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June 06, 2019, 03:20:38 PM
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What's on your take though about Manny Pacquiao's training all over Youtube? Does Thurman benefits from all of this because obviously, he see what Manny is doing or how Manny is at this stage of his training? You can go search on it in Youtube, I don't know if Manny has given this vblogger or why he gave him the opportunity to record all his training, like hitting the heavy bags and other stuff.

I don't think it will have a significant effect specially on Thurman's side. At the end of the day, if doesn't have any difference because it's going to be the two of them facing in the ring.

I also find it interesting to see Kostya Tszyu's son Tim involved in Manny's training camp. Kostya was one great champion during the late 90's to early 2000's. For those who's not year born that time, he is the one who give Zab Judah that 'stanky leg', LOL. So let's see how his son Tim can push Manny because there are reports that he has a similar style of Keith Thurman.

Manny's camp a history of choosing a lot of good sparring partners, like Shawn Porter. So I do hope that Tim Tszyu will become a world champion in the future.

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June 06, 2019, 07:46:20 PM
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What's on your take though about Manny Pacquiao's training all over Youtube? Does Thurman benefits from all of this because obviously, he see what Manny is doing or how Manny is at this stage of his training? You can go search on it in Youtube, I don't know if Manny has given this vblogger or why he gave him the opportunity to record all his training, like hitting the heavy bags and other stuff.

I don't think it will have a significant effect specially on Thurman's side. At the end of the day, if doesn't have any difference because it's going to be the two of them facing in the ring.

You are right! We can say that there might be have some similarities in style but in the end we cant conclude since it is a different fighter that do face up on the ring.

about that vlogger that have been given opportunity to record all of the training then we don't know if its intentional for the sake of show-off.

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June 06, 2019, 09:11:51 PM
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What's on your take though about Manny Pacquiao's training all over Youtube? Does Thurman benefits from all of this because obviously, he see what Manny is doing or how Manny is at this stage of his training? You can go search on it in Youtube, I don't know if Manny has given this vblogger or why he gave him the opportunity to record all his training, like hitting the heavy bags and other stuff.
There's no effect even if they show on how Manny trains. Because they can also watch old vids of Manny including trainings and his matches. It's part of their strategy to know more about each others side to watch latest and old vids of their oppponent.

I also saw one video on FB uploaded of his training on Elorde Gym, well it's not just on social media but also reported on news.

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June 07, 2019, 12:59:25 AM
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What's on your take though about Manny Pacquiao's training all over Youtube? Does Thurman benefits from all of this because obviously, he see what Manny is doing or how Manny is at this stage of his training? You can go search on it in Youtube, I don't know if Manny has given this vblogger or why he gave him the opportunity to record all his training, like hitting the heavy bags and other stuff.
There's no effect even if they show on how Manny trains. Because they can also watch old vids of Manny including trainings and his matches. It's part of their strategy to know more about each others side to watch latest and old vids of their oppponent.

I also saw one video on FB uploaded of his training on Elorde Gym, well it's not just on social media but also reported on news.
I think Thurman will know Manny's style but the problem is they don't know how to stop him.
His speed and power at his age is still present, so this should be the one they have to take care, many have failed to stop him, and I believe Thurman will be challenge here a lot. Good luck to him, he calls Pacman if I'm not mistaken, so he should engage and give  a good fight.

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June 07, 2019, 01:24:37 AM
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Odds update:

Last week, May 29, 2019 : Manny Pacquiao (2.06) and Keith Thurman (1.68)
Now, June 7, 2019 : Manny Pacquiao (2.03) and Keith Thurman (1.70)



Since I want to bet on Manny Pacquiao, what do you think guys? Should I wait more before the fight or bet now? I am carefully watching the odds.
A month and few days left before the fight, this fight really exciting. Win or lose, as long as they give us a good fight  Grin

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June 07, 2019, 01:39:34 AM
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Odds update:

Last week, May 29, 2019 : Manny Pacquiao (2.06) and Keith Thurman (1.68)
Now, June 7, 2019 : Manny Pacquiao (2.03) and Keith Thurman (1.70)



Since I want to bet on Manny Pacquiao, what do you think guys? Should I wait more before the fight or bet now? I am carefully watching the odds.
A month and few days left before the fight, this fight really exciting. Win or lose, as long as they give us a good fight  Grin
I guess you should do it now, there will no major changes in the line unless something came in, like a big news that would affect a fighter.
At that odds, you already get a good payout betting on Manny, but if you want a better odds.

