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May 15, 2019, 11:08:39 AM
Last edit: May 21, 2019, 03:32:23 AM by Steamtyme
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I know that I don't have all the details and will add and polish as time and information becomes available, but thought I'd start with what I think I know. There have been some changes recently in what powers/authority have been granted to Global Moderators and Contractors. It might be nice to get a clear picture of what how things are functioning at this time.

Admin:
- God-like abilities within the forum. Can modify/remove any and all data or information within the forum, this includes all abilities listed below.
- Handle payments and operation of Forum Staff, and service providers
- Plan for and sustain operations of the forum

Global Moderators:
- Can apply moderation to any board
- Can Ban users
- Can receive and respond to reported PM's
- Now have the ability to apply a Signature Ban as opposed to a standard account ban

Moderators:
- Can apply moderation to the boards they are assigned
- Have the ability to Nuke some newbie accounts.
- Need to request Bans, Global mods or Admins have the final say.

Cryptios:
-Main purpose is to investigate and accomplish account recoveries.
-They also have the ability to Lock accounts, if they believe it to be compromised.
-I believe they also have the same abilities as Patrollers.

Patrollers:
- Ability to moderate Newbies across all boards.
- Can nuke some newbie accounts.

Stipulations for Mods to have the ability to nuke a Newbie account -
Regular mods can ban Newbies if they haven't been whitelisted by another mod, don't have Copper membership (IIRC), and have less than 150 posts or less than 30 posts if they have earned at least 1 merit.


Perhaps this is as good a place as any to also remind users that staff/mods are ALSO regular users.  We have opinions and ideas the same as other regular users, some are good ideas and opinions and some not so good. Some of us can be a little cunty some are nice all the time.  Most of us have different levels of participation and knowledge about the forum and blockchain tech.

IOW staff are not automatically experts in anything  Cool

And I would add that we are not Bitcoin's customer service. ~snip~

It's the hilarious how some people think there's a customer service for everything and go from "please sir, i'll do anything" to "i'll find you and..." when they don't get what they want.

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May 15, 2019, 11:13:23 AM
Last edit: May 15, 2019, 11:26:46 AM by iasenko
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You are missing here the patrollers.

Yes, it's the same as always. Currently there are 3 patrollers and 20 non-patroller local moderators. (I saw someone say elsewhere that all mods have jurisdiction over newbies, but this isn't true.) At some points in the past there have been more patrollers, but that's not necessarily indicative of a shortage.

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The patrollers can handle newbies all-over the forum, the local mods can do it only in their local boards, global mods can ban everyone despite the rank, but I guess only Theymos and Cyrus can Nuke a Legendary, in other words nuking higher ranked members.


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May 15, 2019, 11:17:40 AM
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Thanks for that. So Patrollers are moderators that can apply moderation across all boards? I'm guessing it's restricted by rank of the "offender" and that's the difference between them and Global Mods. I've heard of them but never found to much info regarding them so I'm in the dark there.

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May 15, 2019, 11:45:51 AM
Last edit: May 15, 2019, 02:08:09 PM by Halab
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Moderators:
- I believe have the ability to Ban users - Not sure what/if there are restrictions.

Nope, mods can not ban users. But we can request it, and the global mods/admin do it... or not Smiley.
But mods have the ability to nuke (delete all posts and ban) newbies under certain conditions.

Edit : And if mods can't ban a user, mods (not Global Mods) can even less unban a user.

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May 15, 2019, 12:17:25 PM
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Nope, mods can not ban users. But we can request it, and the global mods/admin do it... or not Smiley.
But mods have the ability to nuke (delete all posts and ban) newbies under certain conditions.

Thanks for the clarification, I wasn't sure what level of authority you had for Bans on your boards. I've updated that section to reflect this.

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Edit:>
The patrollers can handle newbies all-over the forum, the local mods can do it only in their local boards, global mods can ban everyone despite the rank, but I guess only Theymos and Cyrus can Nuke a Legendary, in other words nuking higher ranked members.
~snip~

Thanks for clearing that up I'll add them in. That makes me curious have they ever nuked a Legendary, seems unlikely. They tend to leave most content visible despite a user being banned.

