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August 29, 2019, 04:13:58 PM
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Bullshit

You are posting some stolen images from the web, that proves nothing. That scammers should hire a better paid shill. Anyway congrats with your first negative feedback. For more detail see the scam accusation thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148594.0
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1. Send an email and message to the official accounts of each of the team members to confirm their identity and confirmation of participation in the project.
RESULT: The majority answered affirmatively, except 3 members.

If you sent it to the "@bluehillmining.com" address, anybody could have answered.

4. I requested a private conference by Zoom directly with the CEO of MIZE NETWORK Mr. Adrian Jacuzzi, he accepted it without hesitation and I had the opportunity to ask him more than 30 questions about the project and his past as a project promoter, which I answer reasonable way.

Adrian Jacuzzi is a well known Ponzi scheme promoter.

https://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/mize-network-review-adrian-jacuzzi-graduates-from-infinitum-flame/

I would run away from anything he openly endorses.

As a matter of fact, it looks like BHM is being inexorably tied to Jacuzzi's latest Ponzi adventure:

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Adrian Jacuzzi’s Mize Network has collapsed again, prompting the launch of PowerMine.

Mize Network launched last year and saw affiliates pay up to €25,000 EUR to join.

Commissions within Mize Network itself were tied to the recruitment of new affiliates.

Cryptocurrency fraud was introduced with the launch of PowerNodes, a Ponzi scheme within a pyramid scheme if you will.

PowerNodes saw affiliates invested in an unnamed ERC-20 token. The company gave them more tokens as a return, and if there was enough new investment Mize Network affiliates could cash out.

As I write this the PowerNodes website has an Alexa ranking of 5.7 million, which for a Ponzi scheme corresponds with a collapse.

Cue the launch of PowerMine last month, which appears to be more of the same.

POWERMINE is a BHF-Tokens package (asset-backed tokens) that allows you to participate in the PRE-STO, a gateway to Blue Hill Mining, which is made by Blue Hill Foundation as a financing strategy.

One key characteristic of POWERMINE is that it’s limited and exclusive for the registered Mize Network’s members.

BHF tokens appear to be new, with whatever token was used in PowerNodes being abandoned.

Tokens can set up at little to no cost, so it’s not surprising to see Mize Network set them up on a whim each time they reboot.

As for Blue Hill Mining, it doesn’t exist beyond a website set up to dupe investors.

The ruse behind the company is imaginary mining operations in Mongolia, purportedly “almost the entire size of” Lichtenstein.

Even if it did exist though, the fact remains that neither Adrian Jacuzzi, Mize Network, PowerNodes, PowerMine or Blue Hill Mining are registered to offer securities in any jurisdiction they operate in.

Despite operating illegally, PowerMine are soliciting investment in BHF tokens from €247 (4251 tokens) to €4997 (86,001 tokens).

Same story as Mize Network’s previous Ponzi. Affiliates invest in worthless tokens and can cash out for as long as there’s new investment to steal.

Once that new investment dies down, kaboom.

Seeing as this is Mize Network’s third reboot (second Ponzi reboot), expect a similar timeline with inevitable losses as PowerNodes.

There are dozens of articles about how PowerNodes and Mize Network are scams. Blue Hill Mining is simply a way to pass the losses to a new round of suckers. You spoke with the scam master himself without doing any research on him. If you would have then you'd know that Adrian Jacuzzi = scam artist.

https://onlinewealthchronicles.com/mize-network-review-scam-compensation-pay-plan-breakdown/

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I know that the past companies that Mr. Jaccuzi was involved with were shut down due to it being a Ponzi Scheme.

I see a lot of similarities with The Mize Networks and don’t personally see this to be a long-running venture.

The amounts that of investments that are listed can really hurt and possibly destroy an investor.

Just be careful in any investment that you make.

I definitely wouldn’t consider the Mize Network to be a safe investment no matter how I look at it.

15. I recommended this project to my circle surrounded by friendships and the reward structure they have through Mizenetwork allowed me to recover 20% of the investment.

Congrats, you're now knee-deep in a MLM / Ponzi. Have fun being hated for suckering your friends into a scam.

16. Your BHM token is already listed in ETHERSCAN waiting to be launched:
https://etherscan.io/token/0x32a90d93e208596ed2f4bcfcba8249d5e8a64de0

It takes less than 5 minutes to generate an Ethereum token smart contract. Anybody can do it for an extraordinarily cheap price.

I invested when the token value was at 0.045 cents of Euro and now it is at 0.085 cents of Euro, so I have already started to win.

According to who? Its only for sale through the BHM and BHF websites and not traded anywhere. The Ethereum contract address you provided lists 5 token owners, and you're not one of them.

Research the company for yourself, call everywhere and verify that it is legal and do not believe what a few say, because you may be missing a great opportunity, in fact, your Pre-STO ends on August 31 that is to say in 3 days and the value of the token will go from 0.085 to 0.14 Euro cents.

BHM may decide to increase the price of their token sold to new investors, but its value will always be zero. This project is an utter scam and you have defended it poorly.

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BLUEHILL MINING CAN BECOME AN INCREDIBLE PROJECT.

However, in each new thread of conversation, 2 users have been in charge of counteracting and attacking the project.
I invested in Bluehill Mining over $ 9,000 EUROS, specifically invested what I am willing to lose.
It takes 5 months to make this decision, until you are completely sure.
And now I make the decision to defend the project thanks to the hundreds of inquiries I made.

