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May 18, 2019, 09:25:59 AM
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I want to evaluate this whole plagiarism stuff as a mental disorder like robbery - reaping where one didn't sow. Plagiarists are intellectual thieves.

I like this maxim, "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime."
 
The affected accounts should peacefully serve out their ban.


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May 18, 2019, 09:36:35 AM
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I believe that it is worthwhile to offer participants an alternative punishment instead of a signature ban. To carry the signature to a certain point with reference to the rules of this forum. This will help most participants read the forum rules more often.
I am even ready to be a member of the group that will monitor the implementation of this decision.
That might actually not be such a bad idea! It would be like cooperating with the authorities for a slightly lighter sentence.
The banned members could wear a custom signature saying:


I was banned for plagiarising content. This servers as a warning to everyone to never copy and paste without providing a reference to the original source. Please read the rules and don't copy and paste!

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May 18, 2019, 09:51:16 AM
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Maybe maximum 4-6months and if they commit same offends whether with past or future post, they get permanent ban.

How about three days and also give them 100 howeycoins for being such great guys?


Deranking to newbies after remove permanent bans might make them mad, especially whom are here to work for campaigns. They mostly won't be able to come back (repromotions) to higher ranks. Because some (or most) of them even are not earned too much merits (or a single of merit) after 14 months since the birthday of merit system.

Please let us know why should we care about people who haven't earned are unable to earn merits and are here only for "work" going "mad"?

Therefore, such deranks/ demotions might results in another chaotic situation (due to massive complaints and appeals) in the forum, that might not what we expect for. Additionally, I don't think mods expect that (at least in near future) because they actually have huge workloads recent days due to perma-ban appeals and plagiarsim reports.

Yeah, let's also stop issuing parking tickets cause we have to hire people to hand them down.
How many ban appeals are there? 25? 50? 617 gazillion?

We've had lots of bans in the past, not as big as this one but after a brief period of posts flooding the meta there was a period of peace with one or two appeals a week. Besides, it's not like all the 2000 accounts that got banned will make a topic, some were already junk, red tagged, jr members with 0 merits.

I've browsed through the modlog and I saw lots that were last active since 2018 and even 2017.


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May 18, 2019, 09:59:00 AM
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Maybe maximum 4-6months and if they commit same offends whether with past or future post, they get permanent ban.

How about three days and also give them 100 howeycoins for being such great guys?

 Grin Fine by me also it'll be more interesting if they get offered 100 merits and $100 cash price each

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May 18, 2019, 10:46:52 AM
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I believe that it is worthwhile to offer participants an alternative punishment instead of a signature ban. To carry the signature to a certain point with reference to the rules of this forum. This will help most participants read the forum rules more often.
I am even ready to be a member of the group that will monitor the implementation of this decision.
That might actually not be such a bad idea! It would be like cooperating with the authorities for a slightly lighter sentence.
The banned members could wear a custom signature saying:


I was banned for plagiarising content. This servers as a warning to everyone to never copy and paste without providing a reference to the original source. Please read the rules and don't copy and paste!
Yeah, this won't be a bad idea. It will the biblical writing of the covenant on the hearts of all through a constant reminder. It surely will go a long way to deter many prospective plagiarists.


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May 18, 2019, 11:45:17 AM
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I want to evaluate this whole plagiarism stuff as a mental disorder like robbery - reaping where one didn't sow. Plagiarists are intellectual thieves.

I like this maxim, "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime."
Although true, some cases of plagiarism are older than the unofficial forum rules (July 21, 2014), and not everyone had bad intentions back then.
But if you've been here 5 years, a year without signature shouldn't stop you from posting. It is a long punishment, but still beats a perm ban.

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May 18, 2019, 11:53:13 AM
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Duration of ban depends on moderators and admin. Likely they are deciding case by case and based on contributions. I have seen few are banned for a years and few are banned for two years signature. I think this punishment is appropriate at least although mod could reduce it based current on contribution. So current ban period fair enough instead of permaban. If their intention is just join signature and earn money then perhaps they deserve permaban. Signature ban isn't really batter than permaban? Just say thanks to theymos because of this mercy. So overall I am not agree with OP.

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May 18, 2019, 12:19:47 PM
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You give people an inch and they want a mile. One or two years sig ban is better than not being able to post at all ever again. There's no excuses for copy and pasting other than greed and laziness and that should come along with a harsh punishment but it's certainly not as harsh as it was a week ago.

If a forum member have been lable "good for the forum", that's a users that have helped contributed positively to the growth of the forum either by quality contributions, scam/spam busting etc, I believe the 1-2years ban from wearing signatures is just too much. Maybe a lesser punishment should been introduced, I'm ok with the 60days or more temporary ban as the case may be but for the signature aspect, I suggest it should be reduced to months. Maybe maximum 4-6months and if they commit same offends whether with past or future post, they get permanent ban.

I know they have already received some mercy by not getting permanent banned like regular users but the forum administrators should show more mercy as these users have showed interest in making the forum better, it should be reduced to months as this will definitely affect their activeness on the forum.

From a concerned forum member who haven't be affected in any form.

Why do you care so much about this? If they're good for the forum then they can continue doing what they do and monetising their signature is irrelevant to that, but they should be grateful that we've relaxed the rule at all.

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