You can bet in https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/boxing/boxing-matches - current odds is 2.116

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What's on your take though about Manny Pacquiao's training all over Youtube? Does Thurman benefits from all of this because obviously, he see what Manny is doing or how Manny is at this stage of his training? You can go search on it in Youtube, I don't know if Manny has given this vblogger or why he gave him the opportunity to record all his training, like hitting the heavy bags and other stuff.
There's no effect even if they show on how Manny trains. Because they can also watch old vids of Manny including trainings and his matches. It's part of their strategy to know more about each others side to watch latest and old vids of their oppponent.

I also saw one video on FB uploaded of his training on Elorde Gym, well it's not just on social media but also reported on news.
I think Thurman will know Manny's style but the problem is they don't know how to stop him.
His speed and power at his age is still present, so this should be the one they have to take care, many have failed to stop him, and I believe Thurman will be challenge here a lot. Good luck to him, he calls Pacman if I'm not mistaken, so he should engage and give  a good fight.
They already know it, Manny's a well known boxer and every time he will have his match his opponent's team is obliged to study and research about his fighting style so these kind of videos aren't actually a threat for Manny whether his opponent will see it.

With an interview to his coach Buboy Fernandez said, that Manny is kind of pissed off with Thurman's statement about him. And that made Manny long for the fight quickly to show what kind of emotion he's feeling now.

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Odds update:

Last week, May 29, 2019 : Manny Pacquiao (2.06) and Keith Thurman (1.68)
Now, June 7, 2019 : Manny Pacquiao (2.03) and Keith Thurman (1.70)

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I guess you should do it now, there will no major changes in the line unless something came in, like a big news that would affect a fighter.
At that odds, you already get a good payout betting on Manny, but if you want a better odds.

You can bet in https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/boxing/boxing-matches - current odds is 2.116

I agree. That odds for Manny is really good although the fight is like 5 weeks from now, I don't see significant changes to come along. I'm sure we all know that anything above 2.xx is a good odds, and we are talking about Manny Pacquiao here.

As for the questions I raised before, I guess it has no bearing at all as others have said. It's between the two and it really boils down as to how hard you train going into this fight and not watching your opponents hitting the heavy bags. You should concentrate on what you can do in the ring and not what the other fighter can do to you.

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June 07, 2019, 05:31:17 PM
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The odds have changed during the last two weeks. When I checked the betting sites last month, most of them were offering between 2.35 and 2.45 for Manny. And this has come down to 2.00-2.10 now. I guess a lot of users have placed bets in favor of Pacquiao and therefore the betting sites were forced to reduce the returns (in order to reduce the risk).
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June 08, 2019, 03:02:37 AM
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Let me fixed it for you. Where Manny fanboys pactards at?  Grin. Either way, Pacman never ceases to amazed us, but we know that Thurman will be next in line. First, this is a winnable fight for me if we are going to base in on Keith's previous performance. Second, this is a test for Manny, if he win this one then I will assume that Floyd will be next or there is a possibility that he will face Floyd in the future.

Manny has fought so many fights already. If there's anyone who needs some testing, it's the younger fighter. Floyd fights whenever he wants to fight. He won't be bothered by the result of the Pacquiao-Thurman fight.

As for the fight, Manny still has the speed and power. Experience will be key.


I think we would see another amazing fight from Pacquiao but I think he is already old there are so many young athlete he should just give way to them.
Yeah experience would be his advantage but could his body go against a younger one?

Even, he is old he still strong and fast speed while. fighting so, Im sure Many Pacquiao still can be a winner this year 2019. So, I will put my bet to Many.