We show you a summary of what I did to be more sure of my investment:

1. Send an email and message to the official accounts of each of the team members to confirm their identity and confirmation of participation in the project.
RESULT: The majority answered affirmatively, except 3 members.

2. Send an email to the BlueHill Mining Advisor to confirm their advisory participation with the project.
RESULT: 2 of 3 answered affirmatively

3. Send an email to the partner SWISSCOM BLOCKCHAIN.
RESULT: Affirmative Response.

4. I requested a private conference by Zoom directly with the CEO of MIZE NETWORK Mr. Adrian Jacuzzi, he accepted it without hesitation and I had the opportunity to ask him more than 30 questions about the project and his past as a project promoter, which I answer reasonable way.

4. I had a short conversation through the Official Linked of the BlueHill CEO Mr. Kurt Becker

5. I had short conversations in the official Linked accounts with:
- FEDERICO DION: Responsible for the communication strategy
- ANSGAR DIEKMANN: Engineer in charge of the technical part of the project.
- ISRAEL GUERRERO: Project spokesperson (I met him personally)


6. In the official Linked group are all the people who collaborate and work for the project.

7. Once I invested, I asked to see technical documents of the project, apostillery, certificates and photos of the mine which they sent to me and I have them saved, they even let me see the signed contracts.








8. In this group they comment that the mine exists and is registered in the name of the company BAYAJTATU so it is believed that Bluehill Mining does not exist, however in the technical documents they do not ignore this fact, they really refer to BAYAJTATU as owner and they state that they bought a part of all the land that BAYAJTATU owns just last year, however, because it was a recent purchase, BAYAJTATU for still having the largest amount of the land, the official pages of Mongolia still register as owner the company BAYAJTATU.

I can't show everything, for confidentiality issues.

9. His project was verified in AFRICA 4.0 one of the most important Blockchain events in the world, where they not only had a stand, but also the opportunity to publicize the project.
There are photos and evidence that they were at such an event



10. They were at the Blockchain Cruise and at the CritoLatin Fest in Colombia and at some other relevant events in Hong Kong.

11. They have been commented on more than 20 pages of projects and news, among those are:
FORBES: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ilkerkoksal/2019/06/28/why-rising-number-of-mining-companies-are-embracing-blockchain-technology/#15b24d8726ae
THE COINTELEGRAPH: https://cointelegraph.com/press-releases/blue-hill-mine-the-top-blue-collar-cryptoasset-project-of-2019
HOTCRYPTONEWS: https://hotcryptonews.com/2019/04/04/how-blockchain-may-help-the-cobalt-in-smartphones-and-electric-cars-be-ethically-sourced/
BITCOINWIKI: https://en.bitcoinwiki.org/wiki/Blue_Hill_Foundation
HACKERNOON: https://hackernoon.com/from-crypto-mining-to-programmable-ownership-of-mining-operations-16570853df38
NEWSBTC: https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/05/16/crypto-valley-project-turning-bitcoins-into-gold/
USETHEBITCOIN: https://usethebitcoin.com/hedge-against-the-stock-and-crypto-markets-with-this-massive-tokenized-copper-mine/
WEARE121: https://www.weare121.com/121techinvestment-hk/client/blue-hill-foundation/
TECHBULLION: https://www.techbullion.com/hedge-against-the-stock-and-crypto-markets-with-this-massive-tokenized-copper-mine/
COIN TURK: https://coin-turk.com/komodo-kmd-nedir-nereden-alinir
I can't name them all for being many pages

12. Your STO is on the list of many Projects and ICOS pages waiting to be officially an STO and have your Token for public sale.
https://foundico.com/ico/blue-hill-foundation.html
https://icopatrol.io/icos/blue-hill-foundation
https://icobench.com/ico/blue-hill-foundation
https://www.trackico.io/ico/blue-hill-foundation/
https://en.coinjinja.com/ico/blue-hill-foundation
https://coincodex.com/sto/blue-hill-foundation/
https://cryptototem.com/blue-hill-foundation-bhf-sto/
I can't name them all for being many pages

13. It is true that they have Boots in the telegram and Bitcointalk messages, ask the same people to the project people and in a way it is a campaign to stimulate the participation and comments of people interested in the project.

14. I know 20 people from the expansion and publicity team who always face and respond immediately. They are responsible for disseminating the event in social networks and conferences for Latin America, Spain and Africa and the rest of the world.

15. I recommended this project to my circle surrounded by friendships and the reward structure they have through Mizenetwork allowed me to recover 20% of the investment.

16. Your BHM token is already listed in ETHERSCAN waiting to be launched:
https://etherscan.io/token/0x32a90d93e208596ed2f4bcfcba8249d5e8a64de0

17. They criticize that the photos they use to promote the company do not correspond to the mine and it is because they have not yet begun the exploration and exploitation operations, it is still a desert without machines or personnel and the idea of doing an STO is to have the financing to start, so they turn to other sources of different image to make people see what the company will become in the future.

