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May 23, 2019, 04:28:19 PM
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Is there anything called "humanity" in this world? I almost forgot but yes it has. With respect, sometimes I don't see the purpose of religion. It is just a mode of diving people and making a unity that will be manipulated by religious leaders.

I actually tried to analyze the reason why people were chasing for their religions individually. It is because once you get to the point that you think you're at the top of all the humans. You will always find someone who you could consider as your alpha to help you with your visions.
That is the time you will look for God. Because the world won't give you a meaning anymore. After that, you will lead the people to serve the God you think he is. And build a religion. Because of your influence, people will sadly follow you. And it will be heard by their kids and the other generations.

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May 23, 2019, 09:23:05 PM
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^^^ Except that some religions don't even suggest a god/God. Atheism is one of them.

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June 02, 2019, 01:59:00 PM
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Religion teach you to do good to your fellowmen.thats why choose first religion and humanity will follow.
Sometime we forgot of humanity in this days but the relegion always remind you to do good give and share blessings to other specially poor people.

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June 02, 2019, 06:21:36 PM
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Why? Because any people that do this are part of the religion of Satan, even if they do not know it.

In the Revelation in the Bible, Satan is called Abaddon and Apollyon. These names mean destroyer.

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Don't worry, plenty of killings have happened in the name of your god too, in fact god himself killed a ton of people, many times, he also ordered other people to kill others, including their babies, not to mention slavery or rape.

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June 03, 2019, 07:55:46 AM
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Why? Because any people that do this are part of the religion of Satan, even if they do not know it.

In the Revelation in the Bible, Satan is called Abaddon and Apollyon. These names mean destroyer.

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Don't worry, plenty of killings have happened in the name of your god too, in fact god himself killed a ton of people, many times, he also ordered other people to kill others, including their babies, not to mention slavery or rape.
Religion has killed many people than any other human discovered and if this is not manage very well, time will come when they will not be human beings to worship any God as religion will consume humankind! It is a very sad thing that we allow religion to become a determinate on how we live and how we live.
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June 03, 2019, 08:33:00 AM
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Many extremists taking the life of people all in the name of religion, why?
There are two types of people who conduct these sort of violent behavior to another human being, the one who plan everything and the other part is that the people who can get brain washed easily, from my understanding everything depends upon money, they are getting enough funds to create these sort of unrest activities around the world and they have the skills to brain wash individuals who have extreme thinking and majority of them are in the age group of 12 to 25. My conclusion is, it is all about money.
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June 03, 2019, 09:43:12 AM
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Most people are in religion just because they were born into it.

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June 03, 2019, 09:52:37 AM
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You have to understand that religious people are really low IQ people / indoctrinated heavily or delusional. Radical Muslims actually believe they are doing us a favor by killing our babies because they will go directly to heaven, similarly they truly believe it's their duty to kill infidels, etc.

Your belief is not well-supported:

We examined the educational backgrounds of 75 terrorists behind some of the most significant recent terrorist attacks against Westerners. We found that a majority of them are college-educated, often in technical subjects like engineering. In the four attacks for which the most complete information about the perpetrators' educational levels is available -- the World Trade Center bombing in 1993, the attacks on the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998, the 9/11 attacks, and the Bali bombings in 2002 -- 53 percent of the terrorists had either attended college or had received a college degree. As a point of reference, only 52 percent of Americans have been to college. The terrorists in our study thus appear, on average, to be as well educated as many Americans.

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June 03, 2019, 11:36:40 AM
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You have to understand that religious people are really low IQ people / indoctrinated heavily or delusional. Radical Muslims actually believe they are doing us a favor by killing our babies because they will go directly to heaven, similarly they truly believe it's their duty to kill infidels, etc.

Your belief is not well-supported:

We examined the educational backgrounds of 75 terrorists behind some of the most significant recent terrorist attacks against Westerners. We found that a majority of them are college-educated, often in technical subjects like engineering. In the four attacks for which the most complete information about the perpetrators' educational levels is available -- the World Trade Center bombing in 1993, the attacks on the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998, the 9/11 attacks, and the Bali bombings in 2002 -- 53 percent of the terrorists had either attended college or had received a college degree. As a point of reference, only 52 percent of Americans have been to college. The terrorists in our study thus appear, on average, to be as well educated as many Americans.

A study of 75 people? Please look at real studies, all of them clearly show that higher education means less belief, you think scientists believe in the same % in god as normal citizens? Jesus, why would you even post this garbage?

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This is the reason I don't usually go to church. Despite the fact that I am a Christian, I do believe in God but I am not that kind of people that go to church every day. Also, I am not so emerged to that religion that I can kill people because of it. Despite the fact that I am a Christian, I still know what is morally right and morally wrong.

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June 03, 2019, 12:20:59 PM
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This is the reason I don't usually go to church. Despite the fact that I am a Christian, I do believe in God but I am not that kind of people that go to church every day. Also, I am not so emerged to that religion that I can kill people because of it. Despite the fact that I am a Christian, I still know what is morally right and morally wrong.