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May 15, 2019, 01:07:41 PM
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Where's the admin and staff Huh ?



Edit: I think its necessary to have the two Smiley Even if its too obvious about the admin's power, but what about the staff? (I'm a little intrigued for what they really are doing here, I mean, what's their jobs as staff of the forum?)

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May 15, 2019, 01:33:25 PM
Last edit: May 15, 2019, 02:00:07 PM by Steamtyme
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Pretty sure staff is anyone who is a moderator. Likely one of the options for a title.

I could add something for admins, "Godlike ability within this realm" apart from that I was more interested in the roles that would have less definition grouped together.

I'm on mobile if it seems wanted/needed i'll update it tonight.



See below, that makes total sense i never really paid attention to it, just noticed that moderators showed as staff sometimes.

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May 15, 2019, 01:33:45 PM
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Where's the admin and staff Huh ?


Staff are moderators.
On the board they moderate you will see "Moderator" under their usernames, outside of it you will see "Staff".


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May 15, 2019, 01:49:23 PM
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I see.

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That's more likely understandable than Steamtyme. Tongue
Anyways thanks to both of you, I really thought that staff and Mods are different and has different roles back then.Now I have been enlightened again 😂

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Perhaps this is as good a place as any to also remind users that staff/mods are ALSO regular users.  We have opinions and ideas the same as other regular users, some are good ideas and opinions and some not so good. Some of us can be a little cunty some are nice all the time.  Most of us have different levels of participation and knowledge about the forum and blockchain tech.

IOW staff are not automatically experts in anything  Cool

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May 15, 2019, 02:18:57 PM
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Perhaps this is as good a place as any to also remind users that staff/mods are ALSO regular users.  We have opinions and ideas the same as other regular users, some are good ideas and opinions and some not so good. Some of us can be a little cunty some are nice all the time.  Most of us have different levels of participation and knowledge about the forum and blockchain tech.

IOW staff are not automatically experts in anything  Cool

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And I would add that we are not Bitcoin's customer service. I received few (2 or 3) PM asking me if I can help about a blocked transaction.
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Quoted both and added to OP. Let me know if you have an issue with it being trimmed. Maybe we'll see all Mods post something they'd like quoted they wish people knew.


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And I would add that we are not Bitcoin's customer service. I received few (2 or 3) PM asking me if I can help about a blocked transaction.
That's not limited to Staff: I even get requests to help unban shitposters on Telegram.

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Cryptios has the same access as patrollers, not moderators.

I believe patrollers have the ability to nuke newbie accounts. The ability to nuke newbie accounts is apparently limited, presumably to those who have less than 15 activity but I’m not sure what the exact criteria is for a moderator/patroller to have the authority to nuke a newbie is. I suspect this is to prevent someone who never received merit after being here for a long time from getting nuked, the criteria of doing so is fairly low.

All actions are done “under the right circumstances”.

Admins can also see PMs and unlock accounts (they will probably rarely personally do this because they have hired help for this).

Both admins and global moderators can receive PM reports, that is if you are reporting a specific PM.

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I've updated the OP again. Added the Admin role as it's come up a few times. I did leave a few "*" around for info I'm not positive on. Keep the info coming, if you notice something missing or that is incorrect.

Mods feel free to leave a quotable snippit of something you want people to know, I'll ad it to the OP.

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Last edit: May 17, 2019, 11:58:05 PM by alanst
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+1.
And I would add that we are not Bitcoin's customer service. I received few (2 or 3) PM asking me if I can help about a blocked transaction.

It's hilarious how some people think there's a customer service for everything and go from "please sir, i'll do anything" to "i'll find you and..." when they don't get what they want.



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Update as to under what circumstances newbies can be banned

Moderators cant ban Users , only Global Mods and admins as far i know !
Patrollers (at one point, the majority of mods were patrollers -- moderators of newbies) can ban Brand New and Newbie accounts.

Regular mods can ban Newbies if they haven't been whitelisted by another mod, don't have Copper membership (IIRC), and have less than 150 posts or less than 30 posts if they have earned at least 1 merit.

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