18. Have publicly: Whitepaper, Lightpaper, Market Research, Terms Conditions
and once you register you can see: State Registration, Project Appraisal, Presentation, General Authority for State Registration, Pre STO Plan, STO Plan

19. Conference by CEO Dr. Kurt Becker:
https://www.facebook.com/MizeNetworkOfficial/videos/395442511011459/
Linked de CEO Dr. Kurt Becker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kurt-becker-6a60731a/

20. Se encuentran en las redes sociales más importantes:
https://twitter.com/BH_Foundation1
https://www.facebook.com/bluehillfoundation/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bluehillfoundation
https://medium.com/blue-hill-foundation
https://www.reddit.com/user/bluehillfoundation
https://t.me/bluehillfoundation
Telegram included

CONCLUSION: The project is just beginning, it is too early to judge something that is just establishing connections in the market, its Token price at this time is very low because officially it is NOT an STO so there is a risk.

They are in the process of having the regulatory framework before the FINMA and the SEC
So my advice is that if you do not want to risk Do not invest and wait for them to really become an STO and your token costs 20 times more, once you launch the Exchanges in which Binance is included.
If they demonstrate regulation to FINMA and the SEC and their token is in the Exchange, you can already invest with more confidence. No one forces you to take the risk now.
But it is unfortunate that 2 or 3 people are determined to attack this project with just 3 months of launch.

I have investigated the true frauds and none have so many members willing to show their faces and show you the whole process that they are carrying out in a technical way.
They cannot walk showing official documents on any forum page, for everything there is a protocol.
The mine is still an unexplored and unexploded field as you can see in the photos, the project will not make you rich overnight, its profitability is projected in a period of approximately 4 to 5 years, which can last a new mine to grow and enter the stock market. However, in the worst case they claim to be able to pay you back the initial investment in an x2 in case they definitely do very badly.

I invested when the token value was at 0.045 cents of Euro and now it is at 0.085 cents of Euro, so I have already started to win.

Research the company for yourself, call everywhere and verify that it is legal and do not believe what a few say, because you may be missing a great opportunity, in fact, your Pre-STO ends on August 31 that is to say in 3 days and the value of the token will go from 0.085 to 0.14 Euro cents.

If you need to know what the project is, you can ask me by email: leodancortes11@gmail.com
I cannot place everything here, for confidentiality, but I will defend the project.


I feel honoured to have a special mention but I feel the need to share this opportunity with other SCAM BUSTERS.

BlueHill is a SCAM

If anyone wishes to investigate any project, especially this BlueHill Mining Scam then please do so using independent contacts. Anyone can setup fake e-mails pretending to be official or to be this person or that. Don't use an e-mail provided by them, research it yourself and find an independent contact.

Any links from the Mize network is tainted as this project has been proven a scam.

Any photos/videos can be doctored and purchased as already proven (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5152373.msg52211924#msg52211924)

Hmmm I wonder how many articles are written and paid for (I know, check the disclaimer at end of articles) or the authors have contacts with the Mize network.... it's easy to check guys....

I also wonder if Bitconnect ever had a booth, did they ever attend a blockchain event? Wasn't that a scam?.....What about Raisex.io Exchange? Tourist coin?.... I'm not sure why you would use a photo of a booth to prove  the project MUST be real when other scams also use these tools.

Why do you say "They are in the process of having the regulatory framework before the FINMA and the SEC" when the token was going to be listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange?

In regards to your BAYAJTATU link...why are you showing a certificate for this company dated 2007, it doesn't show it was recently purchased. In fact the online database for company registrations is up-to-date otherwise they are not legally registered.
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August 30, 2019, 10:50:24 AM
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Just a quick reminder on who is who.......

⭐️ We would like to continue introducing you to the professional team of  Blue Hill Mining project, and today we would like to talk about another participant – Industrial engineering assistant SVEN KOTISSEK!

⭐️ SVEN KOTISSEK is a graduate in Industrial engineering (bachelor's degree) from the University of Dortmund. He has practical experience in project management, is a real expert in the field of information technology and a professional analyst in the field of financial engineering and modeling.

⭐️ To contact SVEN KOTISSEK and ask him your questions about  Blue Hill Mining project, reach him at his personal email address sk@bluehillmining.com or right in the comments below this post!

🔺 Learn more about the team of the project Blue Hill Mining on our site https://www.bluehillmining.com/ in the section "Team".






Sven Kotissek (and Yannick Becker) are different people in your Aug 2018 version of the white paper:








Blue Hill Mining/Foundation is a SCAM





Would you trust a project that fabricates their team members?
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Would you trust a project that fabricates their team members?

Stolen identities and plagiarized whitepaper. No one sober and with clear mind will invest in such "Project" That idiots spent a lot of money for ICO bench listing and could not hire real team members and create a real whitepaper ? That is just ridiculous....
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BLUEHILL MINING CAN BECOME AN INCREDIBLE PROJECT.



8. In this group they comment that the mine exists and is registered in the name of the company BAYAJTATU so it is believed that Bluehill Mining does not exist, however in the technical documents they do not ignore this fact, they really refer to BAYAJTATU as owner and they state that they bought a part of all the land that BAYAJTATU owns just last year, however, because it was a recent purchase, BAYAJTATU for still having the largest amount of the land, the official pages of Mongolia still register as owner the company BAYAJTATU.

I can't show everything, for confidentiality issues.



Useless point using an old certificate (2007) to prove the licence is held by Bayajtatu, it didn't back up your point.