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June 08, 2019, 05:00:11 AM
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The odds have changed during the last two weeks. When I checked the betting sites last month, most of them were offering between 2.35 and 2.45 for Manny. And this has come down to 2.00-2.10 now. I guess a lot of users have placed bets in favor of Pacquiao and therefore the betting sites were forced to reduce the returns (in order to reduce the risk).
They needed to adjust in case most of the gamblers favors Pacquiao, this is a business bookies knows how to adjust and still be in a favoring side
odds will continue to change before the fight will start, it's still good risk for Pacquiao if ever you love betting.
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The odds have changed during the last two weeks. When I checked the betting sites last month, most of them were offering between 2.35 and 2.45 for Manny. And this has come down to 2.00-2.10 now. I guess a lot of users have placed bets in favor of Pacquiao and therefore the betting sites were forced to reduce the returns (in order to reduce the risk).
They needed to adjust in case most of the gamblers favors Pacquiao, this is a business bookies knows how to adjust and still be in a favoring side
odds will continue to change before the fight will start, it's still good risk for Pacquiao if ever you love betting.

Exactly, but what I wanted to see is Manny being the underdog in this fight because the odds will be very good for the betting public. We still have a month to go before the fight, but I don't think it will go lower. But I'm not putting any bet, I just put a slip maybe in the couple of days prior to the fight to see what really are the odds are. Hope it could go as high as 2.5 in other bookies.

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June 08, 2019, 06:00:17 AM
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Odds update:

Last week, May 29, 2019 : Manny Pacquiao (2.06) and Keith Thurman (1.68)
Now, June 7, 2019 : Manny Pacquiao (2.03) and Keith Thurman (1.70)

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I guess you should do it now, there will no major changes in the line unless something came in, like a big news that would affect a fighter.
At that odds, you already get a good payout betting on Manny, but if you want a better odds.

You can bet in https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/boxing/boxing-matches - current odds is 2.116

I agree. That odds for Manny is really good although the fight is like 5 weeks from now, I don't see significant changes to come along. I'm sure we all know that anything above 2.xx is a good odds, and we are talking about Manny Pacquiao here.

As for the questions I raised before, I guess it has no bearing at all as others have said. It's between the two and it really boils down as to how hard you train going into this fight and not watching your opponents hitting the heavy bags. You should concentrate on what you can do in the ring and not what the other fighter can do to you.

That's right, we can't judge who will win by watching how they train, their performance in the ring is the most important and we know these two fellas are champion so it's already understood that they are training hard to be where they are now.

As a fan, I would bet on Manny and this line reward the fans as the odds like this does not happen all day.
If Manny fights against Mayweather, I would not be that confident, but Pacman's accomplishments in his boxing career are too big for us not to noticed.

The odds have changed during the last two weeks. When I checked the betting sites last month, most of them were offering between 2.35 and 2.45 for Manny. And this has come down to 2.00-2.10 now. I guess a lot of users have placed bets in favor of Pacquiao and therefore the betting sites were forced to reduce the returns (in order to reduce the risk).

Most probably, but hopefully it will not go down below 2.00.

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June 08, 2019, 12:50:43 PM
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Since the odds have changed, I think betting in favor of Keith Thurman is a very good option now. I have no doubt that Manny Pacquiao is a legend. But as far as the current form is considered, Thurman is far ahead of Pacquiao. Any odd less than 2.00 would be unfairly favoring Pacquiao. Anyway, still more than a month to go, and let's see how the odds end up.
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June 08, 2019, 03:02:36 PM
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Only 6 weeks left before the two fight of Pacquiao and Thruman.  We are excited to see who gonna win for that battle and everyone have own bet who they think win. But majority they think Manny is better and including me.

Many bet will happen this coming weeks and we can know who gonna win in the July 20 goodluck to the everyone who bet on gambling site.
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June 08, 2019, 04:03:04 PM
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Only 6 weeks left before the two fight of Pacquiao and Thruman.  We are excited to see who gonna win for that battle and everyone have own bet who they think win. But majority they think Manny is better and including me.

