NEED HELP BADLY! FEDS SIZED 50K CASH and 1BTC FROM HOME WITH SEARCH WARRANT. NY

[tornistenbaskaptan]

I was a localbitcoin traders with only 3 transactions  only doing very occasionally  and only 4 transaction  with this undercover in 9 months.
What ever UC was start from $5k and very pushy to $50k and bingo he is undercover.

All source of money source  is clear from ebay amazon sales  wire from other bank and money was keep to purchase a car thru auctions.
Now arrested for money transmitting peer to peer money transfer money laundering (yep 35 year old man can not save this much right ).
It is unbelievable he seduce me  keep asking for months almost every week and i keep refusing finally before this raise i thought lets sent this cash to btc wallet.
5 SUV  of federals 15 people (maybe more) search house and car destroy entire house and leaved me without a penny.
Lawyers attorneys are open mouth from 50k also.
Search warrant signed by 9:00pm (possibly a friendly judge to feds).
Car seized laptop macbook phone and chartpolotter (boat gps) also all usb already been 10 days they keep and i m desperately searching for an attorney each means hours of talk and ask 20k in front to just ask prosucetors what is  going on.
Thast why most of case pleae gulty or give-up about bitcoins
Wavv for $15 an hour i did work 10 years almost every week  7 days and min 12h a day great fed attorneys asking 20k for their works awesome America.  

somethings this is insane fbi dea all i guess finish with terrorist drug cartels and working on a bitcoiner for months ??

this link man is almost same
http://www.jmwagner.com/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14808 and user name : burtW please someone dm him to dm me i can't he is dm closed to newbies

Notes:
I will keep adding here updates  and open any advises to help me.
any typical gramer corrections please dm with correct one.
Is this topic correct if not please moderators move it.
I dont know should i put here my case numbers or not bartW please some advises
NO DRUG AT ALL I NEVER USED HARD EARNED MONEY WAS WAITING TO GO CAR  AUCTION LONGTIME. IDIOT KEEP ASK HEY SELL YOU BTC ALL THE TIME
I CAN NOT SEND DM WOULD SOME SHOW THIS TOPIC USER: BURTW HE HAD SAME UNFORTUNATE https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14808
Thanks

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[dunfida]

You mean Seized by FED? Its hard to fight up into this situation.Is there any Public attorneys available on your place? Most of them will be available without the need of upfront professional fee or simply free.

[buwaytress]

Hard to see if you're actually a genuine case but if you are, I'd recommend you seek proper legal advice. But problem is you broke the law pretty much, you just can't do that kind of business in the US without having a licence as a money remittance service provider. Not hard to believe undercover agents on LBC, these kinds of stings happen all the time

Even if you were repeatedly led into selling to the agent, I don't think it counts as entrapment any longer, because it's proof that you were on LBC offering services, when in fact you can't do that legally in the US.

Like you said, just go for the guilty plea. The most recent related case only led to the trader fined $35k for purchases worth $5 million. Doesn't sound like a bad deal for me.

[eddie13]

So you are some foreigner in New York, illegally dealing large amounts of BTC, transparently, and you are surprised the feds are interested in you?

[tornistenbaskaptan]

So you are some foreigner in New York, illegally dealing large amounts of BTC, transparently, and you are surprised the feds are interested in you?

U.S citizen 15 years
didnt sell and buy in to manys transactions
the money was for buying car
and same undorcover keep offering 10% less than market.
If they target crypto comunity instead of drug dealers this is sucks  and too many countries law enforcement is forbid to promote like this insane.
 

[Sithara007]

This has happened to a few users here, such as BurtW.

The thread from theymos can be seen here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=934268.0

But in his case, he was not involved in any illegal activity, and in the end the charges were dropped. But even then he had to undergo a lot of hardship and harassment. In your case I don't know whether you are hiding any important facts or not. You are not an old member of this forum and created this account after you were arrested.

[tornistenbaskaptan]

This has happened to a few users here, such as BurtW.

The thread from theymos can be seen here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=934268.0

But in his case, he was not involved in any illegal activity, and in the end the charges were dropped. But even then he had to undergo a lot of hardship and harassment. In your case I don't know whether you are hiding any important facts or not. You are not an old member of this forum and created this account after you were arrested.

I m old member just type under this nick because of everything is evidence  to lock you up for excessive  powerful government institutions.
I ll defend freedom all the way.
read carefully never used drug never involved drug and even not a cash trader of btc those guys keep sending attractive offers which i turned down too many times final threat i had cash in hand for business purposes  and stupidly said yes to UC guy.
DAE need to fight drug sellers not bitcoin holders or trader i feel like they target bitcoin and spent tax payers funds to hunt bitcoiners.
Be careful they will come after all of us.
PLEASE SOMEONE DM TO BURTW USER HE IS THE ONE CAN HELP ATTORNEY FEES ARE INSANE WHEN YOU INVOLVED WITH DEA FEDS.
THEY WILL COME AFTER ALL OF US IF SOMEONE DON NOT STAND UP AGAINST THEM STRONGLY, I LL DO MY BEST THIS IS INSANE.

[Harlot]

That's weird if you got arrested from money laundering than how on earth can you even post in this forum? Did you skipped the part amd mention that you have posted bail or something? Also what did the government provided defense attorney recommended you to do? Nonetheless if what you are saying is true and your transactions from your crypto dealings are clean then the burden of proof just got harder on their part, they need to have some kind of magic to come up 50k$ worth of transaction not linked to any of your past deals which would be hard for them if you got all things documented.

