Google suspends Huawei's Android support

[blockman]

Wtf? Now huawei will only use an open source code of android?

Yes, it's Hongmeng OS

(https://www.businessinsider.com/huawei-android-alternative-os-details-2019-5#hongmeng-os-is-likely-the-plan-b-operating-system-huawei-mentioned-previously-2)

[darklus123]

But guess what the Huaweii team are actually prepared for this situation

Huawei has said it has spent the last few years preparing a contingency plan by developing its own technology in case it is blocked from using Android. Some of this technology is already being used in products sold in China, the company has said.

The impact is expected to be minimal in the Chinese market. Most Google mobile apps are banned in China, where alternatives are offered by domestic competitors such as Tencent and Baidu.

Huawei’s European business, its second-biggest market, could be hit as Huawei licenses these services from Google in Europe.

Would Huawei be able to rely on domestic sales in China alone though? I know these phones are supposed to usually last shorter than an iPhone but there also other domestic brands in China it have to compete with.

Maybe this would force them to focus on Asia.

I am not so sure but based on the statement that was given by Huaweii , you will only be able to have minimal effect if currently you are a Huaweii phone user as google will  only suspend their services to the later Huaweii phones. I am not so sure on how are they going to do it but one thing is clear to me here it can really affect their sales as most of the android users are actually relying too much on the playstore and other Google services. The effect of this is worldwide therefore if you are living outside China you will surely no longer support future Huaweii phone products because it is actually not just Google who removed their services from this phone, there were also more famous brands from US.

[Jet Cash]

It's a fairly obvious attempt by Washington to try to hang on to their own spying activities. Their technology is out of date, and Apple relies on China anyway. Huawei is going to dominate the world with 5G ( which most of us don't want ), and they will move to open source for a mobile OS. I welcome it, I'm fed up with Google constantly trying to install aps that I don't want. If Huawei brings out a Google amd Microsoft free phone, then I will probably buy it. The only thing I will miss is the journey planner.

[Juggy777]

This is a big deal for both Huawei, Google and the entire market of smartphone.
Huawei won't get android updates and most of the google apps. This would force it to leave Android platform and seek for something else.
This would essentially destroy the current market of Huawei and it's currently the 2nd largest smartphone producer.
This is a new form of trade war that is going to have a longer impact on how we shape the future of our earth.
What type of consequences do you believes such action bring in in the short and long run?

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48330310

https://mashable.com/article/huawei-google-android-license-revoked/

The smartphones war is clearly being manipulated in favour of Google, as those that have used Huawei phones will attest that they are affordable and way better than google phones. This ban by google shall crush Huawei market outside China, but Huawei has said they were prepared for it so it’ll be interesting to see what new platform they’ll come up with. Does anyone here think that Huawei should buy Blackberry and use it’s Blackberry Secure software on their phones to counter googles move, as using Blackberry Secure will prove to the world that their phones are secured too.

[mindrust]

Huawei is widely believed to be an arm of the Chinese Government by Western/Five Eyes intelligence agencies, although Huawei and the Chinese Government both deny this.

And google is actually an arm of the US government. Whatever you tell about Huawei, applies to google as well.

I don't favor any sides in this war but what I know is the Chinese has no respect for the intellectual rights and that's why they are going to lose.

Very good hardware without any original software inside won't be selling much.
I know the westerners won't be buying any Huawei phones if google play isn't available on them. Nobody will be using wechat, wethat, wethis crap no matter how good the software is.

Will the Chinese buy? They already do. It is because they already have no other choice. (Google is banned in China)

China saw this storm coming years ago. That's why they didn't allow any google services and built their own infrastructure in China.

Now the US wants to do the same. I wouldn't let Huawei to build infrastructure in my country neither if I was Trump. That's a no brainer decision.

As you see, it is a bit more than just selling phones. It is about controlling the information flow.

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Ffs, the same shit is happening even in Turkey, the government raised the taxes on the imported mobile phones that high, it costs $2k to buy an iphone which is $1k in the US. All they want from you to buy the phones of their local brand. (Even though they get the parts from China and the software is modified Android) Doesn't matter, they force you to buy that shit phone...