Which basically proves god is not real, the bible supposedly has the absolute morals and yet you are able to see and think for yourself and understand when the bible is wrong(which it shouldnt be) for instance you know killing is wrong or slavery but the bible encourages it many times.

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June 04, 2019, 09:09:16 AM
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Religion teach you to do good to your fellowmen.thats why choose first religion and humanity will follow.
Sometime we forgot of humanity in this days but the relegion always remind you to do good give and share blessings to other specially poor people.

Well, Not all religion does that Smiley. AFAIK and TBH, It's already part of our human nature to do good/bad to others even the context of religion is out of the picture. I'd also like to rephrased this line, "Sometime we forgot of humanity in this days..." to "Often times we forget religion but humanity reminds us what's best for the majority".



These extremists are feed by false teaching, they are controlled to what they're taught not by there will. Tbh, Religion nowadays don't promote humanity nor do care about it, mostly it became a networking style, religion is now a business Smiley. Like it or not it's now the norm.
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Many extremists taking the life of people all in the name of religion, why?

because they are morons, they cannot think for themselves.
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Consider the story of the good Samaritan, as told by Jesus.

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25 And a lawyer stood up and put Him to the test, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” 26 And He said to him, “What is written in the Law? How does it read to you?” 27 And he answered, “YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND; AND YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.” 28 And He said to him, “You have answered correctly; DO THIS AND YOU WILL LIVE.” 29 But wishing to justify himself, he said to Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”

30 Jesus replied and said, “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among robbers, and they stripped him and beat him, and went away leaving him half dead.

31 “And by chance a priest was going down on that road, and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.

32 “Likewise a Levite also, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side.

33 “But a Samaritan, who was on a journey, came upon him; and when he saw him, he felt compassion, 34 and came to him and bandaged up his wounds, pouring oil and wine on them; and he put him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn and took care of him.

35 “On the next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper and said, ‘Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I return I will repay you.’

36 “Which of these three do you think proved to be a neighbor to the man who fell into the robbers’ hands?”
37 And he said, “The one who showed mercy toward him.” Then Jesus said to him, “Go and do the same.”


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So, we see that true religion is to lift people up to, or above, religion.

There is a little piece of background that people often miss about this story, so that they judge the priest and the levite too harshly. These two guys had writings in their law that priests and levites were supposed to remain separate from the "crowd." They were not supposed to touch things that were or appeared to be "unclean" - in a spiritually unclean way.

The wrong thing that they had been taught about this was the cases when they were to remain separate. The time they were to remain separate had to do with times that they were acting in the ceremony of their religious offices. In general, they were to see that all hurt and harmed people were to be helped.

Would these two guys have used their cellphones to call 911 if they had had such? Nobody knows for sure. But Jesus straightened them out gently, with His parable, regarding where their hearts and compassion should have been.

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Man i ask myself this all the time. I have no idea why people choose to do so but it's always been this way so it hasn't changed imo. I feel like people cling to religion because that is their ultimate 'community' and everything outside of that doesn't matter. If their community loves and accepts them, the rest of the world is insignificant. 
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being a humanist will reduce you to be the money earning cattle of the capitalists,

living a religion might least you to a succeessful situation

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being a humanist will reduce you to be the money earning cattle of the capitalists,

living a religion might least you to a succeessful situation

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Living a religion might also lead you to killing other people/innocents because your god demands you to and I'm not talking only about muslims, christians too, their book has plenty of that, direct commands from god to people to kill others for stupid things like gathering sticks on the Sabbath.

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Many extremists taking the life of people all in the name of religion, why?
In my opinion, there many reasons for this. First one I can think of is they want everyone to have one belief, which is nearly impossible since each and everyone of us is different even we're in the same religion. As a result, the people getting forced have to fight back, which is the second reason, they fight back for what they believe. And last that I can think of, They have to deliver their agenda. Religions have different agenda, who knows maybe they also have hidden ones. In order to implement, they need to do some extreme stuffs.

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There are such religious people who are called extremists. This extremists think that for some "Saint" actions they will be blessed or they will be given a place in so called "heaven". That's why they think that they can take people's lives.
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Many extremists taking the life of people all in the name of religion, why?

Many extremists have the need to justify their crimes using religion but we are talking about different things here.
True religion promote peace, love and coperation between different people, religions, races etc.
So, we don't choose between religion and humanity but between good and bad people.

I think we need "Religion off" spray. LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEHUzNWnh5M

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Love each other as I have loved you

Lao Tzu
When the Tao is lost there is goodness
When goodness is lost there is morality
When morality is lost there is ritual
(My thought, i.e. religion)
Ritual is the husk of true faith
The beginning of chaos

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When I was a young man I was led to believe that there were organizations to kill my snakes for me, i.e. the church, i.e. the government
But when I got a little older I learned I had to kill them myself

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Keep you doped with religion, sex, and tv

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Imagine...nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too

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Someone said once, sorry I don't remember and I tried to find the quote, I think it was John Lennon,
That "religion is the measure of fear we have in us."

The more fear we have the more likely we are to kill, so hope we can learn to love ourselves and then other people too, cuz we're all.the same, pretty much.
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