What would be great if an up-to-date database could be accessed and be provided by an independent source...I don't know...like the official Mongolian website... that would clear everything up about this company (Bayajtatu) and making it easy to Find Blue Hill Mining/ Foundation or whatever name is given this time. It's great that land area is specifically recorded especially when dealing with precious minerals - it is all carefully documented. It's also nice the online data base has recently been upgraded to show up-to-date info on company licensing as required by law.



https://www.mining-mongolia.com/list
https://www.mrpam.gov.mn
http://geonet.mris.mn/geonetwork/srv/eng/catalog.search#/home
https://webgis.mris.mn/#/
http://mrpam.gov.mn/mrpam/indexen.html

https://e-reporting.eitimongolia.mn/analysisByCompany/2045  <------Bayajtatu licences (XV-00014307 and XV-00014308) VALID UNTIL 2020

And they didn't sell any land recently either as fraudulently indicated,  as the licences are granted with the exact land areas and have been carefully documented with this INDEPENDENT website. And it is UP-TO-DATE!

So when you claim Blue Hill Mining "... bought a part of all the land that BAYAJTATU owns just last year, however, because it was a recent purchase...the official pages of Mongolia still register as owner the company BAYAJTATU. WRONG!

cough cough cough - No it doesn't.

The Mongolian Gov have an online Cadastre Division - MRPAM that provides a written report dated  July, 2019 and covers all national/foreign companies involved with mining. https://www.mrpam.gov.mn/article/133/ (these are monthly reports - https://www.mrpam.gov.mn/public/pages/133/stat.report.2019.07.eng.pdf english version).

Check out 3.7. in the above report. LIST OF COMPANIES REGISTERED WITH INTERNATIONAL STOCK EXCHANGE COMPANIES OPERATING IN MONGOLIA'S MINING SECTOR, 2018-2019

or

3.8. LIST OF COMPANIES REGISTERED WITH INTERNATIONAL STOCK EXCHANGE COMPANIES OPERATING IN MONGOLIA'S MINING SECTOR, 2018-2019

or

Check out the topic: COUNT OF VALID LICENSES AND AREA SIZE (and also https://e-reporting.eitimongolia.mn/analysisByCompany/2045)



So Blue Hill Mining/Foundation is a SCAM
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http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329

This is an official Mongolian website that clearly shows Bayajtatu has a foreign shareholder.

In fact if you were just to register an account at bluehillfoundation.com you would be able to see all state registration documents.

Not only that, but also the appraisal report done by Royal Haskoning on behalf of Bayajtatu. How on earth did BHF manage to get their hands on that I wonder.

But the pre sale is done and dusted. Let's wait till the end of year for the registration with FINMA.
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http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329

This is an official Mongolian website that clearly shows Bayajtatu has a foreign shareholder.

In fact if you were just to register an account at bluehillfoundation.com you would be able to see all state registration documents.

Not only that, but also the appraisal report done by Royal Haskoning on behalf of Bayajtatu. How on earth did BHF manage to get their hands on that I wonder.

But the pre sale is done and dusted. Let's wait till the end of year for the registration with FINMA.

Hey Bubba06255003! Yes let's wait and see. What jurisdiction does the FINMA cover again and what jurisdiction is the BHM Token suppose to available on, Toronto? It doesn't make any sense does it.  Huh

Bubba06255003 did you miss the post from WIDGAR claiming s/he have already invested in Bluehill Mining over $ 9,000 EUROS and has all the documentation proving this not a scam. Point 8 should be an interest for you:

"8. In this group they comment that the mine exists and is registered in the name of the company BAYAJTATU so it is believed that Bluehill Mining does not exist, however in the technical documents they do not ignore this fact, they really refer to BAYAJTATU as owner and they state that they bought a part of all the land that BAYAJTATU owns just last year, however, because it was a recent purchase, BAYAJTATU for still having the largest amount of the land, the official pages of Mongolia still register as owner the company BAYAJTATU".

APPARENTLY it states that part of the land was purchased from BAYAJTATU last year and because it's SUCH a RECENT purchase, the documentation is incorrect. SO now WIDGAR claims the paperwork shows BAYAJTATU isn't the company Blue Hill Mining own at all, but rather a BHM company purchased land from BAYAJTATU, and the company BAYAJTATU has NOTHING to do with Blue Hill Mining.

Who's lying, is it you Bubba06255003 or WIDGAR because you contradict each other. My money is both of you are liars as this is a SCAM.
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Royal Haskoning dhv have all international projects listed publicly:

https://www.royalhaskoningdhv.com/en-gb/projects/view-our-projects-on-a-map



Here are all Royal Haskoning dhv partners/memberships

https://www.royalhaskoningdhv.com/en-gb/about-us/memberships



Projects as required by law are publicly available due to the environmental impact. Details in contracts are obviously private but due to the nature of the Mining business all info is up for grabs as it affects the community.

So how did Blue Hill Mining get any report, the same way anyone can. Did Royal Haskoning ACTUALLY provide the report? - well if you received this report from Blue Hill Mining then you didn't get the report from an independent source so you deserve to kiss your $$ goodbye.

The launch of the digital report online solution from royalhaskoningdhv.com will help me out....cough cough cough. Guess what....



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These are not ALL the projects that Royal Haskoning has ever been involved in. These are the ones they like to advertise on their website.
Where is the Nicaragua Canal project which they were involved in, or the One Angel Square project in Manchester which they designed or the Seine-Nord canal project which they overlooked? Where are these listed on the list of projects they are involved in or have been involved in.

