. And then they were able to beat Afghanistan in a decisive manner. But their performance during the last 2-3 matches have been poor. Had a very close match against West Indies, followed by a defeat against Pakistan. And then crushing defeats against Australia and England.
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UmerIdrees
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July 04, 2019, 04:32:34 AM |
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~snip~
The Big 3 have decided that since England has not win any world cup, they will allow England to Win this world cup.
Bro, conspiracy theories are a waste of time tbh. like i mentioned before (Bold part)
England, India, Australia are top teams and can beat each others on their good day so nothing surprising or major upset here. Kiwis winning the world cup might be surprise for me.
@ Vishnu.Reang Chances are low though. @ Little Mouse Yeah, I believe the same, but history tells us that there is always some chance for upset in cricket. Chances are thin, but we should not close our mind with any possibility. This is not a conspiring theory but a reality. Let the Saturday matches finalizes who will play against whom in the Semi final and then we can further discuss on it.
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July 04, 2019, 05:43:25 AM |
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Yes, that's a sad surprise. But i have one more analysis to make here NZ lost their last three matches and down in confidence and yet qualifies PAK Won the last three matches and better in confidence and unable to qualify.
It is a really unfortunate situation, the rain actually spoiled some matches and now the net run rate will determine who is going to the next round, it would be fun if we could see Pakistan getting a spot in the semi and then they are facing India in the finals . Today we have Afghanistan vs West Indies and i am thinking about a comfortable win for West Indies but will be glad if Afghanistan can defeat them as they played good cricket but no wins so far.
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July 04, 2019, 07:55:39 AM |
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From ESPN Cricinfo 6.17pm Handshakes all round ... and here's official word from S Rajesh, our statsguru-in-chief. Pakistan will need to beat Bangladesh by 316 runs at Lord's on Friday to oust New Zealand. "That is, if they score 400, they need to keep Bangladesh to 84 or less. The exact margin will change depending on scores." It's not over yet!
See the last words, "It's Not Over Yet" . Lolzzz In addition to that, if they Bangladesh wins the toss and chooses to bat then they are eliminated. So right now Pakistan hopes of getting qualified is very very hard. Good show by Bairstow yesterday.
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July 04, 2019, 07:57:50 AM |
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Yes, that's a sad surprise. But i have one more analysis to make here NZ lost their last three matches and down in confidence and yet qualifies PAK Won the last three matches and better in confidence and unable to qualify.
It is a really unfortunate situation, the rain actually spoiled some matches and now the net run rate will determine who is going to the next round, it would be fun if we could see Pakistan getting a spot in the semi and then they are facing India in the finals . Today we have Afghanistan vs West Indies and i am thinking about a comfortable win for West Indies but will be glad if Afghanistan can defeat them as they played good cricket but no wins so far. I don't think West Indies will win comfortably, Afghanistan and West Indies match always nail biting. Now Afghanistan getting their mojo back after started playing some good matches against India and Pakistan. So don't underestimates Afghanistan, before World Cup started, everyone was sure, they will do 2-3 upsets, but because of their internal politics they ruin whole world cup dreams.
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July 04, 2019, 08:20:29 AM |
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Yes, that's a sad surprise. But i have one more analysis to make here NZ lost their last three matches and down in confidence and yet qualifies PAK Won the last three matches and better in confidence and unable to qualify.
It is a really unfortunate situation, the rain actually spoiled some matches and now the net run rate will determine who is going to the next round, it would be fun if we could see Pakistan getting a spot in the semi and then they are facing India in the finals . Today we have Afghanistan vs West Indies and i am thinking about a comfortable win for West Indies but will be glad if Afghanistan can defeat them as they played good cricket but no wins so far. I don't think West Indies will win comfortably, Afghanistan and West Indies match always nail biting. Now Afghanistan getting their mojo back after started playing some good matches against India and Pakistan. So don't underestimates Afghanistan, before World Cup started, everyone was sure, they will do 2-3 upsets, but because of their internal politics they ruin whole world cup dreams. But WI is lot better than AFG but they need to play to the condition then only they can win matches,we saw that they were playing ODI matches like T20 matches which caused them to lose many matches,hooefully they learned something and will play better this time.
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