Many bet will happen this coming weeks and we can know who gonna win in the July 20 goodluck to the everyone who bet on gambling site.
While the fight is getting nearer, the fans and gamblers will now  placing their respective bets, odds will change according to the numbers
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June 08, 2019, 04:24:24 PM
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Only 6 weeks left before the two fight of Pacquiao and Thruman.  We are excited to see who gonna win for that battle and everyone have own bet who they think win. But majority they think Manny is better and including me.

Many bet will happen this coming weeks and we can know who gonna win in the July 20 goodluck to the everyone who bet on gambling site.
I choose Pacman also despite the undefeated record of Thurman, i still believe that Pacman can make Thurman kneel down if he wants to fight head-on with Pacman. But i don't know what round it will be since Thurman is not that easy opponent too. We will just gonna see the fight of these two great fighters in the ring and who will be going to dominate amongst them.

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June 08, 2019, 09:02:21 PM
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Only 6 weeks left before the two fight of Pacquiao and Thruman.  We are excited to see who gonna win for that battle and everyone have own bet who they think win. But majority they think Manny is better and including me.

Many bet will happen this coming weeks and we can know who gonna win in the July 20 goodluck to the everyone who bet on gambling site.
I choose Pacman also despite the undefeated record of Thurman, i still believe that Pacman can make Thurman kneel down if he wants to fight head-on with Pacman. But i don't know what round it will be since Thurman is not that easy opponent too. We will just gonna see the fight of these two great fighters in the ring and who will be going to dominate amongst them.
When it comes to dominance then there's no doubt whose boxer do have much impact when it comes

to Charisma which is on Pacquiao but we haven't still known yet on what would Thurman is capable of.So,
its still not an assurance thing that we can say on whose the winner until the 12 round finish of.


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June 09, 2019, 06:45:22 AM
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Only 6 weeks left before the two fight of Pacquiao and Thruman.  We are excited to see who gonna win for that battle and everyone have own bet who they think win. But majority they think Manny is better and including me.

Many bet will happen this coming weeks and we can know who gonna win in the July 20 goodluck to the everyone who bet on gambling site.
I choose Pacman also despite the undefeated record of Thurman, i still believe that Pacman can make Thurman kneel down if he wants to fight head-on with Pacman. But i don't know what round it will be since Thurman is not that easy opponent too. We will just gonna see the fight of these two great fighters in the ring and who will be going to dominate amongst them.
With Thurman’s stamina?this will be the hard task for Manny to make Thurman kneel for him.just like Jeff Horns capability’s maybe Pacman will face another hard fight on this one

But being Pacquiao’s supporter from the very first time I saw him in the ring when he was amateur,I will never lose hope that he will still bring the title way back home and make Filipino Proud again
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June 09, 2019, 11:20:46 AM
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Only 6 weeks left before the two fight of Pacquiao and Thruman.  We are excited to see who gonna win for that battle and everyone have own bet who they think win. But majority they think Manny is better and including me.

Many bet will happen this coming weeks and we can know who gonna win in the July 20 goodluck to the everyone who bet on gambling site.
I choose Pacman also despite the undefeated record of Thurman, i still believe that Pacman can make Thurman kneel down if he wants to fight head-on with Pacman. But i don't know what round it will be since Thurman is not that easy opponent too. We will just gonna see the fight of these two great fighters in the ring and who will be going to dominate amongst them.
With Thurman’s stamina?this will be the hard task for Manny to make Thurman kneel for him.just like Jeff Horns capability’s maybe Pacman will face another hard fight on this one

But being Pacquiao’s supporter from the very first time I saw him in the ring when he was amateur,I will never lose hope that he will still bring the title way back home and make Filipino Proud again
Even at his age now, Manny is still Manny, he can beat a young fella like we've witnessed in his last fight.
Thurman maybe a dangerous fighter but this guy has knock out any fighter recently, so his power might deteriorate due to his injury.

Manny has a should injury also and we know that when he fought against Mayweather, but he is fully healthy now, I cannot bet against him when he is on a winning streak now.

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