[tornistenbaskaptan]

out on bail signed, but everything seized and have no single dollar
bar attended attorney just did way simple things
and the attorney i made deal with and paid in front was total creepy who told me we go self surrendering but even his helper get lost on court.
Thanks moderator who remove restriction on this account.
Will try to burtw same way maybe i can raise some funds for attorney fees.
as said all money from clean business sources and family wired insane dea spending tax funds to track and trap bitcoiners i m not really on localtrader
i turned down many time UC offers because didnt want to do
Finally end of April i had some cash wanna buy some bitcoin and here we are.

[Harlot]

out on bail signed, but everything seized and have no single dollar

So why are you eveb searching for another attorney if you don't have any single dollar behind your back? You just don't expect a good one to do some kind of pro bono case for you because you just posted your situation online, it doesn't work that way. My advice is to stick with your attorney as if you really don't have any money left you don't have any other options left aside from him/her, like I said as long as you are clean nothing bad will happen to you and this shit storm would be over.

[tornistenbaskaptan]

keep search because fed attended lawyer means no lawyer attorney at all.
If anyone wants to help by build website like burt wagner case please pm me.
This is really insane get everything from people and ask them where is your attorney thanks god i ,m not in jail yet.
what a wonderful law enforcement offer %10 less price than market keep provoke and text even declined 10 times and get him with 10 agents WTF..
Drug seller stop regular people at street and ask for do you want sugar or etc.. they free and those sworn law enforcement chasing behind bitcoin guys.
 

[aftermkt]

I am an attorney operating in the crypto/payments space. Its perhaps odd as i closely track any crypto-related filings; and i haven't seen one since May 1 (in Arizona). All of this would be public record on Pacer or for non-attorneys on a site like courtlistener.com

[tornistenbaskaptan]

I am an attorney operating in the crypto/payments space. Its perhaps odd as i closely track any crypto-related filings; and i haven't seen one since May 1 (in Arizona). All of this would be public record on Pacer or for non-attorneys on a site like courtlistener.com

Case sealed now thats why can not be found

[Bit_Happy]

I am an attorney operating in the crypto/payments space. Its perhaps odd as i closely track any crypto-related filings; and i haven't seen one since May 1 (in Arizona). All of this would be public record on Pacer or for non-attorneys on a site like courtlistener.com

Case sealed now thats why can not be found

Why sealed, by the FEDs? Reality check, $50K is tiny for a serious Federal case to be made, and if they were using you to set an example for others to be afraid, then they would want publicity, not the opposite.

[josephdd1]

out on bail signed, but everything seized and have no single dollar

So why are you eveb searching for another attorney if you don't have any single dollar behind your back? You just don't expect a good one to do some kind of pro bono case for you because you just posted your situation online, it doesn't work that way. My advice is to stick with your attorney as if you really don't have any money left you don't have any other options left aside from him/her, like I said as long as you are clean nothing bad will happen to you and this shit storm would be over.

I call bullshit.

If this was real he would be rampaging around courtrooms rather than here.
If this was real and his money source real, feds wouldn't be after him JUST TO GET HIS SUV MONEY!

Get real guys! Plus this would be all over the news.

[Dapper]

Can we have the original post again in English?

[tornistenbaskaptan]

Can we have the original post again in English?

Sorry for English if anyone correct i ll be happy get correctone from pm.

No bull shit as soon as goes trial i ll put everything here. (what is my bullshit here please read Wagner story)
The real bullshits feds are going behind people instead of drug cartels.
My guess we hear much more soon..

[jerry0]

Were you the one selling btc for cash or vice versa?  Im a bit confused with your wording so i assume you are selling btc?   So you didnt want to sell your btc to him but he basically baited you to sell and give you a good percentage a few times?  Example you sell 5k worth of btc for 5250 usd cash?


I mean if you sell btc for cash... then deposit cash in bank and report it in your taxes, what is the issue here?  I believe if you are a bitcoin trader like doing face to face... you need a license.  But aren't those only if you do it frequently?  If you sell bitcoin for cash a few times... that is not your full time job....



Can someone clarify this?

[jerry0]

Okay so i believe i read it incorrectly... so you had cash and wanted to buy btc right?  You bought btc from others with cash few times.  But he offered you up to 10 percent discount for his btc for your cash?  Did you once ever bought btc from him?


So he offered like 55k worth of btc for 50k cash then?  If you cash is legit... what is the issue here?  How is that different from putting 50k on coinbase and buying 50k worth of btc there?  He also gives you a discount so now you are buying it at a discounted price which is good for you.  If your money is legit, what is the problem here?

[tornistenbaskaptan]

during 10 months had 4 transaction offer max 50k from undercover and unfortunately entrapped   was trying to get in btc at this last wave.
Now charged for money laundering criminal activity almost 20 different they added to case including game money on ebay also.
The idiot lawyer i had deal when goes first pretrial sold me and said the deal is not included this be patient and go further after this,
Boom home arrested, and now need another attorney but when it is FED attorney start from 75k to 750k crazy money for normal person outside (yep nafia guys will get out quick and keep sales drug at street)
Finally judge convinced and get free attorney.
THIS IS SHAME FED NEED SPENT TAX PAYERS MONEY FOR DRUG SELLERS NOT BITCOINERS.
What ever bitcoin community is ghost on twitter i dm to many bitcoin reach guys to help at least for attorney no one return John McAfee included.
Money source is clear have biz support accounts that money withdrawn from.


http://www.burtw.com/
This guy end up with Cancer now i do understand him.
Awesome country drug dealers fill the streets and fed dae chasing crytpo environment