Blue hill mining is not a partner with Royal Haskining, they are just advisors to Blue hill mining so would not be listed as their partners.

So you say it's easy to get a confidential report from Royal Haskoning. In that case please get a link to a feasibility or analytical study Royal Haskoning have done for any of the projects they have listed on their website. Thanks.

You seem to have got things mixed up. The Toronto stock exchange listing will happen AFTER the buy back plan in late 2022.
The FINMA license is for the security token. 2 different things. So first the FINMA license for the security token. Once all the tokens have been bought back THEN they will apply for listing on the Toronto Stock exchange. Comprende?

Lastly being a shareholder of Bayajtatu means you own the % of all their assets. Not really hard to understand. So if you own 30% of their shares, you own 30% of their land, mine, property etc, just like any shareholder for any company. Not sure why this is hard to understand.

http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329

This link clearly shows Bayajtatu has a foreign shareholder. Interesting.....
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This WIDGAR guy really sealed the deal about this project being a scam. It went from a 95% chance to a 99% chance of being a scam thanks to him reminding me about the involvement of this Adrian Jacuzzi guy, then saying his token price was worth more now than it was when he bought it. Its worth zero. He doesn't even hold the tokens. This can be verified by checking out the smart contract address for the tokens. They haven't been distributed and they aren't traded. There's no realistic chance this project isn't a scam. Whether or not a mine exists is irrelevant -- the cryptocurrency portion of their fundraising is a scam.

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This WIDGAR guy really sealed the deal about this project being a scam. It went from a 95% chance to a 99% chance of being a scam thanks to him reminding me about the involvement of this Adrian Jacuzzi guy, then saying his token price was worth more now than it was when he bought it. Its worth zero. He doesn't even hold the tokens. This can be verified by checking out the smart contract address for the tokens. They haven't been distributed and they aren't traded. There's no realistic chance this project isn't a scam. Whether or not a mine exists is irrelevant -- the cryptocurrency portion of their fundraising is a scam.

It's clearly stated the tokens will go onto an exchange in Q2 2020. So whether we have the tokens now or not is irrelevant. In fact they can only be distributed once FINMA give their approval, that being in Q4 2019.

It's quite an elaborate scam dont you think? Involving a multitude of companies and reports. Royal Haskoning, SWISSCOM,  Golders associates. Maybe Adrian payed them all off!
Or more realistically, there is a mine which we have established from Mongolian government websites and the owners of the mine have foreign shareholders
http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329

A confidential feasibility study carried out by Royal Haskoning is available on the BHF website which can be seen after agreeing to an NDA. (apparently these studies are easily available to download from the web Cheesy).

But let's just wait till the end of the year for FINMA approval.
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It's clearly stated the tokens will go onto an exchange in Q2 2020. So whether we have the tokens now or not is irrelevant. In fact they can only be distributed once FINMA give their approval, that being in Q4 2019.

Why would anybody invest in it before they get their precious FINMA approval? They are collecting money for it now under the guise that it is a regulated securities token when it has yet to receive any sort of approval, which can't be legal in any jurisdiction.

It's quite an elaborate scam dont you think? Involving a multitude of companies and reports. Royal Haskoning, SWISSCOM,  Golders associates. Maybe Adrian payed them all off!
Or more realistically, there is a mine which we have established from Mongolian government websites and the owners of the mine have foreign shareholders
http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329

A confidential feasibility study carried out by Royal Haskoning is available on the BHF website which can be seen after agreeing to an NDA. (apparently these studies are easily available to download from the web Cheesy).

But let's just wait till the end of the year for FINMA approval.

Again, I can't believe they are actually selling the tokens now before any such approval. Of course no government agency in their right mind would ever approve this project. Everything about it screams scam.









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“These are not ALL the projects that Royal Haskoning has ever been involved in. These are the ones they like to advertise on their website.
Where is the Nicaragua Canal project which they were involved in, or the One Angel Square project in Manchester which they designed or the Seine-Nord canal project which they overlooked? Where are these listed on the list of projects they are involved in or have been involved in”.




Thats correct, they are not listed as I had filters applied. Im not here to teach you how to research online Bubba06255003. You are obviously not capable of such things or even understanding what INDEPENDENT means.

Here’s a hint, if you want to know about different projects you may consider the Royal Haskoning website that is country specific.




“So you say it's easy to get a confidential report from Royal Haskoning. In that case please get a link to a feasibility or analytical study Royal Haskoning have done for any of the projects they have listed on their website. Thanks”.



Find your own. Im getting a little tired of you wanting links when you can’t actually provide one yourself to back up anything you have said. I’m not providing my box login, and you have no idea what i’m talking about then I rest my case, your research skills suck.




“You seem to have got things mixed up. The Toronto stock exchange listing will happen AFTER the buy back plan in late 2022.
The FINMA license is for the security token. 2 different things. So first the FINMA license for the security token. Once all the tokens have been bought back THEN they will apply for listing on the Toronto Stock exchange. Comprende”?



What the hell are you talking about, there will be no buyback.  Both the BHF token and BHM token are securities - the Blue Hill white-paper says that. It’s a bit late now because the pre STO is a security token and not registered. You also cannot sell tokens on a share-exchange (shares = 100% equity not partial like the BHM white-paper says - 0.00000004%), only morons would believe you can sell this.  