[xvids]

Now this would be out of the android phone that I would buy in the future,
What a shame they have a great specs and really great phone but without google I wouldn't enjoy using android phones.
Without google the users would surely be in trouble because if they want to install some applications they have to take the risk on downloading some apk files.

[r1a2y3m4]

And google is actually an arm of the US government. Whatever you tell about Huawei, applies to google as well.

I think there could be a wrong set of analogy in here. At the second sentence I think it should be … about US*, applies to google as well or vise versa.

Huawei Founder: 'US actions underestimate our abilities'

Just leaving this here, is this a sign of another OS or another search engine?

[Siren]

Huawei is widely believed to be an arm of the Chinese Government by Western/Five Eyes intelligence agencies, although Huawei and the Chinese Government both deny this. It is believed that Huawei equipment contains "backdoors" that the Chinese Government can use to either disable the equipment in the future (cutting off communications), or actually transmit (and/or leak) sensitive information.

Never comes to my mind this one but it seems that this is a legit issue that world must know,and as Chinese wanted to ruler the world and took over the superpower country in the world

In general, this should be considered a good thing.

Yeah I guess so,and it’s really good that it was revealed earlier than longer

If the above is true, Huawei will continue to operate with government support, although much less people will buy their phones. Huawei still has access to the open source version of Android.

Here in Asia so far according to the local news people can still continue using google apps ,but not sure until when

A bigger concern for me about Huawei equipment is the equipment that supports backbones of communications networks, such as switches, and wireless antenna. 

And this is what we don’t want to have,being in cryptoour privacy is the most important thing but Huawei seems to take  this from us

[Mometaskers]

I don't think this is an issue for their Chinese market since Google's service are not allowed there anyway. But yes, it's a big headache for those in US and EU that already own Huawei products. Not receiving updates could further compromise their security and I'm not sure if one can just simply switch OS like is done with PC.

The smartphones war is clearly being manipulated in favour of Google, as those that have used Huawei phones will attest that they are affordable and way better than google phones. This ban by google shall crush Huawei market outside China, but Huawei has said they were prepared for it so it’ll be interesting to see what new platform they’ll come up with. Does anyone here think that Huawei should buy Blackberry and use it’s Blackberry Secure software on their phones to counter googles move, as using Blackberry Secure will prove to the world that their phones are secured too.

Huawei is not the only cheap phone manufacturer from China though it probably is one of the largest (or at least one of the most familiar). Vivo, Oppo and Lenovo are huge in Asia and they can, um, capitalize on the demise of Huawei unless Google just blanket bans all Chinese phone brands.

They can only pull off this trick once, the remaining manufacturers would find ways to not be completely reliant on it.

Personally I use an ASUS. I don't even know anyone using a Google phone. It's either you flaunt your iPhone or you use an Android phone, any
Android phone except Google's. 

[tiknack]

Is it possible that the same thing will happen with Xiaomi? What are your thoughts guys

[merchantofzeny]

Seems to be big news these past few days. Huawei is really in a pickle. Even if they make their own OS they'd have a hard time competing with Play Store support. Good luck getting people to create apps for the new OS.

This pretty much kills them outside China since even if they get a decent system running, that bad press from the espionage scandal would still affect sales. Maybe people in Asia who tend to use cheaper China brands wouldn't be bothered but they'll still probably just opt for the other brands instead of Huawei.

But then again, who know how much those other brands have links to the CCP. It's not a matter of doing something "bad" that's the problem, it's getting caught.

[Golftech]

Now this would be out of the android phone that I would buy in the future,
What a shame they have a great specs and really great phone but without google I wouldn't enjoy using android phones.
Without google the users would surely be in trouble because if they want to install some applications they have to take the risk on downloading some apk files.

Really needs to consider before purchasing this brand of phone device.

As it will affects the mentalities of their possible customers, without google / playstore it will be a tough journey competing with giant phone services around, they needed to create their own system and make same a like with this apps, lets future decide to the fate of this phone company, we have
to wait if whatever the company will soon to offer after this.

[yesiam6]

Isn't it likely that china will reply by banning apple phones in china as a reply to the blacklisting of huawei?
Also typical google behaviour they knew of all the "accusations" but only once the trump blacklist hit they cut all ties to huawei.

[tomahawk9]

Isn't it likely that china will reply by banning apple phones in china as a reply to the blacklisting of huawei?

