What's wrong with Vod, and Hhampuz

[OgNasty]

OG absolutely deserves to lose his house over his scam.  That isn't up for dispute.

Your hate, has been your undoing.  Even I feel bad about telling you to keep digging your hole at this point.  I don't think your rep will ever recover from this.  That is why I gave you multiple chances to apologize for your lies and we could move beyond this.  I didn't even leave you a negative trust rating at the time.  That's looking like it was a pretty good offer at this point now doesn't it?  Maybe I was being reasonable and trying to protect you when I offered that as a solution?  Nice to see you didn't let that stop you from shooting yourself in the foot and then blaming me.  Oh well.  You can't say I didn't try to save your reputation, because I very clearly did, twice.

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[Vod]

Your scam has been your undoing. 

[minifrij]

I couldn't really care about your trust squabbles, but:

This is literally from the same post you just quoted :

- If you want to make a rating stronger, increase "Risked BTC". 50 extra risked BTC is equivalent to an additional rating.

I don't think this applies anymore. I could be wrong, but I expect that it was changed once theymos realized that it was a bit of a silly idea.

[OgNasty]

Your scam has been your undoing. 

Didn't realize I'd been undone, or was this a clever reference to my naked Tuesdays?

I'm sorry.  I couldn't resist.

[Vod]

And now I am intimidating others by simply ignoring them.

Liars do not belong on DT1.  Remove Bill Gator!

[bill gator]

So that there is no possible way for my feedback to be misconstrued; I have removed the 500 BTC risked. I can tell that it will create a divide, and distract from the actual issue meant to be tackled. Somehow, I doubt that is going to change anything.

now I am intimidating others by simply ignoring them.

No, you are intimidating others by endangering lives through giving out their address, attaching promises of millions to it and attaching lawsuits to your personal problems. Ignoring me would've been a preferable alternative to you crying about taunting, abusing the trust system and lying about ignoring me.

[Vod]

I don't think your rep will ever recover from this.

Didn't realize my rep had been damaged -  just my brain at the thought of naked Tuesdays!  

I'm sorry.  I couldn't resist.

[EcuaMobi]

Red-trusting Vod over this is an appropriate usage of red-trust, since his actions here are highly trust-relevant.

Everyone who left Vod appropriate red-trust were removed from DT as a result.  I'm sure that's not a problem, right?  

Here you "forgot" to include the rest of the quote that completes the idea:

Red-trusting Vod over this is an appropriate usage of red-trust, since his actions here are highly trust-relevant. But I tend to think that since he edited his post and seems to genuinely regret at least the public doxxing part, it'd be best to forgive.

I have removed the 500 BTC risked

This clearly means the negative left to bill gator is no longer deserved (if it ever was).


Again this is absurdly getting out of control. Would you all learn how to use the trust system and leave negative trust only if you think the user has scammed or will steal as soon as they get a chance?
Leave negative trust only if you think this label is deserved:

This increases the responsibility of DT members not to give negative trust for stupid reasons, but only for things that cause you to believe that the person is a scammer.

[Vod]

I have removed the 500 BTC risked

This clearly means the negative left to bill gator is no longer deserved (if it ever was).

But... I removed the DOX....    

Again this is absurdly getting out of control.

Too late I think.

[bill gator]

In my personal opinion, potentially losing the forum treasury holdings due to a momentary lapse of judgement by a single individual would be more significantly damaging to the forum, Bitcoin, our community than any scam I have seen take place around here. I am all for forgiveness, and I most likely will remove my tag at a later date, but for now this needs to have consequences within the trust-system; if I am going to walk away from this situation with negative trust, that should say something.

But... I removed the DOX....   

Which has saved you from having the same trust-rating as Quickseller, self-preservation isn't noble.

[ibminer]

So that there is no possible way for my feedback to be misconstrued; I have removed the 500 BTC risked. I can tell that it will create a divide, and distract from the actual issue meant to be tackled. Somehow, I doubt that is going to change anything.

Since you have now endangered Vod due to the people who are going to hunt him down thinking he was a scammer who took or was trying to take 500BTC, should I be leaving you feedback now? 

[Vod]

So that there is no possible way for my feedback to be misconstrued; I have removed the 500 BTC risked. I can tell that it will create a divide, and distract from the actual issue meant to be tackled. Somehow, I doubt that is going to change anything.

Since you have now endangered Vod due to the people who are going to hunt him down thinking he was a scammer who took or was trying to take 500BTC, should I be leaving you feedback now?  

Makes sense.   I deleted the dox, but he left feedback anyway.  

I made a mistake, but Bill outright lied.  

Based on OG's feedback, it is appropriate to leave negative trust for someone who endangered a life, no matter mistake or lie.

[EcuaMobi]

But... I removed the DOX....    

And that's why I think you don't deserve the negative trust either. But retaliation shouldn't be the only reason why you leave that trust.

Too late I think.

I'm more concerned about non-deserved negative trust. The whole discussion has been absurd for a long time but I just ignore it.

In my personal opinion, potentially losing the forum treasury holdings due to a momentary lapse of judgement by a single individual would be more significantly damaging to the forum, Bitcoin, our community than any scam I have seen take place around here. I am all for forgiveness, and I most likely will remove my tag at a later date

That's not what negative trust means. It doesn't mean "a momentary lapse of judgement by this user could have significantly damaged the forum". It means "this user is very untrustworthy. He has scammed and/or I think he will scam as soon as he gets a chance.".

[Quickseller]

So that there is no possible way for my feedback to be misconstrued; I have removed the 500 BTC risked. I can tell that it will create a divide, and distract from the actual issue meant to be tackled. Somehow, I doubt that is going to change anything.

Since you have now endangered Vod due to the people who are going to hunt him down thinking he was a scammer who took or was trying to take 500BTC, should I be leaving you feedback now? 

That is a ridiculous assertion and is based on the fact Vod is your employer.

[FFrankie]

I will bet 1 person here 0.000001 btc that if OG gets audited he will get a refund

To say that og doesn't pay his taxes is a joke. Isn't his wife/girlfriend an accountant or a lawyer or something like that

[actmyname]

I will bet 1 person here 0.000001 btc that if OG gets audited he will get a refund

Open a lightning channel

[TMAN]

I will bet 1 person here 0.000001 btc that if OG gets audited he will get a refund

To say that og doesn't pay his taxes is a joke. Isn't his wife/girlfriend an accountant or a lawyer or something like that

Who’s gonna escrow?

[Quickseller]

I will bet 1 person here 0.000001 btc that if OG gets audited he will get a refund

To say that og doesn't pay his taxes is a joke. Isn't his wife/girlfriend an accountant or a lawyer or something like that

Who’s gonna escrow?

I can

[AB de Royse777]

I will bet 1 person here 0.000001 btc that if OG gets audited he will get a refund

To say that og doesn't pay his taxes is a joke. Isn't his wife/girlfriend an accountant or a lawyer or something like that

Who’s gonna escrow?

I can

That's a lot of money when BTC will hit 1B :-P 🚀

[ibminer]

That is a ridiculous assertion and is based on the fact Vod is your employer.

Thanks for the clarification /sarcasm , however, my employer is who I work for practically every day of my life to feed my family and have a place to live, and that's not Vod. Your "facts" seem a bit flawed. What else is new??

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He is paying you for work on a regular basis. The conflict exists regardless of if i am referring to your day job or a side gig that gives you extra pocket cash.

Paying me for work on a regular basis   I'm not sure where the hell you would ever get this idea but I assume it's coming from the same source that told you Lauda has a pill addicition?