“Lastly being a shareholder of Bayajtatu means you own the % of all their assets. Not really hard to understand. So if you own 30% of their shares, you own 30% of their land, mine, property etc, just like any shareholder for any company. Not sure why this is hard to understand.

http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329

This link clearly shows Bayajtatu has a foreign shareholder”




Did you read the above post by WIDGAR? This is the second time I repeating myself. WIDGAR claims to have invested $ 9,000 EUROS and has all the documentation that Blue Hill Mining has given him. There are also links provided, more than you have ever done Bubba06255003.

This documentation apparently shows that part of the land was purchased from BAYAJTATU last year and Blue Hill Mining does not own Bayajtatu LLC. So WIDGAR is basically calling YOU a liar Bubba06255003, not me. You are the one banging on about how Blue Hill Mining own shares in BAYAJTATU but thats not actually the case at all according to WIDGAR and Blue Hills documentation.

So you lie. WIDGAR said so, so does Blue Hill documentation.

http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329 <——You keep using the link I provided lol now it is irrelevant because you are a liar according to Blue Hills Documentation and WIDGAR.
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“These are not ALL the projects that Royal Haskoning has ever been involved in. These are the ones they like to advertise on their website.
Where is the Nicaragua Canal project which they were involved in, or the One Angel Square project in Manchester which they designed or the Seine-Nord canal project which they overlooked? Where are these listed on the list of projects they are involved in or have been involved in”.




Thats correct, they are not listed as I had filters applied. Im not here to teach you how to research online Bubba06255003. You are obviously not capable of such things or even understanding what INDEPENDENT means.

Here’s a hint, if you want to know about different projects you may consider the Royal Haskoning website that is country specific.




“So you say it's easy to get a confidential report from Royal Haskoning. In that case please get a link to a feasibility or analytical study Royal Haskoning have done for any of the projects they have listed on their website. Thanks”.



Find your own. Im getting a little tired of you wanting links when you can’t actually provide one yourself to back up anything you have said. I’m not providing my box login, and you have no idea what i’m talking about then I rest my case, your research skills suck.




“You seem to have got things mixed up. The Toronto stock exchange listing will happen AFTER the buy back plan in late 2022.
The FINMA license is for the security token. 2 different things. So first the FINMA license for the security token. Once all the tokens have been bought back THEN they will apply for listing on the Toronto Stock exchange. Comprende”?



What the hell are you talking about, there will be no buyback.  Both the BHF token and BHM token are securities - the Blue Hill white-paper says that. It’s a bit late now because the pre STO is a security token and not registered. You also cannot sell tokens on a share-exchange (shares = 100% equity not partial like the BHM white-paper says - 0.00000004%), only morons would believe you can sell this.  




“Lastly being a shareholder of Bayajtatu means you own the % of all their assets. Not really hard to understand. So if you own 30% of their shares, you own 30% of their land, mine, property etc, just like any shareholder for any company. Not sure why this is hard to understand.

http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329

This link clearly shows Bayajtatu has a foreign shareholder”




Did you read the above post by WIDGAR? This is the second time I repeating myself. WIDGAR claims to have invested $ 9,000 EUROS and has all the documentation that Blue Hill Mining has given him. There are also links provided, more than you have ever done Bubba06255003.

This documentation apparently shows that part of the land was purchased from BAYAJTATU last year and Blue Hill Mining does not own Bayajtatu LLC. So WIDGAR is basically calling YOU a liar Bubba06255003, not me. You are the one banging on about how Blue Hill Mining own shares in BAYAJTATU but thats not actually the case at all according to WIDGAR and Blue Hills documentation.

So you lie. WIDGAR said so, so does Blue Hill documentation.

http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329 <——You keep using the link I provided lol now it is irrelevant because you are a liar according to Blue Hills Documentation and WIDGAR.


I do have basic computer skills and know how to use a filter. In fact by using the filters I managed to find these 3 projects are NOT listed on the Royal Haskoning projects lists. Your link https://www.royalhaskoningdhv.com/en-gb/projects/view-our-projects-on-a-map apparently shows 'all' Royal Haskonings projects. Well try taking off all filters or do a continent specific search and you will not find the following 3 projects on there. The nicaragua canal project, the One Angel Square Project in Manchester or the Seine-Nord canal project. Did Royal Haskoning not partake in these projects???



" Find your own. Im getting a little tired of you wanting links when you can’t actually provide one yourself to back up anything you have said. I’m not providing my box login, and you have no idea what i’m talking about then I rest my case, your research skills suck. "

It's easy to say this if you know you haven't got any substance to back it up. You claim anyone can hold of a CONFIDENTIAL report from one of the biggest auditors in the world by simply registering an account and accessing their database???!!! Really???!! I know you think Blue Hill Mining is a scam but come on you can do better than that. Surely.