It's likely to happen.

But, I think China is debating on whether they should go for a more severe move, like restricting rare-earth ore (used in phones) export to US, that would be far more devastating to Apple than their products being blacklisted in China.

I'm saying this because of the recent news about the chinese president visiting a rare earth factory^[1]. That visit is far from being 'random', that's a power move from Xi.

1. https://www.businessinsider.com/trade-war-xi-jinping-rare-earth-factory-hint-cripple-us-tech-military-2019-5

[Spendulus]

Isn't it likely that china will reply by banning apple phones in china as a reply to the blacklisting of huawei?

It's likely to happen.

But, I think China is debating on whether they should go for a more severe move, like restricting rare-earth ore (used in phones) export to US, that would be far more devastating to Apple than their products being blacklisted in China.

I'm saying this because of the recent news about the chinese president visiting a rare earth factory^[1]. That visit is far from being 'random', that's a power move from Xi.

1. https://www.businessinsider.com/trade-war-xi-jinping-rare-earth-factory-hint-cripple-us-tech-military-2019-5

The so called "rare earth elements" are really not so rare, and I do not think China restricting these will have any effect whatsoever on tech industry.

[tvbcof]

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1. https://www.businessinsider.com/trade-war-xi-jinping-rare-earth-factory-hint-cripple-us-tech-military-2019-5

The so called "rare earth elements" are really not so rare, and I do not think China restricting these will have any effect whatsoever on tech industry.

Furthermore, this story has been around for about 10 years.  More than enough time to look at one's strategic reserves and set up to deal with such a 'crisis'.  Cell phones are hardly the only thing which contains 'electronics.'  This strikes me as a diversion.  Especially here in 2019.

If a supply problem 'afflicts' the United States it would almost certainly be because that was exactly 'the plan.'  Equally certain is that people would be advised to put their hands on their wallets because you are about to be robbed.  I also wouldn't be surprised to see the wonderful nation of Israel to 'come to the rescue' and save use with their brilliance.

[r1a2y3m4]

So this is just an update of this issue. Since I like this issue a lot and made multiple of research out of curiosity. So this will be the actual image of future Huawei phones.

Kidding aside, QUALCOMM and Intel stopped supplying for Huawei. Sadly there would be no more snapdragon microchips .

Well as for the Chinese people they are now destroying their iPhones in support for the Huawei. Here is the link for the video.

Safe to say that this is keep on getting worse. But here's a good news for those who supports Huawei phones. They confirmed that they built their own OS. Since the war started a long time ago, they built an OS for themselves just in case and it was confirmed last March 14, 2019.

[tvbcof]

What would be cool would be if Huawei made a deal with OpenBSD to brand a secure phone (for use only outside of mainland China of course.)  This group maybe has  the street cred to jumpstart a small market.

The name recognition may rub off onto Huawei's other products although it shouldn't.  It also may foster the (probably false) belief that Huawei is somewhat autonomous from the CCP government.

[Naida_BR]

That's really bad news for Huawei and mostly because their users have already created the need for Google apps such as Maps or Youtube.
It is a new way of trading war and it will either make Huawei stronger as it will no longer rely on Google apps and probably they will create their own or they will be destroyed and lose many users.

[TheCoinGrabber]

Would Huawei be able to rely on domestic sales in China alone though? I know these phones are supposed to usually last shorter than an iPhone but there also other domestic brands in China it have to compete with.

Maybe this would force them to focus on Asia.

I am not so sure but based on the statement that was given by Huaweii , you will only be able to have minimal effect if currently you are a Huaweii phone user as google will  only suspend their services to the later Huaweii phones. I am not so sure on how are they going to do it but one thing is clear to me here it can really affect their sales as most of the android users are actually relying too much on the playstore and other Google services. The effect of this is worldwide therefore if you are living outside China you will surely no longer support future Huaweii phone products because it is actually not just Google who removed their services from this phone, there were also more famous brands from US.

Well good to know that Google didn't throw current users under a bus. I expect the updates to come slower though.

I'm wondering if app developers would make versions of their programs that would work on whatever new OS Huawei uses or if they'd be too afraid that they'd get pulled out of Playstore if they do extend support to the new platform.