" What the hell are you talking about, there will be no buyback.  Both the BHF token and BHM token are securities - the Blue Hill white-paper says that. It’s a bit late now because the pre STO is a security token and not registered. You also cannot sell tokens on a share-exchange (shares = 100% equity not partial like the BHM white-paper says - 0.00000004%), only morons would believe you can sell this.  "

There will be no buyback according to YOU. Who are YOU??!!. BHF is NOT a security token but BHM is. BHF will be converted to the regulated BHM token once FINMA gives their approval. The BHM token will then be listed on a Crypto-exchange not the toronto stock exchange by Q2 2020. The company will then buyback the tokens from Q2 2022 onwards. Once all the tokens have been bought back they will then apply to be listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange.
You seen to want to jump from one part of the process to the other. You claim security tokens can't be sold on an exchange. Well then what the heck is being sold on tZero right now?



http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329 <---------- you didnt provide this link. It was me that got this for you from the BHF website once you create an account. Please show me one place where YOU put this link up.
You STILL do  not seem to understand the concept of shareholders and what it entitles you to. If I am a 30% shareholder of a company I OWN 30% of their assets. This is BASIC knowledge.
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I do have basic computer skills and know how to use a filter. In fact by using the filters I managed to find these 3 projects are NOT listed on the Royal Haskoning projects lists. Your link https://www.royalhaskoningdhv.com/en-gb/projects/view-our-projects-on-a-map apparently shows 'all' Royal Haskonings projects. Well try taking off all filters or do a continent specific search and you will not find the following 3 projects on there. The nicaragua canal project, the One Angel Square Project in Manchester or the Seine-Nord canal project. Did Royal Haskoning not partake in these projects???

I don't care if YOU can't find anything.You are great at researching. Google their relationship and  https://www.royalhaskoningdhv.com connection if it matters so much to you.


" Find your own. Im getting a little tired of you wanting links when you can’t actually provide one yourself to back up anything you have said. I’m not providing my box login, and you have no idea what i’m talking about then I rest my case, your research skills suck. "

It's easy to say this if you know you haven't got any substance to back it up. You claim anyone can hold of a CONFIDENTIAL report from one of the biggest auditors in the world by simply registering an account and accessing their database???!!! Really???!! I know you think Blue Hill Mining is a scam but come on you can do better than that. Surely.

I didn't say I can get hold of a confidential report. Any reports involving mining operations impede on the environment therefore reports are made public. Allow me to quote myself:



"Projects as required by law are publicly available due to the environmental impact. Details in contracts are obviously private but due to the nature of the Mining business all info is up for grabs as it affects the community.

So how did Blue Hill Mining get any report, the same way anyone can. Did Royal Haskoning ACTUALLY provide the report? - well if you received this report from Blue Hill Mining then you didn't get the report from an independent source so you deserve to kiss your $$ goodbye.

The launch of the digital report online solution from royalhaskoningdhv.com will help me out....cough cough cough. Guess what...."

Did you guess it?...I assume you didn't. The login I was referring to in previous post doesn't gain me access to anything confidential. YOU said that not me. It give access to whats publicly available on the various projects, especially projects that have an environmental impact (eg. mining).  Royalhaskoningdhv has this data that is publicly shared amongst it's community/partners/governmental departments/internal communication/engineers etc.


 

" What the hell are you talking about, there will be no buyback.  Both the BHF token and BHM token are securities - the Blue Hill white-paper says that. It’s a bit late now because the pre STO is a security token and not registered. You also cannot sell tokens on a share-exchange (shares = 100% equity not partial like the BHM white-paper says - 0.00000004%), only morons would believe you can sell this.  "

There will be no buyback according to YOU. Who are YOU??!!. BHF is NOT a security token but BHM is. BHF will be converted to the regulated BHM token once FINMA gives their approval. The BHM token will then be listed on a Crypto-exchange not the toronto stock exchange by Q2 2020. The company will then buyback the tokens from Q2 2022 onwards. Once all the tokens have been bought back they will then apply to be listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange.
You seen to want to jump from one part of the process to the other. You claim security tokens can't be sold on an exchange. Well then what the heck is being sold on tZero right now?



Back to my original statement. What the hell are you talking about!

The Blue Hill Mine/Foundation white-papers state the same thing.

BHF Tokens
      0.00000004% of the physical Mine in Mongolia (Blue Hill Mine) <---- SECURITY
      Swap 1:1 for BHM Tokens

BHM Tokens
      Blue Hill Mine (0.00000004%) -physical Mine in Mongolia (Blue Hill Mine) <---- SECURITY
      The Blue Hill Mine Project (30%)
      FUTURE Blue Hill Mine Projects (30% of FUTURE projects)

The white-papers say this not me.




You seen to want to jump from one part of the process to the other. You claim security tokens can't be sold on an exchange. Well then what the heck is being sold on tZero right now?


What the hell are you talking about!

I quote myself.

"You also cannot sell tokens on a share-exchange (shares = 100% equity not partial like the BHM white-paper says - 0.00000004%), only morons would believe you can sell this"

I said share exchange (i.e. stock exchange) - this is where public shares are traded. This is different to a crypto-platform. Hello!??!

tZero uses the blockchain to manage crypto-assets including security derived crypto-assets. Don't get this confused with this enabling you to trade this on the public stock (share) exchange. No no no.




http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329 <---------- you didnt provide this link. It was me that got this for you from the BHF website once you create an account. Please show me one place where YOU put this link up.
You STILL do  not seem to understand the concept of shareholders and what it entitles you to. If I am a 30% shareholder of a company I OWN 30% of their assets. This is BASIC knowledge.



Actually I stand corrected on that one, I was looking at another link at the time, sorry. You indeed provided that. Smiley

You don't seem to understand that I'm not arguing with you about what shareholders and what it entitles you to. I just stated that WIDGAR claims to have invested $ 9,000 EUROS and has all the documentation that Blue Hill Mining has given him. The documentation says a Blue Hill Mining Company bought land from BAYAJTATU, thats how they are SUPPOSE to "own" a mine in Mongolia.
The documentation doesn't say it bought shares in any company associated with BAYAJTATU...no no no...it apparently said they purchased land from them. No shares were purchased Bubba06255003... ONLY LAND...LAND....LAND.

As for that link you have provided for us, it does show information (Бaяжтaтy ownership), it just means diddly squat (rubbish) now. Nothing. It was land, not shares...apparently.



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For those who support the project and for those who do not support it, only the passing of time will give us the final answer, everyone is free to choose what they want based on their research.
It is because that will always be positive, see the comments of research, opinion and criticism of other people through forums like this.

So I thank everyone for their comments and warnings, I know they do it in a positive way and as time goes by we will see what happens.

There will still be many more opportunities in the Crypto world, this is just beginning.
I move on the premise that a part of the investment success consists in not putting all the eggs in the same basket. If this project works, Great! If it doesn't work, maybe the others do.

I will remain a long-term investor  Wink
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What you need to know about our project and STO

Blue Hill Mining project has a real potential to increase its value!
 
In fact, the mechanism to achieve level of return on investment is quite simple and straightforward, and it boils down to one simple truth – the sooner you join Blue Hill Mining project and acquire BHF-Tokens, the greater the benefit you will be able to derive from this acquisition in the future.

💠 Gateway to Blue Hill Mining, a fully regulated STO, asset-backed by one of the largest copper reserves in Asia.

“Blue Hill Foundation” is a 24% co-owner of the “Blue Hill Mine” alongside “Blue Hill Mining”. “Blue Hill Foundation”, as co-owner of the “Blue Hill Mine”, has entered the Blockchain space with the BHF-Tokens, creating a financial strategy which opens the door to a 24/7 worldwide market. The two main roles of “Blue Hill Foundation” are firstly, to provide a seeding tool to raise money for the continuation of drillings in order to provide them up to international standards for eventual listing on the Toronto Stock Exchange, and secondly provide an investment opportunity to enter the STO at the pre-sales stage at a preferential price.

💎 BHF-Tokens

In essence, “Blue Hill Foundation” tokens (BHF-Tokens) are unregulated tokens during the PRE-STO, that are asset-backed by (0.00000004%) co-ownership of the “Blue Hill Mine”. BHF-Tokens can be considered “Programmable Ownership” as Bitcoin is considered “Programmable money”. BHF-Tokens can be purchased at a preferential price at this PRE-STO phase, before the “Blue Hill Mining” STO launch. Every BHF-Token purchased will be automatically exchanged for the fully regulated asset-backed BHM-Token (1 BHF-Token for 1 BHM-Token).

At the current “Blue Hill Foundation” PRE-STO phase, below is the company structure. Currently, 24% of “Blue Hill Mine” is owned by “Blue Hill Foundation”, of which an extra 6% will be purchased during the PRE-STO phase, to make a total of 30% ownership. The balance of the “Blue Hill Mine” will be placed into a Toronto-based Stock market Listed company. At the launch of the “Blue Hill Mining” STO, the company structure will be changed to a fully Swiss regulated company structure. At the completion of the “Blue Hill Mining” STO, all the BHF-Tokens will be automatically exchanged for the fully Swiss regulated BHM-Tokens.

💡 Do you want to know more about Blue Hill Mining project?

➡️ Visit our official website! https://www.bluehillmining.com


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Dear participants of the project Blue Hill Mining!

💠 For more than 4 months you have been following our project and we are grateful to each of you for your faith in our project and the attention you pay to us!

💠 We want every participant to be aware of what is happening with Blue Hill Mining. So with that in mind we have prepared an official communication about the advances in the project and the roadmap!

💡 We will publish it soon!
💡 So stay tuned!

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Why are you selling tokens before your FINMA approval? How can this be a "STO" if its not secured by anything? To further expand on the issue:

It's clearly stated the tokens will go onto an exchange in Q2 2020. So whether we have the tokens now or not is irrelevant. In fact they can only be distributed once FINMA give their approval, that being in Q4 2019.

Why would anybody invest in it before they get their precious FINMA approval? They are collecting money for it now under the guise that it is a regulated securities token when it has yet to receive any sort of approval, which can't be legal in any jurisdiction.

It's quite an elaborate scam dont you think? Involving a multitude of companies and reports. Royal Haskoning, SWISSCOM,  Golders associates. Maybe Adrian payed them all off!
Or more realistically, there is a mine which we have established from Mongolian government websites and the owners of the mine have foreign shareholders
http://opendata.burtgel.gov.mn/lesinfo/5167329

A confidential feasibility study carried out by Royal Haskoning is available on the BHF website which can be seen after agreeing to an NDA. (apparently these studies are easily available to download from the web Cheesy).

But let's just wait till the end of the year for FINMA approval.

Again, I can't believe they are actually selling the tokens now before any such approval. Of course no government agency in their right mind would ever approve this project. Everything about it screams scam.









Just look at this pathetic garbage. Its complete MLM Ponzi crap:

https://mize4.me/m4m-files/2019/03/Powermine-Presentation_en_marzo_v2.pdf

Please, peddle this bullshit elsewhere.

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